Free Agency day one: What we know so far
by JasonB on Mar 5, 2010 3:00 PM EST
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I'm just going to try to wrap up what we know so far in regards to the Eagles' activities.
Julius Pepper's agent said that the Eagles made him an offer, but Peppers has reportedly decided to sign with the Chicago Bears. Bears' coach Lovie Smith flew down to pick up Peppers at midnight. Chicago will reportedly pay Peppers $40 million over the first 3 years of a 6 year deal that will total $72 million!
A report said that the Eagles showed some interest in Titans DE Kyle Vanden Bosch immediately after midnight, but as with Peppers the coach of the Detroit Lions flew down to Tennessee and knocked on the pro bowler's door at midnight. Vanden Bosch signed a $26 million deal with the Lions that will reportedly pay him $10 million in the first year. He had 3 sacks last year...
The third big name DE on the market is Aaron Kampman, and yet again the Eagles have been linked with him throughout the day. Jay Glazer first reported that Kampman was on his way to Philadelphia for a visit, but later retracted the report. Several sources have confirmed that the Eagles have at least spoken with Kampman, so there's still a chance that something could happen. Kampman tore his ACL in week 11 of last season.
As for the Eagles own free agents, Leonard Weaver agreed to a new 3 year deal that makes him the highest paid full back in the league. Apparently Jason Babin has drawn the interest of the Washington Redskins.
At this point it seems clear that the Eagles were in the market for a free agent pass rusher but have so far come up empty handed. There was some speculation that the Eagles might look to sign a safety in free agency, but so far they've shown no interest in any of the safeties out there.
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i know that the Eagles name has been mentioned in with all 3 of these guys, but the full blown attempt wasnt really there.
If we wanted any of these guys bad enough, we’d have them. I just dont think that we wanted them all that bad.
If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby
by GreenInBaltimore on Mar 5, 2010 3:05 PM EST reply actions
agree
I just think the eagles are not going after any one with an injury history and also the eagles aren’t dolling out the big bucks for any player they don’t really like…..I really though Role would have been a dynamite signing though.
Let's get it Birds.
I hate to say it.. but Philly is not this magical place where, if the team wants a certain player, he’ll go there. All the FO can do is try to put the best offer on the table. If the player chooses to sign elsewhere… what else could the FO have done?
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Weaver wanted to be here
And stay here. That says a lot.
And we are a perennial SB contender. You don’t win 11 games and not be a contender.
Reid- Best Coach in Eagles History
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This is the year
what else could they do? offer more money. done deal. once you get in the “72 million dollar” range, tossing in a few extra incentives to make it an 80 million dollar contract isnt all that impossible. If the Eagles had their sights set on this guy, more money could have been put down, and then POOF. magically, philly becomes a “nicer” place to go.
If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby
by GreenInBaltimore on Mar 5, 2010 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
Sure.
Just give me your bank account number and your pin.
:)
well, if i were to be in a position to sign someone to a 72mil contract, chances are pretty good that i would be in a decent position to sign someone to an 80mil contract.
all i am saying is money is the driving factor. if the eagles wanted him, they would have gotten him. all magic aside.
If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby
by GreenInBaltimore on Mar 5, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
who said they were willing to go 6 years with the contract? i think that’s a pretty long deal for a 30 year old… i wouldn’t feel comfortable doing that
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
In reality
it is most probably a 3 year 40 mil contract.
Your total contract may have been in the same ballpark but your upfront money could have been much less.
by G Fan in England on Mar 5, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
agreed. just a cap strategy for when the cap is back in play.
If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby
by GreenInBaltimore on Mar 5, 2010 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
Rolle
is taking a medical withn the Giants.
by G Fan in England on Mar 5, 2010 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
The Eagles don’t overpay for players, and Peppers was going to get overpaid. I’m a little surprised at the numbers, though, as I thought they may have been a little higher.
Vanden Bosch didn’t really get overpaid, I guess, but I don’t know that he would’ve been the right guy for here anyway. Isn’t he a 3-4 DE? Besides reuniting with Jim Schwartz just made a lot of sense for him.
