Eagles sign Marlin Jackson after all
by JasonB on Mar 10, 2010 2:45 PM EST
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Despite holding a press conference at the Eagles complex saying that he was leaving to visit the Jets, free agent CB Marlin Jackson ended up signing a two a year deal with the Eagles.
I suppose it's telling that the Eagles website refers to Jackson as a CB/S hybrid. It would certainly seem that they think he'll be competing for a safety job next season. To be fair though, Jackson played safety for several games one year because of injuries to Bob Sanders and other. He has primarily been a corner for Indy.
We've been over the positives and negatives with Jackson already. When healthy, he's a solid corner who has good size and plays physical. Problem is, he hasn't been healthy for the better part of two years. He's coming off his second season ending knee injury. He addressed his injury at a press conference earlier.
"I'm at four months in my ACL rehab," Jackson said. "I'm sprinting, running, back-pedaling, breaking, things like that so I'm ahead of schedule. I've been blessed so far with my rehab, it's gone very, very smooth. Like I said before, I'm ahead of schedule. I would be capable of doing what is needed to as a football player by mid-May, June. By training camp, wherever I am, I'll be ready to go full go."
Obviously we wish the guy best of luck, but I won't hold my breath for Jackson to be a healthy and impactful player next year. I'm fine with the Eagles taking a shot on Jackson, I just hope that they don't let it prevent them from drafting a future starter at the safety position. Jackson is an interesting gamble, but he doesn't cross safety off the list of needs.
Oh and like Michael Vick, Jackson was voted his teams' recipient of the Ed Block Courage award. So much "courage" on the team now!
[Update by JasonB, 03/10/10 3:09 PM EST ] Ross Tucker of Sports Illustrated has reported that Jackson told him he will play free safety.
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I'm not sure what they are doing here.
Is this going to be another Jack IKEA -Guano type experiment? He’ll only be out of ACL surgery for 9 months during August camp and he has to learn the Eagles system as much as McDermott has to learn his strengths and weaknesses so he HAS to be in camp. ESPECIALLY if he is a two position player.
But FULL ACL recoveries have been taking 18 months from what I have observed. And we have seen way too many of the haven’t we? I can’t imagine him being ready for mini-camps unless he recovers faster than anyone with an ACL tear that I can remember. So what are they planning on doing, put him on injured reserve this year?
Man, I’d LOVE to see the details of this contract.
we aint getting morgan
i can hope though but it aint happening
by HawaiiEaglesFanatic on Mar 10, 2010 7:14 PM EST up reply actions
yay???
im not a big fan of these cornerback saftey hybrids.
I have no problem with hybrids
As long as they are effective where we play them. Some guys are good enough to do more than one thing well, and this guy at one time was first round talent.
Now, as we saw with Babin recently, first round talent doesn’t always mean first round production. I’m taking the wait and see approach, but I’m certainly not against hybrids.
Actually I was glad to see he’s slated to play safety. He has been a cover two corner, which would be quite an adjustment to our system. From what I can see from his physical ability his best fit in our system would be FS.
I don't think so
A Tampa-2 corner is basically a safety anyway. Keep everything in front of you, run up and make solid tackles to prevent YAC. If he can do that while slowing down TEs even a little, he should be okay.
by Tracer Bullet on Mar 10, 2010 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
Here is hoping
he is healthy for the regular season and he can
move a little bit more
then he can now
Let's get it Birds.
From a Colts fan
Jackson is a hell of a CB. His problem was the ACL tears. But apparently after they heal they are stronger than before the tear. You guys got a great player. He’s a hard worker. I hate to see him go, but I’m glad he went to the NFC.
Our heads may be bloody, but they are unbowed. We will be back next year better than ever!
Thanks!
How did he do playing free safety, because I think that is the Eagles plan with him?
Proudly supporting a Flyers team with "no honor".
Not sure about him at FS
he didn’t have great speed before the ACL tears. Even the Colts shifted him inside in the nickel package to cover for his deep speed and take advantage of his excellent run support.
Is SS open or is the current one a solid cover guy?
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Mar 10, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
Quintin Mikell is our SS
and despite people saying he dropped off a bit this year, he was ranked our best pass coverage guy last season (as per ProFootballFocus), so I don’t think we’ll be making room anywhere there.
Yeah.
And the only reason he sucked so bad was because he was making up for Sean Jones lack of production.
I don't know what it is about your face,
[holds up fist]
but I just wanna deliver one of these right in your suck hole.
when he was at Safety it was in more of a SS role
though really there’s no difference between the two spots most of the time, when they run the base D, the Tampa-2.
