Eagles on Julius Peppers' short list?
by JasonB on Feb 28, 2010 6:27 PM EST
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PrintHere's the latest... Jeff McClain of the Inquirer is reporting that Peppers hopes the Eagles have interest.
According to a league source, the former all-pro defensive end, who will become a free agent Friday, has the "Eagles on his short list of teams."
If I had to guess... The "league source" is either Peppers' agent himself or someone that works for him. The "short list" of teams are ones that have money to spend and the agent hopes will start a bidding war.
I have a feeling that Peppers would be happy to play for any team willing to meet his asking price.
This is the time of year when agents make their money... and stirring up a frenzy over your client is a good way to do that.
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Peppers can play the run
Kearse was a pure pass rusher that couldn’t handle the fact we ask our DEs to engage a block first.
Kearse was good at the begining, not amazing, but better then what we had at the time.
"NO HONOR"
"We will steal the show, jolly Rogers go, we are wolves of the sea."
I don't think there's a comparison
between Kearse (who was always an undersized speed rusher) and Peppers (who is an athletic freak who has the size and all the tools to be great, and only his “motor” is questioned)
Given that Peppers isn’t being brought into to be the defense’s savior, but rather a bookend with Cole; AND given that the Eagles like to rotate DEs anyway, I’m less bothered by the “doesn’t go hard all the time” than I normally would be.
Also I think turning our defense from good to great would have a much bigger effect on the Eagles’ potential success than making a move at quarterback, and these guys whose effort (Moss) or dedication (Dillon) is questioned seem to do just fine when a team is having a shit-ton of success.
This is why I’m salivating over this potential signing when I’m usually against chasing the hot free agent.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
Even with the Eagles rotating their DE's
What if Peppers’ cruise control still kicks in when its his turn on the field? I don’t think its fatigue that causes him to kick it into idle, I think it’s his attitude.
So how do the Eagles get his best effort after they give him several million dollars?
The monster at the end of this blog.
Agree
I think we need to vastly upgrade our defense (though the O-line worries me). DE is a big spot, another linebacker, and a FS. I think if we do that, we’ll be okay. Much better than a QB change.
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This is the year
Hey bdawk4ever
How’s the knee recovering?
Know I’m way off topic but saw your post and wanted to ask
I would still to this day do that Kearse deal, he was awesome there was no telling he would flatten out here. This is why even though I think it will cost to much I still want to see Peppers signed.
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
he was off to a great start in the year where he tore his knee in the giants game
I think he had 3 sacks in 2 games…. he might have had a great year that year. He was never the same.
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by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Mar 1, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
Remember the Minnesota game on MNF?
When Kearse was the spy on then dominant-Culpepper? He had a monster game.
His tenure here didn’t live up to the expectations of the contract, for certain, but it wasn’t all bad.
If Culpepper was good, you know I’m going waaaay back.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
I am hopeful! Peppers and Cole would be our best pair of ends since Reggie and Clyde… Rolle would be gravy…
by 92-74-99-96 on Feb 28, 2010 7:27 PM EST via mobile reply actions
This would be outrageously sweet
But for some reason I’m not getting my hopes up. Am I being pessimistic? Was last year’s busy offseason a sign of things to come this offseason? Fingers crossed
Well there are 32 teams
- okay, 31 - who have a shot at Peppers (in theory), so not getting your hopes up is probably wise.
But I want an impact S, LB and DE from this offseason … and a C. Adding a monster DE would cover one of those needs, maybe two, since an ill rush can compensate for a meh secondary
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
If we somehow signed Rolle and Peppers (highly unlikely but we can wish), I wouldnt even care if Andy traded away our 1st round pick. It would be nice to see him draft that guard from Idaho though.
no guards in round 1 please
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by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Mar 1, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
Too expensive
I wouldn’t make the move on peppers he’s gonna want 3 or 4 years, which isnt what we want for long term.
Whoever said it doesn't matter whether you win or lose, probably lost.
I was hoping for 3 years myself
figuring that’s as short as we’ll go. But length of contract doesn’t really mean squat if it’s crafted so we leave an out to cut him when we think we’ll need to.
I just happen to be of the opinion that the Eagles are gonna make one more run with McNabb this year than turn it over to Kolb, which might mean they’ll spare no expense to craft a contender. But who knows?