Kampman is the guy that made the most sense for the Eagles, but I don’t know that they’ll bite. He’s older and coming off an injury. I think the Eagles will weigh the best case scenario against the worst case scenario and decide it’s not worth it. That money can go to other spots.
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yojoseki
i agree philly doesnt over pay .. but heres the thing .. u cant really over pay peppers .. what ever he gets there can be an argument hes worth since hes the best DE since reggie white .. and actually has more phyical talent than just about anyone to ever play there
by jack is better than asante on Mar 5, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
hes the best DE since reggie white
Really? Are you sure? He’s not even the best DE in his new division.
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bull shit
who is better .. i like jared allen too .. peppers is 6 foot fuckin 7 and more athletic than anyone in our front 7 including the lbs .. peppers is a monster .. teams dont run to his side so he gets less tackles .. and he gets double teams in carolina .. he is a stud
by jack is better than asante on Mar 6, 2010 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
who would win in a fight?
mike ditka, or a hurricane? hold on! hold on!! hold on!!! the hurricane’s name….. is hurricane ditka…
by Bleediots on Mar 5, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
LMAO
made my day. Peppers is not the best since Reggie White by the way, thats absurd to even take that into question
Whoever said it doesn't matter whether you win or lose, probably lost.
by David Harnden on Mar 5, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
no its not
i would take peppers over white .. 6 foot 7 and as athletic as anyone ever to play the position ..most complete end ive seen
by jack is better than asante on Mar 6, 2010 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
Regarding our own FA’s, are we waiting to see what the WR market does before we re-sign the newest KFC pitchman (Avant)?
Chase Utley is so good that on one pitch he stole second, third and the shortstop's hat.
No? Eagles know whether or not they want him. I can’t imagine a free agent WR the Eagles are interested in.
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or at least Hanks wife
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"Yes, but there is in win." Michael Jordan's response
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"Well I have an answer or a damn good lie." SFC Strader
No rush on that. Nobody’s signing Avant because they’d have to give us a 2 if they did, which we’d gladly take.
hell yes
id be estatic to get a 2nd for a average wr who will never be a starter .. please someone be that dumb
by jack is better than asante on Mar 5, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed, in due time he’ll get locked up.
by andyreidswaistline on Mar 5, 2010 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
IDK man
I’m starting to get that feeling that is I left this board until Training camp all I would have to catch up on is the newest draft picks
Let's get it Birds.
I really hate Chicago
Those two guys could have helped us get to the Super Bowl. Instead they’re going to rot on an 8-8 team where good players go to miss the playoffs. fuck da bears
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
ehh
they got cutler still .. and now hes a year comfortable .. plus adding peppers and urlacher back .. they are gonna make the playoffs
by jack is better than asante on Mar 5, 2010 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
They also play in the same division as Green Bay and Minnesota
And now will go 0-4 there. The O-line is in shambles, the receivers are inconsistent…so no this is a mediocre team
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
no
your wrong .. one wr like reuniting marshall with cutler and they are an explosive offense with forte and olsen .. and their d is always been good and now going to be better
by jack is better than asante on Mar 6, 2010 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
problem is
they don’t have a decent WR. If Marshall would go there sure, but he is tendered a 1st round pick, which they don’t have. Stack 8 or 9 in the box all day long and all you got for next year is a lower scoring game from their revamped defense, but their inability to run and pass remains the same. Mike martz or not.
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"Yes, but there is in win." Michael Jordan's response
'I have a question." Random Soldier
"Well I have an answer or a damn good lie." SFC Strader
i disagree
mike martz makes cutlers big arm good ..forte is solid young rb .. hester is decent deep threat .. olsen is a probowl TE .. all they need is one wr .. marshall makes them superbowl contenders
by jack is better than asante on Mar 6, 2010 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
With the money we’re paying Weaver, the Eagles are going to have to use him a lot more this year. Chester Taylor costs less per year and is a much more proven commodity running the ball. So, here’s hoping for 125 carries and 600 yards, along with 30 catches for 200 yards.
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yea but you’re not giving weaver credit for the other things he does. he IS a FB…not a RB. i think the deal that each guy got was fair….
