Next on the cut list... Kevin Curtis
by JasonB on Mar 18, 2010 5:17 PM EDT
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The Philadelphia Eagles have announced yet another cut and it's WR Kevin Curtis. The only surprise about this one is that it took so long. With his big salary and minimum production the past two years, Curtis always seemed a likely candidate to be gone this offseason.
Curtis was scheduled to make about $5 million next year(that's his cap hit at least), which is a lot for a 30+ WR coming off two injury plagued seasons. PE.com does a good job summing Curtis' Eagles career.
Curtis' career in Philadelphia got off to a promising start, with 77 receptions for 1,110 yards in his first season in Philadelphia in 2007. However, sports hernia and knee injuries have limited Curtis to just 39 receptions the last two seasons.
That was a helluva first year...
Curtis' departure means only 3 of the WRs the Eagles finished last year with are still on the roster. And now for the obligatory Andy farewell...
"Kevin is one of the classiest players I have ever been around," said Eagles head coach Andy Reid. "He's the type of player and person we like to build our team with. We just feel good about the young corps of receivers we have on our team at this point."
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the best cut by far
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
If Football Had A Church , Brian Dawkins Would Be My Preacher. -NPK
Jibta's Daddy - NPK
wish he could have been more productive for all the money he got.
oh well though! i’d think he’ll sign with another team.
The Eagles WILL redeem themselves in the '10-'11 season, with a win at SuperBowl 45 in Dallas!
Wow, tough day for the Eagles vets
Both cuts made sense though and saved the team almost $10 million combined. My guess is the Eagles will probably be looking at a few veteran DEs and WRs now that they have money to burn.
unrelated to kevin curtis, but..
i was reading one of Bye, Dawk :(’s posts. and found it interesting..
Lock This Guy Up Longterm NOW Award – Leonard Weaver
Honorable Mention – Jason Avant
that was on his “2009 Eagies” awards post. i guess the eagles FO listened and gave them contract extenstions ha
The Eagles WILL redeem themselves in the '10-'11 season, with a win at SuperBowl 45 in Dallas!
yes , bye dawk knows i got love but we were all on the same page witnessing the same production ourselves ::P
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
If Football Had A Church , Brian Dawkins Would Be My Preacher. -NPK
Jibta's Daddy - NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Mar 18, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Get off his sack antoniak.
lol, just kiddin
I don't know what it is about your face,
[holds up fist]
but I just wanna deliver one of these right in your suck hole.
lol nice one
The Eagles WILL redeem themselves in the '10-'11 season, with a win at SuperBowl 45 in Dallas!
Also had...
The “Thanks for your many years of excellent service, but you make too much money so we have to cut you” Award – Brian Westbrook
Honorable Mention – Kevin Curtis (minus the “many years of excellent service” part)
Stupid
Westbrook, Andrews, Howard and now Curtis. Added marlin Jackson, tapp, possibly bell. Additions still wont replace the production they cut.
by ryanitus on Mar 18, 2010 5:39 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
What production?
Westbrook, Andrews, & Curtis produced next to nothing last year. Howard had 5 sacks in a situational role.
This was dead weight that the team got rid of.
And the offseason is hardly over.
UGH, you couldn’t let me have this one? Really JB? C’mon man!
"They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds." - Wilt Chamberlain
not really
neither did jackson … he = curtis
make any excuse you want about howard he had 6.5 to tapps 2.5
by FakePhilly33 on Mar 18, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
But Tapp isn’t a direct replacement for Howard. Howard was a situational pass rusher from the DT position. Tapp will be a starting LDE.
My guess is that you’ll see Howard’s true replacement come in the draft.
i understand that
but by production i think he meant total added benefit and i agree with you i am happy about the moves. But like always it seems there are a couple coin flips with regards to ability / health
by FakePhilly33 on Mar 18, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
The thing is you can equate players due to the fact that they play different positions. Ability and health means something different in every position.
"They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds." - Wilt Chamberlain
i thought your point was that they are better off
my point was you cannot make that asessment yet
by FakePhilly33 on Mar 18, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I think I lost myself in making the point.
While, its hard to assess whether the gains outweigh the losses. I think its safe to say that even with those losses we aren’t losing any production. On the other hand, the additions we made this off season will either bring either the level of production we currently have or more. In essence, its a Low Risk-High Reward maneuver. I think that made sense. Pardon me, I’m still recovering from St Patty’s Day.
"They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds." - Wilt Chamberlain
and with regard to bell
put me in the saints offense and i will play well. I am not saying they are that much worse off but you cannot say they are better off yet
by FakePhilly33 on Mar 18, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
All together
They didn’t play 16 games so their production could be matched by having open tryouts from the BGN members.
by sowhatifitisasportste on Mar 18, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn I'd hate to be the guy
who has 6 Eagles jerseys and they’re of:
Westbrook
Curtis
Dawkins
Howard
Reggie Brown
and Shawn Andrews
… that would suck to be that guy.
gosh darnit FML i have them all
jk
Desean Jackson- Im Number 1, the real deal, The 1(0)ne to Watch.
