Is there any way back for McNabb now?
by JasonB on Mar 25, 2010 5:06 PM EDT
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PrintHere's a few things that have not happened so far this offseason. Bill Polian has not told the media that he's entertaining offers for Peyton Manning. There have not been reports of an offer on the table for Tom Brady. Phillip Rivers is not on the last year of his deal with a team that has not offered to extend him. Drew Brees has not issued a statement saying he wants his team to resolve his situation quickly. ESPN has not done an entire day on whether the Giants should trade Eli Manning.
All of these things have happened to Donovan McNabb this offseason. It begs the question... Can he actually come back after this? After telling us that they're listening to offers for him and not signing him to an extension can the Eagles actually go into next year saying "We're happy with McNabb! Superbowl here we come!?"
I honestly can't see how. I can't see how McNabb could come back happy and how the Eagles could sell us on how they're happy to have him starting next year after all this. When you boil it down to the simple facts, it actually seems pretty obvious that he's gone.
He's going to be 34 years old on a team that's been shedding older players left & right. Despite the fact that he's said he would like an extension and to retire here, the team hasn't shown any apparent interest in giving him one. The team drafted a QB with a high pick just a few years ago... and now they're publicly saying they're listening to offers and plan on "evaluating" their situation. It's hard to find any indication that the Eagles even want him back. Are they going to let him test the open market next year? They sure aren't going to pay him $17 million for a franchise tag.
Am I missing something? There's nothing to indicate he'll be back. Andy Reid won't even commit to him as the QB next year. When asked if McNabb would be the Eagles starter Reid said, "Today he is our starting quarterback, yes."
Andy isn't stupid, he knows full well he could have said McNabb will be the starter next year and he didn
At this point, I don't think it's a matter of "if" he'll be traded. It's "when and where?"
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yea exactly what i thought
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I'm not so sure...
I understand what you’re saying, but McNabb has shouldered a lot from this team and this city in the past, and still went on to play a great season. If he does not get traded, he might view this whole ordeal as a motivation to go out and prove all of his haters wrong. And then as soon as everyone starts liking him again, he starts throwing wormballs. This is just how things work in this city.
Brent Celek > Chuck Norris
by Filth2Fury on Mar 25, 2010 5:11 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
He's had plenty of haters over his career
if there was something he hasn’t shown us, then he never had it to begin with. We’ve seen all that Donny has. I agree with JasonB, at this point there’s no way he sticks around. While he’s had people trying to kick him out of town for a while, the FO and particularly Andy had his back. But now, without the FO support, there’s no way he stays. I give it a few days before things get real uncomfortable
"Now Sav Rocca played for the Magpies in Australia. I don't know if it's a bird or a pie or what it is." Ike Reese
by The Badassador on Mar 25, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s what I mean… This isn’t some fans calling sports radio saying “McNabb sucks trade him!”
That kind of stuff has happened for years.
This is the Eagles doing all this. This has never happened before.
Which makes it that much more legit.
The Eagles WILL redeem themselves in the '10-'11 season, with a win at SuperBowl 45 in Dallas!
WHen he does get traded and the media says the fans ran him out of town(which they will say)… I’m going to bring back this post.
This isn’t the fans doing this. The Eagles are doing this.
Yes..
Because 99% of fans would be okay (Joe_D being a part of the 1%) to see McNabb here for one more year.
The Eagles WILL redeem themselves in the '10-'11 season, with a win at SuperBowl 45 in Dallas!
idk about that
im not a hater or all. but with the direction the team is taking clearly McNabb doesnt really belong on this team much longer. Why hinder Kolbs growth with our young offense by keeping McNabb for another “SB or bust” year when clearly we’re not exactly ready for that. Get what we can for him (i.e. picks, players, whatever) and let Kolb take the reins.
To me the Eagles are like that girlfriend that pisses u off, then u hate her, but the next morning you wake up and remember that thing u love so much about her
by XxBleedGreen5xX on Mar 25, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I also wouldn't be ok with one more year
Why let him just walk away as a FA? Get something for him while we still can
Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face
Bullshit people always think they are better with another qb. There have been many that never win the super bowl but are HOFers. They heard so many people complaining they might believe that there is more money in trading him. They don’t care if Kolb only wins 4 games like he would. If fans had supported him like miami with Marino this post wouldn’t have happened.