He can probably handle a deep half and he can definitely play the run. Not sure about him manning up or playing centerfield though.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Mar 10, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
I was hoping Seattle would have made a move for him
Give me an offensive line or give me death!
by Generzal Zod on Mar 10, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks for the heads up
One question though: how are his tackling abilities?
by chrisbeomsuh on Mar 10, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
Touche
I’d say that’s about 99% of the league
by chrisbeomsuh on Mar 10, 2010 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
Marlin
is a great tackler and HARD hitter. He can blow up a RB like nobodies business.
Our heads may be bloody, but they are unbowed. We will be back next year better than ever!
Thanks for the info
We could really use a sure tackler in our defense.
by chrisbeomsuh on Mar 10, 2010 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
after watching his press conference I like him and I think he will bring a great attitude to the team a positive one that we need and I think he will be a good fit
He seems like an intelligent guy
And I like him as a football player too.
I Am Better Than Jack Who Some Fool Thinks Is Better Than Asante (IABTJWSFTIBTA)
Can't say i'm not surprised
I didn’t think the Eagles would take the chance/risk. But if they were pleased with his physical, then by all means bring him in. I don’t think it crosses off safety as a need, but if anything he can be good depth for CB and S.
Puts us with 2 CB/FS hybrid and a lot of upside
We have a 3 man race for FS now? Demps, Harris, Jackson…
Demps – having been a disappointment could he come back to be what we expected last season
Harris – like him or not, he started as a rookie for a reason. Could he make the leap in ability we expect from Demps last season?
Jackson – if he comes back strong I think he’s be the front runner for FS, but even if he’s not all there… he would be a versatile CB for us as well.
My Best case scenario… Jackson proves a versicle starting FS capable of manning-up against wideouts when needed, Harris proves to be a physical CB capable of playing safety when needed. With Mikell at SS being able to mix-up coverages like the Steelers do with Troy would be great for confusing passers on what coverage we’re showing and allow Asante and Brown to ball hawk in zone (more safely)
+1
but i still hope we use a pick on a FS in the draft. maybe not in the first 2 rounds, but i certainly still think a quality FS prospect would go a long way to improving the defense.
but as i said, i agree with you in that we have a couple guys competing and all of them should be able to contribute somehow. hopefully one of them fills the FS position perfectly ::fingers crossed::
answer to this
3rd round. Myron Rolle, FSU
"Why do you step onto the field...? I don't believe in pressure. I don't believe in what may be said on the outside. Why do I step out onto the field? To Prove That I Am The Best!"
-Donovan McNabb
I had a feeling it would be two years
he has two years to prove himself and then he can get the big contract, so he should be motivated. This is a really good move, a solid draft is a must if we want to to win the East though.
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by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Mar 10, 2010 3:05 PM EST reply actions
I love
this move. Despite what people may say about how this is similar to Stacy Andrews, I don’t think it is. Stacy came in on crutches. Jackson was actually able to walk in and probably show them a whole range of motion. Not only that he’s young.
I think this is a great move.
For the Love of the Game
Colts fans are sad
not because he got away, none of us expected the Colts to pay 3mil to tender him coming off torn ACLs in back to back years, but because he was a great contributor and part of one of the greatest Colts moments in recent history
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNH-En9TqZY
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
Sigh....
Shake…you’re making me cry
Our heads may be bloody, but they are unbowed. We will be back next year better than ever!
He'd be a fantastic nickelback
less sure about him at safety. The whole Colts D was all screwed up in the 06 regular season. Can’t really blame Marlin for it. It was a disaster at the same time as he was starting at safety, but there was a lot else wrong going on at the same time.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
Well the update indicates that he will play FS
So lets definitely hope it pans out.
Was this supposed to be a sleepover at the NovaCare complex? It looks like he’s carrying a blanket and luggage in that picture.
If my mother put on a helmet and shoulder pads and a uniform that wasn't the same as the one I was wearing, I'd run over her if she was in my way. And I love my mother. - Bo Jackson
…that would explain the lack of signings
by philiafan14364 on Mar 10, 2010 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
Should be a very versatile player back there. Interesting player could pay off if he stays healthy after his acl injuries.
by ryanitus on Mar 10, 2010 3:32 PM EST via mobile reply actions
If we were going to sing an ACL risk
Why not Kampman? I know, he’s older, but still.
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
he got overpaid, marlin didn't
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by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Mar 10, 2010 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
Positional value? Defensive end > Safety
I’m happy anyway Marlin Jackson was one of my favorite players in college and I hope this works out
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
Tell y'all what..
you give us back MJax, and we’ll give you back Baskett. Deal?
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
I hope he doesn't let that door hit
him in the ass. Although, I’d rather see him with the Pats or Titans, tbh.
/in anger phase of SB loss (lol)
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Mar 10, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
Ugh...Hank Baskett
Kind of ironic with a name like Baskett and the guy couldn’t catch a cold. He’s so used to holding Kendra’s footballs he can’t catch the regulation size footballs.
