2 of 4 moves that could shake up the NFL offseason
by NorthPhillyKid on Mar 22, 2010 2:45 AM EDT
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PrintAcoording to Yahoo Sports we could Shake Up The NFL. I wouldnt be surprised if we had some sort of negotiation settled at the end of the draft. Source and poll after the jump. I added Sam Bradford because our speculation could involve wanting something more if not proven instead of bradford.
Sam Bradford goes No. 1 to the Rams
Why it could happen: The Rams need a quarterback, and Bradford is the best one in this draft. Taking Ndamukong Suh or Gerald McCoy would be a safer choice for the Rams, because both defensive tackles are considered can’t-miss. But after passing on Matt Ryan(notes), Matthew Stafford(notes) and Mark Sanchez(notes) in recent drafts, the Rams cannot afford to pass on Bradford unless they are convinced he will not be that good.
The Eagles trade one of their Quaterbacks
Why it could happen: Having Vick as a No. 3 quarterback is a luxury, not a need. I still do not believe Donovan McNabb(notes), Kevin Kolb(notes), and Michael Vick(notes) all will be with the Eagles by Week 1. Moving Vick is the most likely scenario. Somebody will offer something for Vick that the Eagles have to think hard about, either before the draft, during the draft, or during July and August when injuries start to occur.
Kolb is the Eagles’ quarterback of the future and is probably the least likely to be moved. Next season could be McNabb’s last with the Eagles. But only an overwhelming offer would make the Eagles trade McNabb before he gets a final chance to win a Super Bowl. Vick is the quarterback the Eagles should trade.
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im gonna actually sleep now lol
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I don't think Vick will be an Eagle next year
but as much as I’d like us to trade McNabb and finally complete the youth movement, I’m starting to think it won’t happen. I don’t think anyone is going to offer anything for either Kolb or McNabb that our FO finds acceptable. I think we roll into 2010 with both QBs, we extend Kolb, and let McNabb walk after the season
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
Yeah, I agree with you. I want it to happen, and I believe the Eagles want to do it.
But they wont give him away either. That said, the market has dried up big time. Your value is only worth what people are gonna pay you for something. Right now Donovan is worth a 1rst, but we may have to settle for a second. I would take it! Better than getting nothing next year, plus Kolb getts experience. Its a win win situation.
I hope Andy doesn’t do what he did with Lito and squander all value. We could have gotten a second for Lito, or a least a third. Andy held Lito toooo long, and we got a 5th!!!
In Kolb we trust
what do they say?
better to let a player go a year too early than a year too late
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
Been saying this for ages ...
I think we roll into 2010 with both QBs, we extend Kolb, and let McNabb walk after the season
Someone could surprise us, but I really think this has been the plan since last year and it would take a ‘wow’ offer to get us to deviate from it.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
If McNabb performs extremely well, we could re-sign McNabb and franchise Kolb.
I think we’re drafting a QB this year, too.
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Yeah
If Mcnabb plays really well. lolol. He’s 34 years old, do u think hes going to get magically better?
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I’d say he played pretty damn well in 2008, and for the most part in 2009. He doesn’t need to get better. If he plays as well as he has, he’s a damn fine option at QB.
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2008 was a tale of 2 halves
on the big scale, he was mediocre until the Arizona Thanksgiving game, and then played well.
On a smaller scale he was mediocre until halftime of the Arizona playoff game, and then played well.
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
Franchise Kolb?
Are you kidding? Mcnabb would demand at least $10 million and a franchise tag would be worth roughly $15 million. No way they pay that. Unless Mcnabb throws for 5000 yards, 40 td and wins the superbowl, he won’t be an Eagle past next season (and hopefully sooner)
Yeah, I think even with a Super Bowl win
he’s not 100 percent guaranteed to be back. The Eagles FO seems like the kind of group where they might bite the bullet on a guy whose contract is up even at the height of his popularity. But I agree a Super Bowl win would be the most likely scenario for McNabb to be re-signed, but it would probably cost us Kolb.
There have been quarterbacks who have played well until 38 or 40, so it’s not completely out of the realm of possibility. But basically I think this is McNabb’s last go-round, and if they can somehow give Kolb an extension without botching the timing or the team chemistry, they’ll do that. It definitely behooves them to do the Kolb deal before he lights it the %*&^ on up.
