Sheldon on the trading block?
by The Legend on Mar 12, 2010 3:07 PM EST
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I just finished watching ESPN First Take and on the Cover 2 segment Dan Pompei said that Sheldon Brown could be had for a 2nd or 3rd round pick since he is still not happy about Asante making more money. Although I am a little sceptical about the report because he said the Eagles put him on the block since we signed Marlin Jackson although I thought they made it clear that he will be playing Free Safety. If this is true what do you think Sheldon is worth a 2nd or 3rd?
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I would be insulted if he is traded for a 3rd
by sowhatifitisasportste on Mar 12, 2010 3:12 PM EST reply actions
I would be insulted if he was let go for 2nd. Here’s why:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/180265-is-sheldon-brown-underrated-a-call-for-new-cornerback-statistics
Sheldon is tremendously undervalued by most fans.
I beg to differ
And here’s why:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqmdI3tVuMA
Everyone remembers him for that play. Last year he was the only guy in the secondary that knew how to tackle
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
BLEGGGGHHHH.........
This would be a completely BAD thing to do regardless of wat pick he would draw. Sheldon was the Veteran that kept the ship afloat throughout Bradley goin down to the hanson fiasco, hes a lot more valuable then people realize and hes the true leader of our defense which has been on life support emotionally ever since the departure of Dawk, if Sheldon goes then our D from last year will look good compared 2 the new one we field, and i dont wanna hear people say Asante this and Asante that, all he does is get picks, besides that hes actually not that good at all.
by goldenbird09 on Mar 12, 2010 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
He is worth more to us then any other team he knows our system and the fans love him. Another team he’s just DB
by sowhatifitisasportste on Mar 12, 2010 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
I caught the tale end of this report on TV....
I tried to verify it on-line and couldn’t.
I like Sheldon, but for a 2nd? Its worth thinking about
Yeah i don't know about the idea of him being on the block
but if a team is desperate for some CB help….2nd rounder doesn’t sound too bad if it’s in the earlier half of the second round. Who knows, maybe we could trade him for a second and then draft a quality DB with that pick to replace him.
"Now Sav Rocca played for the Magpies in Australia. I don't know if it's a bird or a pie or what it is." Ike Reese
The Eagles aren’t going to trade a good player for less than what they’re worth because the player is unhappy with their contract. Ignore this Pompei guy, whoever he is.
I know that and it seemed like Sheldon was happier at the end of the season.
Also I forgot to say if this is true I wouldn’t be surprised to see us take 2 corners in the draft like we did in 02’ or even if he stays but that could be because there are a couple that I really want.
how old were troy vincent and bobby taylor when we did that?
by alcatraz0109 on Mar 12, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
ah so the ages aren’t all that different from Sheldon and Asante now.
I still don’t think there’s a great chance we’ll go CB crazy this draft, though.
by alcatraz0109 on Mar 12, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
i disagree
i think it is a position that will be adressed but i dont think its our biggest need at this point.
HB to compliment McCoy
DE to compliment Cole
FS? depending on Jackson’s recovery
LB
I think all four of these are more pressing, considering we have 2 starters and ellis hobbs (depending on the injury) at corner.
Agreeed
DB is not a priority this year FS , OLB, and DE. we get 3 young starters for those 3 positions we’re good for a few years I think DB will be addressed with the 2011 draft.
by sowhatifitisasportste on Mar 12, 2010 7:11 PM EST up reply actions
for what it's worth (not to be an ass)
but FS is considered DB also
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
I think CB is more important then 3 of those 4 because it is a passing league now whether people want to admit it or not and we don’t know yet how Hobbs is going to be after his neck injury and how much longer he is going to be here and if Jackson doesn’t work out we can either move Sheldon to FS or have Demps or Macho start.
If we have a solid LDE to balance out the monster we have as cole, then opposing qb’s wouldn’t even have a chance to test our db’s =)
by notfromphilly on Mar 12, 2010 7:35 PM EST up reply actions
FS and LDE both apply to the pass game
i’m not all for moving sheldon to FS yet just because of how good of a corner he is.
i don’t consider demps or macho an answer at FS either. I consider them both experiments that shouldn’t be re-tested.
i agree that cb is something that needs to be addressed, but with the talent we have there it isnt as pressing as the other positions
I know FS and LDE both apply to the pass game
And if you look down a couple posts I say LDE is our biggest need.
As for FS I believe Marlin Jackson is going to workout but if he gets hurt I am comfortable with Demps or Macho(if they even have Macho practice at safety in TC) if we don’t draft a rookie because Demps was hurt at times last year and Macho was a rookie changing positions. Also Dick Jauron is thought of as the best DB coach in the league.
Not to mention
how many of us were really impressed at all with Hobbs on defense? He might be a good dime corner, or a reasonable nickel, but I don’t see the kid developing to anything more than that.