I wasn't even a year old but I stayed up to be outside the Vet with my Dad and Mom when the Phillies won the World Series 1980.
by Christopher A on Mar 25, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Other than the booing on draft day
I don’t think the fans really started turning on McNabb until the Birds’ consistent failures in the NFC championship games.
I think that’s when most fans looked at him and said ’you’re supposed to be elite, why aren’t you winning games by yourself’?
I understand what you're saying.
And I know that the pressure has never quite been this high. But McNabb is a tough dude, you have to give him that. If he was given the decision, he would be here even if the whole city wanted him gone.
I’m all for the McNabb trade, by the way, I’m just saying I wouldn’t be surprised to see him as our starting QB next season.
Brent Celek > Chuck Norris
I'd be surprised to see McNabb in an Eagles uniform
By June.
The Eagles WILL redeem themselves in the '10-'11 season, with a win at SuperBowl 45 in Dallas!
Your quote above your name will be wrong if Kolb starts. “Garontee!” Kolb is going to be a joke in the NFL. Everyone forgets when they pulled McNabb in that Ravens game Kolb looked worse throwing a NFL record 109 yard INT for TD. Enough said.
I wasn't even a year old but I stayed up to be outside the Vet with my Dad and Mom when the Phillies won the World Series 1980.
by Christopher A on Mar 25, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Kolb outplayed Mcnabb in the Ravens game
Kolb actually moved up the field.
I DOTH PROCLAIM THE COMMENCEMENT OF THE KEVEN KOLB ERA
I agree, McNabb’s a goner.
These are strange times indeed!
by Luxury_Used_Vehicles_By_Braman on Mar 25, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
It’d be nice if I could spell his first name correctly.
by Luxury_Used_Vehicles_By_Braman on Mar 25, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
If we get a first rounder for him I’m all game at this point. I’m just plain tired of the drama year in and year out, no matter how talented McNabb is at this period in his career. Either sign him to a long term deal or trade him.
"College is only 4 years. The Eagles are a lifetime pursuit." - IronHank
McNabb to 49ers by draft day.
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
McNabb's Chamionship game and Super Bowl career: 129/225, 57.3 completion percentage, 1426 yards, 6.3 YPA, 9 touchdowns, 9 interceptions, 72.9 QB rating, 1-5
Would be interesting
but who/what do the Niners give up?
Cody Benjamin
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Michael Lewis!
…just kidding
"Now Sav Rocca played for the Magpies in Australia. I don't know if it's a bird or a pie or what it is." Ike Reese
by The Badassador on Mar 25, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Frank Gore and Michael Crabtree
Plus their first rounds for the next three years. Haha.
I’d take their first. OR, a second and a player where we need them (DB, OL).. Do they have any good safeties, corners, or linemen?
The Eagles WILL redeem themselves in the '10-'11 season, with a win at SuperBowl 45 in Dallas!
They have 2 first rounders
I heard somewhere Sal Pal was saying that the 49ers would be a good fit for this reason and Mike Singletary is intending to win that division.
I think they have the 12th and the 16th, or it might be 14th. I’m not too sure about that.
I doubt we wrestle a first rounder from them, but if we do...
Rolando McClain very well could be there in the mid-teens. That would be incredible if we got him. Or Haden. He might be there too.
That is why I think that is going to be the spot for the Niners
I would like to have Patrick Willis or Manny Lawson and a 2nd or something though. Our Lbs are pretty weak. I highly doubt that would happen though.
I am just glad that I wrote some posts about Mcnabb early on, so now I feel better that everyone agrees with me.
First rounder
They have two of those. They could give up one for McNabb and still use the other one to draft someone.
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
McNabb's Chamionship game and Super Bowl career: 129/225, 57.3 completion percentage, 1426 yards, 6.3 YPA, 9 touchdowns, 9 interceptions, 72.9 QB rating, 1-5
I'd say they give up their #17.
But i wouldn’t want two picks that close together.. Probably just nit picking though.
The Eagles WILL redeem themselves in the '10-'11 season, with a win at SuperBowl 45 in Dallas!
Uh, why is that a problem?
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
McNabb's Chamionship game and Super Bowl career: 129/225, 57.3 completion percentage, 1426 yards, 6.3 YPA, 9 touchdowns, 9 interceptions, 72.9 QB rating, 1-5
No reason.