If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby
by GreenInBaltimore on Mar 5, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
I really thought Chester Taylor would’ve gotten more money and at least had the option of going somewhere to start. The quick move to Chicago doesn’t make much sense to me.
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Isn't that why Taylor signed with minesota in the first place
so he could start … then they drafted AP lol
Let's get it Birds.
no
chester taylor isnt good .. hes average .. jones will get the big money .. chester taylor is nothing special
by jack is better than asante on Mar 5, 2010 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
Also, trust me, I know he’s a fullback. But he’s not getting paid to just block. He’s getting paid like they expect him to produce numbers. So, they have to have plans for him.
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i dont disagree with that, but you’re comparing a 27 yr old weaver in his prime to a near 30 year old taylor. the money is going to be different, no matter the duties expected…
If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby
by GreenInBaltimore on Mar 5, 2010 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
no way
weaver > taylor all day .. chester isnt special ..
by jack is better than asante on Mar 5, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
I’ll take Weaver over Chester any day of the week.
by andyreidswaistline on Mar 5, 2010 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
Bottom Line.
The Eagles FO didn’t think Peppers was worth that much money.
I agree with them. If, as has been said, they really wanted a player, they would have gone and gotten him.
I hope they have some big plans for Draft Day if they don’t grab anybody at all, though.
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by DSmith215 on Mar 5, 2010 3:35 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Peppers is a bit overrated. For him, this is truly a case of being in the right place at the right time.
by andyreidswaistline on Mar 5, 2010 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
Cant believe Peppers got a contract that small though
Just shows how dumb the Redskins are
Let's get it Birds.
Also
From Tommy Lawlor:
“I’m sad to say that I’m hearing Kampman will not be an Eagle. I’m not sure of the details, but you can bet his ACL injury is a major issue.”
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dont be blinded by his previous years stats. the guys just blew out his acl in week 11. that has to count for something. the Eagles may have made an offer for him with this as a connsideration, and they may have thought they lowballed. who knows….
If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby
by GreenInBaltimore on Mar 5, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
I know
ANd maybe he wouldn’t have helped. But this is ridiculous so far we can expect the same result as last season AT BEST
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
get off the ledge! its the first day of the offseason! haha geeeeezzz
If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby
by GreenInBaltimore on Mar 5, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
That's what I'm saying
We don’t have a meaningful game until September, why’s everybody acting like we have to have our lineup set today?
The Eagles do this every year … let other teams blow the budget, then come in behind and scoop up the players they really wanted for the reasonable prices. Hate to compare it to a fantasy auction, but it’s similar in theory.
I’d still rather be where we’re sitting than where the Lions are trying to convince myself that $51 million spent on Vandenbosch and Burleson is a good thing.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
Brandon Marshall visiting Seattle tomorrow...
Marshall is a RFA with a 1st round tender, and Seattle has the 6th overall pick. That would be a mega-deal.
I think
Seattle would be stupid to do that.
I don’t think Marshall is worth the 6th pick overall in such a deep draft.
Can they try to bargain with Denver over it?
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His last 3 years...
2009 – 101-1120-10
2008 – 104-1265-6
2007 – 102-1325-7
If you ignore his 10 cent head, those numbers are absolutely #6 overall worthy.
bull shit
marshall is better than anything u get in this weak draft .. this draft has about one impact player .. eric berry .. and a couple guys who will be good .. altho i think gresham is an all pro in making
by jack is better than asante on Mar 5, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
Don't forget Seattle is also picking 14th
So they may use that pick for Marshall and still get aQB/OT with the 6th pick.
That would give Denver the 11th and 14th picks and it would be interesting if they went the Dez route with one of those picks.
by G Fan in England on Mar 5, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
They'd still need a quarterback though
Unless you trust Seneca Wallace to get him the ball
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
umm Hasslebeck?
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"Yes, but there is in win." Michael Jordan's response
'I have a question." Random Soldier
"Well I have an answer or a damn good lie." SFC Strader
He's old
The guy will be 35 years old this year and hasn’t had a good season since 2007. He has trouble staying healthy and that patchwork offensive line has never been the same after losing Steve Hutchinson and Walter Jones is retiring.
