Anybody Hungry for Peppers?
by EZ55 on Feb 10, 2010 1:44 PM EST
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PrintWelcome to the off-season folks! I was looking to see if anybody posted anything soley about Julius Peppers, but I haven't seen such an article on this site yet, beside some references in Joe_D's article about prediction. I don't post a lot on this site, but I do check it daily and I respect the posts and comments you guys write. Thanks for that, I really appreciate having new Eagles news and opinions on a daily basis. Ok, enough man-loving, on to the story at hand...
In an article, NFL.com has said the Eagles could be interested in Mr. Pepprs and ESPN.com has also linked the 30 year old DE to the Eagles in their "insider" section of the web-site. Obviously it is all rumors and speculation at this point, but it is definintely an interesting concept to grab ahold of. As we all know, we need much more production from our defensive line. Julius Peppers offers a great compliment to Trent Cole. However, they both play RDE so one of them would have to switch to the left, which I don't think should be too much of a problem. I realize Peppers has a tendancy to be a little inconsistant over the years (2.5 sacks in 2007 to 14.5 sacks in 2008), but there is no denying that he has the talent and potential to help this team out a heck of a lot. I would take him over any of our DE's at this point in their careers (besides Cole, obviously). Sure, he's a high-profile name thus getting more attention, but let's not forget that this man had 10.5 sacks last season and made the Prow-Bowl.
More after the jump
Ok, let's do a little bit of comparisons..
2009 Stats:
Trent Cole - 12.5 Sacks 57 Tackles 2FF 0 INT Age: 27
Victor Abiamiri - 2.0 Sacks 16 Tackles 1 FF 0 INT Age: 24
Jason Babin - 2.5 Sacks 16 Tackles 0 FF 0 INT Age: 29
Chris Clemons - 3.0 Sacks 11 Tackles 0 FF 0 INT Age: 28
Darren Howard - 6.5 Sacks 24 Tackles 2 FF 0 INT Age: 32
Juqua Parker - 8.0 Sacks 34 Tackles 2 FF 0 INT Age: 31
Julius Peppers - 10.5 Sacks 42 Tackles 5 FF 2 INT Age: 30
I realize I'm comparing these guys just on 1 season, but this is very much a "what have you done for me lately" league, so I think it makes sense to use these stats. Now, I realize that not all of our players are starters like Peppers, but wow! I guess the best way to draw conclusions is to compare him to Parker. Make whatever conclusions you want from this data, but I feel the numbers do the talking. Aside from the double digit sack number, two interceptions by a defensive end is just amazing! And it's not like it's something new to him, the man has 6 career interceptions, so that wingspan adds an extra element of talent we haven't seen too often here in Philly. Even beyond the interceptions, he had 5 FF (more than double the amount of our 3 best guys). Winning the turnover battle is key to winning football games and Peppers accounted for about 7 turnovers himself (not sure how many of those FF were recovered). And finally, the age dilemma. With what seems to be a youth movement in Philadelphia, it would seem uncharacteristic to sign an aging DE. But if you look at the ages of these guys, they are all about the same age with the exceptions of Abiamiri and Cole. Why not sign him to a 3-year deal. I'm pretty sure he has at least 3 good seasons left in the tank and he's a healthy guy, only missing 6 games his entire career. This is unrelated, but that's pretty much the same as 1 season for Brian Westbrook!
Ok, I'm going to get off my Julius Peppers rant here soon. Just a few more points to ponder...I feel that Andy Reid and the FO could definitely pull the trigger and get this guy. We've made big splashes in free agency the past few years and I feel DE is a pretty big need for this team. Having another elite pass rusher would relieve some of the stress of our DBs out there, who struggled last season with quaterbacks having so much time to throw the football against us. Week in and week out we were handled at the line of scrimmage. With Trent and Julius possibly getting doubled, that can free some blockers from our DTs and clear some lanes for our LBs on their blitzes as well. We could arguably have the best DE tandem in the league with these two guys. I still have hope for Abiamiri, but the kid just cannot seem to stay healthy. I say we still get a DE or two in the draft to add some youth, but there is no way all the guys listed above will be coming back. In my opinion, we sign Peppers, get some youth, and trade a guy or two to bolster up this defensive line.
I'll turn it to you guys now. What do you think? Does it seem rational to make this move? Remember, I respect all of your opinions, so please return the favor to me. Thanks guys and happy posting!