It just bugs me. Haha for no apparent reason. I’d say their #17 would be worth it. Nice if we got a player out of it too though.
The Eagles WILL redeem themselves in the '10-'11 season, with a win at SuperBowl 45 in Dallas!
no way we would
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
If Football Had A Church , Brian Dawkins Would Be My Preacher. -NPK
Creator of "Jibta" - NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Mar 26, 2010 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Does anyone else
feel as if everytime something about McNabb is posted, a contradiction appears as well and therefore makes the first post unimportant?
McNabb stories are going out of date fasttt
The Eagles WILL redeem themselves in the '10-'11 season, with a win at SuperBowl 45 in Dallas!
Well true..
And i wasn’t bashing this. Just saying it seems they’re going out of date quick
The Eagles WILL redeem themselves in the '10-'11 season, with a win at SuperBowl 45 in Dallas!
every time a angel gets its wings too
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
If Football Had A Church , Brian Dawkins Would Be My Preacher. -NPK
Creator of "Jibta" - NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Mar 26, 2010 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions
an*
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
If Football Had A Church , Brian Dawkins Would Be My Preacher. -NPK
Creator of "Jibta" - NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Mar 26, 2010 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions
cobb'd
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
If Football Had A Church , Brian Dawkins Would Be My Preacher. -NPK
Creator of "Jibta" - NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Mar 26, 2010 2:56 AM EDT up reply actions
lol jerk
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
If Football Had A Church , Brian Dawkins Would Be My Preacher. -NPK
Creator of "Jibta" - NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Mar 26, 2010 2:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Hahahahaha
What if something totally bizarre happened and the eagles traded all three. We would all feel like idiots.
Tim Tebow is the future of the Eagles!!
Totally joking by the way…
Brent Celek > Chuck Norris
So now that we the fans have come to consensus the McNabb is gone
I just wish they could get this over with quickly, otherwise it’s going to be a painful couple of days/weeks.
I’d be almost willing to take less just to get this done sooner. Nothing worse than a long, drawn-out divorce.
by Luxury_Used_Vehicles_By_Braman on Mar 25, 2010 5:42 PM EDT reply actions
Damn!
My cover’s blown. Well it’s been a great 11 years trying to win the big one for you guys.
Oakland here I come.
by Luxury_Used_Vehicles_By_Braman on Mar 25, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
would you rather
the trade come quick and painless, or for it be long and drawn out but get the best deal possible?
It’s not goddamned cancer, it’s a trade. If they’re going to get rid of the best QB in team history they better get the best deal they can.
I am the people's troll :3™
I agree
I would rather the later, I was asking him because he said him better happen soon theres nothing worse than a long divorce
The problem with that is if you keep holding out for a better deal and teams go with Plan B, then you might have to settle for a far lesser value deal
Oaklands First Rounder
Tommy Lawlor seems to agree with Jason La Confora and a lot of other people in that Oakland has been the most aggressive team so far.
He says that Oakland’s 8th overall pick has been involved in the conversation.
I’d rather have Nnamdi!
by Luxury_Used_Vehicles_By_Braman on Mar 25, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
You cant have him!
We love NNamdi! How about, Mcnabb for Michael Huff , our 2nd rounder, and a future 2nd?
We all love the Warriors..
We all hate Cohan as an owner of this franchise…
So out of curiosity
Are you guys hearing anything on your side?
by Luxury_Used_Vehicles_By_Braman on Mar 25, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I know
I’m hoping Tommy’s right.
One thing I do think is we’ll get at least some package equivalent to a 1st round pick.
(ex: 2nd rounder and player, 2nd and 3rd, or 1st)
I don’t think there’s any way the Eagles will settle for one, single, lonely 2nd round pick for McNabb. That won’t be enough.
Team chemistry
has been upset – McNabb can go if the price is right?
If you do not receive the right offer is McNabb your starter for 2010? So you tell your starting QB in March we are trying to trade you but no one offered enough so we kept you – but we are not going to give you a contract extension.
Thiink about it – McNabb is now a lame duck QB in Philly.
The situation is only going to be resolved if McNabb is traded. Other teams know this so they can offer less as the Eagles have put themselves in a hole.
by G Fan in England on Mar 25, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd take it right now..
