The Bad Contract Dump

by Smallbugger on Mar 17, 2010 2:21 PM EDT

I need some help, but I think we've seen exactly what the FO wants to do. For every bad contract they are trying to restructure, get what they can, or just flat release players.

Usually the team would take a cap hit on the guaranteed money paid to a player (what ever is left in a prorated amount left is), but they can do it this off season with no penalty.

Stacy Andrews - restructured

Shawn Andrews - released

Brian Westbrook - released (sad to see him go, but bad contract for his ability now)

Reggie Brown - trade for probably the most we could get for him

Chris Clemons - traded

Will Witherspoon - released

It seems the eagles are taking the situation at hand to set-up the team's future and clear-up cap space not for this season, but to be prepared to handle a new CBA and cap in 2011.

Is there any other bad contracts on our books? We can probably assume those guys are being shopped. The random timing of Shawn's release tells me the team tried to shop him, but found no takers...

An interesting look at the 2009 salaries... I couldn't find an interactive 2010 Eagles salary yet, but we can probably assume guys are at or around the same amounts...

http://content.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/salaries/teamdetail.aspx?year=2009&team=24&order=CapValue+desc

So who is left that we might try to dump now?
Trevor Laws
Kevin Curtis
Both seem overpaid for their value to the team.

The QB situation following this logic - Because all 3 end at the end of this season, the Eagles are not concerned with having to dump a bad contract with them. This theory will be proven true if our QB(s) are traded for 2011 picks or we try to compile 2011 picks in anticipation of a rookie salary scale to allow us even better cap manage in the future.

So who else has a contract going beyond 2010 we might want to dump?

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Edit: Thanks Whodie126 for the link

http://www.eaglescap.com/

So guys that stand out

Kevin Curtis

4,500,000

Darren Howard

4,506,000

Michael Vick

5,250,000

ok Laws is cheap enough, guess we put big incentives in his contract he will never meet

Trevor Laws

832,500

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I like Curtis when he’s healthy, but he’s buried behind D-Jack and Mac, with Avant having a pretty defined role.

Still…there’s no salary cap. If White Lightning’s healthy, I’m fine with them keeping him around.

by BrianS on Mar 17, 2010 2:26 PM EDT reply actions

He'll be cut

I don’t know the exact numbers, but I’m pretty sure his salary is wayyy too much for the role he plays or would play.

by Smitty2K3 on Mar 17, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions

$5+ million next year

I think he’s gone too.

by Team Serbia on Mar 17, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah

Eagles cap has his base salary at $3.4 mil with a $1 mil roster bonus along with other bonuses.

So they have his cap number at $4.8.

Either way… it’s too much.

by Smitty2K3 on Mar 17, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions

Yep

and $5.7 million next year. Its been fun, and I definitely remember the game where he has almost 300 yards receiving and 2/3 touchdowns against the Lions. I remember screaming White Lightning the whole game haha. But yea, no doubt he gets cut.

by Team Serbia on Mar 17, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah

that was a fun game to watch.

I especially loved it because I had him on my fantasy team. haha.

by Smitty2K3 on Mar 17, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions

…. along with Westbrooks 110 yards rushing, 111 yards receiving, and 3 touchdowns.

Let’s just say I won that week.

by Smitty2K3 on Mar 17, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions

I agree, love white chocolate.

by EAGLES805 on Mar 17, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions

come to think of it, I really hate Trevor Laws.

http://www.libertyballers.com/

by Remis on Mar 17, 2010 2:38 PM EDT reply actions

never liked him.. He looks like a fat geico caveman.

thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro

"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb

by wild_eagle on Mar 17, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions

Haha!!

Football…So easy, a caveman can do it….But Trevor Laws still cant.

I don't know what it is about your face,
[holds up fist]
but I just wanna deliver one of these right in your suck hole.

by DickMuffin on Mar 17, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

hahah

thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro

"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb

by wild_eagle on Mar 17, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions

Good call

by jdcvr6 on Mar 17, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions

Unrelated but...

The Saints are bringing in Fargas for a look, pretty good sign that they don’t plan to match Bell’s offer from us. Not that I expected them too, but its good to see the Saints affirming that.

I Am Better Than Jack Who Some Fool Thinks Is Better Than Asante (IABTJWSFTIBTA)

by DeSean10 on Mar 17, 2010 2:43 PM EDT reply actions

http://www.eaglescap.com/

They call me The Professor.

by Whodie126 on Mar 17, 2010 2:48 PM EDT reply actions

Yikes

They better change their header image quick on their main page.

They have pictures of Shawn Andrews, Samuel, McNabb, and Dawkins.

Two out of the four are gone and McNabb looks like he might be on the way out too.

by Smitty2K3 on Mar 17, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions

I’m more interested in the contract numbers and breakdown and he keeps that up to date and it’s extremely well done.

They call me The Professor.

by Whodie126 on Mar 17, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions

Whoaaaa die. Easy man. I was just sayin'...