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i dont want him
he wants to play in a 3-4, too inconsistent, too much money, and a good draft class this year on the defensive end
id rather roll the dice on a draft pick or two than roll the dice and the brinks truck up for a proven 30 yr old
I absolutely decline to offer my opinion on or read any posts about the McNabb v. Kolb debacle. Those posts never end and I choose to sit back and wait to see what happens. This is going to be a long offseason.
A 3-4 DE is what the Eagles need for our style of DE
Kearse was a failure in Philly because we ask out DEs to play run first and engage the OT on most downs, not just run around them. Kearse only wanted to rush the passer…
Peppers being a 3-4 DE is used to playing the run first and engaging and then shedding blocks.
He’d be great… the major question is at what price and for how long/ how much guaranteed and back loaded can we make the deal.
Drafting a DE is scary though
Its the one position of the NFL I think that should be traded for. Since the 2005 NFL Draft (including this last one), 17 DEs have been drafted in the first round, only 1 has been to the Pro Bowl and he didn’t even do it as a DE (Brian Orakpo). And since 2005, the Eagles have drafted 4 defensive ends…only 1 has been to the Pro Bowl (Cole). Its too risky of a position to rely on by drafting.
Mario Williams?
About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.
Consider our last 2
Abiamiri (2nd round) who has dealt with some injuries, but overall has failed to meet expectations
Bryan Smith (3rd round) who didn’t even make the team this year
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
On The Fence
If we sign him, I can’t say I wouldn’t be ecstatic about it.
But having said that, he’s not a guy I’m fiening for. He’s not a guy I’d be disappointed about if we didn’t get him. He’s going to want way too much money and he’s on the downward end of his career. He certainly is a good player and an obvious upgrade over JP/Clemons/Babin/Howard/all-of-the-above, but is he worth quarterback-type money? Definitely not.
If we sign him, great. If not, that’s probably even better for us in the long run.
i'm on the fence too...
he seems like the type of guy who is just looking for a pay day. he may be a jevon kearse type guy where he’ll get his money and then we’ll get only one good year out of him. i’d rather have kampman to be honest.
kearse
that “good year” was ’04, and we went to the SB…ill take one good year if thats what we get…and this time get that ring!!!!!!!!
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Feb 10, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
I was looking to see if anybody posted anything soley about Julius Peppers, but I haven’t seen such an article on this site yet
I posted a fan shot on him earlier 9 days ago.
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2010/1/31/1286409/peppers-will-be-there-for-the
I’m probably the one calling for him the most on BGN.
I'm right behind you.
He’d make a nice bookend to Cole.
...But if he pulls the rug on his quarterback, Reid must do it knowing that he let McNabb down more than McNabb ever let him down.
Phil Sheridan--Philadelphia Inquirer
We all want to upgrade...
..but is Julius Peppers gunna be our man from here until 4 years from now? Will he do that dreaded “off-play” too many times as an Eagle?? Or will he be the dominating force we all DREAM about???
I want our Eagles to be the best we can be…and possibly there is a way we can slide Peppers in “under the radar” bc of this CBA. If we can load up a bunch of money up front (play sneaky with these CBA rules) yet keep his yearly pay low, then we could use this CBA to our advantage!! But if this will hinder us for years to come, let’s focus on the draft.
Anybody see the article of Kolb for Shaun Rogers!?!?!?! Im very intrigued about this. Keep McNabb another 2 years with Vick or sign Feely and put a dominator in our defense…..MAKES SENSE TO ME!!!!
Dr_Mayo
by EagleFan_FromCalifornia on Feb 10, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
rogers...
i said that on another post. except i said if we were gonna trade mcnabb to the browns. forget cribbs, id trade for rogers and still sign peppers…we’d have a maddenized defense!!
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Feb 10, 2010 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
here's the link
about the potential Kolb/Rogers deal from PE.com
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/bloghead/
They still say to get peppers, too..that would just be an absolutely disgusting d-line.
it's the kind of thought
that makes you laugh at its insanity, but it’s actually possible…im all for anything that gets us that RING!!…any combo the FO is willing to do…i dont care it’s seymour and peppers….peppers/rogers or rogers/seymour….make that d’line too ridiculous to stop. kind of thing that makes you giggle with maddness…
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Feb 10, 2010 7:02 PM EST up reply actions
i’m with you man..you try not to get caught up in it, but it’s so entertaining to think about that there is no way you can’t..that ring is all i care about and i’m up for whatever the birds can do to make that happen..
same way
we felt bout our offense this year, eagles fans were giddy with anticipation on how we were gonna use all that speed/talent. i can’t imagine having that feeling on both sides of the ball, i dont know how we wouldnt be favorites. we’d easily have closed the gap and shot passed the cowboys.