The Eagles WILL redeem themselves in the '10-'11 season, with a win at SuperBowl 45 in Dallas!
Yeah
I’m not gonna get my hopes up for this.
8th overall is A LOT for McNabb at this point in his career.
…. but then again, it’s Oakland we’re talking about.
Al Davis..
He’ll probably have McNabb run a 40 before he comes
The Eagles WILL redeem themselves in the '10-'11 season, with a win at SuperBowl 45 in Dallas!
LMAO
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
If Football Had A Church , Brian Dawkins Would Be My Preacher. -NPK
Creator of "Jibta" - NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Mar 26, 2010 2:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Gah
Sending McNabb to Oakland would be a total slap to the face…disrespect wouldn’t even come close to it…
by LegendKnight22 on Mar 25, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
he could return. Its part of FB. They are a commodity. Commodities are meant to be shopped traded and valued. McNabb wouldn’t play for the eagles for free. And if they can do better they would. In reality we all grow old and are replaceable.
"Buy low sell high!"
Good point, but...
This isn’t any old “commodity”.
This is Donovan McNabb. Best QB in Eagles franchise history. The QB that took this franchise to 5 NFC Championship Games and still continued to get abused and wripped by a lot of people.
This isn’t like the time when McNabb was put back into the lineup after being benched against the Ravens. This is the Eagles admitting that they’re willing to trade him. And with all the other factors involved, I tend to agree with Jason. I’d hate to say it, but I don’t know if the relationship is fixable at this point.
I honestly don't care when and where he's traded...
I just want to know how much we will get in return
About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.
McNabb
I don’t count on anything happening. I think McNabb will probably go, but how sure was everyone that Sheldon Brown was gone last year? Lito Sheppard was traded a year after everyone thought he was gone.
No guarantees here
Im gonna be sad to see McNabb go
Im a McNabb fan but i also am one of the people that think Kolb should be the next QB. Trading McNabb is whats best for the team. If it does happen, it will probably feel like one of those days after dawkins went to denver.
I agree
As far as my opinions go, I do think that McNabb is probably gone. I wouldn’t mind giving him one more year, considiring last year was hardly his fault. I doubt Kolb would’ve lead us as far with so many injuries. But i will be pretty sad to see him go. He’s taken a lot of shit over the years and he doesn’t deserve to rot in Oakland.
by greeninireland on Mar 25, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Vick: Excellent job, Juh-mark. This sets the stage nicely for an epic end-of-season fail by Donnie, causing the fan base to finally turn against him and ship his ass out of town.
Russell: Anything you say, boss. Just remember half of your Nike proceeds go to me. This 16-game season shit really ain’t my thing.
Vick: Fo’ shizzle. Now I just got to figure out how to get golden boy Kevin out of the picture.
McNabb: What the f you two whispering about?
Vick: Nothing, boss. Just congratulating Jamarcus here.
/snickers, “suckers, hehehe”
//signs endorsement deal with Reebok
by Luxury_Used_Vehicles_By_Braman on Mar 25, 2010 6:19 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Man
McNabbs expression there makes me feel awfully bad for him. And Jamarcus is such a douche.
by greeninireland on Mar 25, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Am I missing some more loaded/negative quote
``I’m listening (to offers) out there,’’ Reid said at the NFC coaches media breakfast. ``I’m not saying I’m doing anything. But we’re keeping our ears open. We’re evaluating, taking in the situation right now,’’ Reid said. ``I don’t worry about (what other people are saying). It’s an evaluation process right now. We’re kind of gathering everything up and we’ll take it back to Philadelphia and see where we’re at.’’
I’m a McNabb fan. I’ve generally enjoyed rooting for him and watching him the past 11 season, though I think in the Eagles’ current situation it makes sense now to switch to Kolb now.
BUT — I don’t see any loaded negativity in this quote more than that they’re looking at their options. From just what’s been said, I think they left the door open to trading Kolb and extending McNabb.
From all the rumors, it doesn’t seem like that’s going to happen. But I think by keeping their public statements typically, Reidesquely bland, they’ve left the door open to McNabb coming back w/o any hard feelings.