But as we’ve said a million times, QB is the least of this team’s problems. Maybe literally. Jesus could come back in the form of Joe Montana and quarterback this team — if they give up 27 points to the Cowboys in the second quarter, or they allow an 8-minute, 70-yard touchdown drive in the fourth quarter, they’ll be unceremoniously bounced from the postseason again.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
Another one of these huh! Guess i'll entertain it
..as of right now, I would trade Dmac! I know I can’t see the future, but as of this moment, I don’t see how the Birds have helped their defense significantly. Maybe “significant” is the wrong word (i dont think so though), maybe u’d rather say helped by adding true impact players. Tapp had “ok” stats, but he is an unknown DE in the league for the most part. Nothing to brag about at all. Yet Howie Roseman thinks
“Darryl is an up-and-coming player in this league, in my opinion,” Roseman said.Reid and Heckert said the same thing about Clemons when we traded for him! I do think Tapp should be better, but how much better. Just “rotational” better or “impact” better. And our safety spot is still up in the air AGAIN. Relying on an injured and injury {somewhat}-prone DB in Jackson. Who is really a CB i might add. This is suppose to be our star-starting safety….
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
point is
if we do not really help our defense, then it might be then why bring Dmac back. He needs the best chance to win as it could be his last hoorah. It’s still early as the draft hasn’t come up yet. But if we don’t get some impact help then there is no reason to keep Dmac while he has trade value. Why let him walk for nothing. This is a business and the Birds know that better than most organizations. We don’t want the same outing as last year. Bradley might help a lil bit, but what if his knee acts up. What if Jackson (DB) doesn’t pan out and his knee (s) act up.Too many what ifs and unsure factors. I’d trade Dmac becuz of this. I’d want to give him the best chance to win IMO
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
Tapp is a 3 down DE
He plays the run really well and had more QB Hit’s then Trent Cole, Jared Allen, Dwight Freeney, and thats just to name a few. He is 25 and is entering his prime if not now, then very soon. On the Seahawks page, they had a 1800+ comment fanshot expressing how mad they are at their FO for letting Tapp go because he was going to be a monster. Some of them predicted 10+ sacks along side Cole. Tapp is a very big upgrade for us.
by Team Serbia on Mar 22, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Idk we'll have to wait and see
Clemons at the time was a big upgrade for us too…I remember some Raiders fans were upset that they traded him away. But we saw how that panned out in the end. But like I said, I think he will be better than Clemons I just don’t know how much better. He is an upgrade becuz he is a 3 down DE, but I have to wait and see if he is a “BIG” upgrade. That has yet to be seen. I’ve learned my lesson relying on certain players. I still think we need a stud DE. For now, it’s a waiting game!!!
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
But for future reference..
I do in fact like the Tapp trade!!
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
On and I just found this linked from BGN
But ideally, Tapp isn’t an every-down player. The Eagles would be wise to keep him fresh and allow him to best use his speed and motor by not forcing him to play too many snaps. If used in rotation with other Philadelphia ends, including Juqua Parker, who isn’t as dynamic and doesn’t have as much pass-rushing upside as Tapp, the combination can be effective.
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/12146/eagles-add-speed-with-tapp-signing
Some conflicting reports. I thought he was a 3 down DE. Guess not. Mixed reviews. Questions questions.This is why I play the waiting game. To see how a player will pan out. This is also why I think we still need to draft a Stud DE (if any).
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
what that's saying is that he has the capability of a 3 down DE...
but we shouldnt use him like that considering JP is a good DE too, basically he’s saying we need to use a rotation of JP and Tapp to keep them both fresh.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
I don’t get the people that say “Trade McNabb now so we get something for him while we can!”
We weren’t a 4 win team last year. We went to the playoffs, and barring major injury, we should do it again this year. THIS YEAR, who gives us a better chance of winning? Kolb or McNabb? McNabb does. Let’s say we make the playoffs next year. Who would you rather have QBing the team? McNabb doesn’t have a Super Bowl, but neither does Kolb exactly.
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Thank you, yomjo
That’s exactly it. If we had a playoff game today I would take McNabb over almost any QB that’s still in the league. Brady, Manning, Brees, Roethlisberger, the other Manning, and Favre (if you count him as still being in the league) are the only ones I’d even consider over McNabb. And Eli, Favre, and Brees are all maybes.
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Haha...