Our heads may be bloody, but they are unbowed. We will be back next year better than ever!
Did he even play on offense for you guys? Because whenever I watched you guys I never noticed him. I don’t want him back here but if there are no WRs who can play STs that come cheap we might as well I guess.
5 catches
for 34 yards….oh yeah and he cost us a Super Bowl.
Our heads may be bloody, but they are unbowed. We will be back next year better than ever!
I think Kendra’s are bigger than regulation footballs, so he really shouldn’t have an issue.
I am the people's troll :3™
Beat me to it
Let the beasting begin.
by TransplantedFan on Mar 10, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
Thats what you would think
but he had quite a bit of trouble holding on to anything
Our heads may be bloody, but they are unbowed. We will be back next year better than ever!
haha that was my favourite part of the super-bowl
watching that hack ruin another team’s hopes for once, trust me we know how it feels, he dropped a huge pass in our last NFC CG appearance.
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by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Mar 10, 2010 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
Why???….His one great shining moment on special teams in the superbowl and now you guys cut him…Colts FO has some nerve!
by 5 plus 10 equals 6 on Mar 11, 2010 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
I like the move!
Positives:
-He’s young (Only 26 years old)
-He has the pedigree (1st rounder in 2005, top recruit in the country coming out of high school, and All-American (I think) at Michigan)
-He’s versatile (Has played outside CB, Nickel CB, and Safety throughout his time in college and NFL)
-He seems like an all-around good person (I have no evidence to back this up… he just speaks well and speaks highly of Jason Avant haha)
-He was signed at an economical price (I hope… again, no evidence of this yet, but knowing the Eagles, I’m sure they signed him at a bargain price that covers their ass in case he flames out and/or gets injured)
-He comes from a winning organization (Former team = Colts… explains itself)
Negatives:
-Two ACL tears in the last two years (on a positive note… it was two different knees rather than twice on the same knee)
-Hybrid CB/S (this can be seen as a positive or negative… but the fact that he only has played 8 games at Safety is kinda worrisome)
I like this too, this will give us some space to work with the draft. We won’t have to worry about taking a safety in the first round or two and will be able to pick up a DE and LB in the first two rounds. Hopefully in round 3 we can pick up Myron Rolle and let him learn the system and work is way back into football his first 2 years in the NFL.
by eaglesforlife on Mar 10, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
That's what I like
We’re not locked in to what position to draft. We have get-by depth at DE, and S right now … I’d like upgrades at both spots, but if our first rounder was an LB, that’d be okay given this move.
I hope they bring in a shit-ton of defensive talent and let it all sort itself out, personally. But that’s just me.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
Exactly
We have get-by depth at DE, and S right now
Now with Marlin, Macho, and Demps competing at FS I think we have get-by depth.
And at DE with Parker, Clemons, Abiamiri, and co. we have get-by depth at DE.
You could also probably throw CB in there as being ok too.
Because of that, we don’t have to draft on need.
if it helps confort you
his best game as a pro came when playing FS
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by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Mar 10, 2010 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
Calling it right now
Dude doesn’t make it past training camp.
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
McNabb's Chamionship game and Super Bowl career: 129/225, 57.3 completion percentage, 1426 yards, 6.3 YPA, 9 touchdowns, 9 interceptions, 72.9 QB rating, 1-5
i doubt they would sign him to a two year
if they don’t think he could make it past training camp..
You'll be missed, 36.
by Bye, Westbrook :( on Mar 10, 2010 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
Doesn’t mean shit if the contract doesn’t have any guaranteed money. He can be cut like nothing. Practice squad players get multi year deals.
by Route36 on Mar 10, 2010 5:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He will
The guy is a great football player, one of the few guys the Colts actually kept around at corner for more than a couple of years. He’s gonna make the team and contribute.
I Am Better Than Jack Who Some Fool Thinks Is Better Than Asante (IABTJWSFTIBTA)
Dude, he had two back to back ACL surgeries. It’s not a sure thing he will make the team especially if we draft another Safety(which is very likely).
by Route36 on Mar 10, 2010 5:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
As long as this doesn’t prohibit us from not taking a safety high in the draft I’m fine with this move…
by 5 plus 10 equals 6 on Mar 11, 2010 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
No way
Jackson is a great player when healthy. If he doesn’t work out at safety he will still find his place on the team as a cornerback.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."
-Mark Twain
One of your fellow Eagles fan
mentioned wanting Jacob Tammi. So here’s what I got for ya…we trade you Tammi AND Baskett straight up for Marlin back. No strings attached, no nothing. Just a straight up trade
Our heads may be bloody, but they are unbowed. We will be back next year better than ever!
Jennings.
Add Jennings – they would get 3 for the price of one!