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Feb 10, 2010 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
i hope so!! i can’t handle another season of being dominated by them..especially on the d-line..we would be set for the big dance..then again, we seem to think this almost every year in philly…i may have been the only one pissed NO won the superbowl..it’s not fair to be able to do that the first time there!! gotta go through philly pain first so you can appreciate it! haha
i absolutely abhore N.O.
don’t care that they won it the first time they were there, i wish they’d never win one….“who dat” nation is the WORST…
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Feb 10, 2010 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
the difference
i think the rest of the league would agree that we were SCARY on both sides of the ball….id book my flight to dallas….
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Feb 10, 2010 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
finally
someone else who hates the “who dat” nation!! and yep, i agree with that..hopefully the FO makes it happen..i think they finally realize they need to make big moves
eagles FO is unpredictable...
never know what they’re thinking….
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Feb 10, 2010 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
New Orleans...
…is a cesspool of a city that makes the slums of Calcutta seem like the Garden of Eden. Yeah, it sucks that Hurricane Katrina hit. But America got behind them and that was 5 years ago. I cringed when a few of the Saints wanted to “win it for Katrina.” When the Patriots won their Super Bowls, Robert Kraft (a noted Jewish Philanthropist) didn’t claim that they “won it for Auschwitz.”
...But if he pulls the rug on his quarterback, Reid must do it knowing that he let McNabb down more than McNabb ever let him down.
Phil Sheridan--Philadelphia Inquirer
wow...
i didnt just read that….
ps. the holocaust is myth…
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Feb 10, 2010 8:09 PM EST up reply actions
Can't stand them
Nothing against the team, but can’t forget their fans with paper bags over their heads.
If my mother put on a helmet and shoulder pads and a uniform that wasn't the same as the one I was wearing, I'd run over her if she was in my way. And I love my mother. - Bo Jackson
AMEN my brotha!!!
wait…Seymour too!?!?!??! that just blows my mind. I think he’d be a perfect Eagle
Dr_Mayo
by EagleFan_FromCalifornia on Feb 10, 2010 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
im on this wagon...
he’s my number one want….everything else can be had in the draft. a dominant DE across from cole would be an instant upgrade to our defense and take it to the top teir in the league where it belongs. a front 4 that can get pressure will make any hole in our defense, at LB or FS, look that much smaller…
draft a FS and LB with our first two picks, in whatever order you like, and id be happy with whatever else our FO does.
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Feb 10, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
numbers wise
i think ballpark is 12 mil a year…5/60mil….is what he will command.
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Feb 10, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
I really don't believe he'll ask for that much
And even if he does, I’m confident he won’t get it. Time spares no one especially Peppers.
that figure...
that was my max figure to sign him….not a starting point for negotiations.
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Feb 10, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
to clarify...
i see 5 year 60mil a max to get peppers…not a bidding point…
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Feb 10, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
He’s going to look for Haynesworth money. I don’t think he’ll get it but he’s gonna try to get as close to that as possible.
If that’s the case, I don’t even consider it.
It's all about value
I want upgrades everywhere DEPENDING on what we have to give up for them…
it’s the same with our QB’s…I’d prefer to keep Kolb, but if someone offers the right price, I’d trade him.
In the NFL, everyone has a price.
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
ha, never got to my point
I think you’re right…Peppers is probably going to want more money than he’s worth to us. We need an upgrade at that position, but we have some other guys we need sign (Weaver and Avant…), unless we trade McNabb to free up money (I guess Westy retiring/getting cut would free up a good amount of money too)
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
westy...
if westy was cut (don’t know the cap hit) or traded, you could pay avant/weaver w/ the money he was to receive alone….
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Feb 11, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
Westy either stays and restructures his contract for less money, gets traded to someone
who’s desperate for a RB(Lions, CHI maybe) or he gets cut.