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
Marshall is worth every bit of that
He’s the real deal, he gets it done against even the toughest secondaries. Eagles almost certain to draft or trade for or sign another LB.
by donniethelion on Mar 5, 2010 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
Sources are saying they will try to work a trade with Denver, not give up the 1st rounder.
Bye 36, you will be missed...
by Route36 on Mar 5, 2010 3:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ravens trade with Boldin nearing completion. -Adam Schefter
If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby
by GreenInBaltimore on Mar 5, 2010 4:17 PM EST reply actions
*trade FOR Boldin
If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby
by GreenInBaltimore on Mar 5, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
Wow, big move for them. That’ll be at least a 2. I know the Cards were looking for a 3, but not where the Ravens pick. Ray Rice, Leron McClain, Anquan Boldin… You better be able to tackle if you play the Ravens – They have some serious bruisers.
yea, no joke. and ray lewis on the other side of the ball! ha
If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby
by GreenInBaltimore on Mar 5, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
Ravens
Also looking at Walter of the Texans so a total revamp of the passing game if they get both.
Cardinals will be fielding a vastly different team in 2010 compared to 2009!
by G Fan in England on Mar 5, 2010 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
Would anyone be willing to trade
A 1st and a 3rd to Denver for Dumervil? Then get a safety or Iupati in the second round?
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
I mean he is a guard
Positional value always gets underestimated in mocks
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
I know
I’ve just read a lot about Lupati not getting past the Cowboys in the first round, if isn’t drafted before.
wow
i wouldnt give them a second for dumervil .. hes too fuckin small ..hes worth a third at best .. 1st and third hahahahah are u serious bro
by jack is better than asante on Mar 6, 2010 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
agree here
Dumervil was successful because of the defense he was in. he is a pass rusher, thats it. No need for him here. We get plenty of sacks, we need coverage
" There is no I in team." Phil Jackson to Michael Jordan
"Yes, but there is in win." Michael Jordan's response
'I have a question." Random Soldier
"Well I have an answer or a damn good lie." SFC Strader
Haha, JIBTA gets confused on who to reply to...
Tanman said that a few comments above.
Bye 36, you will be missed...
Also
What do you guys think about Rock Cartwright? Washington just released him
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
we got our FB
he is also older. he is a hard worker. Good blue collar guy. But no real place for him in our system.
" There is no I in team." Phil Jackson to Michael Jordan
"Yes, but there is in win." Michael Jordan's response
'I have a question." Random Soldier
"Well I have an answer or a damn good lie." SFC Strader
I mentioned Dumervil earlier this week.
I’d consider it but others seemed to think coming from a 3-4 wouldn’t work out great. I’d definitely consider it for 2011 picks but I love this year’s draft.
My "t" and "y" buttons are messed up so don't bitch at me about misspelling, I'm just saying.
by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Mar 5, 2010 6:52 PM EST up reply actions
The thing is
Before last year, he was a 10-12 sack guy as a 4-3 defensive end
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
Agree. And he was released.
"Season tickets for the Lakers? How is that economically possible?"
"Bye, Mac"
Well if
We can’t grab Atogwae, i think he’s the next best option. Then we can draft for depth at least at Saftey.
For the Love of the Game
Why has he gotten massive long term contracts and then been released after one season two years in a row?
by greeninireland on Mar 5, 2010 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
I’m just curious, I’m not saying we shouldn’t get him
by greeninireland on Mar 5, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
Take it
from a Giants fan – Wilson is washed up.
Mind you if you did sign him it would balance out with the Giants playing CC Brown last year
by G Fan in England on Mar 5, 2010 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
That bad?
NO offense but CC brown was the worst safety I’ve ever seen and I had the “privilege” of watching Sean Considine for a couple of years
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
CC Brown
is an OK in the box safety but ask him to cover someone and you might as well signal Touchdown!
The Dolphins could not wait to get rid of him – he blew the tackle on Dallas Clark on the first play in the Colts game, he was lying on the ground when Bush scored in the Saints game.
