Rams the favorites to land Vick?
by JasonB on Feb 4, 2010 12:00 PM EST
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We all know that report from earlier this week about the Eagles "definitely" keeping Michael Vick was nonsense. He wants to go start somewhere, and I'm pretty sure a good part of the reason the team signed him in the first place was to get something for him. The word is now that the St Louis Rams are the frontrunners for Vick.
According to the NFL Network's Jason La Canfora, the St. Louis Rams are the best bet. On Wednesday, La Canfora said that the Rams are "definitely" the front-runners to land Vick. Last week, La Canfora said that the other teams in the hunt for Vick include the Bills, Panthers, Raiders and Jaguars.
The question is whether teams wait and see if the Eagles cut Vick or if they try to trade for him. Rumors about Vick to the Rams have mostly stemmed from the fact that GM Bill Devaney was in Atlanta when Vick was there and the two supposedly have a good relationship. There's also a lot of familiarity between the coaches of the two teams(Pat Shurmur & Steve Spagnuolo are both former Eagles assistants) and the thought is that the Rams would trust what the Eagles say about Vick's progress.
Mike Vick has been a good guy in his time here and while I do think there's been an overly fanatical reaction to him by some... Is anyone really going to be sad to see him go?
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that, and a short term insurance policy
in case of injury to the real QBs. I don’t think the Eagles overpaid by any means. If they can get any kind of a pick for him too it’s gravy.
What I'll miss
76 yard TD pass to Maclin with our Wilddog formation…or just knowing that our QBs have Pro Bowl depth…it was more the thought than the actual playtime unfortunately. I think alot of us thought that it was going to produce alot more than it did. I’m not gonna lie, I was really curious to see what happened if both DNabb and Kolb (God forbid) went down with injuries. Would our outcome wouldve been different? sigh we’ll never know
you cant say he wasnt worth the investment. he did a fair amount this year and was the only QB to do anything in the two most important games of the season.
Obviously some of his teammates must like him, otherwise they wouldn’t have voted him for the Ed Block award. And some fans like him too, I suspect.
Just as obviously, he didn’t play enough to become a fan favorite or anything.
Honestly, I would say fan reactions in his defense have been a ton more fanatical than reactions against him.
If my opinion had mattered, he would have gotten 10 years in jail and wouldn’t have been let back into the NFL. However, the way it was done, with the condition that he take on Dungy as a mentor and work with the Humane Society and speak with youth in the Delaware Valley, was the best way to let him back in. Hopefully he’s actually made some amends, put back some of the harm he caused.
Having said that, it made me cringe to see him get the Block Award unanimously and read his overly self-congratulatory acceptance speech. Westy and Sheldon deserved it a ton more.
As to him leaving – best solution for all. He doesn’t want to be a 3rd or maybe second wheel, he doesn’t have the skill set to start for the Eagles. I can accept the idea of his being reformed, but I still don’t like him or want him on a team I like.
Big Vick
Aw man, I still remember the moment when I first saw that the Eagles had signed Vick to their roster late summer. So pumped to see it, I even stopped in the middle of taking an order to watch the coverage. Okay I’ll be honest though, I knew that he wasn’t going to stay in philly, though I really wish he would. Reid and Mcnabb are attached at the hip, and as long as Mcnabb can play (and yes he still very much can) then he will be here in philly. Regardless, VIck had better pull in some defensive player on a trade, but if i had to choose a team to see him play for it would be the Jags or the Bills. I don’t know why, but he just doesnt feel right in a Rams uniform.
Vick’s a helluva player and will no doubt be starting for one of those teams come next season, I wish him stardom again and cant wait to see him taking snaps under center come next fall.
3rd Rd Pick
Why am I the only one who feels he is worthy of a 3rd round pick? Seems like most people feel he is a 5th or 6th round pick or that he might even get cut. Even if he is not a top 10 QB, he is better than many starters in the NFL today. At one point he was the highest paid player in the NFL and the poster boy for just about everything. The pass to Maclin was a thing of beauty and he looked pretty good just about every time he stepped on the field. Especially considering he was coming in for spot duty after two years of rust. And this is coming from a guy who is not a fan of his at all. I cannot stand the guy.