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Mar 10, 2010 7:01 PM EST up reply actions
Yes
and Jennings too. You get a TE, WR, and a DB who can all play ST for ONE guy. Come on folks…you can’t go wrong with this one
Our heads may be bloody, but they are unbowed. We will be back next year better than ever!
I heard you were shopping this one guy named Peyton Manning
can he be had for an equally productive player like Victor Abiamiri?
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by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Mar 10, 2010 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah Peyton had terrible season last year
word has it that the Colts are gonna sign Jake Delhomme to replace him in Indy.
/Shudders at that thought
Our heads may be bloody, but they are unbowed. We will be back next year better than ever!
As a Michigan fan
I am happy to see this signing. I hope he can solve our problems at safety
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
Why do I have
this vision of him going to the airport and the cab driver rushing to catch up with him waving a piece of paper, shouting “Hey Mister, you forgot your contract!”?
This couldn't be worse news.
Another Jackson? Aren’t Jamaal and DeSean enough? And look which Jackson, Marlin for crying out loud. He’s like 53 years old and his solo album was an abolute bomb.
Without Tito, Jermaine, Jackie and Michael this guy is nothing. So what do we do? Resurrect Michael as a zombie and call the Defense the Jackson Seven? This make no freaking sense at all. Front Office – What are you THINKING?
by IggleGreen on Mar 10, 2010 6:18 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
wait didn't we already see Michael Jackson as a zombie?
twice actually, once in the thriller video, and another time for the last 15 years of his life.
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by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Mar 10, 2010 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
Shux.
You are right. I should think before I post.
:)
What about this trade......I wish.
I winder if we are now free to try something like this. Vick and Brown to the Rams for Atogwe and a 3rd or 4th? We can then move Macho back to CB and have Marlin compete for a back up spot at 2 positions. Plus we still have Hobbs, Jones, Demps competing as well? I would hate to give up Brown but love to see Atogwe back there!
dude this isn't basketball
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by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Mar 10, 2010 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
Jackson
I think he would be a one or two year fix at the Free Safety spot. We will probably draft somebody that could start in the future, just not right away.
by MidwesternEaglesfan on Mar 10, 2010 7:18 PM EST reply actions
Nate Allen
In the 2nd would be great.
I still think this doesn’t stop us from drafting Earl Thomas if he’s there. It just doesn’t make it as much of a need. We can now draft best available.
Allen/Thomas
Both players are a good choice.
by ryanitus on Mar 10, 2010 8:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Jackson's only 26
So I think he would either be a permanent fix or not a fix at all. I don’t think he will be a temporary fix. If he works short-term, the Eagles will lock him up long-term.
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
His contract
is for up to 6 million including 2 million this year. So to the guy who said he wouldn’t make it past training camp…this should answer your question
Our heads may be bloody, but they are unbowed. We will be back next year better than ever!
That would be great and all…if there was a cap…
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
McNabb's Chamionship game and Super Bowl career: 129/225, 57.3 completion percentage, 1426 yards, 6.3 YPA, 9 touchdowns, 9 interceptions, 72.9 QB rating, 1-5
So the owner
is just gonna give Marlin 2 million to not do anything but run a few reps at camp?
Our heads may be bloody, but they are unbowed. We will be back next year better than ever!
The thing is
Is the 2 mil guaranteed?
I haven’t heard anything about guaranteed money in this deal. The only thing I heard was that the majority of the deal hinges on injuries and playing time. So I doubt he’s guaranteed 2 mil this year, which means he could be cut without losing a bunch of money on him.
Having said that… I don’t agree with the guy who said Marlin won’t make it through training camp. I expect him to be the starter at FS in Week 1.
I do believe the Eagles almost cut Sean Jones last training camp (he took a paycut to make the team). So yes, yes they would.
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
McNabb's Chamionship game and Super Bowl career: 129/225, 57.3 completion percentage, 1426 yards, 6.3 YPA, 9 touchdowns, 9 interceptions, 72.9 QB rating, 1-5
Mixed on this
Likely a guy who can help this team in the 2nd year but he doesn’t have much experience playing FS and isn’t likely going to be ready to start the year.
I almost think they have to. I think he replaced Sean Jones thats all!! Also....
Relying on a ACL injured player..i dont think so. Im sure the Birds learned their lesson last time around. If they don’t draft a Safety, they’re way past foolish.
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
no more macho
and thats all that matters .. i would give this guy 20 million just to not have to see macho play ever again .. but in all seiousness .. i like him .. if hes healthy hes a great add
by jack is better than asante on Mar 11, 2010 12:48 AM EST reply actions
hahaha agreed.
MACHO sucks.
OOOOOOOOOO YEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!
by 5 plus 10 equals 6 on Mar 11, 2010 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
YAH for COURAGE!
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-Theodore Roosevelt
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