I have seen him drop int’s when he had both hands on the ball and no one within 5 yards of him.
by G Fan in England on Mar 6, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
i don't agree G
Wilson is one year removed from a good season(check his Oak. stats) why did Al Davis release him? why does Al Davis do anything Al Davis does. fact is, he’s had one bad year in his whole career and i would not like one of my fav. ex Giants wearing the green.
Yo G, i think we got lost tho on the blog highway. i’ll meet you over at BBV….
no way
wilson had over 100 tackles and the raiders released him cuz they know nothing about football ..hes a solid player .. harris is an absoulte joke .. i would rank any FA saftey over him .. and i dont even need to see the list ..any of them .. there cant be anyone worse
by jack is better than asante on Mar 6, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions
Tackles is sort of a meaningless stats. Guys on bad defenses rack up big tackle totals because they can’t get off the field.
ehh
wilson has always been a solid saftey .. even in giants uniform
by jack is better than asante on Mar 6, 2010 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
I think
he was good at the Giants due to the pass rush of Strahan and Co meaning he did not get exposed in coverage like he did with the Raiders and Dolphins.
Don’t say you were not warned if he dose sign for you!
by G Fan in England on Mar 6, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
Spoon released, I mentioned it yesterday and took some crap yesterday for saying it was a possibility since he was supposedly our “best LB”
His name is Iupati NOT Lupati… And the Bears ARE NOT making the playoffs with no line, no receivers, and a guy who will lead the league in picks… Again…
by 92-74-99-96 on Mar 5, 2010 4:56 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Not you. I know you spelled it correctly. TeamSerbia can’t spell his name yet knows his draft position…
by 92-74-99-96 on Mar 5, 2010 5:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Meh
If you want to day dream about him dropping to us in the 2nd round, go for it. We should aim for Berry at 24 too.
You need to read the posts again. I never said a word about Iupati being there in rd 2. Also, I never said a word about Berry either. Neither of those scenarios will occur, both are too talented.
by 92-74-99-96 on Mar 5, 2010 6:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That's like my dream after the Super Bowl
In 2004 I dreamt that McNabb actually led a game-winning drive and we won 28-24.
So for the first 5 minutes after I woke up I had convinced myself that we won. Soon enough, it all came crashing down
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
Anyone think our unknown situation at QB might have some F.A’s hesitant to come here?
The situation in Chicago and Detroit may not be great but at least people know who the QB is and is going to be.
if we were looking at WR’s i may think so. being that pretty much everything we have loooked at is defense, i doubt the QB questions come into play.
If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby
by GreenInBaltimore on Mar 5, 2010 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
This all but makes me think that the Eagles have their eyes set on Sean Weatherspoon, Missouri OLB, in the first round. I know first round LBs aren’t our thing but Weatherspoon would be a great fit at the WILL (he could potentially play MLB too I think, but that’s beside the point seeing as Bradley returns this year).
Maybe that’s wishful thinking from me since I love Weatherspoon, but it makes sense at least. Witherspoon was good in his partial season last year, but we did only trade a 5th for him I believe, so I’m not too heartbroken over it. I guess the Eagles didn’t think he was worth the 5 million he was slated to earn this year.
Fair enough
Witherspoon for Weatherspoon? I’ll take that whether the weather is good
(Sorry I had to do that)
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
What do you guys think about picking up Lito Sheppard?
I know he had a bad year, but he should come cheap and he knows the system well.
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
I don't see him coming back
much more likely we draft for the future.
We need a younger less injury prone guy on our roster with upside and that can contribute on special teams as well
Meh. Our Corners are basically set head-to-toe. Samuel #1, Brown #2, Hanson #3, Hobbs #4 (or flip Hanson and Hobbs, I’m not entirely sure) and Patterson #5.
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
McNabb's Chamionship game and Super Bowl career: 129/225, 57.3 completion percentage, 1426 yards, 6.3 YPA, 9 touchdowns, 9 interceptions, 72.9 QB rating, 1-5
by Imp on Mar 6, 2010 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
It's funny
The way they sound over at the Windy City Gridiron SB Nation blog, they’ve already won the next 3 Super Bowls after signing Peppers.
lol.
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