I dont think he’ll restructure his contract, he has to much pride and that’d be admitting he cannot do what he’s done anymore.
The 2nd one isnt good either, we’d want to much for him considering his injuries and age.
the 3rd one’s the best option.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
No one's gonna trade with his contract
He needs to realize that he’s not going to make $7.5M next year from the Eagles, or from ANYONE for that matter. He’ll either restructure to play with us, retire, or get cut, in which case someone will undoubtedly pick him up, but for WAY less money than the $7.5M of his contract, and probably less money than the Eagles were willing to pay him in a restructured deal
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
Only what I think...
There’s a chance someone pays him more than we’re willing to pay him. That’s why I think he’ll ask to be cut to test the market before he agrees to restructure. And if he doesn’t get a better offer from another team then he’ll come back to us.
I agree with this
there’s no reason for him not to test the market before agreeing to a restructure
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
I’m actually okay with letting Avant go if it means signing a guy like Peppers or getting another big upgrade somewhere else.
I love Avant, but he’s only worth 3rd WR money… nothing more. If signing him means we miss out on another key position upgrade then let him walk.
not that im "in the know"
but i don’t see avant tryin to hold out for more money, i think he knows his place on this team. he’s not gonna be a one or two. i hope he stays, he’s like safety valve…esp. if mcnabb is our qb..
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Feb 11, 2010 8:35 PM EST up reply actions
sorry man
i didn’t see your post..i looked for one, but i guess not hard enough..i apologize for the re-post..glad you didn’t blow up on me though..glad to know see your support for Peppers!
it is to 36...
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Feb 10, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
nah
route36 im with u .. i been askin for peppers for months
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Feb 10, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
He's a top 5 player
So if he deserves the money, let him have it. Someone is bounded to offer him some rediculous contract, but if we can get him for a fair (but obviously large price), I say we go for it, especially if we decide to bring Mcnabb back.
I would like it, but it would be scary
we would probably have to sign him for around 5 years, and pay him somewhere between 12-15 million a year. Perhaps there’s a way to front load the contract so we eat alot of the cap space next season when there isnt a cap.
If he turns out to be a lazy fuck after getting paid, it will kill the cap. so I dunno, its tough. I don’t think it will happen because andy is not a fan of 30+ year old players and handing him one of the biggest contracts in the nfl is not very appealing.
I want him.
He would make our D-Line among the best, if not the best in the league. I like the sound of a 3 year deal with a mid-round draft pick of a DE to develop behind Peppers. It frees up the earlier draft picks for other need areas or quality picks if someone falls. The only way I don’t want him is if it means losing Avant and/or Weaver.
I'd suck it up and lose Avant...
…if for some reason there was a need to pick between Peppers and Avant. But I wouldn’t give up Weaver.
...But if he pulls the rug on his quarterback, Reid must do it knowing that he let McNabb down more than McNabb ever let him down.
Phil Sheridan--Philadelphia Inquirer
I would love it
For one…the 2.5 sack year he played injured the entire year.
Everyone says he is inconsistent and this and that. Well remember Randy Moss played for the Oakland Raiders and people said he fell off then he signed with the Pats and was a top 3 receiver again. I think motivation plays a big part in it. I think the fact that he didn’t want to play for the Panthers brought on the “inconsistent” tag. But if 10.5 sacks this year is “inconsistent,” I’ll take that inconsistency. Another thing is people say he will command “top dollar.” I don’t believe he’ll be asking for a 12-15 million dollar price tag, and even if he does, the chances of him getting that are very slim. The fact remains he is not getting any younger and he might even have to change schemes (especially if he goes to a 3-4). Regardless if you don’t like him or do, the fact remains his name alone will demand attention from defensive coordinators and that will open up more opportunities for Cole, Patterson, and Bunkley.
wow
parker had 8 sacks .. i missed this .. i didnt even know he had 8 sacks and i watched every game
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Feb 10, 2010 3:22 PM EST reply actions
hmm
also chris clemmons is still on this team? haha im joking .. but u get the point
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Feb 10, 2010 3:35 PM EST reply actions
I agree with you here.
I can’t stand Clemons. A waste of $$$.
...But if he pulls the rug on his quarterback, Reid must do it knowing that he let McNabb down more than McNabb ever let him down.
Phil Sheridan--Philadelphia Inquirer
Don’t forget chokeslamming Travaris Jackson
About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.