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
Peppers and Rolle
takes care of our two big draft needs which would leave us open for an o-line upgrade or LB upgrade!! either way our team would look much improved!
Can I just say...
I’m loving the names of some of our newest members?
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I had to call dibs on the inevitable to-be-coveted name :/
by Bye, McNabb :( on Feb 28, 2010 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry buddy.
But I beat you to the punch.
by Bye, McNabb :) on Feb 28, 2010 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
Methinks you missed
the subtle difference in his name.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
I know the difference in the facial expressions.
You cant have the exact same screen name. And actually I created my name first, but had to cancel BGN membership and rejoin so they would re-send an activation link to my email. Damn thing spammed it.
by Bye, McNabb :) on Feb 28, 2010 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
I hope to sweet baby raptor Jesus this doesn’t happen. It’s not that he’s old or can’t play, it’s that he WON’T put in the effort to be worth the massive contract he’s going to command. Giant waste of money. He’ll make some plays but he will not be worth the money. I believe the front office will feel the same way and will not put much consideration into him, but I’ve been wrong before. I just can’t see him putting in the effort after he gets paid.
I am the people's troll :3™
I don't buy that ...
… I agree that the FO might agree with you, but I don’t believe you can predict how much a guy will try. Or rather, how much “try” is enough try, especially when a guy is so physically gifted he makes the game look easy.
Bottom line is Julius Peppers not trying all that hard is still an upgrade for our defense. And I’m not even sure we need him going hard out there every play (as blasphemous as that sounds) because he still commands double teams, which will keep said double teams off Trent Cole.
But to take it one step further, I think most of these guys are motivated by having something to play for, and believing you can win a Super Bowl is as good a motivation there is. Then you’re talking about playing across from the ultimate motor guy in Cole, perhaps even a friendly competition as to who will end up with more sacks, and I don’t think motivation will be a problem. I really don’t.
If we don’t get him, it won’t ruin the offseason for me (especially if we got a Kampman or somebody). But we need to address the defense and I think Peppers would have a huge impact.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
The thing is, there’s been times he wasn’t “trying” when he was supposedly working for a new contract. If his motivation is questionable when he’s not working for a new contract, is it unreasonable to think it’s going to be questionable AFTER his big payday?
I am the people's troll :3™
Well there's the risk.
Some might say that’s what happened with Stacy Andrews. (I’m not so sure – Stacy is a mystery to me.)
I think we can all agree that something had to happen with the ‘other’ end (not Trent) and JP might be the best option available.
If the Eagles do decide to ante up for him, it’ll be a coaching issue to keep him motivated. Just like T.O. as someone said? I sure as hell hope not.
Well, maybe Kampman wouldn’t be that great. I just glanced at his stats and he had two great years and a bunch of forgettable ones, plus his ACL. But the fact remains that Peppers will come with a gigantic price tag, and most sane people at least acknowledge the risk of him not being productive once he’s paid.
I am the people's troll :3™
Cause he's older
Kampman is fast approaching the age when it’ll be over quick.
The monster at the end of this blog.
No, it's not unreasonable at all ...
… your point is plenty valid. I just happen to be of the opinion that these are are less motivated by money (especially when it’s more than you can count) than they are by winning and their peers. So if he wanted a big contract because it makes him feel cool around other football players … having it actually means hes has to live up to it & not let the guys he plays with down.
Plus, there are examples of guys who were supposedly not trying that came in and went hard when they got a change of scenery on a winning team; you could argue that the Eagles don’t quite have the veteran leadership the old Patriots did though.
And Jason Peters openly clamored for a new contract. So did Asante Samuel. I don’t think either of those guys was known as a big “effort” guy beforehand, but they’ve done what they were brought here to do.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
exactly ...
I think he was so fed up with the Panthers that even money couldn’t motivate him.
Also everyone seems to forget that our biggest problem on defense is TEs. You have two dominating DEs you almost force the Offense to keep a TE in to block, problem solved.
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
Yup
We don’t even need Peppers to be ridiculous. We just need him to be good enough to draw double teams away from Cole. Of course his upside is way better. That would truly be a pick-your-poison type situation.
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
Dear FO....
GET…IT….DONE!