Interview while at Cal.
i have westbrook's..
as dso thousands of other eagles fans. i wonder what other jersey i should buy..
The Eagles WILL redeem themselves in the '10-'11 season, with a win at SuperBowl 45 in Dallas!
I'd hate to be the guy..
who actually had a reggie brown jersey…
"They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds." - Wilt Chamberlain
Haha true
I have a Westbrook jersey, like most others, I’m sure. But I’m still sitting pretty with Jackson, Maclin, and McNabb (maybe not for long).
Also… I have an LJ Smith jersey, but before you rip me, it was because my last name is Smith. Not because I liked LJ.
lol
I’m a Rutgers student. At RU footballs game they used to show LJ Smith on their NFL star montage on the big screen. I was ashamed.
"They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds." - Wilt Chamberlain
did they show mike mcmahon?
"it's like i tell my ex-wife, i never drive faster than i can see, and besides it's all in the reflexes." -Jack Burton, Big trouble in little China
Jibta and Whodie.
That’s $119 down the drain, fellas.
...But if he pulls the rug on his quarterback, Reid must do it knowing that he let McNabb down more than McNabb ever let him down.
Phil Sheridan--Philadelphia Inquirer
Reggie Brown
laugh lol dont feel bad
i have TO and TKO to be ashamed of even though they both looked promising
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
If Football Had A Church , Brian Dawkins Would Be My Preacher. -NPK
Jibta's Daddy - NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Mar 18, 2010 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy shit
I don’t log on for a few days and all of my dreams come true! That is what happens when you let go of your desire, I have heard.
Howard has been a joke, Curtis is a joke, Brown is a joke, and Andrews is gone. I have to say that I am feeling pretty pretty pretty pretty good right now.
The only things I can complain about are: our LBs are all clowns so I don’t agree with the Witherspoon cut but I am over that. Hank Baskett? WTF? Why? Why Why Why? He cannot play. Period. It is very obvious.
Baskett has had a couple of 100 yard games when he was used more
Besides he also was brought in for depth and he is excellent on special teams, excluding the Super Bowl game play, but anyone would have dropped that
eff you we winning anyway
A.I. IS BACKKKKKKK
While we are at it
I want Gocong, Baskett, Gaither, Laws, Mays, Hobbs, Dunlap, Rocca and last but not least Mcnabb gone.
The logic doesn’t make sense with those releases.
"They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds." - Wilt Chamberlain
I don’t think they can play.
Hobbs has been injured and is older. Baskett can’t play. Dunlap’s nickname is “Queen”. Mays isn’t big enough. Gocong was an experiment gone bad. Gaither isn’t physical enough. Laws doesn’t play. Rocca isn’t that bad but we could do better.
Mcnabb is old news. I am tired of his inaccurate passes and erratic behavior. Why would he slam himself against the glass in Dallas? ohh because he is a goofy bonehead. Too bad, because he has a cannon arm.
Wow, you cannot be serious?
Hobbs is in his 20’s hes like 26-27, Baskett is special teams, Dunlap is I have no excuse for him, Mays can jack anyone up, and Gocong should be gone, Gaither is okay, a very good backup and is versatile, Laws will step it up this year, Rocca will have some competition at the punting job with Durant Brooks, and Mcnabb, I do want the Eagles to trade him unless the Eagles think they can get to the Super Bowl with him, which they do.
eff you we winning anyway
A.I. IS BACKKKKKKK
Ellis Hobbs? I haven’t seen anything out of him. I think we can find better. I wouldn’t be upset if he were to stay though. He is a good returner. But he certainly isn’t to be counted on as a difference maker.
Mays looked lost when he played. You cannot be defending that fact. They even picked up Trotter over him. Come on.
What has Baskett ever done on special teams that is so valuable? Please tell me. He sure as hell didn’t look good in the Superbowl. Then, he acts like it was no big deal!!!! I just don’t get it.
Gaither is a good backup. I don’t mind him in that role, but when people start saying he can start is where I scratch my head.
Laws doesn’t play. I don’t know anything about him except he doesn’t play and Dixon does play, and he looks good when he is in there. So, pay Dixon. Dump Laws. I am sure Laws will stay and be like McDougle and waste a roster spot for years.
lol
Hobbs and Baskett can still bring stuff to the table as far as Special Teams goes. Our LB core is extremely thin, I don’t think you can really drop anyone else and just rebuild it out of scrap. Even though they may be poor overall, they provide depth and are good into certain situations (each of those LBs you mentioned). Dunlap and Laws are make or break during camp/preseason in competition with whoever else we pick up between now and then. No need to drop them. McNabb isn’t old news as he is still better than more than half the QBs in the NFL. Yeah i’m tired of his slider…ehh dirtball but get over it, he is still valuable.