Yo, that "block" made him worth every penny.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
cap space...
i know there’s no cap next year, but for the years after….and for the people like weaver/avant we have to resign…and restructure jackson…we could cut that list of DE’s in half…
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Feb 10, 2010 3:47 PM EST reply actions
I'd like to get peppers but Juqua Parker
got 8 sacks in less time than it took peppers to get 10.5…
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
He was always a little bit underrated by the guys on this site. Yeah, I know he’s not great but he has been very solid for us.
About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.
yo, they actually have him at 8.5 sacks on the season per the eagles website, that only puts him 2 sacks
below Peppers and he did that in about 2/3 the playing time Peppers did… I dont think our lack of pass rush so so much not having a LDE, im begining to think it was our lack of LB’s, in the past when our Pass rush has been sucessful its more been someone like Jaqua stirring the pot, Cole blowing up that left side and our LB’s going for blood, this past year our LB’s were sub-par and we couldnt blitz them as much as we wanted, remember with JJ we always sent more that the O could account for but this year we often were outnumbered when it came to us getting after the QB..
Im begining to think that kicking JP to the curb and getting some guy for big bucks is gonna be a bad idea, right now I’d rather draft one in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th and develope them.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
Cole + Peppers
= Best DE tandem in the league.
Is that worth Haynesworth-type money though? Ehhhh… I don’t know.
Yes.
It will mean more interceptions, more pressure up the middle (production from Bunkley and Patterson from double teams), better linebacker play, and fewer blitzes needing to be dialed up because we can now get pressure from the front four.
...But if he pulls the rug on his quarterback, Reid must do it knowing that he let McNabb down more than McNabb ever let him down.
Phil Sheridan--Philadelphia Inquirer
by EvilBanner on Feb 10, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Absolutely Agreed
That was definitely the point I was making in my post. I think that one position could actually help out the entire defense more than people think.
exactly
thats what i said a lil farther up….a solid front 4 will make any holes on defense, lb or fs, look that much smaller…
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Feb 10, 2010 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
Ehh, no. not to just one of them..
if were were to give haynesworth like money to a tandum like that we’d have to split it up and I’d give the bigger chunk to Cole considering he had more sacks, and peppers would never go for that..
Peppers is to old to be given haynesworth like money.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
He is not going to get Haynesworth like money.
Daniel Snyder already paid Haynesworth Haynesworth-like money. With the uncertainity about the lockout in 2011 and the Mayan Apocalypse in 2012, I doubt the pursestrings are going to be that loose.
...But if he pulls the rug on his quarterback, Reid must do it knowing that he let McNabb down more than McNabb ever let him down.
Phil Sheridan--Philadelphia Inquirer
lol, I forgot about 2012.. Is there an "eagles heaven" were we win the superbowl everyday and get
to watch TO get killed in various ways? And (gasp) an accurate McNabb…
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
its good for the heart
Desean Jackson- Im Number 1, the real deal, The 1(0)ne to Watch.
Interview while at Cal.
For a good price?
Fuck yes. The man’s a monster, and has producing through injuries and whatnot.
NO WAY
He’s up in age, He’ll probably be a big hit to the cap, and we still have Abiamiri and parker (i know they’re not game changers but they are very solid players). Save the money for a DEFENSIVE BACK. Just look at what happened with Haynesworth this year! The overall defense needs to improve, but first we need a good safety to run the show in the secondary.
If Peppers does come here
It likely means they are trying to load up for one last blow out and McNabb will be back for one last ride.
Eagles only get one High priced UFA
I just want to remind all Eagle fans that they are restricted in how many Unrestricted free agents they can sign this year. You can have one FA which you pay more than 5 million dollars, first year salary. If you go after Peppers don’t forget that you have used up your high priced option. You can sign all the UFA’s you want that are less than 3 million ,first year salary. First year salary includes signing bonus’s so that isn’t much money.
Good luck in your quest.
Winning is not everything but it sure feels like it sometimes
final eight
isn’t that he final eight rule?….eagles lost in the WC round…that doesnt apply.
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Feb 11, 2010 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
You are absolutely right.
I was thinking play-off teams and not top 8. Thanks for the reminder.
Good kuck
Winning is not everything but it sure feels like it sometimes
by lifelongvike on Feb 11, 2010 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
At first I was against this, so I decided to do a little research
Peppers is older and he is going to command a high price, something we all know the Eagles FO isn’t real big on. So I decided to see if Peppers would be worth it as far as our division goes and now I am saying yes. All these stats are without playing them in playoffs.
Against Washington in 2 career games: 6 tackles and 3 sacks
Against New York in 4 career games: 10 tackles 3 sacks
Against Dallas in 5 career games: 15 tackles 7 sacks
Now this is all when he has been the main focus of their offensive line. They can’t do that if he came here. Not unless they want to help Coles break the single season sack record. These 2 on the ends could cause some serious damage. Those Dallas numbers are awesome. Anytime you can make one of their gay ass QB’s eat dirt, it’s always a huge ass plus with me. The other thing. I see the want to trade for Rogers but how about Wilfork instead? He doesn’t want to play for the Pats because they keep disrespecting him. he is relatively young. Huge and strong. And he would probably only cost us some draft picks, thus we can keep Kolb. I say Wilfork >Rogers.
" AK 47! When you absolutely, positively have to kill every muthafucka in the room! Except no substitute." Samuel L Jackson- Jackie Brown
"You know what you should do United Nations? You should sanction me. Sanctiom me with your army! Oh, wait a minute! You ain't got an army! Guess that means you need to shut the fuck up! That's what I would do if I didn't have an army. I would shut the fuck up! Shut...The...Fuck...Up!!!" Black Bush
Sorry had to add something else
If we truly want to make that last push with McNabb, we definetely need to spend the cash in FA this year and I think if they are willing to, our starting Def, could look like this.
Peppers Wilfork Bunkley Coles
Samuel Weatherspoon/ Bradley Witherspoon Brown
Bowman
Mikell Kerry Rhodes/Antonio Bethea
" AK 47! When you absolutely, positively have to kill every muthafucka in the room! Except no substitute." Samuel L Jackson- Jackie Brown
"You know what you should do United Nations? You should sanction me. Sanctiom me with your army! Oh, wait a minute! You ain't got an army! Guess that means you need to shut the fuck up! That's what I would do if I didn't have an army. I would shut the fuck up! Shut...The...Fuck...Up!!!" Black Bush
Also...
How are they going to draft Weatherspoon and Bowman while also signing/trading for one of Kerry Rhodes or Antoine Bethea?
This is the NFL… not Madden.
No I meant either Weatherspoon or Bowman
I know they can’t get both, but In an uncapped year, if they really want to make that push, it is not outside the realm of possibility to get both Wilfork and Peppers
" AK 47! When you absolutely, positively have to kill every muthafucka in the room! Except no substitute." Samuel L Jackson- Jackie Brown
"You know what you should do United Nations? You should sanction me. Sanctiom me with your army! Oh, wait a minute! You ain't got an army! Guess that means you need to shut the fuck up! That's what I would do if I didn't have an army. I would shut the fuck up! Shut...The...Fuck...Up!!!" Black Bush
by Talon Talent on Feb 14, 2010 12:58 AM EST up reply actions
It’s pretty darn close to being outside the realm of possibility… it’s sounding like teams aren’t going to spend any more than they have been, or do anything outrageous just because there’s no cap. The Steelers said they’re going to make moves as if there is a cap and I expect good organizations like the Eagles to do the same.
That is a very valid point
I would expect the Eagles to maintain the business side of things, however… If they keep McNabb and decide to make one more push towards the superbowl before putting the team into the untested hands of Kolb, I think it behooves them to open up their purses this year and really build up our defense to the best it can be. In essence try to buy the superbowl. I’m not saying they will. I’m not saying they can. But I would at least like them to explore the possibilty. Believe me, I love how our front office keeps the cap under control, but if they decide to go the other route, I am all for that too and am certain that they will be able to do it responsibly.
" AK 47! When you absolutely, positively have to kill every muthafucka in the room! Except no substitute." Samuel L Jackson- Jackie Brown
"You know what you should do United Nations? You should sanction me. Sanctiom me with your army! Oh, wait a minute! You ain't got an army! Guess that means you need to shut the fuck up! That's what I would do if I didn't have an army. I would shut the fuck up! Shut...The...Fuck...Up!!!" Black Bush
by Talon Talent on Feb 15, 2010 7:10 AM EST up reply actions
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