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by McNabb2Maclin4Philly on Feb 28, 2010 8:46 PM EST reply actions
a center?
I agree all three is a little unrealistic, but this is hope time … let the man dream for the next 5 days. Shoot, let’s throw Thomas Jones in there too.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
Thanks to Bye Dawk, and as far as the draft goes, just my opinion of course, but I’d definitely like to see Iupati in midnight green bulldozing defenders for Shady…
i can see that too...
i know a lot of people want a safety or linebacker, but let’s be serious… it’s andy reid. he likes o-lineman and d-lineman.
This argument is getting old
We used high picks on Desean Jackson, Lesean McCoy, and Maclin the past two years. In the early years, he emphasized the line because that’s how you build a team. Now he’s very open to drafting skill position players
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
so which andy reid...
was that a mirage that drafted lito sheppard and sheldon brown in the first two rounds??
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Mar 2, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
If we pick up
all of these key pieces there wont be an immediate need in the draft meaning no need to get value for McNabb, and although talks always go back to trading him before we get no value, we only need that value if we don’t pick up key FA’s
I disagree with all of the haters
I think that peppers will be a pretty good addition to our team and an even better book end to Cole. I was a little apprehensive at first but I think that he’ll let the interior linemen create better gaps and lets face it; he’ll beat out parker and while we keep parker as a backup we’ll have a deep D line and a better chance to stop the run. Look at what happened last year when we couldn’t stop the run and our LB corps were dessimated by injury.
I say we pick up peppers, draft a quality LB, and hopefully pick up the S Rolle from Ari. and we’ll be set. Hepefully we can get a guard and some more depth at LB later in the round and it’s a wrap!
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US Army
Wow his head is so big
that he doesn’t even need a helmet
He doesn't
even need to look at the guy. He sacks QB’s without looking at them…
Holy shit.
by LegendKnight22 on Feb 28, 2010 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
I've already said this, but Pepper's looks good in midnight green...
by JeanClaudeSilly on Feb 28, 2010 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
Its a position of need and he's elite.... wish I was in the room when they discussed it
I’d give em my 2 cents…. PAY UP!!
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by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Feb 28, 2010 9:52 PM EST reply actions
Yes!
This would be a great grab for the Eagles!
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4th Infantry Division
US Army
by larsonprojects on Feb 28, 2010 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
This is a guy that his teammates even admit doesn’t care and doesn’t the work ethic of an elite player… big contract… disappear… Do. Not. Want.
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
You enjoy all of
Chris Clemons, Victor Abiamiri, Jason Babin and Smokey Parker’s try hard. I’ll watch Julius loaf to 12 sacks, etc.
I’m a purist and I believe in effort and team chemistry and all that, but come on. Either you produce or you don’t. Peppers produces.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
So agree. If he comes up big in the playoffs and a half dozen games, that’s better than what we already have.
by ghostofandrewatters on Feb 28, 2010 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
Peppers at 70% is still much better than what we have right now.
by chrisbeomsuh on Mar 1, 2010 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t buy into the whole work ethic lazy talk I’m hearing about him. There is no denying his talent and I’ll take a chance on that.
I’d like to add that this is a lot easier to do when I’m spending someone’s money and not mine.
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
If he can play left end, and for the right price, hell yes...
by JeanClaudeSilly on Feb 28, 2010 10:55 PM EST reply actions
Did any of you see Peppers-hand-wringers those two horrible Dallas games? Are you telling me Peppers wouldn’t make a substantial difference when we play the Cowgirls next?
I’d also like a Rolle with my Peppers!
by ghostofandrewatters on Feb 28, 2010 11:34 PM EST reply actions
i prefer Peppers on my Rolle
but, it’s all good
by birds'n'raiders on Mar 1, 2010 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
Well I'd like a Kim with my Eva
But it’s highly unlikely we have enough money to pay both these guys
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
If you come up on Peppers,
thats a win for you guys. even with his taking off of plays, the fact that he might be the SECOND best end on the team might help him since he hates the spotlight anyway. him and Cole as bookends? Jeez i don’t wanna see that. teams will have fits tryna figure out how to stop y’all damn blitz.
i think you can stop the Rolle talk, from what i hear AZ’s keeping him.
you sure bout that...