Brees is a maybe? The man just played lights out and won a Superbowl! Replace him with Rivers and that would be more understandable.
yeah he just let ALL of his credibility go right there
same with Favre..dude Favre out played mcnabb by leaps and bounds this year it wasnt even funny. and Eli definitely had a better season
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Nope, I stand by it
Brees has one superbowl win, and an amazing one at that. But Brady has multiple, Roeth has multiple, and Manning is the best QB in the game, possibly all time. Those are the only ones I would take over McNabb, who has the best playoff history out of any Eagles QB.
And Joe_D: What the fuck are you talking about with “credibility”? Its an opinion. Facts can be credible or incredible (although that term is never used that way, “lacking credibility” I suppose would be the more common phrase), opinions are just that, opinions. That’’s like saying (if I were religious) that believing in God makes my opinion that evolution has occurred lacks credibility.
In my opinion I’d take McNabb any day. I know you’d rather be locked in a jail cell as Plaxico Burress’ boy-toy than have McNabb on the roster next year, but its ridiculous to say that my opinion has no merit simply because you have a different opinion.
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Brees > Mcnabb
That is fact, not opinion.
Really?
And what non-objective empirical data do you have to back this up? Winning percentage might be a good one, and Brees’ is 56% while McNabb’s is 66%. Or maybe QB rating, where Brees has the edge with 91.9 compared to McNabb’s 86.5.
I’m not going to argue with this much, because overall I agree that Brees is a much better QB, but I was talking about striclty playoffs, where McNabb has more experience, although he lacks a Superbowl ring. I’d still take him. But I don’t think you can factually say that one player is better than another unless nearly every stat backs it up, which isn’t the case here.
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Winning is a team effort
Look at any QB stat, passing yards, touchdowns, completion rate, and Brees is miles better than Mcnabb. In a pass happy system like this, Mcnabb has never thrown for 4000 yards, while Brees has thrown 5000 and 4000 a bunch of times. Come on, Mcnabb was good but not in the class of Brees, Manning, Brady, etc.
Alright man, chill out
Look, I agreed that Brees is better, but I don’t think you can say that Brees being better is a “fact”. A fact can be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, and you can’t do that in comparing two QBs. I think Brees is better, but you can’t say its a fact.
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I think it's a fact if you can back it up with facts...
In this case, you can support the argument than Drew Brees is a better QB than Mcnabb with facts.
Drew Brees has better than numbers than Mcnabb in almost every category. Higher QB rating(92 – 86.5), Higher comp. pct. (65 – 59), and higher passing average(7.4 – 6.9).
As for playoff performance, Brees is better in than aspect as well. Here is an excerpt from Bleacher Report about Drew Brees who they ranked No.3 best playoff QB in the NFL.
Playoff Record: (4-2)
Conference Championship games: Two
Super Bowls: One
Brees’s playoff career is still in it’s infancy, but there is almost no denying his production in the postseason. Brees’s rating in six playoff games is a mind blowing 103.7. To go along with that is an incredibly impressive mark of 13 touchdowns and only two interceptions.
During the Saints Super Bowl run, Brees did not throw a single interception and had a rating over 100 in all three games.
Here is the one about Mcnabb who they ranked fittingly at No.5.
Playoff Record: (9-7)
Conference Championship Games: Five
Super Bowls: One
Donovan McNabb is one of the most consistent playoff performers in recent memory. He is 6-1 in the first game, his first loss coming this past season to Dallas.
McNabb’s career playoff rating is an even 80. However, he has posted eight games with a rating of 90 or higher.
One of McNabb’s most outstanding accomplishments is his series of four consecutive NFC Championship games.
In 16 playoff starts he has modest numbers of 24 TD’s and 17 INT’s.
So you see, the facts clearly backup the fact that Drew Brees is the better quarterback.
Also, every stat is a team effort. How do you expect a QB to have a high completion percentage with WRs who can’t catch, a good QB rating with guys who can’t block, or high TDs with no weapons, lots of yards with a defense that can’t get off the field? I still agree that Brees is better, but I’m just sayin…
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McNabb IN HIS PRIME
is maybe better, I’ll give you that. But at this point he no longer is the playmaker he once was. Brees at this point is the best pocket passer in the league.
McNabb was once the best playmaker at the position, and as you say had a pretty shitty cast at WR. Back than it couldn’t be called FACT. But now it is a fact Brees>McNabb right now.
