Denver Broncos Fire Head Coach Josh McDaniels
by JasonB on Dec 6, 2010 7:12 PM EST
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Could Josh McDaniel's two years in Denver go down as the worst head coaching reign in NFL history? Of all the failed former Belichick assistants to get head coaching jobs, he's got to be the worst.
The Denver Broncos announced today that they’ve fired their head coach, Josh McDaniels, just two years after hiring him away from the Patriots. McDaniels’ tenure in Denver has been marked mostly by losing and mind boggling personnel moves. I can’t say as though I’m surprised… Just this past week in our NFL power rankings I asked, "Is Josh McDaniels the worst coach in the NFL right now? Seriously, Wade Phillips is gone. It may be true."
Then when I was making my week 13 picks, I said "I’m not sure if there’s a coach I have less faith in than Josh McDaniels." So yeah, I wasn’t a fan. Of course, I didn't like him the moment he spent way over the market to bring Brian Dawkins to Denver... After the jump, take a look at the damage McDaniels did in just two years.
In just two years, McDaniels traded away his franchise QB Jay Cutler(not totally his fault), used essentially a first round pick on CB Alphonso Smith only to give up on him a year later and send him to Detroit where he’s actually played well, mortgaged the teams future to move into the first round for Tim Tebow, and finally traded Peyton Hillis(one of the best backs in the NFL this year) for Brady Quinn. The last one really is a head scratcher when you couple it with the Tebow pick.
[Note by JasonB, 12/06/10 9:32 PM EST ] This is only a small capsule of the disaster he's been for Denver. Check out rajav's comment for the stunning list of missteps and misdeeds. My favorite is making his little brother, whose experience was as a high school QB for 3 years, QB coach of the Broncos.
All of that would be excusable if he simply won games… but he doesn’t. Then to cap off his disastrous reign as head coach he’s involved in Spygate part two where the exact same guy who got the Patriots in trouble for filming practices does the same thing for McDaniels. The guy fell on the sword and McDaniels claims he never watched the tape, but how on earth can he justify hiring the guy in the first place? So yeah, I’d say firing him was a pretty good idea.
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Could Josh McDaniel’s two years in Denver go down as the worst head coaching reign in NFL history?</blockquote
Well, Jim Mora only lasted a year in Seattle…
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
What a dumbass.
He can’t even get coding right.
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
by Imp on Dec 6, 2010 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
Up next:
Marvin Lewis
John Fox
Andy Reid (if EB gets his wish)
Jack Del Rio (possibly)
Jason Peters: Heart of a Lion, Face of a Chipmunk.
I live in Jax for school and Jax fans are done with Del Rio
But him and Garrard keep having miracles that justify saving their jobs to their ownership. I think Jon Gruden is long for Denver. If Marvin Lewis isn’t fired, someone is being way to politically correct. I personally think Andy will be the longest reigning coach next yr as I think Jeff Fisher wants the Carolina or possibly San Diego job.
I agree that Fisher won't be with the Titans next year
I heard that owner Bud Adams is still a big Vince Young fan and that it’s either going to be Fisher or Young leaving Tennessee. I think this season was enough end the Jeff Fisher era in Tennessee.
Vick will go Bad Newz Kennels on that shitass secondary. - EvilBanner
by Baron Dainer Von Tresvant on Dec 6, 2010 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
After the season we are having this year.
I dont think EB will get his wish. I thought for sure we would be an 8 and 8 team this year. Hell based on all the changes we had this year I thought 8 and 8 was pushing it.
I know it won’t happen. That’s why i said if EB gets his wish, which he wont.
Jason Peters: Heart of a Lion, Face of a Chipmunk.
Oh i know bro
I had to throw that out there though. Im waiting for EB to jump all over me . But really, Im glad we have Big Red when you know theres team reckers like McDaniels out there.
I thought for sure we would be an 8 and 8 team this year.
Don’t tempt fate man.
by captain nodar on Dec 6, 2010 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
i totally agree with marvin lewis. If he’s not gone after this year, then the bengals truly don’t care about winning.`
I can't hate on Reid this year.