Hanson’s decline after his suspension should be cause for concern too. We basically have two quality depth guys, and two aging starters. We really need to get some young talent in here that has potential to start in a year or two
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
I think we will be fine with Nick Cole since he will have a full training camp under his belt practicing it again.
If we have a solid LDE to balance out the monster we have as cole, then opposing qb’s wouldn’t even have a chance to test our db’s =)
I think LDE is our biggest need
I agree with you twice in a row on this thread
some people (I think Tommy Lawlor included, if I remember right) were thinking that Cole should compete with Jackson for the job in last years training camp. That didn’t happen b/c of our RG issues, but I agree completely: I’m comfortable with Nick Cole at center, especially with the whole offseason to practice.
He’s a squat, big body, that really gives him good leverage in the middle of the line
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
approaching their 3rd contracts….
by sowhatifitisasportste on Mar 12, 2010 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
i loved lito when he was here
The Eagles WILL redeem themselves in the '10-'11 season, with a win at SuperBowl 45 in Dallas!
We all did
until he basically shut himself down because he felt like being a whiny bitch
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
He's not worth a 2nd rounder
I love Sheldon, I think he was our best corner last year (until the last few games of the season, post hamstring injury). He arguably had the best season of his career…
But the problem is he turns 31 in a week. A 31 year old corner is worse than a 33 year old quarterback. I don’t see any team giving up a 2nd round pick for him.
Totally Agree............
But some of these guys above us think a offer of a 2nd for Sheldon is a slap in the face LOL, however I think it would be highway robbery if we could get a 2 for Sheldon. That being said i still would not want 2 do it, if he goes then our Defense has been completely overhauled, i dont like getting attached 2 players i like 2 root more for the team as a whole instead of individuals but i would at least like 2 see one of our best players from this decade at least finish with us.
by goldenbird09 on Mar 12, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
agreed.
although from what it looks like, brian westbrook may end his career in eagles green (not by his choosing).
The Eagles WILL redeem themselves in the '10-'11 season, with a win at SuperBowl 45 in Dallas!
YEAH THAT STILL WOULD SUCK THO.............
I really wish Westy can end his career on his terms, it really is actually quite sad 2 me at least how fast his tank went 2 empty, if u woulda told me b4 the season started that it would be Westys last i would hav had a hard time beleiving it, heres 2 hoping he passes all his health tests and catches on with another team.
by goldenbird09 on Mar 12, 2010 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
yeah,
good luck to westy. sucks i never got to see him play in person. not like it would have mattered, but eh. living in tennessee sucks when you’re a philly fan. atleast they’re playing the titans in nashville this year!
The Eagles WILL redeem themselves in the '10-'11 season, with a win at SuperBowl 45 in Dallas!
I do, actually. I think it’s our biggest need.
I would say somebody to compliment Cole is more of a need at this point and our CBs took a hit last year due to injuries and suspension but I think it is 2nd or 3rd.
Bye, Dawk :(
I too need to understand just why you think CB is our biggest need. We’ll obviously need to add a CB for depth sometime in the draft but “Biggest Need”? LDE, S, LB, C/OL help….. CB doesn’t crack top 3. Help me out, explain.
We need a defensive end
We NEED to get more pressure with just four, need need need. It’s a passing league and we need to get after those passers
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
agreed
how would you feel about giving up a first for Ray Edwards?
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
I'd give up Kolb for him.
...But if he pulls the rug on his quarterback, Reid must do it knowing that he let McNabb down more than McNabb ever let him down.
Phil Sheridan--Philadelphia Inquirer
I think de opposite of cole is very very important, and then a solid starter for c (i’m sorry but if i have to see a repeat end of ‘09-’10 season with cole at c i’ll be disappointed), then s/lb/cb are fairly equal for me. just my opinion…
by notfromphilly on Mar 12, 2010 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
Cole will be a good center
not even just serviceable, he’ll be good
He was thrown in at the end of the season, but with minicamps and training camp…he and whichever QB will get on the same page and we’ll be fine.
Winston Justice was atrocious when thrown against the Giants, but with an offseason of work, he became a solid starter…hard to judge guys that get thrown into an awkward position with little practice.
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
Sheldon's one of the best in the League.. If INT's werent a part of the game then
Sheldon would be THE BEST period.. He’s a fucking monster, worth every bit of a 2nd and maybe to a desperate team Sheldon+3rd(or 4th) could net us a first.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
that's an exaggeration
he’s great but at times last year he looked slow.
There are several corners who are just flat better (Revis for one)
My "t" and "y" buttons are messed up so don't bitch at me about misspelling, I'm just saying.
by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Mar 13, 2010 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
He was injured late in the year, pulling a hammy and not letting it rest does that to you..