I think the rumors make it more likely
You can make an irrelevant team relevant by picking up a star like Donovan. People are going to want to watch your games because they want to see how McNabb does on another team. How many people do you think watched the Jets that year just to see how Favre did? Look how much coverage these rumors are getting! Who gives a shit about the Rams outside of St. Louis? All you can say about them is that they have been bad. But with the rumors people start talking about the Rams. Look for McNabb to go somewhere that needs a new feel, a new instant boost.
I think its possible they go with another of McNabb, maybe even more. If they extend him it will be for cheap and it will be soon, then they will ship Kolb for a 1st and 3rd. I mean if you want to draft Teebow in the third and go with him in 3 years when McNabb retires, I wouldn’t really complain. I think Teebow could make it, if he ends up being any good in the NFL he’ll be great (meaning 75% total bust, 25% chance 2 or 3 time SB winner). You could get the browns or bills pick and grab berry, then LB than OL than QB, cornor,
Smokescreens and denials
The Rams have denied, as have the Raiders as have the Cardinals.
Now that is either smokescreens or true denials.
I see McNabb has been quoted as saying trade me quick if you are going to trade me.
If anything today has lowered the value rather than raised the value of McNabb.
GM’s of other teams can say well I will give you a 3rd let me know what you think. approach.
What are the Eagles going to do? Keep him until the price is right and if it is not who starts McNabb or Kolb?
The FO needs to act quick because the longer it goes on the more it will derail your season.
by G Fan in England on Mar 25, 2010 6:32 PM EDT reply actions
FUCKING A
That’s a GREAT trade!!!! Nmandi is SHUT DOWN..Literally . What was the stat? I think he went 6 games without ANYONE throwing the ball to himl… holy crap
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
To be honest id rather Nnamdi and Asante. Trade sheldon. Force everyone to throw to Asante. Picks galore.
by greeninireland on Mar 25, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Nnamdi is not coming
His contract is garbage. Practically all guaranteed and he is slated to make almost $17 million in his third year
Tommy Lawlor
Is saying the 8th pick overall is being talked about in a deal for Mcnabb.
As I said above
Raiders have denied talks
by G Fan in England on Mar 25, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
True
But if teams know McNabb is available why trade for him before the draft when OTA’s start in May.
You wait until after the draft and offer a 2011 pick – what are the Eagles going to do? Say no and play McNabb in 2010 or accept whatever they can get.
This could become a Dutch auction with the price getting lower.
by G Fan in England on Mar 25, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
This could become a Dutch auction with the price getting lower.
As a Giants fan, you could only hope…
Haha I can see Giant, Cowboy, Redskin fans right about now… they’re all panicking and hoping the Eagles get shafted.
Newsflash for ya… it’s not gonna happen.
What
is the Eagle leverage?
A QB in the last year of his contract who you are not extending and you have a replacement ready.
The Eagles need to move McNabb given those circumstances and other teams know that and will offer accordingly. The longer it goes on and if it does not happen before the draft his value drops more as teams will be offering a 2011 draft pick knowing the Eagles do not want him on the 2010 team.
I am not hoping the Eagles get shafted – but the longer it drags on the messier it gets for you which only impacts on your 2010 season.
by G Fan in England on Mar 26, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
knowing the Eagles do not want him on the 2010 team.
No one knows this. I guarantee the Eagles would be much happier going into the 2010 season with the current 3 QB’s rather than “settling” for cheap compensation for McNabb.
There’s no question they’ll keep him before they settle for some measley 2011 draft pick. I guarantee you that.
I Suspect this is more posturing than anything else
by Lombardi and Broad on Mar 26, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
No, it’s pretty obvious. Anybody who thinks the Eagles will trade McNabb “just to trade him” is ignorant. Anybody who thinks they’re just going to “get what they can for him” does not know the Eagles FO.
They’ll bite the bullet and keep all 3 QB’s before they accept some lousy 2011 2nd or 3rd round pick (alone). Now if that’s just a piece of the deal, then fine, but that will not be the only compensation they accept.
So does
McNabb get a contract extension if not he walks in 2011 and you get nothing for him unless you franchise at 17 mil for one year.
by G Fan in England on Mar 26, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I would extend McNabb and ask Kolb to be Don Strock
(Do some research on Don Strock Miami Dolphins – He’s actually a local guy, Owen J. Roberts near Pottstown I think.)
by Lombardi and Broad on Mar 26, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
and how much
are you going to pay Kolb to be Strock as I would have a hunch that Kolb will want starter like money which he would get if he could get to another team!
by G Fan in England on Mar 26, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Will Kolb
be really happy knowing that he would have been the starter if the offer for McNabb was right but now he is on the bench.
