Offensive Line Depth
2009 Preseason
Peters. Herremans, Jackson. Andrews. Andrews. Pretty damn good looking offensive line on paper. Unfortunately, on paper is the only place that line played together. Shawn Andrews re-aggravated his back injury. Todd Herremans suffered a "stress reaction" in his left foot. Stacy Andrews wasn't 100%, and wasn't exactly effective. For the first couple weeks of the season, our starters were Peters, Cole, Jackson, Jean-Gilles, and Justice. That's quite a departure from the expected.
2009 Season
By the end of the season, of course, Shawn Andrews was placed on IR, Jamaal Jackson had torn his ACL, and Stacy Andrews had failed to live up to expectations. Our offense looked pathetic and our offensive line was abused by the Cowboys in consecutive weeks. Justice was a pleasant surprise, by missing the fewest snaps amongst the line. Jason Peters, aside from a few miscues, was mostly productive as well.
Is depth really an concern?
I think the Eagles lack of moves during free agency is very telling. They've obviously been in no hurry to address the offensive line through free agency. Are they comfortable with their current backups? Cole has had more playing time than most starters. Max Jean-Gilles is adequate though not preferable. Mike McGlynn will be entering his third year as a player. Fenuki Tupou will enter his second season. Are the Eagles more likely to draft an offensive lineman and simply insert him higher than players that have been around? I'm not sure that's the case.
The Eagles highly value versatility. This is shown by the fact that almost everyone on the line is capable of playing more than one position. Herremans and Andrews can play tackle. Cole can play center or guard. Lesser known players, however might be positioned to step up this year. I think Mike McGlynn is definitely ready to compete for a spot on the active roster from week to week as the backup center who can also play both guard positions. Fenuki Tupou was a highly regarded tackle at Oregon and slipped a little in the draft due to a very innocuous incident involving an agent.
Has free agency told us anything?
The Eagles have been extremely active this offseason, but have yet to make a single change to our offensive line except for releasing Shawn Andrews. I think the best move the Eagles could make would be to sign a veteran center. This keeps Nick Cole as a backup guard, where he was most comfortable and most productive. But it also keeps him available as the backup center. This added layer of depth could make a tremendous difference down the line. Kevin Mawae is still available and may be the best solution.
From a few articles I've read, the 39 year-old president of the NFLPA will likely command little more than the veteran's minimum salary. He is clearly a natural leader, and last year he anchored a line that paved the way for 2,000 yard rusher Chris Johnson. His durability is amongst the best. He's missed 3 games in the last 4 years. Before missing 10 games in 2005, he had gone 10 straight seasons without missing a game.
It'd definitely be out of the ordinary for the Eagles to bring in someone Mawae's age, but circumstances might overcome the front office's normal tendencies. I don't think Mawae is a necessary signing, but I think signing a fill-in for one year would be very prudent.
Meet the probable 2010 starters
Jason Peters
Our left tackle, Peters was acquired via a trade with the Bills last year. Maybe Peters didn't live up to the Andy Reid's hype, but he was probably still our best offensive lineman in 2009. He was tasked with defending McNabb's blindside, where he allowed 6 sacks, 4 QB hits, and 12 pressures. Not exactly elite, but he easily ranks inside the top 10 with those numbers, arguably top 5.
Todd Herremans
Herremans missed the first 5 weeks of the season with the aforementioned stress reaction. His strength is pass blocking and he's above average at run blocking. He's not the flashiest guy, but he's a solid starter, no matter what JIBTA says. He also has been known to fill-in at left tackle in a pinch.
Nick Cole
Nick Cole has proven himself invaluable to this team. Capable of starting all three interior line positions, his versatility and capable (though not elite) blocking skills have made him simply indispensable. Still considered a backup (Ha!), Cole has started 20 consecutive regular season games spanning the last two seasons in addition to 4 playoff starts in that same time frame. I don't think that streak is about to break. With a training camp and preseason to prepare at center, I think the mishaps we saw at the end of last season will become a distant memory.
Stacy Andrews
Stacy is perhaps the biggest question mark going into the next season. Was he affected by his injury? Will he ever again be the player who was once franchised by the Bengals and signed to a very lucrative contract by the Eagles? Hopefully he is. The Eagles think he will be. There were plenty of excuses for what happened last year, but it was a bona fide disaster any way you slice it.