If the Michael Vick resurrection is in any way attributable to Reid’s coaching, Reid the coach has to stay. Reid the GM has to go. He is fucking disgraceful. This defense is much worse than the win-loss record lets on. Vick has saved Reid.
"Andy Reid is a huge fraud"--EJ from 97.5
Reid's personnel decisions
beat his game-day coaching by a mile.
They just freakin’ rebuilt an NFCCG team without dropping below 9 wins. We quibble with certain moves — OL, LBs, CB — but on the whole the personnel stuff has been really good the past few years when you consider that they turned over the entire roster. One more good draft/offseason could address the remaining weaknesses.
Reid’s weakness to me is not command of the locker room or game week prep or personnel, it’s adjusting to what happens mid-game and fixing it in time to not lose. And of course clock management.
Even an unabashed Reid hater, I find it hard to believe you think the personnel dept. on his watch has been bad on the whole.
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Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Dec 6, 2010 8:29 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Reid’s weakness to me is not command of the locker room or game week prep or personnel, it’s adjusting to what happens mid-game and fixing it in time to not lose. And of course clock management.
This statement is the most true statement in the history of true statements stated.
Jason Peters: Heart of a Lion, Face of a Chipmunk.
by DickMuffin on Dec 6, 2010 8:33 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I agee totally
The things Reid is very good at, such as what you mentioned, are the least visible to fans as well. This is why I think some people hate on Reid. He makes these bone headed mid game decisions, but his teams would never be in the opportunity to win as many games (making those decisions critical) unless he prepared them as well as he does and constructed teams as well as he does.
Reid’s strengths are the more hidden variety, but ultimately they are the more influential to the teams performance than what people actually see on TV every week.
I have to think Reid has had a huge effect of Vick
Reid got his name as QB coach at GB, and in my opinion made McNabb into what he was. Not that Donavan wasn’t talented, but made him a very good quarterback overall. It would be a very odd coincidence that he didn’t have the same effect tutoring Vick.
Funny you should mention
Was just making a list the other day:
McDaniels
Norv Turner (SD must stop underachieving before its too late)
John Fox (only because time’s run out in Carolina; he should get another job)
Marvin Lewis (same; he might work again if someone else handles personnel)
Really almost everyone else bad is safe.
Cleveland is going to save Mangini’s job again.
This is Whisenhunt’s first bad year in Arizona, because they didn’t re-sign any of his good players.
Detroit just started with Schwartz and Buffalo just hired Gailey.
Dallas and Minn. already dropped the axe.
I think the other guy in danger is Kubiak. Not because the Texans are bad but because NFL teams frequently fire their coaches for not making enough progress.
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Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
Norv Turner (SD must stop underachieving before its too late)
I’d really love to see Phillip Rivers be able lead a team to a SB, assuming its not against the eagles. The bonus side of Rivers winning the SB’s to show he’s great (to the main stream media at least) is that it makes the way the giants got Eli look even more laughable
except that eli somehow...someway... did manage to win a SB in ny
"Hit em low, hit em high and watch the Redskins cry"
Yep
3+ years after Eli. Damn that trade!
"Stop the run to earn the right to rush the passer"- great philosophy from new SU DLine coach Jimmy Brumbaugh.
by bigbluethruandthru on Dec 7, 2010 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
um...I agree with you Jason
he made mortal enemy out of me when he signed the Eagles God known as Brian Dawkins away. Screw him, I hope he gets hired by a college team like Jacksonville University (FL) or something equally pathetic.
I think you blame all of the Cutler fiasco on him. That would never have happened if he didn’t say that he would of liked to bring in Matt Cassell.
I think he could still be a good HC I just wouldn’t give him control over personnel like he had in Denver. He had Cutler, Marshall, Hillis and traded all three of them away, if they had all three of those guys they probably would have a more respectable record and Josh would still have his job, he also let Mike Nolan go.