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by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Mar 22, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
DeSean10, bud..
i totally agree with you, that brees < mcnabb is opinion.. and i’d rather have mcnabb as well, even if he’s not as “godly” as brees is.
The Eagles WILL redeem themselves in the '10-'11 season, with a win at SuperBowl 45 in Dallas!
Rather have Mcnabb?
So then this isn’t an issue of talent anymore, its an issue of sentiment. And if that’s the case, then this argument is moot.
by Team Serbia on Mar 23, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I just
don’t really like Brees too much. I’m in the middle of the McNabb/Kolb argument. I could go for McNabb OR Kolb; I want to see McNabb lead us to a SuperBowl again and win it all, but i want the era of young players (Kolb, Jackson, Avant, Celek, Maclin, McCoy, etc etc etc) to begin.
The Eagles WILL redeem themselves in the '10-'11 season, with a win at SuperBowl 45 in Dallas!
it's not an argument...
Team Serbia, listen to me for ONE minute, it’s not an argument, it’s an OPINION. Opinion’s cannot be moot and they cannot be factually proven or disproven. That’s all that I’m trying to say. They are personal beliefs and preferences, and if I personally feel that McNabb is better (which I don’t) then you cannot factually prove me wrong, because it is an OPINION.
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All empirical evidence (stats) proves otherwise
And that is what a fact is. Just like I can say for a fact that Andre Johnson is better than Freddie Mitchell. That is not opinion, and anyone who believes otherwise is wrong.
Mcnabb is obviously close to Brees then Mitchell is to Johnson, but Brees is still ahead. The stats prove this.
STILL.
Even in the case of Mitchell/Johnson, opinion cannot be proven/disproven. If i said that Obama is doing a bad job as a president, that’s opinion. However, if i said that he is white, that is wrong and can be proven he is black. The difference DS10 is trying to make is NOT THAT MCNABB IS BETTER. He’s trying to prove that just because one, one thousand, or one million people think Brees is better doesn’t make him better. If every single stat category said so, then yes. But I guarantee there’s one category McNabb is better in, which ruptures your Brees factually better than McNabb. It’s all opinion.
The Eagles WILL redeem themselves in the '10-'11 season, with a win at SuperBowl 45 in Dallas!
I’d take McNabb over Favre… mostly because Favre is a prima dona asshole and I wouldn’t want him anywhere near my team, if I was running the team.
But why do you think McNabb is close to level of Drew Brees?
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
McNabb's Chamionship game and Super Bowl career: 129/225, 57.3 completion percentage, 1426 yards, 6.3 YPA, 9 touchdowns, 9 interceptions, 72.9 QB rating, 1-5
The argument to get something for McNabb now, at least for me, comes from a couple places. First, if McNabb is not the QB of the future (i.e. the next couple of years), you might as well get what you can and move on. Otherwise, you’re in the exact same position next year, not knowing what you have with Kolb, and being slightly poorer in terms of draft picks. Secondly, if the teams changes of winning a Super Bowl are good with McNabb, and bad to non-existent with Kolb, then Kolb probably shouldn’t be the QB of the future. Kolb is not a rookie. He knows the system, and if you’re starting him, he’ll have training camp and the preseason to get reps as the #1 starter. If you don’t think he can produce at the same level as McNabb, then it’s probably not a good idea to go with him down the road.
exactly
thew young guys (DeSean10) dont seem to get this concept.
Another thing is, I really don’t think there is much drop off in talent. By week 4 kolb should be even better than mcnabb.
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That's not my argument at all
I understand wanting to get something in return for McNabb, but I want him as our QB last year because he is a proven commodity. Something that you don’t seem to understand is that most of the QBs in this league aren’t as good as McNabb. There are very few winners out there. For every Manning, Brees and Roethlisberger there are Delhomme, Cutler, Pennington, JP Losman, Jason Campbell, Mark Brunell, Alex Smith, Tavaris Jackson, Sage Rosenfels, Derek Anderson.. the list goes on and on. How about “future franchise QBs” that haven’t worked out? Rivers has been pretty damned good, but you don’t think the Chargers wish they had Brees sometimes? What about Brady Quinn, Matt Leinart, the aforementioned Jason Campbell, Billy Volek, Byron Leftwich… all these “franchise” QBs that in all likelihood will be holding clipboards their entire careers. I’ll take an almost guaranteed 10 wins and playoff appearance in a tough conference over a possible All-Star/possible Kellen Clemens any day. I’d rather give McNabb his last chance and let Kolb take over in 2011. I’d rather have McNabb (a sure commodity) than a first rounder, who could be a total bust (Bernard Williams, ’94 anybody?).