Stacy Andrews saw hardly any playing time. He claimed his knee was not an issue. Was he unfamiliar with the playbook? How much time would he require to take it in? Hopefully, the lack of a full training camp and preaseason was a setback that he just didn't recover from. I think there's a pretty good chance he becomes the guy we need him to be.
Winston Justice
Probably the guy who was least expected to play the most snaps. Before the preseason, some even predicted he'd be cut. However, he filled in and played well enough that the Eagles signed him to an extension and view him as the starter for years to come. His emergence made the decision to cut Shawn Andrews easier to swallow.
The Guys Who Might Make This Bearable
Mike McGlynn
Meet the next Nick Cole. Mike McGlynn has quietly stayed in the background as his offensive line comrades have fallen like flies. He was on the 53 man roster for each week last year, and he was activated in week 17 after Jamaal Jackson injured his knee. You might be wondering "If he's so good, why was he inactive all year?" It's a valid question, but I think that's answered by the fact that we simply had the depth at guard. Herremans was healthy, and Cole was by far our best option at right guard. Max Jean-Gilles had more experience, leaving McGlynn as the odd man out.
So where does McGlynn fit in? He's able to play each of the interior line positions, just like Cole. Of the snaps he received during the preaseason, the majority of his snaps came at left guard, but he also was the player snapping the ball for a bit. He played center in high school, and displayed plenty of versatility at Pitt, playing guard and tackle. Like I mentioned earlier, he was activated in Week 17, and I think that's because he's considered the next player on the depth chart at center. I think he'll be someone to keep a very close eye on in the preseason.
Fenuki Tupou
One guy isn't going to be enough to solidify the line. That's where Fenuki Tupou steps in. The Eagles were lucky to get him near the end of the 5th round last year. Tupou was projected to go in round 3 by most projections.
First thing you realize about him is that he's a big dude. 6'6" and 330 lbs. What you might not know about him are his credentials. How good was he? Well, he's the reason Max Unger was a center and not a left tackle. Tupou played well enough Oregon coaches felt the team was better served moving Unger to center and inserting Tupou into the lineup at left tackle.
He isn't considered left tackle material in the NFL, sadly. However, he is able to play either guard position in addition to right tackle. The Eagles drafted him, gave him a test run during the preseason, and didn't want to risk losing him on the practice squad. Therefore, he was put on injured reserve, thus securing his services for the 2010 season.
A.Q. Shipley and Dallas Reynolds
OK, I'll admit I know nothing about these guys. Shipley is a center the Steelers drafted in the 7th round not so long ago. Dallas Reynolds' normal position is guard, but I've also seen him listed at center. I don't think either have ever been on the active roster.
Best case scenario
Jason Peters improves upon last year and demonstrates the elite ability that enticed Andy Reid to trade with Buffalo. He dominates the competition, and our yet-to-be-determined quarterback remains healthy and upright against very tough NFC East defensive ends.
Jamaal Jackson has an unexpected lightning fast recovery. Optimistic projections have Jackson returning to the playing field as early as August. If he can somehow make that recovery timeline happen, he could return to a starting role in the first few weeks of the season.
Stacy Andrews regains his form and becomes a dominant guard once again. His ACL tear a distant memory, he's fully recovered and as strong as ever. After a year and an offseason, the new offense is second nature to him and he has no excuses and no lapses in play.
Herremans continues to play well and stays healthy. Justice proves it was not a mistake to make him the starter and extend him.
Worst case scenario
Jason Peters is obviously a very important component to the offensive line. If he is out, we're certainly not improved by sliding Herremans out to left tackle, but we're not screwed either. If Peters becomes injured, Herremans moves out, and Jean-Gilles or McGlynn steps in at left guard (assuming Nick Cole is still the center).
If Herremans becomes injured, Jean-Gilles will likely take over for him. If Nick Cole becomes injured, McGlynn takes over for him.
At right guard, we'll be plenty deep. Stacy Andrews will be the starter. McGlynn, MJG, and Tupou will all be available to back him up. At right tackle, if Justice become hurt, Stacy Andrews would likely be the first choice. Behind him would be Stacy Andrews.