Is McNabb happy knowing he was on the verge on being traded and is playing without an extension.
Is Vick really happy with just wildcat snaps.
by G Fan in England on Mar 26, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Sad thing for McNabb is that i dont think there's anyway he wins a SB anywhere that he'd be headed
When its all said and done and he’s retired I still think the 2002 season is gonna be the one that haunts him. Beat the Bucs in a game they should’ve won and he’s got his ring
I'd rather be an Eagles fan till the day i die and go 0-16 every year than be a cockroach cowboys fan
IF, IF, IF
he goes to Minnesota (which isn’t out of the question) then I think he has a good chance to win it all.
All these trade rumors are making me c um in my pants
8th overall? Nnamdi? Otagwe? !!!!!!!!!!!!!
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
Yea I saw that but....
Why give up TWO players for one..more so, Asante who is our only ball-hawk. Yep, he’s not a shut down CB, and he can’t tackle very good, but he literally gives us chances with his turnover capability!! Id rather give them Brown only becuz he older and will soon slow down and decline. But honestly, Brown and Nnamdi would be awesome..if this was 3 or 4 years ago, as Sheldon would be that much younger!
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
Its tough
If this were to happen. Brown and Nnamdi or Nnamdi and Asante!?! Which would u rather have as of right now???
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
WTF?????
I’m sick and tired of hearing that McNabb is the reason the Eagles can’t win the super bowl. McNabb put Philly on the football map, I remember when the Eagles absolutely sucked before he got there and now they will suck again if he goes. Kevin Kolb is not the answer people. But if they do make the wrong move and trade McNabb, they need to keep Kolb on the bench (or just get rid of him) and pay Vick long term to be the starter. At the very least, the games will be exciting to watch with Vick at the helm. Good luck DMac wherever you end up!
McNabb put Philly on the football map
I would argue that Reid put Philly on the football map.
They call me The Professor.
Because Reid didn’t draft him….
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Mar 26, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Being on the map isn’t good enough anymore. That’s why no GM has come out publicly and said “Hell yeah, I’ll take McNabb! It’s a no brainer, and you can have a first-round draft choice!”
by donniethelion on Mar 26, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
DMac The Fall Guy
The people who want him gone are the same people who wanted Ricky Williams instead. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to look at both careers and see which one was the better pick. Just trade Donovan already. Trade him to a team that knows there’s two facets of an offense and that has a coach that understands the word “adjustment”. Meanwhile the Eagles can go 4-12 a couple years with Kevin “I’ve had two good games and now I’m the second coming of JP Losman” Kolb, try to eventually draft another QB, and go into a 7 year tailspin “rebuilding” phase. Unfortunately it will take those drastic measure for people to finally realize “maybe trading McNabb WASN’T the best thing to do.”
Couldn't have said it better myself
If McNabb does get traded, I hope he ends up in Arizona and takes them to the Super Bowl. Best receiver in the league, a solid offense and defense and a respectable coach. I’ll be a Cardinal fan if that happens! You go get em DMac!!!!!
best part about this article
you grouped Eli in with peyton, brady, and brees. so since peyton, brees, and brady are the leagues best QB’s, I can only assume you guys include Eli in with the best QBs in the league.
its about time
Lawyer: Peter, Sarah has decided to press sexual harrasssment charges against you.
Peter: Sarah...Is that the one we video taped taking a dump?
by Plaxico Burress on Mar 26, 2010 11:10 AM EDT reply actions
Eli is the 3rd best QB in the division, his last name is why he is relevant.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Mar 26, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
no thats wrong
im pretty sure eli wears a monster ring around at all times… which other QB in the division has one of those? o yea none of them
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by Plaxico Burress on Mar 26, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
One throw that got caught by a helmet and he's an MVP
The Giants “D” won that game.
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They sure did
but Eli manned up, drove 80 yards down feild with under 2 1/2 mins to go, made perfect throws, made the greatest play in superbowl history, and hit plax in the endzone with 45 seconds to spare.
sounds a pretty damn good QB to me. Defense kept the game close… Eli won it on that last drive. any other QB WOULD NOT have won that game.