not the Eagles will get him, but all signs point to his release. He as already said he’s not comin back if they release him, and he wants to see what his value is in FA.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4954227
Feb 27 FS Antrel Rolle likely will be released in the coming week rather than pay a $4 million roster bonus that’s due in early March. Rolle’s salary also is scheduled to escalate to $8 million. The $12 million price tag for 2010 is too high, but the Cardinals view Rolle as a key piece to their defense. Rolle and ILB Karlos Dansby have said they’d be interested in playing for Miami. “At this point, I realize those guys could become free agents and they are interested in what the market will bear,” GM Rod Graves said at the Combine. "At the same time, I am confident those guys don’t undervalue what they mean to our football team and their relationship with us.
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Mar 1, 2010 3:48 AM EST up reply actions
thought i saw somewhere that the Cardinals were planning on resigning him
but maybe my eyes deceived me.
Probably depends on how much Rolle likes living in Arizona. Cardinals are likely to take a step back next year and Rolle probably has a better chance of winning a SB with another team.
by donniethelion on Mar 1, 2010 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
i love the panthers and pep is my favorite play aside from steve smith. i cant even try to describe the feeling i would get if the eagles got peppers.. please do it.. before the crazy redskins pay him a million dollars per game or he goes to the fucking patriots :|
I will not be happy if he goes to anyone in the NFC East and if he went to the Patriots… well, i’d be equally upset.
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
I don't think it would be Dallas
WIth the emergence of Anthony Spencer. And NYG is also loaded at defensive end. Maybe Washington? That would be the highest-paid defensive line ever. Highly doubt they have the guns to go after Peppers though.
Hate to say it, but I think the Patriots are more likely. Bill Belichik is to star free agents what Pete Carroll was to impressionable high school recruits.
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
yeah
I would agree with you, I just mentioned the NFC East because someone else had mentioned Washington. We’ll just have to wait and see what happens.
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
Peppers bigger + stronger than Kearse
If Peppers is healthy, Eagles should definitely make a push for him. Should have 2-3 potentially great years left in him.
How can you take alot of plays off when playing opposite T-Cole?
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by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Mar 1, 2010 1:14 PM EST reply actions
Peppers +Rolle = SB
If we were able to get them we would be able to go into the draft without major needs besides C and OLB it would allow the team to draft the best player at the position instead of being left with a have to when are turn comes to draft. But yes if the D wants to get better giving Cole a friend to play who can get the most sacks would allow us to go back to dictate there O one of are biggest probs is TE’s well with peppers and cole there TE would have to stay in a lot more.
But at the end of the day if our D line was able to get more pressure we could blitz when we wanted to and be more successful when we did it. also our mediocre DT’s would look better with that type of DE’s
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Don’t let him show you where the lemonade is made
sweet lemonade
hmm sweet lemonade
sweet lemonade yeah sweet lemonade
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
Eagles not getting Peppers
I bet you Eagles dont get Peppers. Gotta pay D.Jackson, plus Peppers is like 31 anyway. I would only agree to a 3 yhear contract at most if we were to sign him.
I favor 3 years myself
and DJackson can get paid with the leftovers from cutting Kevin Curtis, Westbrook, et. al. … Available money is not a factor.
But way to go out on a limb taking the 31 other teams.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
Eagles offseason
Sign peppers aand an athletic linebacker. Thomas Howard. He’s a free agent and he isn’t a big name so he shouldnt demand a high contract. Acquire the Cleveland browns first rounder and draft Eric berry if he falls to 7. Then with the 24th pick you got a couple of choices. You could go center to replace Jackson since Cole isn’t a natural center. Plus Jackson will be out maybe the whole year with his torn ACL. you could take the guard from Idaho while the Andrews brothers are rehabbing. You could get cute and draft Taylorays to have berry and mays for the future. A pure ballhawk and a punishing hitter. You could also draft cb for the future. Or you could draft another linebacker for when witherspoon leaves and replace him with Sean weatherspoon from mizzou. Maybe draft Terrence Cody second round and legarrette blount third? Maybe Jevan Snead if mcnabb or kolb goes. Sign sproles. To be the third down threat or rely on avant. We need a good kick returner though.
If Peppers is signed
What do you see happening to Juqua Parker?
He might not be happy at getting turned into a backup after an 8-sack season.
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