To me, a 3rd round pick from the Rams would be a good deal for the Eagles and it seems to be something they (Rams) would be willing to consider. What am I missing here?
Because
Most people remember in his prime he wasn’t that great of a passer to begin with. Not only that he’s not as fast as he once was nor is he a spring chicken these days. Gms are saying McNabb is only worth a 2nd, what would make you believe Vick is worth a 3rd? I say we’ll be lucky to get a 4th or 5th
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
There was a time
when Vick was considered better than McNabb by some. Or at least he was considered more dangerous. I know that when the Eagles played the Falcons in 2004 he was the only guy I worried about. I was not worried Warrick Dunn would rush for 200 yards. I was worried Vick would make something crazy happen in a game that the Eagles should (and did) win. His passing percentages were not all that great but he was always someone that made something happen. And it is not like I am saying we should get a first round pick for him. I agree that he was never Manning, Brees, or Brady but those would command even more than a first round pick in a trade. Thus, a third does not seem all that far fetched to me. We got a 4th for Lito Sheppard for crying out loud.
As for the McNabb/2nd round comparison, I don’t think we know that either. I think the Eagles could get a first for him if he was willing to extend. So, again, a first for McNabb tells me a 3rd is not that unreasonable for Vick. Then you draft a guy to groom in case Vick does not work out.
Never underestimate the possibility that Al Davis does something unexpected. With Vick’s speed, athleticism and bad boy history, he seems like a perfect Al Davis trade unreasonable crap for him kind of guy.
vick to the raiders
that would be funny… he fits the team image and he’s clearly better than the qbs they have… maybe worth a 3rd rounder to davis
by Elmo the faithful fan on Feb 4, 2010 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
They could use it
There’s so much inconsistency in Oakland, that Vick could only do some good there, although it seems like bad football spreads like a virus on that team with Al as the catalyst. That being said, I can see him in a Raiders uniform before a Rams uniform, even with the Rams as a frontrunner. However, I think the Rams need him more than Oakland – the Rams need just about ANYTHING they can get at this point before they pull the team from St Louis and start over
I'll be a bit sad to see Vick go
If nothing else my excitement in the game jumped a bit every time he took the field. He’s also seemed to do everything we could have realistically hoped for including paying off in the playoffs.
I expect him to be a star on a bad team (marginal playoff team at best), but making a team like Oakland or the Rams watchable.
Give me a 3rd or a 4th
and I’d call “The Vick Experiment” a success.
When we signed him, I always knew this wasn’t a long term thing. I was assuming (hoping) we were just buying a draft pick and a one-year weapon. If we get a decent draft pick out of him, then I’ll be happy.
Having said that… if the best offer is a 5th or later then I’d rather keep him for one more year. Should be interesting, but there’s no question the Rams fit perfectly with this move.
Take the 5th or pay Vick $5mil to stay?
Right now I’d take the 5th. It’s too much to pay a backup. If either McNabb or Kolb goes out the door this offseason I might see it differently.
agreed
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by NorthPhillyKid on Feb 4, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
Vick's accomplishments with the Eagles
Two words: ‘Jack and shit.’
He wasn’t a ‘bad guy’ but he knew he had to be on his best behavior to have any shot to stick this year. One slip up and Goddell would have been all over him.
Don’t wish him ill-will and some nutty people act like he was a Holocaust perpeatrator. He did some really craven and horrible stuff, paid a pretty big price for it, and I wish him the best of luck but somewhere else.
Eagles could use that 4th round pick & $7M dollars he is going to make next year if he is on the roster all year more effectively.
$7 mil? thought it was 5
If it’s 7 he’s definitely gone. No way will Banner pay him that much to be a backup.
I'd like...
… to trade him to the Rams and get Brandon Gibson as part of the deal.
lol
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If Football Had A Church , Brian Dawkins Would Be My Preacher. -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Feb 4, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
most importantly we got what we could out of him on the feild
and he helped our community as well
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If Football Had A Church , Brian Dawkins Would Be My Preacher. -NPK
and we get a mid rounder for him ...
id say thats pretty good for 1 mil dollars
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
If Football Had A Church , Brian Dawkins Would Be My Preacher. -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Feb 4, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
What is he going to do for the Rams
They need a QB to take the pressure off Jackson – so unless Vick is running the wildcat every play he does not scare teams as a passer – after all he I believe has only completed 55% of his passes in a season once.
So a struggling rebuilding team wants a 50% comp running QB!
With the 3rd or whatever pick they potentially offer they could get Tebow – he is younger and will appeal to the fans more!
by G Fan in England on Feb 4, 2010 3:52 PM EST reply actions
That does not
say a lot for Tebow’s chances in the NFL!
Putting the Cutler trade aside most QB trades are for second round picks or later and a lot of those trades do not work out in the first year or at all (Feeley, Culpepper too name two).
Your Front Office does very well in trades so you could still get maximum value for Vick or McNabb, but in my view that also says alot about the state of other teams.
by G Fan in England on Feb 4, 2010 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
Rams Options:
1) Use the number 1 overall pick on Sam Bradford or Jimmy Clausen.
2) Use the number 1 pick on the best player in the draft (and one of the best prospects of the last decade), Ndamukong Suh then draft an unproven rookie in a later round to start.
3) Use the number 1 pick on the best player in the draft, Ndamukong Suh then stick with Marc Bulger.
4) Use the number 1 pick on the best player in the draft, Ndamukong Suh then trade their 4th rounder for a CLEAR upgrade at QB in Michael Vick to help the team rebuild and make your team relevant again… while also selling a boat load of tickets.
I don’t know about you, but if I’m the GM of the Rams I’d go with option #4.
I would go with
a mix of options 2 and 3.
Take Suh and then get a QB at the start of the second or even trade up for one depending on how they drop in the draft.
Use Bulger to mentor the young QB – as a Rams GM I would rather have Bulger teaching the rookie than Vick.
by G Fan in England on Feb 5, 2010 3:37 AM EST up reply actions
Bulger is retired
The leg injury is worse than reported, and his retirement is inevitable. If the Rams take Vick it will be as a stop-gap until the QB they draft can play. It will not be with the 33rd pick in the draft. If they can’t get Vick for low picks, they’ll start Null or Boller until a QB is ready. The Rams don’t want to be the last team to pay an uncapped #1 rookie contract, so they are trying to trade the Suh pick to TB and slide down for Gerald McCoy or Clausen.
Getting Matt shaub was a good trade for the texans
by Tron79 on Feb 4, 2010 7:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You never know
If we could get a 2nd rounder for A.J. Feely anything is possible.
After all he’s the extremely humbled rededicated to his craft, now he likes to practice Michael Vick…… uhhh yeeeeah.
The road to victory!
Hoping
Please accept nothing less than a 3rd round pick, Andy!
I’m keeping my fingers crossed for a 2nd rounder. A 2nd rounder for Vick from the Rams would make the whole media circus our city was involved in worthwhile.
Please, give us a 2nd rounder!
Attention Rams GM & Coaching Staff
Remember that this is the former 2002 #1 OVERALL DRAFT PICK … a UNIQUE talent… guaranteed to increase ticket sales… a dual-threat QB who honed his skills on the prison exercise yard…
Uhh, yeah. Go get ’im, Rams!
The 33rd pick
in the draft for a nearly 30 QB who completes just over 50% of his passes.
If the Rams do it they deserve to at the bottom of the division.
by G Fan in England on Feb 5, 2010 3:39 AM EST up reply actions
This instantly makes the Rams...
…a 2-14, 3-13 team. Look out, Seattle. There’s a new sheriff in town.
...But if he pulls the rug on his quarterback, Reid must do it knowing that he let McNabb down more than McNabb ever let him down.
Phil Sheridan--Philadelphia Inquirer
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