What are the absolute worst case scenarios, though? If two (or more) starters go down, we could be seriously screwed, especially if one of those starters is Peters. His production is the least replaceable. Herremans playing left tackle is a dropoff. However, if Herremans is injured at the same time, that could be simply disastrous. Who would step in at left tackle? Justice would likely be the choice. However, this is not a situation that would leave the Eagles fanbase feeling extremely confident.
Cole becoming injured would hurt as well. Because of his versatility, an injury to Cole would simply cause serious damage to our depth.
I think the right side of the line would survive fine unless both Andrews and Justice were hurt at the same time.
In Conclusion
I know we're not all exactly comfortable with the idea of inexperienced players getting significant roles. Especially if those players play a position that doesn't get a lot of press, yet we know to be extremely important. However, it's more than likely that at least two current Eagles step into a more prominent role.
I feel as though the Eagles should bring in a veteran center to ensure an added layer of depth by keeping Nick Cole available. If he's not occupied playing center, then an injury to anyone on the line is survivable. If Peters or Justice is hurt, Herremans or Andrews slide out to replace them, and Nick Cole would come in to play guard. If a guard or center is hurt, Cole comes in for them. However, a lot of flexibility is sacrificed if we go into the season with Cole as the starter.
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Tupou, McGlynn, and Andrews: unknown quantities
Dunlap and Jean-Gilles: dead weight
I have no idea what condition Andrews will be in, whether he can start by September at RG or not. If he can, Cole is the center unless a center is taken in the draft and outplays Cole at that spot.
I have been making my draft projections based on a no-Andrews scenario, which mean that I see drafting someone to take the other spot that Cole won’t play (C/RG) as a primary need. Cole is probably better at RG than at C, but in general centers are harder to find than guards.
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I don't understand why people hate on MJG so much
He’s no stud, but he’s a solid backup guard should someone go down. He’s cheap, won’t be bitchin about his salary, and provides exellent depth if nothing else. Every team needs back up guys, and if your backups are stars, your just wasting money and talent. I think he’s a vital part of our OLine, def not dead weight.
ever since he broke his ankle he's to afraid..
if you watch him he’s lost his explosion off the LOS and he can hardly push anyone…He’s been Pussified.
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"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
He didn't do well in the last 2 Cowboy games
Yes, you expect your backups not to be as good as your starters, but you expect your backups to be able to get the job done when they have to. Which MJG didn’t do.
I don’t “hate” MJG, but I think there is plenty of room for an upgrade and therefore I’d rather see somebody new get drafted.
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Getting an O line man
in this draft should be a priority. I don’t know how high or who exactly but someone definetely. Jamaal Jackson is getting up there in age, and we have a few injury questions so having a future starter/quick fill in makes a ton of sense. I give Andy all the credit in the world when it comes to our O line. He knows how to form one and how to make it work. So I guess all we can do is wait and see.
Would love for us to get in this draft:
Maurkice Puncey, Mike Iuapti, Jon Asamoah or John Jerry. Any of these 4 would be wins in my opinion. Also like Vladmir Ducasse. But like I said, whoever Andy gets I am sure will turn into a productive player for us. Nice write up.
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Rodger Saffold seems like he’d be a great value with our first pick in the third.
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Saffold will be long gone
you`d be lucky to get him with your 2nd rd pick, What about Iupati in rd 1?
Reynolds
I believe was promoted from the practice squad at the very end of last year after Jackson was placed on IR. He never saw a snap, but has played at both center and guard during training camp/preseason with the Eagles.
Shipley was drafted by the Steelers in the 7th round of last year’s draft and spent the year on their practice squad. He’s a bit small at 6’0" 298lbs, but apparently has a lot of potential.
Great post though. I’m definitely looking forward to seeing more of McGlynn, Tupou and the younger guys this summer.
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There aren't any young with upside free agents(basically all were tendered)
So I expect this to be a priority in the draft. I’m hoping our 1st pick is a LB, but I wouldn’t be shocked if it ended-up being a OL
No, I disagree
I think it goes OL, LB, S, CB, DE. Now that we got Tapp and Marlin Jackson we got solid, while not spectacular, at the safety and defensive end positions. Either of those two could become very good. I think O-line depth is most important, followed by getting a SAM player. We could still use a safety to groom as Mikell’s or Jackson’s replacement and we need a good young CB since ours are getting old. Also, a late round DE could be drafted for another potentially solid pass rusher of the future.