I’ve been visiting that website for awhile. I agree… Whoever does it does a great job.

I just noticed the header again though… thought it was kinda ironic that he created that image and now a couple years later 1/2 the guys are gone. Kinda ironic I thought.

by Smitty2K3 on Mar 17, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions

why did you just tell him to die? lol

http://www.libertyballers.com/

by Remis on Mar 17, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions

ohh you were makin fun of his name. ok i get it now.

http://www.libertyballers.com/

by Remis on Mar 17, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions

I wasn’t being a dick I was just pointing out to those who might read your comment and think the site maybe not up to date when it really is. Unfortunately text can be taken many different ways.

They call me The Professor.

by Whodie126 on Mar 17, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions

stop yelling

lol. I decided to have you yell what you wrote in my head.

"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins

"All I have in this world is my balls and my word and I don't break them for no one." Scarface

by Talon Talent on Mar 17, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions

You thought he was yelling?

I was wondering why he was whispering.

No but seriously, it’s all good. Just wanted to make sure you understood I wasn’t bashing on the site. I have, as Shawn Andrews would say, “Respekt” for that site.

by Smitty2K3 on Mar 18, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions

Thank you!

good info

by Smallbugger on Mar 17, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions

The next question

is who needs to be paid?

Desean Jackson
Kevin Kolb
Stewart Bradley

Who else?

by Smitty2K3 on Mar 17, 2010 2:48 PM EDT reply actions

Are they getting rid of all these “bad contract” because they want to save money?

Or because they want to set themselves up well for a new cap in the future?

Or because they want to make a major move or two this offseason?

Or because they want to set themselves up to pay their own?

Or all of the above?

by Smitty2K3 on Mar 17, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions

I don’t think they’re doing anything out of the ordinary.

I am the people's troll :3™

by yomjoseki on Mar 17, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions

Ehh

I don’t think Reggie Brown gets traded if there was a cap (no one would want his contract) and I don’t think they release Witherspoon if there was a cap.

But I agree that they’re not doing anything weird. They’re all smart moves… I’m just wondering if they’re doing it for a reason? Like to trade McNabb and extend Kolb or if they’re doing it for other reasons.

by Smitty2K3 on Mar 17, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions

If this were a capped year, the only difference regarding the Reggie Brown trade would’ve been that the Eagles took a cap hit from releasing him. It wouldn’t have affected the Bucs decision at all.

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by yomjoseki on Mar 17, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions

Add

Bunkley to that list.

by Smitty2K3 on Mar 17, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions

and wild_eagle...

thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro

"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb

by wild_eagle on Mar 17, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions

smitty

if u are saying cut bunkley you are an idiot .. i hope i am reading this wrong

by jack is better than asante on Mar 17, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions

its pay bunkley

thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro

"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb

by wild_eagle on Mar 17, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions

Thank you for clearing that up.

If I was, in fact, saying we needed to cut Bunkley I would be an idiot. There’s no question.

by Smitty2K3 on Mar 18, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions

i think DJax is still in his rookie contract

The Eagles WILL redeem themselves in the '10-'11 season, with a win at SuperBowl 45 in Dallas!

by antoniak on Mar 18, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions

I think every NFL player

in his 2nd year in the league is on his rookie contract.

But regardless he’s gonna wanna be paid soon. Most likely after this season.

by Smitty2K3 on Mar 18, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Curtis is a goner.

Laws isn’t going anywhere though. He signed a 4 year deal for less than $3M, and besides, he’s been in the league just 2 years. At least give him the standard 3-year judgment period before we start calling for his head.

by JimmyK on Mar 17, 2010 3:13 PM EDT reply actions

I think so to but then your receiver corps is headed by 5 year guys Jason Avant and Hank Baskett. I think Curtis at least makes it to camp.

They call me The Professor.

by Whodie126 on Mar 17, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions

With how much Curtis is making, I don’t see how when I think Jackson and Maclin are clearly 1A and 1B. Plus, they just paid Avant and they’re going to want their money’s worth.

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by yomjoseki on Mar 17, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions

I agree it’s a lot to pay the man but I think he makes it to camp if he doesn’t get traded. I don’t see him being released we already paid him his 1 mil roster bonus so he’s making 3.4 for the year.

Is that really too much money to take into camp? If they can get a decent trade I say roll with it but I wouldn’t cut him before camp.

We have 2 receivers not named Curtis with significant NFL experience Avant/Baskett 4 years and then Jackson 2 years and Maclin 1 year although I think we all agree those are “the guys”.

Other then that we have Dobson Collins, Chad Hall, Jordan Norward.

They call me The Professor.

by Whodie126 on Mar 17, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions

Experience doesn’t matter a whole lot in this instance. Our top 3 are set. Is 4th and 5th receiver experience a huge deal? Is it worth $3.4 million? Doubt it.

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by yomjoseki on Mar 17, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions