We've beaten the "Trade McNabb?" debate to death... Let's take a break and watch other fans debate him.

Here’s something to consider: there are teams out there you have a hard time selling tickets. Philly is a football town and it’s been over 10 years since we’ve ever had a problem selling tickets, but there are teams out there who would take McNabb just because he would fill stadiums/sell merch. I think Buffalo is a great destination for him, we did business with them before. I think it would make more sense to go to Minne or Ari, but it looks like even other teams fans realize his hay days are over by a lot.

McNabb is an upgraded version of Daunte Culpepper…a guy that can put up good stats when talent is around him!!

I hear what he is trying to say..but he is very wrong about that. One of Dmacs upsides was that he did MORE with LESS talent around him for years and years. A guy who only had Bwest as a main weapon. And had TO and Bwest together for only one season. Dmacs put up crazy stats with hardly ANY legit talent around him. Or..maybe I’m just crazy!

I cant believe you got banned just trying to work on this posting.. You my friend are a god among men on this site and for that i congratulate you.

make it pretty clear that most people on here over rate McNabb even when McNabb is playing good. He’s not worth a first rounder, no matter how you spin it, no one is going to give us a 1st rounder with a deep draft.

I had to laugh when you said this: "Unfortunately for “bradley,” he’s an idiot…" LMAO
Good Research, Good Blogging, very nice.

lol on that orton picture. Man he looks like me after we lost to dallas back to back

“I’m ok with the Broncos being solid if not spectacular behind Orton”

Can you imagine an Eagles fan ever saying such a thing?

Wait, if you can get banned for posting too many fanposts, how is kingmcnabb still around?!

Have we overvalued mcnabb’s trade value and teams we think he would go to?….or that we’re not gonna get good value for mcnabb and no one actually wants him to be there qb? Obviously none of these fans make the gm decisions, but it doesn’t seem anyone is gonna offer a first for mnabb.
After reading this, it looks like 5 is gonna get one more shot to get a ring in green.

we could tag and trade him for whatever next year, but If the FO wants Kolb then this could be the year.

not for the same price tag of course

i wonder what the level of interest would be among the fans and how it would change v. what they think of mcnabb

Bye Dawk getting banned from SB Nation is fuckin’ hilarous! Nice work brotha!

I know that putting that together was a lot of work but, as always, well done! Rec’d

Nice post BD.

I think it’s clear that many fans around the league respect what McNabb has done and can do. I also think it’s very clear that everyone is skeptical as to his durability.

Regardless of what we the fans think March/April is going to be exciting.

Im most surprised by the vikings fans. Their coach was McNabbs OC….. Its unbelievable to me that they wouldn’t take him with a team that is capable of making a long playoff run. The window thats closing the fastest for them in my opinion is Adrian Peterson, his body isn’t going to hold up that much longer so you have to try to win one before hes done.

I get a stronger feeling that McNabb will be our starting QB in 2010.

Obviously the fans of teams aren’t completely indicative of what the front offices of teams feel… BUT if this is any indication of what the value of McNabb is, it tells me that the Eagles won’t receive an offer that is big enough to unload McNabb.

As much as I’m ready to move onto Kolb, I’m not ready to “give away” McNabb (and I don’t think Andy & co. are either). <—- And, BD, this isn’t saying that your offers aren’t reasonable and fair. I would be happy with any of those offers as an Eagles fans, but it looks like a lot of other teams arent. And I’m not okay with dealing McNabb for less than the offers shown above.

If I am the Eagles RIGHT NOW… I see us as being better than the Warner-less Cardinals and the Favre-less Vikings (assuming Favre retires). That, in theory, puts us in contention for the NFC crown, right behind the Saints and Cowboys.

If we trade McNabb to the Cards or Vikes, I think this immediately gives them enough of an upgrade to supplant us as a “better team.” I don’t know if acquiring their 1st round pick is going to be enough to offset the upgrade they receive with McNabb.

Obviously this isn’t a hard-and-fast fact and anything can happen come NFL Season 2010. And obviously this is arguable… some may consider the Favre-less Vikes as still being better than the Eagles with McNabb. But I don’t think that’s the case.

Although a 1st sounds very appealing to us… I don’t know if the Eagles will feel the same if we’re sending him to a team that in the end could block our chances at SB XLV.

Man this must have taken a bit of time but it is really interesting to get this kind of feedback from other fans.

I am not surprised that you hardy got any votes from the Rams’ site. Traveled to St. Louis last fall and it was remarkable how apathetic the fanbase was to the team especially given some of the real success they have had the past 10+ years. Baseball town through and through (Philly isn’t even close) with a small diehard Blues’ fanbase.

are laughing at us for thinking of getting rid of an “elite”, “first rate”, “quality” QB. Philly fans just don’t get it. Check out what this lady thinks of the McNabb haters.
http://www.cbssports.com/columns/story/12945484/dealing-away-mcnabb-would-be-flat-foolish-for-philly

If hes goes and everybody always says “be careful what you wish for” and he wins a Super Bowl with another team, i guess we are all gonna eat crow. With hot sauce! Cuz its gonna burn. But i will get over it like i have gotten over all of the nfc championship losses.

I dont hate mcnabb, im just tired of mcnabbs bullshit chokings. I love mcnabb i have 3 jerseys a black replica, a white authentic, and a grey replithentic, but its time time to go man a fan can only take so many heartbreaks. Hes the best weve ever had but so is Andy Reid and he needs a chance with another QB before he retires. Buddy Ryan and his defenses in the late 80’s and early 90’s is my second best by the way. Im still pretty new here at BGN and i wanted to lay that out there for evryone on my mcnabb status.

I’m a little offended. I’m about as far from a drama-queen as you can ever find. I’m certainly not a shinny-new-problem person. But you came to our site, to our house (Denver Broncos), and politely asked for opinions – on your Trojan Horse as it turns out – about McNabb.

We accepted you and answered you. Now that you’re out of sight and got what you wanted, you call one of our fans an idiot? For what, because his opinion doesn’t mesh with yours?

Here’s a news flash, “Bradley” is right.

MF Tom Brady, him and his ‘three years’ assessment aside. Your QB (McNabb) will turn 34 next season. With a potential lockout looming for the 2011 season, he could be turning 36 during his second season with the Broncos (provided they wanted him, of course). It’s ridiculous for a team that already has at least a stop-gap, to bring in another. And don’t argue that McNabb’s not a stop-gap, because he’s certainly not the future.

McNabb is a great, but he’s an aging scrambler, already injury prone. Scramblers don’t punch the time clock into their 40’s like Brett Farve. Your man is already averaging 12.6 games per year over the last half-decade. We can’t reasonably expect that to be different aging forward.

Also, McNabb is due what, $11.5M for 2010; Kyle Orton is due a tender of about $3M.

Bradley is right. And you are wrong on a multitude of levels. Most notably of which, is to come to our house with the nice costume on, then bag on our hospitable fans for doing nothing other than to help you out in your endevours – once their back is to you.

I don’t represent the Denver Broncos site, milehighreport.com. Even yet, I’m tempted to tell you that you are no more welcome there, than McNabb is in Denver.

Philly will trade McNabb, as they should while he still has value. But Denver isn’t in the market, regardless of what rumors you’ve heard.

I don’t curse on our site, but when in Rome….

The “great Bye Dawk”, huh? Hmmmmm. Suck cock much?

Good points, counter-attacking my arguments (sarcasm, you fucking idiot).

I guess there is truly a reason that you guys are notoriously known for being bad fans. Hey btw (that means ‘by the way’, just in case your dumb ass can’t figure it out), it’s still rude to politely ask for opinions, then quote those opinionators as being an “idiot”. And that’s what your God did.

You can have the last word.

2005 he was awful, 2006, before he go tinjured if we didnt make the big play he was awful, 2007 mediocre, 2008 played a bit better but threw like crap for an entire half in the CG game, in 2009 he was mediocre at best and now he can’t scramble as well. He’s not a good qb in this system and if you can’t see tha tyou have your love goggles on.

http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2010/2/20/1319760/final-results-of-the-two-round

we will be doing a 7 rd draft after the Combine and currently we have no Eagles rep which is understandable. ByeDawk would be a good rep as he seems fanatical enough to have the endurance for the full 7 rds heck it`s been ages since the Boy`s crushed the Eagles and he still frequents our boards.

keep McNabb he`s great and get rid of Kolb he has no future.