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Wouldn't the.....
worst case senario be the whole line blowing up in a freak plane accident?
Just sayin.
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but I just wanna deliver one of these right in your suck hole.
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by chrisbeomsuh on Mar 24, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Zero depth right now
McGlynn is pretty much a bust (he wasn’t even dressing most weeks last year) and isn’t any depth really right now because Cole is the only C on the roster and Andrews is at RG. Topou is a giant question mark but probably will be counted on to be the mix as a backup at G.
That’s it. If Peters go down, they are screwed. Ditto on Justice. When Herremans did play a limited amount of LT last year when Peters missed time (Raiders game), he really struggled. It wouldn’t surprise me if they don’t draft a T in the middle rounds.
I like you idea to sign Mawae. It gives them a bit of flexibility and allows them to decide if they want to start Cole at RG or use him as a valuable backup. Eagles are almost certainly.
They are almost certainly going to use a high draft pick too on an interior lineman too. I would be really surprised if the starters on the interior line are set yet.
He was a bust because he wasn’t dressing? I think he wasn’t dressing because Nick Cole, MJG, Stacy Andrews, and Jamaal Jackson were all ahead of him. That’s a lot of money and veteran depth to wade through.
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McGlynn has been in the league 2 years now, was a pretty high draft choice, and yet has failed to move up the depth chart. That speaks volume. If he wasn’t such a high draft choice, I would bet that there was a good chance he would be cut in training camp especially if the Eagles use a high draft choice on a C/G.
A fourth round pick isn’t a high pick by any standards. It was a mid-round pick, and we obviously hadn’t needed him to this point with MJG and Cole, who both have 2 more years experience. That’s the only reason he’s been kept down so low. Cole has been very important to the team. MJG played pretty well in 2008 and wasn’t horrible last year, though he did seem to decline. Why would we need to activate McGlynn when Cole and MJG were healthy, with Jackson, Herremans, and Stacy Andrews ALSO active?
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Not a high draft pick but he was still someone that should have been able to potentially beat out Cole or MJG. He wasn’t even in the discussion really last year even after Jackson’s injury or with Andrews being sent to the depths of the bench.
Cole was undrafted. MJG was drafted in the 4th. Should MJG be automatically ahead of Cole? Why should McGlynn be automatically ahead of those guys, especially with one who has proven himself as much as Cole has? Your comments have absolutely no basis.
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Cole was undrafted. MJG was drafted in the 4th. Should MJG be automatically ahead of Cole? Why should McGlynn be automatically ahead of those guys, especially with one who has proven himself as much as Cole has?
Where did I say that McGlynn should be ahead of Cole or MJG simply because of his draft position? Or MJG ahead of Cole? That’s right I didn’t.
McGlynn has been in the league two years and hasn’t been able to move ahead of Cole/MJG even though the Eagles weren’t that high on MJG last year. Maybe McGlynn does factor into the mix as a depth guy this year but I am willing to bet that he ends up on the outside looking in again especially if the Eagles draft a C/G higher in the draft. If McGlynn continues to be an “inactive player” this year I will consider him a bust because it is not unreasonable that a 4th round pick should be a possible starter or at least a depth guy who dresses & is active.
There’s simply never the potential for rational conversation with you. It’s like you’re completely detached from reality.
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“It was a mid-round pick, and we obviously hadn’t needed him to this point with MJG and Cole, who both have 2 more years experience.”
It isn’t uncommon at all to see younger players (especially in their 2nd year) leapfrog over slightly older ones on the depth chart especially a guy like MJG.
I am willing to bet that McGlynn is buried on the depth chart again this year and there is a chance he might be ‘inactive’ for a number of weeks this season. Maybe that doesn’t make him a ‘bust’ in your view but I would consider a 4th round pick who can’t even get on to the field as an active player as a bust.
When I bring up numbers like the amount of carries for the backup RB, you dismiss them and still assert that Bell will carry the ball 150+ times which is contrary to what the numbers say.
When I mention ‘rebuilding’ and define how I would measure it and compare how the Eagles match up, you completely ignore it and talk in generic platitudes without a single point to back up your assertions.