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*i want him as our QB for one last year (first line)
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I guess for me, if Kolb is going to be the guy in 2011 anyway, than anything other than a Super Bowl win makes 2010 a complete waste of a year if McNabb is back.
FWIW, McNabb was 12th in the league in passer rating, tied for 13th in TDs and 20th in completion percentage last year. I’ll grant that the comp % is a little dodgy, since a couple of the QBs ahead really only took high percentage throws (see: Kyle Orton), but still. That’s good production, but it’s not elite. Kolb wouldn’t have to be the best QB in the league to make it worth the switch.
look joe, i want kolb to start too...but...
By week 4 kolb should be even better than mcnabb.
…where do you get that from?
"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins
Kolb being better than Dmac by week 4
is a ridiculous/hilarious statement.
by Young Eagle on Mar 22, 2010 6:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Bingo
First, if McNabb is not the QB of the future (i.e. the next couple of years), you might as well get what you can and move on.
Simple as that. I don’t hate Dmac. He’s done many many great things for this team. He’s done more with less, then any other QB in the league currently! But its all about the nature of the business.
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Vick trade...
maybe after the whitehurst trade we can get creative….swap 2’s w/ st. louis and 5th in ’11…we would have a lot of options w/ pick 33…
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Mar 22, 2010 4:08 PM EDT reply actions
You don’t get rid of someone because they’re not going to be around forever.
One year under McNabb has value in and of itself.
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Yes you do
He’s not your future, so unless he’s an elite qb still (he’s not) why w ould u kepe him around?
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By that reasoning
We should have traded Westy before his concussions so we could have gotten value for him. Maybe you agree with that, but I don’t.
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Not Really
In 2006 and 2007, Westbrook was elite. He basically was the offense, and was among the most dangerous players in the NFL. In 2008, he had a bunch of nagging injuries, but still came up with a bunch of huge plays down the stretch and in the playoffs. In the off season, he had surgery that both he and the team hoped would clear up his problems. It didn’t, and then he got the concussions on top of it. He also wasn’t on the last year of his contract, and didn’t have a player Andy Reid absolutely loved in college waiting in the wings.
We probably could have gotten a 4th last offseason
Because he was coming off the knee injury, but in 2007 (as zfg mentioned, not ‘08)
he was an elite RB, a team would have taken a chance with a 3rd or 4th for him. So why didn’t we do that instead of cutting him a year later and taking the cap hit? Same with Dawkins, why just let him walk when we could have gotten a pick for him the previous year, he was still playing well. You don’t just trade players a year before their contract is up, not legends. At least the Eagles haven’t historically, they release them, but that way they can choose their team. You don’t think we could have gotten a little value for Westy this year? Like a 7th rounder in next year’s draft? McNabb will have a bigger impact on this team next year than any 2nd rounder (or 1st if that was what we got) would.
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Seeing as there’s… what, two elite QBs in the NFL? We should totally trade QBs until the one we have is the best in the NFL. I mean, I can’t see why the Patriots are still hanging onto Tom Brady’s nuts. He won them 3 Super Bowls but everybody knows he doesn’t have anything left.
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Brees, Peyton Manning, Eli Manning, John Elway, etc. etc. etc. all had worse playoff W-L records before winning a Super Bowl (and some still have worse playoff records). You and others just don’t like McNabb because he’s NOT Tom Brady, and guess what? Only Tom Brady is Tom Brady, so why don’t you just become a Patriots fan?
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Mcnabb isn't even top 10
Right now, he’s a good QB. Lots of people feel Kolb is more suited for this offense and he has shown flashes of being a very good QB. Enough to ensure that he will be great? No, but you take the risk, especially when the drop off doesn’t look to be significant at all.
How old are you anyway, Joe_D?
You said “these young people” a few posts back, yet you type like a high school sophomore girl (“lolol”, really?) and pick internet fights by calling people out in unrelated comments?
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i'd be willing to guess Joe_D's age is..
somewhere between 25-35.
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What about the extra yards McNabb still gets with his feet?
