I agree that success is measured in championships. I was saying that I think Westy’s point is that you cannot judge the potential for future success based on existing success. He thinks McNabb has the ability to be successful still. Not that he is successful now, but can be.

My point was this: I agree. Just because a QB has won a Super Bowl doesn’t mean he could do it again. I’d choose Marino over Dilfer any day of the theoretical week, regardless of their past Super Bowl success. So yes, Dilfer, by definition, was more successful than Marino, but if the two were contemporaries and you had to pick one to lead your team, who would you choose?

Trade Kolb said that at one point a couple weeks ago.

I bet they would.
Giants, Dallas, Pittsburgh might be perfectly content, but if given a straight up choice, do you think any of those QBs stand a chance compared to Brees and Manning? If Jerry Jones had a shot to get either one today, I bet Romo has to go head-to-head in training camp for his job (which he would of course lose). Roethlisberger and Eli are good, but hardly great. I know a lot of Pittsburgh fans who are happy with Big Ben, but are also plenty aware that much of their success has nothing to do with him. That may have shifted a bit last year after his Super Bowl play, so I’ll give you that one, but only by a hair. Eli is remarkably inconsistent and I’m sure no one would complain too much if he got benched in favor of his older brother or Brees. As for New England, it’s unclear if Brady has the fire anymore… give it a couple years and they might be looking around.

I’ll amend my statement for you. I’ll say New Orleans, Indianapolis, San Diego, Pittsburgh and New England (for now) are perfectly content. New York and Dallas are content, but probably not set in stone if Brees or Peyton were dangled in front of them. Minnesota would take Brees or Manning over Favre if given the choice. So there are 3 teams besides New Orleans and Indianapolis that would not change QBs at all. There are a bevy of teams that are content or have promising young guns that wouldn’t want to change, but would have trouble justifying not signing Brees or Manning if offered.

Besides all that, the point is this: Two teams have quarterbacks as good as the ones that played in the Super Bowl: New Orleans and Indianapolis. At this point in time, no other team has a quarterback that is comparable in terms of quality. That’s simply a fact. Fawning over what Brees or Manning is capable of and wondering why we don’t have that is absurd. 30 teams don’t have that. Let’s lower the bar a bit.

I never said that’s what we needed to do! I stated that another RB will have to step up!! I was just saying that pass blocking and blitz pickup it what I will miss whenever Bwest goes. And hopefully McCoy will learn to pass block..or else….well, u kno!