Even here, you extrapolate a further point that I never brought up (higher draft picks should automatically be higher on a depth chart).
Yeah I guess even though I do eventually define what I am talking about and how I would potentially measure or examine it, I am “completely detached from reality.”
I’m not saying one way or the other, but why does everyone assume Weaver will touch the ball MORE than he did last year, when last year was the most he (or any) fullback has touched the ball since Mike Alstott?
I’m thinking Shady gets 225 carries, Bell gets 80, and Weaver gets around 50.
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2010/3/16/1376268/schefter-philadelphia-eagles-sign
So, how’s that whole reality thing working out for you?
I can literally talk til I’m blue in the face, and you just won’t fucking get it, so I’m going to stop addressing you when you respond to stuff I say.
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I don’t care about Bell either. He doesn’t do anything well. We just know we can hand the ball to him about 150 times and we’ll gain… some yards.
That is where I got the 150 times from. It was eagleswin who argued in that same thread where you mentioned the 225/80/50 split about Bell getting 10 touches a game (160 season)
We disagreed just about how gets more carries this season – Weaver or Bell. That will be a much more interesting race.
Lawlor on C on 3/1 update
Maurkice Pouncey is the only Center prospect to really get excited about. I still don’t have a good feel for whether the Eagles will be interested in him. He didn’t measure in at 6’5, 320 like we hoped. He magically shrunk down to 6’4, 304. That is still good size for a C. It just doesn’t make him special. I’ve always been of the belief that we’d pass on taking a C early in the draft. The Eagles seem to prefer taking a guy in the mid to late rounds to develop. We’ve never had an incumbent injured, though. Jamaal Jackson’s agent said that he’s doing okay in rehab, but won’t be on the field til mid-August. That would give him 3 or so weeks to get ready for the season. Or we could put him on the PUP list and make do with Cole/McGlynn/? for the first 6 weeks. Color me confused, highly confused. I’ve been asking around to see if anyone has thoughts on Mike McGlynn or AQ Shipley, but all I’m getting is crickets chirping. Doesn’t everybody obsess on the backup Centers? What is wrong with these people?
It has been ready hard to find much news at all on C recently and this is the best I have seen the past 2 weeks.
Cole has proven himself?
He was an adequate starter last year at RG and struggled at C. He has value on the line as a depth guy but it would be pretty easy to upgrade from him if he is the starter at C or RG.
Jamaal Jackson, Nick Cole, and Winston Justice.
all sat on the bench for at least 2 years before they started. So give McGlynn some time before you label him a bust. I also think that Eagles plan on him being the starting C or RG by the start of next season. Even the best RGs dont get paid as much as Stacy Andrews. That being said I still don’t understand how so many teams passed up on Carl Nicks
Right Now
Our back up LT is Herremans
Our back up LG is Nick Cole
Our back up RT is Stacy Andrews
Our back up RG is Nick Cole
Our back up C is either McGlynn or Shipley
I believe Jackson will be placed on IR.
Look here's what I have to say...
We dont have to worry about:
LT, LG, RT.
We do however have to worry about:
C, and RG.
Now N. Cole is actually a good OG, I’d take him at RG any day really. But as a center he’s found wanting really, his showing wasnt really that great during to 2 games last season…
So I think the quickest way to fix out OL is to Find a legit Center who can step in immediately and move Cole to RG… MJG is a joke really.
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WILL NICK COLE BE AT CENTER IF JACKSON CAN’T GO?
I’ve got Nick and [Mike] McGlynn and [Dallas] Reynolds. I’ll let them all compete and see what they can do.
There you go, straight from the horse’s mouth.
http://bleacherreport.com/tb/a3qGs toward the bottom.
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HOW IS JAMAAL JACKSON’S REHAB GOING?
For the season, I think he’ll be OK. For the offseason, I’m not expecting much. Or training camp. I think we’ll get him in the beginning of the year, the beginning of the season. Don’t think he’ll be in any preseason games.
So it sounds like Cole will be the starter and the Eagles are generally counting in Jackson to get back from rehab/PUP list after the first 6 weeks of the season. That seems me to be a little optimistic regarding Jackson though.