I got nothing for Rocca. Kangaroos?
"They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds." - Wilt Chamberlain
Good points. A LB overhaul will be very difficult to pull off. I can’t argue with you.
Hobbs does bring some value as a returner but I don’t think as highly as most people do.
You are right with Laws and Dunlap. They will stay this year and do nothing. They will both be gone next year.
Rocca has really bad games. You cannot have that from a punter. Especially when our defense isn’t able to stop people in big time situations anymore.
baskett JUST got here lol
The Eagles WILL redeem themselves in the '10-'11 season, with a win at SuperBowl 45 in Dallas!
no demps?
"it's like i tell my ex-wife, i never drive faster than i can see, and besides it's all in the reflexes." -Jack Burton, Big trouble in little China
Man, what’s up with Curtis hatred around here? Dude get 1,000 yards first season and then get injured multiple times…and people hate him for that?
Christ, I’m surprise Westbrook isn’t hated for all the games he missed.
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
McNabb's Chamionship game and Super Bowl career: 129/225, 57.3 completion percentage, 1426 yards, 6.3 YPA, 9 touchdowns, 9 interceptions, 72.9 QB rating, 1-5
It's not just that play that determined the outcome of the NFC Championship Game
Throughout the whole game,a team needs to put up effort. Philly needed to get off to a good start, but they did not, in a result they dug themselves in a hole. Arizona’s offense was unstoppable, our Defense was getting burned, and not just one play determines the outcome of a game; even though some people like you may tend to think so, the whole game needs to be played correctly. Besides no one is perfect, I bet you couldn’t have caught that pass
eff you we winning anyway
A.I. IS BACKKKKKKK
I beg to differ! Not only would I have caught the pass, I would have managed to stay up and run 30+ yards for the score!
"They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds." - Wilt Chamberlain
What?
If he would have caught that pass, which is why he on our team, we would have had a chance to win.
I understand the game. I don’t need you to tell me about that game. I watched it.
Bottom line, clutch players make clutch plays. He didn’t. That’s all. Why are you so upset about that? Curtis is a nice player and a good guy. He just shouldn’t be thee guy that you throw to in the final seconds. Because he isn’t a #1.
I'm not upset, but explain more into why you don't like Curtis
eff you we winning anyway
A.I. IS BACKKKKKKK
well.............
its kinda hard 2 catch a ball when u get pulled down coming out of ur break, however it did still hit him in the hands so i guess he shoulda brought it in.
by goldenbird09 on Mar 19, 2010 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions
are we talking about the final play..
right before the stupid miracle play we tried to pull? if i remember correctly, it was curtis set on the far right, and he did about a 12 yd curl and dropped it? cause if so, i swear there was pass interference..
The Eagles WILL redeem themselves in the '10-'11 season, with a win at SuperBowl 45 in Dallas!
yeah man no doubt 100%.............
it definitely coulda been called a PI but you 4 watever fukin bullshit reason the refs dont want 2 make a call like that at the end of games unless its very blatant, either way once again we screwed but the bottom line is it still woulda been caught by a top notch receiver because it still hit his hands.
by goldenbird09 on Mar 20, 2010 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions
THis must mean that Mcnabb is definitely gone
if we’re getting rid of ALL of our old aging players, Mcnabb has to be on the chop block too
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
that is my suspicion as well
but like ZN said, where could he go? That’s my only concern with getting rid of McNabb at this point
by alcatraz0109 on Mar 18, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Outside of QB....
the prediction on this thread seemed to hit
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2010/3/17/1377687/the-bad-contract-dump
Think the cutting might be done now outside of trading away QBs…
Haha, nailed it...
Trevor Laws is overpaid? Hah!
Next two to go – Curtis and Howard.
Abiamiri and Laws will stay for at least one more year.
by Route36 on Mar 17, 2010 3:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I've always
Been a big Kevin Curtis fan. Saw him play his highschool ball. Sad to see him go but the move makes sense.
I hope we use the money we’ve saved in cuts to land a few more free agents/ RFAs
For the Love of the Game
Andy and Joe have got the shears out this week.
by andyreidswaistline on Mar 18, 2010 6:30 PM EDT reply actions
yep I was about to type season, but I decided to change it to seasons because he did stay with us for a couple of years
eff you we winning anyway
A.I. IS BACKKKKKKK
And I jizzed in my pants!
He was one of the better backup in the league. It’s a shame that he was plagued by so many injuries. Happy Trails White Lightning!