Revis is 1, I can think of anyone else who was better. Sheldon locked down and had 7 INTs.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
Asamogah
They don’t even throw his way. And, as much as I fuckin hate to say this, Newman has really come into his own. I would need to see more game film before I could make a final decision on the best corners, but Revis and Asasmogah are definetely 1 and 2.
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by Talon Talent on Mar 15, 2010 6:27 AM EDT up reply actions
i would take a second , not a third
i love sheldon but hanson has shown on many levels he can start in this league …
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I wanna see him in camp pre season first…
by notfromphilly on Mar 12, 2010 7:01 PM EST up reply actions
who ?
hanson
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
If Football Had A Church , Brian Dawkins Would Be My Preacher. -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Mar 12, 2010 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, maybe I was being too harsh, but I didn’t like what I saw. He’s gotten better, but I still see room for improvement, and I hope he’s become even more comfortable in our system to play a more solid game.
by notfromphilly on Mar 12, 2010 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
im so comfortable with him starting ...
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
If Football Had A Church , Brian Dawkins Would Be My Preacher. -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Mar 12, 2010 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
yes if we have the opportunity to get a second for sheldon
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
If Football Had A Church , Brian Dawkins Would Be My Preacher. -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Mar 13, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
No he hasnt...
He’s shown some promise but after he got suspended he could never return to form.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
agreed
he wasn’t the same player when he came back
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
he wasnt really all that great.. I think he'd need a year or two to be a low end starter really
he’s to slow.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
no hanson is not all that great thats why we payed him chump change
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
If Football Had A Church , Brian Dawkins Would Be My Preacher. -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Mar 13, 2010 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
I get it, Im just saying he's to slow, I really
dont know if he’s gonna be that good, He’s not good enough right now to make me comfortable having him step in for Sheldon if we were to trade him.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
i am thinking of his overall and not the downplay after the month absence
but you have to attribute that to just being out of the loop , not in the swing of the things so to speak
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
If Football Had A Church , Brian Dawkins Would Be My Preacher. -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Mar 13, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
hanson is no starter
he should be our dime back at best
My "t" and "y" buttons are messed up so don't bitch at me about misspelling, I'm just saying.
by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Mar 13, 2010 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
also , off yet kinda on topic
does anyone smell something arguably regrettable about to happen … ie a bad trade or a contract request … i dont feel like im going to see good news every time i come back to the site
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
If Football Had A Church , Brian Dawkins Would Be My Preacher. -NPK
Hahaha
I kinda have that feeling in the back of my head too. Like I’ll get a text from PE or something about a horrible trade/acquisition/something and be severely depressed/angry. But if something like that were to happen I’m sure there would be another deal that goes down slightly countering it.
by notfromphilly on Mar 12, 2010 7:38 PM EST up reply actions
wouldnt be surprised..
they were at rutgers pro day looking at mcCourty..
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Mar 12, 2010 7:39 PM EST reply actions
really ?
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
If Football Had A Church , Brian Dawkins Would Be My Preacher. -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Mar 12, 2010 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
yah...
i forget if it was espn or nfl network, but they were reporting about rutgers pro day. they specifically stated the eagles were there looking at mcCourty and how he’s a possible 1st or early 2nd rounder. also how he had a good combine workout.
I hope they don’t take him in the first and he’s there in the second. he’s basically the 3rd best CB coming out. I want Wilson in the 1st, but looks like he’ll be gone. I expect them to do something similiar to the year they drafted lito/brown.
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Mar 12, 2010 8:12 PM EST up reply actions
I saw Westy play once down here against the fins. I wanna say it was maybe 06- 07. All I know is he had one of the best games i have ever seen a running back play. Screen passes, circle routes, sweeps, man….. NO one could touch that guy…he was awsome.
I saw him 2 years ago in DC
we were down the whole game and looked terrible. Then in the 3rd Q, Westy became a monster and single handedly pulled that game out for us…it was AWESOME!!!!
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
how did we get on westbrook ? lol
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
If Football Had A Church , Brian Dawkins Would Be My Preacher. -NPK
Sheldon for a second
would be fair. He is a good coverage cornerback. He still makes some nice picks. But he is older and he does get burnt from time to time. he would add an instant improvement to a struggling secondary and he probably has 3 good years left him. I think that should be worth a second to anyone looking to acquire him.
That being said, i’d rather him because the CB’s behind him would require to much safety help to be even 2/3 as effective. Hanson is a nickel corner. Nothing more. he has never been good when he has had to play the outside spot. Hobbs is a question mark. he has had some success in the outside spot in NE, but he is still a relative unknown when it comes to this defense. Marlin Jackson (if we choose to use him here, should we trade Sheldon) is another unknown. Can’t tell shit about a player if he is never on the field. Macho, doesn’t have the seasoning or the speed to be an effective corner, hence why we unsuccessfully tried him at FS. Hopefully we keep Sheldon, but if we got a 2nd for him, I think that would be enough to quell my feelings on him leaving.
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