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by Plaxico Burress on Mar 26, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
ANY other QB wouldn't have won that game??
you’re high. nobody else in all the league would have won that game for the Giants? Dood, if Brees or Rivers or Peyton or Kolb were on the Giants that year, they would have won that Superbowl by 20 and wouldn’t have had to drive at the end.
put into the same circumstance eli was put in on that last drive
he is the only QB that would have won that game, yes. Eli is known for his 4th quarter comebacks.. hes had several in his short career already. the 2007 SB was just another example of how Eli is the QB you want behind center when you have less then 2 mins left in the 4th and your down by 6 or less.
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by Plaxico Burress on Mar 26, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
hahaha just noticed you said Kolb in there
i cant wait for mcnabb to be gone.. you guys are going to kicking yourselves sooooo hard come this time next year
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by Plaxico Burress on Mar 26, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
thats not fair bisch
Any other QB would have won by 20? They were 18-0 at that point, give there defense credit for holding us down to that point. The patriots that year weren’t getting beat by anyone by 20 points, that’s absurd.
by wilddre22 on Mar 26, 2010 11:55 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
true, I exaggerate
But with another QB, I believe the Giants would have been better off in the game as a whole and would have been ahead. Just conjecture, nothing specific.
Plus there was holding on the helmet play that wasn't called
But hey, the Giants won. I don’t like it but I have to deal with it.
What bugs me more is that Manning got the MVP. Sure he made a couple of good throws at the end. The helmet play was a prayer that got answered. But he really didn’t do much up to that point. Someone on defense should have gotten the MVP.
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Defense as a whole should have gotten MVP
but i dont think they do it like that. either the whole D gets it or Eli. Maybe even Tyree. He had a TD earlier in the game then that huge catch. Can almost make an arguement for him being MVP
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by Plaxico Burress on Mar 26, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
theres holding on every single play that isnt called
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by Plaxico Burress on Mar 26, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Eli made the greatest play in superbowl history,
No, no, no, no, NO…. Eli didn’t make the greatest play in superbowl history. Calling it the greatest play is debatable first of all… but if you want to call it that…
David Tyree made the greatest play in Super Bowl history… Eli just threw it to him (with his eyes closed, then dropped to his knees to pray that someone in a Giants uniform would catch it)
yea eli threw it to him
after he escaped a pile up, broke 2 tackles, scrambled away from the cluster F goin on with the OL and DL, found an open man, made a perfect throw. then yes David tyree made the greatest catch in superbowl history.. after Eli made the best scramble, avoid sacks, scramble, avoid sacks, find a man, perfect throw in super bowl history
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by Plaxico Burress on Mar 26, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow
What a sad and delusional philosophy you have. I cant say for sure how the first 3.75 quarters went, but the one exceptional play Eli made was the scramble on the Tyree catch. As for Eli’s perfect throws, what happened on the near pick by Samuel? Yeah, I know, he didn’t catch it, but not because Eli somehow ‘manned up’ and willed him to miss it. Sometimes you get breaks, credit to Eli for surviving the mistake and getting to the endzone, (involving a 4th and 1 run conversion that Eli was inconsequential to) but if you think no other QB could have done that, you’re about as big a fool as there is.
Question for you
Name the QB’s that have lead there team to a TD in the last two minutes of a SB when only a TD would do to win the game as they were behind by 4 points.
Hint (there is only one QB on the list).
As for holding on the Tyree catch if you watch the replays you will see that Harrison has hold of and yanks down Tyree’s collar before the ball arrives so that was pass interference.
by G Fan in England on Mar 26, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
+1000000000000000000
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by Plaxico Burress on Mar 26, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
wow
what a sad and delusional philosophy you have. since your team has yet to ever win the big game, you have to trash the incredible play of a man named Eli manning and how we lead his team to a superbowl victory. something no quarterback you have ever rooted has done. dont hate just to hate. admit that eli played phenominal and like g fan in engalnd said below.. find me one other QB that has done what eli did that game.. wait.. u cant find one? o yea cuz only eli has.