Brent Celek > Chuck Norris
Curtis was a bust
It was largely due to injury but even in ’07 Curtis overall numbers were heavily influenced by great production in just three games:
Detroit – 11 rec, 221 yds, 3 TDs (worst rated secondary in the NFL in ’07)
NY Jets – 5 rec, 121 yds, 1 TD (respectable secondary that was average/above average)
Seattle – 6, 111 yds, 1 TD (among the bottom 5 in most pass defense categories)
That adds up to 22 recs, 453 yrds, 5 TDs in 3 games in which Curtis did most of his damage against generally weaker competition. The other 13 games he had 55 recs, 564 yds, 1 TD which averages out to a very pedestrian 4 recs, 44 yds a game. That is a possession WR and not a No. 1 WR. His YAC too was only 4.2 which was only good for 41st among qualified WRs in the NFL.
Jackson is a clearly a difference maker and Curtis was a just a possession WR who was masquerading and getting paid like a No. 1 WR.
I’ve always been a fan of Kevin Curtis. Actually, I first started liking him as a player when he was with the Rams and was on my fantasy team, haha. He’ll catch on somewhere. He’s still a good option as a slot receiver.
I am the people's troll :3™
You can think he can stay healthy though for 16 G though? I kind of wonder if he will have problems passing a physical even.
Yeah? He had some bad breaks here but I don’t see why he couldn’t be effective somewhere else. He just wasn’t going to be paid $3.5M to be a 4th receiver.
I am the people's troll :3™
It will be interesting to see where he latches on and if he gets a guaranteed deal. If he does pass a physical and gets a relatively clean bill of health, he wouldn’t be a bad 4th/5th WR. Frankly I would much rather have a healthy Curtis as the 4th WR than Baskett but this was just a contract move.
I think Baskett actually brings a more useful skill set to the team at this point, though. Curtis is probably still a better receiver, but Baskett can block and play STs, which is really more important for a guy in his position.
That said, if I were the GM of a team that needed a slot guy, I’d give Curtis at least a call.
Has anyone heard the rumors about Gcoing being traded to the Browns for a fourth round pick?
I read it somewhere now I can’t find it again..lol
Pretty sure it's just speculation
Mangenius supposedly liked Gocong and wanted to draft him — now that Heckert is in Cleveland, people are speculating that he could possibly be traded there. I doubt it, but you never know.
Regardless....
I still liked White Lightning. He was injury prone, but I liked the guy. But he did have to go. Oh well. Best of luck to ya Curtis.
They're gonna have to keep McNabb
to mentor this young team. Well, not really but its a thought.
This was expected for sure. We were all just waiting for it to happen. Its been a crazy off season with all these cuts. I think this can only make our team stronger actually. By eliminating all the dead weight and roster spots, we have room for people who are actually going to produce.
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
The Eagles do realize this is an uncapped year right? by my rough count they’ve cut $29M of their salary commitments for 2010 and i don’t think they are done cutting the roster down.
Chase Utley is so good that on one pitch he stole second, third and the shortstop's hat.
I think they know exactly what they are doing
They are cutting bad contracts without cap penalty because of the uncapped season.
i didn’t think a penalty was invovled if it was before a certain date. i think its different cutting a guy now or cutting a guy during camp.
Chase Utley is so good that on one pitch he stole second, third and the shortstop's hat.
Right, if we cut guys now, when there’s no CBA we don’t suffer a cap penalty. However, as soon as a CBA is agreed upon there will be a lot of rules about who you can cut and when and what happens to their salary cap number. These moves aren’t for 2010 so much as they are for 2011. Most of these are bad contracts for the team because they are older players who aren’t effective and will be entering the monster dollar years of their contracts by 2011.
Let the beasting begin.
by TransplantedFan on Mar 19, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
WOAH.
who else knew that if you click on the subject line in a comment it closed the body? :O i just learned this…
The Eagles WILL redeem themselves in the '10-'11 season, with a win at SuperBowl 45 in Dallas!
is it me?
or have we never seen this many cuts in an offseason? seems like what crappy rebuilding teams do. If that is the case and we are infact rebuilding for the future mcnabb should go and let kolb take over… that being said…
has the FO been too greedy about their asking prices for our qb’s? we are running out of options for teams that have a need at the position with every day that goes by,,, I guess there’s always tampa… lol
I agree but I think alot is being done as well to get ready for the possible strike next season. As you can also see from these cuts it’s making it more and more clearer we will be drafting O-Line and D-Line this draft (boring) maybe we will get the LB pick we all want.
Last year was the only fun draft we had in years.
I wouldn't call it rebuilding
The Eagles FO is very smart and they’re using a unique situation with no salary cap to dump the bad contracts for old, ineffective players that every franchise inevitably ends up with over time. In a normal year we’d probably take a huge cap hit for all these cuts, this year the Eagles can trim the fat off the team without any negative repercussions.
by BarbarosaNo on Mar 19, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
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