I agree that the fans have unrealistic values when it comes to what they want for a player and what they will give to get a player.

As someone posted it is of course what the GM’s think what really matters.

Your FO has a tough job to convince the other teams that the Eagles will keep all three QB’s for 2010 (with or without contract extensions) so it will take a big offer to get one of those players now. It seems the Rams believe that you will not and that is why they have by accounts made a low offer for Vick.

The values may increase as the season approaches if injuries occur – but again a team may wait to see who blinks first.

It would be ironic if you got a late round pick for Vick and use it to get Tebow to replace him.

I was stuck btwn The Bills & Vikes… (think I went with Minn). I so wanted to pick Denver though, cause we seemed to make a habit of giving them our aging but still good players.

Rec’d. Even though in the end it doesn’t matter it’s cool to see what the fans of the other teams are thinking.

I’m a Vikings fan, and I enjoyed this thread. I have a great amount of respect for the Eagles and Eagles fans. They are one of my favorite teams other than the Vikings.

I guess I’m here to try to explain, as best I can, why I don’t think the Vikings should trade for McNabb.

First, the Vikings should try to develop a franchise quarterback on their own. Currently we have Tarvaris Jackson. With all seven picks in the 2010 draft, there is room to draft a rookie. We Vikings fans experienced a revolving door of free agent quarterbacks in the 90s, only one of which was your own Randall Cunningham. While Cunningham and others like Warren Moon gave the Vikings great years, they didn’t get the Vikings over the hump. Meanwhile, excellent quarterbacks like Rich Gannon and Brad Johnson were developed by the Vikings, and then ended up on other clubs. The two of them faced off in a Super Bowl which was an ironic moment for Vikings fans.

In Super Bowl history, no quarterback in his first year with a team has ever started as a quarterback for a Super Bowl-winning team. If that precedent continues, and the Vikings acquired McNabb, the Vikings would not win Super Bowl XLV next year. Then in 2011, the season might not happen due to a lockout. Then, in 2012, many of the players, from McNabb to defensive stars to Adrian Peterson, might be starting to fade.

A team should never say, “This is the year in which we must win.” The team should always keep developing . But to give the Vikings their best chance, it doesn’t make sense to bring in a new free agent quarterback for just one year, followed by a lockout.

My whole deal over in Vikings-land is to not give up on Tarvaris Jackson. Our team gave up on winners like Brad Johnson and Rich Gannon. Our team failed to properly develop Daunte Culpepper (Instead of developing him as a pocket passer, he was allowed to rely too much on his scrambling ability. When he had his knee injury, it set back his career for years. It led to his alienation from the team. It forced the Vikings to trade him.)

The Vikings must never make the mistake of giving up on a good, developing quarterback again. Tarvaris Jackson—say what you want—he has a lot of ability. Probably more ability than Rich Gannon had, yet he went on to greatness (NFL MVP plus almost 30,000 yards passing). Jackson just needs more time to develop.

The Vikings must not give up on any of our developing quarterbacks. Tarvaris Jackson has not stopped developing. He continues to improve each year. He hasn’t hit his ceiling yet.

If we won’t give up on our quarterback who is still just developing, why are you giving up on your franchise quarterback?

One more thing. Brett Favre. We Vikings fans want him as our quarterback in 2010 more than anyone else. We respect whatever he decides, but we do want him back. Badly.

As for McNabb himself, he has never won the big one. That is a cold, heartless comment on his brilliant career, but it is also true. He never won a bowl game in college, and the biggest win of his career was one NFC Championship game, while he lost four others.

Maybe McNabb is about to reach the “late Elway” stage of his career and get some Super Bowl wins. But if that were the case, why would you be trading him?

I need to say something to Eagles fans. I know it has been brutal over the years. McNabb was booed when Rickey Williams was not drafted. Philly is a tough town and McNabb has battled through everything.

Donovan McNabb has never given up fighting for the Eagles and Eagles fans. He has been elite for you, courageous for you, and honorable for you. He is a valiant warrior. He is the best Eagles player in decades.

So why are Eagles fans giving up on Donovan McNabb? Why don’t you just keep him and go win the dang Super Bowl?

We want him right where he is.