Kolb might be able to hit a 7 yard pass but what happens when noone is open and he takes a loss because he can’t move?
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by Cowboy KILLER on Mar 22, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Kolb is rather mobile
My "t" and "y" buttons are messed up so don't bitch at me about misspelling, I'm just saying.
by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Mar 22, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
HE"LL THROW IT AWAY LIKE EVERY NORMAL QB DOES!!!
Instead mcnabb holds onto the ball and gets scked
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yeah kolb actually can move.
he will be closer to a mover like Steve Young then McNabb or Vick, but he can get it done movement wise.
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by Talon Talent on Mar 23, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Can you name 9 better?
And if you can, how often did those teams make the playoffs in the last 5 years? Even if McNabb sucked (we all know your opinion on that joe, no need to comment again) and gets us to the playoffs, who gives a damn? I’d rather make the playoffs with Bruce Gradkowski than miss them with Eli Manning.
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I don't think anyone can.
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by Cowboy KILLER on Mar 22, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
If a QB sucks — which I don’t think McNabb does, for the record — then he doesn’t “get his team to the playoffs.” The teams gets there despite minimal or negative contributions from the QB. Tavaris Jackson “took” the Vikings to the playoffs, does that make him an adequate QB?
McNabb was 12th in the league in pass rating, I’d think there’s a reasonable argument you could make for all the guys above him. Again, that’s not bad, but I don’t think it’s irreplaceable .
If what you say is 100% true then,
we still have a QB that is better than atleast 21 other starting QBs in the league vs. a virtually unproven QB. With your logic we should scrap the whole 2008 team since they could not win the NFCCG.
"Keep them both for 2010. 2 >1" Route 36
by Cowboy KILLER on Mar 22, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
The above was to Team Serbia.
"Keep them both for 2010. 2 >1" Route 36
by Cowboy KILLER on Mar 22, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude you're sucha dumbass
BC I think Tom Brady is a good QB I should become a pats fan. That’s great logic.
You can pump out as many stats as you want, but just watch McNabb play on Sunday.
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
honestly I'm much more neutral on this thing than you or most anyone
because I love McNabb but feel both arguements are strong. I am a huge McNabb fan and it wouldn’t hurt me to let him play his twilight ball wearing eagles green. I am too unsure about Kolb as the future QB too make the call, but if he IS than we absolutely need to trade McNabb… so it all rests on Kolb for me.
If they trade Kolb I’m going to be logging on to read your shit, it will be fun
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by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Mar 22, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
i will throw a shit show
but ive already DREAMED of what im going to type when mcnabb is gone im going to scream like a little girl
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
Yeah, cuz if we get to the playoffs and Kolb loses the NFC CG, I’ll be pissed that we didn’t have McNabb, because I think our chances are better with him. I could give a shit less that we “let McNabb go for nothing” when it’s not letting him go for nothing.
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Well, if we keep him next year, don’t win a Super Bowl, then he walks, that is letting him go for nothing. And I, for one, will be pissed.
So we’re not supposed to try for the Super Bowl with him just because there’s a risk he could leave as a free agent?
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Although I don't ever agree with you, yomjoseki..
So we’re not supposed to try for the Super Bowl with him just because there’s a risk he could leave as a free agent?
That’s the first time I’ve seen that argument YET. It brings up a good point. I like Kolb, and yes, he could be the quarterback of the future, but McNabb has brought us to five different championship games.. And although he’s lost four of them, there’s nothing saying he can’t win one this year. Why not get out of McNabb what’s left (NOT TRADING HIM FOR A 2ND ROUNDER).. But to let him start week one. Then, if he does inadequately, we can put Kolb in the reigns and let it see how it pans out.
The Eagles WILL redeem themselves in the '10-'11 season, with a win at SuperBowl 45 in Dallas!
Never having done it
Doesn’t mean he can’t do it. The annals of history are littered with people who did not achieve a feat the first, second, third, fourth, fifth, etc. times. You persevere, learn from your mistakes, and continue on. That sounds like McNabb all the way.
"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins
"All I have in this world is my balls and my word and I don't break them for no one." Scarface
by Talon Talent on Mar 23, 2010 6:32 AM EDT up reply actions
i sure hope so.
i’m sick of all this mcnabb/kolb shit
The Eagles WILL redeem themselves in the '10-'11 season, with a win at SuperBowl 45 in Dallas!
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