With Josh leaving I wonder if Tebow gets moved to h-back by there next head coach?
well, even if he handled that situation like a two year old, I think Orton has played way better than Cutler. the one move I just can’t fit in my head is the Alphonso Smith trade. Spending a first round pick on a corner, who was thought of as a developmental player, then trading him for a practice squad TE, after just sending your own TE (scheffler, sp?) to the same team?!?!
I mean, unless the kid was on drugs and they didn’t disclose it, or was a phsyco or something I have no idea was the hell was going through his head
Remember when the Broncos started out 6-0 with him last year?
Haha.
Oh, and here’s a funny video of Alphonso Smith.
Project Donolulu - Vote Donovan McNabb for the 2011 Pro Bowl so that the Eagles can get a better draft pick -> http://www.nfl.com/probowl/ballot
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Dec 6, 2010 7:36 PM EST reply actions
Josh McDaniels timeline
courtesy of joshmcdaniels.com
1. Despite inheriting a team ranked 2nd in the NFL in total offense in 2008, McDaniels fires all of Denver’s offensive assistant coaches except running backs coach, Bobby Turner, and offensive line coach, Rick Dennison. McDaniels’ decision to fire quarterbacks coach, Jeremy Bates, particularly irks quarterback Jay Cutler who had passed for 4,526 yards and 25 touchdowns and made the Pro Bowl with Bates as his position coach in 2008.
2. McDaniels attempts to trade Cutler and acquire New England quarterback, Matt Cassel, in 3 team deal that would have sent Cutler to Tampa Bay. McDaniels fails to complete the trade and Cassel is traded to AFC West rival, Kansas City
McDaniels convinces Pat Bowlen to fire general manager Jim Goodman and co-assistant general manager Jeff Goodman and promote 38 year old Brian Xanders from co-assistant general manager to general manager.
As free agency begins, the Denver Broncos sign veteran New England long snapper, Lonie Paxton, to a 5 year, $5.5M contract that includes a $1M signing bonus. The deal makes Paxton the 2nd highest paid long snapper in the NFL
Prior to the start of the regular season, Denver signs or trades for 4 additional former New England players, Brandon Gorin, Russ Hochstein, LaMont Jordan, and LeKevin Smith, bringing the total number of former Patriots added to the Broncos by McDaniels to 6. Of the 6 players, only Jabar Gaffney and Lonie Paxton make worthwile contributions to the team during the 2009 season
Broncos trade Cutler and a 2009 5th round draft pick to the Chicago Bears for quarterback Kyle Orton, 1st and 3rd round picks in 2009 and a 1st round pick in 2010.
McDaniels trades Denver’s 2010 1st round pick to Seattle to select diminutive Wake Forest cornerback Alphonso Smith in the 2nd round (37th overall), and Denver’s 3rd round pick (79th overall) and the 3rd round pick (84th overall) Denver received in the Cutler trade from Chicago to Pittsburgh to select one-dimensional, blocking tight end Richard Quinn in the 2nd round (64th overall). Denver also received Pittsburgh’s 4th round pick (132nd overall) in the latter deal, which it used to select Iowa guard Seth Olsen.
As a result, Seattle received the No. 14 overall pick in this year’s draft and selected Texas safety Earl Thomas, a player NFL Network analyst Mike Mayock labeled the best pure, instinctive football player in the 2010 draft.
On the Friday before the team’s must win game to keep its playoff chances alive vs. Kansas City, McDaniels announces that Marshall and Scheffler will be not be active for the game as a result of the players’ poor attitudes. McDaniels is widely criticized for publicly questioning the legitimacy of Marshall’s hamstring injury.
The Broncos and defensive coordinator Mike Nolan "mutually agree to part ways." The shocking move comes after a season in which Nolan’s presence increased the team’s ranking in total defense from No. 29 in 2008 to No. 7 in 2009, and improved the Broncos from a Defense-adjusted Value Over Average (DVOA) of 24.7% in 2008 to -7.9% in 2009
McDaniels promotes his younger brother, Ben, to quarterbacks coach. Before being hired by the Broncos last year as an offensive assistant, the 30 year old Ben McDaniels’ coaching experience consisted of 3 years coaching quarterbacks at the high school level in Ohio and 2 years as a graduate assistant at the of Minnesota.