I wouldn't say the Eagles were extremely active this offseason
They made a few cuts, none which were too suprising" but only signed/traded for 1 or 2 guys that will “compete” for starting positions in Tapp and Jackson. Besides them they signed a 4th and 5th WR, and a backup runnning back.
I’d say every move they’ve made is a depth move, not an impact move (Tapp and Jackson have large upsides, but are by no means a sure-fire solution). Unless they sign an impact move, they aren’t going to be much different than they were last year. High powered offense that can be shut down against a good DLine, and an offense that can generate turnovers, but has very little bendability or shut down abilitys.
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OL Looks Good....
Like last year, this year, on paper….the OL looks good. Peters, Herremans, Cole, Andrews, Justice. I like the looks of that line. The question mark IS Andrews. In an interview Stacey Andrews said that he owed Andy a debt of gratitude for keeping the faith in him and he wants to pay him back. Hopefully that will happen, and if it does, the starting OL should do well. I also like the backups…..but there’s one who wasn’t mentioned that I’d like to see the Eagles get rid of…..King Dunlap. If he hasn’t been released yet, send him packing….lol. When Peters went down and was replaced by Dunlap, he got eaten alive. As you know, the next game they moved Herremans over to Peters spot, and he did ok…..a lot better than Dunlap….lol. Even in 2008 Dunlap looked like a bust. I’d like to see Andy pick up another veteran or maybe an OL in the draft. The Eagles have some good young players they have confidence in. Winston Justice worked hard and deserves the OT spot, hopefully one of the younger players will shine too. Jean-Gilles did a decent job and can play OG/OT. Nick Cole is very valuable….he probably can play all the position on the OL, and if Jackson has a miraculous recovery. The OL could be set.
Remember
Justice got eaten alive his first start as well, these things take time, you need to get used to the guy your playing next to, you need to mold, its hard to call him a bust already but I can def see where your coming from. Everyone improves at their own rate, I’d say give him another year, or try and trade him for another underacheiving OLineMan who might just need a change of scenery or new coaching or a dif scheme.
What would be better?
Getting Otogwe or a conditional pick next year that might turn into a 1st/2nd round pick even McNabb starts/play well.
Personally I go with Otogwe even if there are some potential injury-related questions. Rams offensive line was horrid last year and I really wonder if McNabb would make it through 16 G as the starter with the Rams next year.
Otogwe probably
I feel like a lot of rookies never end up panning out, getting some proven talent is usually the safest bet. Plus I want guy who can contribute this season. REAL impact players
I know this isn't a spelling bee but its Atogwe and...
I think the eagles would be more interested in a conditional pick. They just signed Marlin Jackson, I understand he is hurt and not ready to play right now but I don’t think they would be interested in another veteran FS. Also from what Andy Reid has said in some off-season talks, it sounds like he thinks Demps might have what it takes and has supposedly worked hard in this off season with and improved attitude. Also I would have preferred Atogwe over Marlin Jackson as i think his injury questions are greater than Atogwe’s.
Excellent post...
Our current interior line scares me. Nick Cole and Andrews/MJG have been average at best. Stacy Andrews was a good RT before the injury but who knows how well he will play this year at RG after a torn ACL (which should be fully healed by the start of the season). I am quite positive Andy will take at least one of the following linemen in the upcoming draft – Iupati, Pouncey, Walton, Ducasse(played G and T), and Jerry. If we do get either one of them, I will feel much better about our line.
If we traded McNabb we wouldn’t have OL problems, you see Kevin Kolb has managed to obtain real life Madden cards. He has 19 gold pocket protector Cards, so you see blocking won’t be an issue all year if we trade McNabb. McNabb once killed a puppy with a wormburner. I’m tired of watching him smile, and enjoy the game we are watching for entertainment. I…….. AM SO GLAD YOU MADE AN OLINE THREAD BECAUSE I WAS TIRED OF MCKOLB THREADS.
My real views, I want Iupati or Pouncey. Nick Cole won’t be the disaster he was with a full camp and more preparation but I strongly feel like Pouncey would be a massive upgrade. Center is the most undervalued position in football, and I don’t get it. The guy holds together the whole line and if we could get a 10 year stud there I think we have to go get him. If we decide Cole is the guy, then we need a guard, at the very least for insurance.
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