Boom
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by Plaxico Burress on Mar 26, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
and like g fan in engalnd said below...
or above… same thing
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by Plaxico Burress on Mar 26, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
dont you have 0 superbowl wins to go and explain
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by Plaxico Burress on Mar 26, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Meh
Romo is a bit better, Manning is a bit more consistent. All 4 division QBs have trouble with consistency. On any given day I think McNabb/Romo/Manning can have a top 3 QB game, or a bottom 10. Even Campbell has his moments.
by BarbarosaNo on Mar 26, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
agreed
any of the 3 can out play any other on any day
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by Plaxico Burress on Mar 26, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I have a feeling
One of the young QBs (Romo, Manning, Kolb, maybe the Redskins draft someone) is going to break out in the next couple of years and help their team dominate the division for the next decade. Please let it be Kolb…
by BarbarosaNo on Mar 26, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
As long as
that QB isnt Kolb, Romo or skins QB ill be ok with that
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by Plaxico Burress on Mar 26, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I might be wrong about this, but...
..I believe the number of QBs who have started a SB who went on to lead a different team to a SB victory is zero. Didn’t Kolb used to hunt wild pigs with just a hunting knife? Don’t mess with him!!!
Can't think of any
But Favre and Cunningham came pretty close.
by BarbarosaNo on Mar 26, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
My Top 5 All-Time QB's that never won a Super Bowl
1) Dan Marino HOF
2) Fran Tarkenton HOF
3) Warren Moon HOF
4) Jim Kelly HOF
5) Donovan McNabb Borderline HOF
Are we really thinking of trading Donovan McNabb? Is it any of those other QB’s complete fault that their teams did not win the big one? As with Don MOST of the time it was the PLAY of the NWASB QB that had the team in position in the first place. This is a mistake and will always be a mistake when all is said and done if he is traded.
by Lombardi and Broad on Mar 26, 2010 12:05 PM EDT reply actions
How about Dan Fouts? I get the feeling people don't know football too well. If you have a
franchise QB, you are always building around that franchise QB. Donovan is still a franchise QB. He was last year! This all makes no sense. Did Don Strock ever really replace Bob Griese? NO Even though he showed promise (Like Kolb & AJ Feeley), a backup is a backup. Kolb played like a backup if you ask me taking the good and the bad into consideration. He didn’t look like a starter let alone a franchise QB. Come on man!
by Lombardi and Broad on Mar 26, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Jim Hart, Kenny Anderson...Really good QB's never made it. But they never got traded
because they didn’t win it. What the crap is going on with you anti-McNabb folks?
by Lombardi and Broad on Mar 26, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Anti-McNabb folks
It isn’t so much being anti-McNabb as, Eagles either keep McNabb for one more year and then he walks away, or resign him long-term and part ways with Kolb, who Andy Reid apparently loved as much or more than McNabb when he drafted him. No question now if McNabb wasn’t here (and Reid was), Reid would have jumped on Kolb right away instead of the juggling he did with the first round pick. We’ve all seen very little of Kolb, but he has shown signs of being a little more accurate with his short and medium throws, being more decisive executing the play calls, etc. McNabb turns too many plays into sandlot football.
by donniethelion on Mar 26, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
when mcnabb turns plays into sandlot football
it usually turns out great for you. thats why hes such a great qb.. his ability to extend the play and make something out of nothing.
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by Plaxico Burress on Mar 26, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
That's a shame when a Giant fan has to state the very thing we take for
granted. But then too, I don’t have the hate for the Giants that I have for the skins and the cowtwits either.
by Lombardi and Broad on Mar 26, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
yea the cowshits easily top my most hated list
sorry but you guys are number 2. the skins suck to bad to really hate them
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by Plaxico Burress on Mar 26, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the hate between Giants and Eagles fans has to do with
whomever is getting the best of the other at the time. I couldn’t stand you guys about 6 years ago when you beat us NINE STRAIGHT! I was sick of the Giants. But of late, we gotta be pretty sickening to you. But I hate the ‘boys and the skins and all of that “hail to the redskins” always gets me up. Plus ’skin fans think that the ’skins are the ONLY team in the NFL. Everything down there is about the redskins. I used to work down there. SICKENING! At least when I’m on the train to NY, there’s that passionate but fun back and forth real sports fan stuff between the Giants and Eagles fans. And hell, who didn’t love Lawrence Taylor?
by Lombardi and Broad on Mar 29, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
and trust me
all of us at Big Blue View are praying you trade mcnabb along with, what it looks like, the majority over here at BGN. it would be very very nice to not have to deal with mcnabb anymore
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