Despite McDaniels stating that he planned to expand Peyton Hillis’ role in the offense in 2010, the popular running back was traded to Cleveland for Brady Quinn.
As anticipated for months, McDaniels trades Pro Bowl wideout Brandon Marshall to Miami for a second round draft pick in 2010 and 2011.
After trading down twice in the first round of the 2010 NFL draft to select Demaryius Thomas (WR, Georgia Tech), McDaniels blows the extra picks Denver accumulated in such trades and shocks the NFL world by moving back into the first round to select former Florida Gators quarterback Tim Tebow.
The Broncos trade cornerback Alphonso Smith to Detroit for the Lions fourth string tight end, Dan Gronkowski. Gronkowski was Detroit’s 7th round (255th overall) pick in 2009.
Who's Been Eatin' Hummus?
She passed wind, excused herself, and sponged off in the corner as I sat dazed and confused...
by rajav on Dec 6, 2010 7:53 PM EST reply actions 11 recs
Wow, he was a dumbass.
I have limited “GM” knowledge and even I could run a team better than him.
1.The Cutler/Cassell attempted move was just plain out retarded.
2.He did come out like a bandit with the Cutler/Orton + an assload of picks trade.
3.Too bad he wasted all those great picks.
4.Everybody knew that Quinn sucked balls, obviously not Mcdermy.
5.Who would’ve known that Hillis was such a beast though.
6.Passing on Dez Bryant for Thomas (who can’t run routes for shit) was an asshat move.
7.Trading Marshall was an asshat move.
8.Trading Scheffler for shit was pretty gay.
9.Fuck Tim Tebow.
Jason Peters: Heart of a Lion, Face of a Chipmunk.
9. Trading Scheffler for shit was pretty gay.
Project Donolulu - Vote Donovan McNabb for the 2011 Pro Bowl so that the Eagles can get a better draft pick -> http://www.nfl.com/probowl/ballot
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Dec 6, 2010 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
Oops. Meant to also write: “But helped us acquire Ernie Sims for only a 5th, so it helped us.”
Project Donolulu - Vote Donovan McNabb for the 2011 Pro Bowl so that the Eagles can get a better draft pick -> http://www.nfl.com/probowl/ballot
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Dec 6, 2010 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
In McDaniels' defense...
…his drafting Tebow in the first round won me $30. So I can’t be all mad at the guy.
Let the beasting begin.
by TransplantedFan on Dec 7, 2010 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
The craziest thing about it...
Is that reading over at Mile High Report, there are a TON of Broncos fans who think that this dunce was a good head coach and deserved another year.
I would tend to agree with JasonB in the original post that hiring his brother, after a few years as a QB coach at the high school level, to coach in the NFL was a big indicator of the type of head coach McDaniels was going to be. He’s just the sort of smarmy, glad-handing sycophant that Bellicheck tends to choose as assistants, and was doing everything he could to surround himself with past supporters and “yes-men” as soon as he got to Denver.
It’s easy to point to the lousy trades he made and the lack of talent on the field for the Broncos, but I think McDaniels did just as much damage to the coaching staff – he basically purged the entire front office, and brought in a boatload of half-assed assistants who wouldn’t question his terrible decisions. It will take years for the franchise to recover from how badly he’s screwed them up.
by licensetochill on Dec 7, 2010 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
could he have been an insurgant sent in by SD?
by h2o_34_35_44 on Dec 7, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
It's possible
so don’t rule it out at all.
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Can Abbrederis shoot the long three and effectively distribute the ball to his big men?
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Dec 7, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
He set the Broncos back a few years
Who's Been Eatin' Hummus?
She passed wind, excused herself, and sponged off in the corner as I sat dazed and confused...
No doubt about that
Trade the franchise QB, most talented WR and lose 17 of 22 … was definitely a bad run.
He definitely deserved to be fired and wore out his welcome. He definitely had an effect on the franchise beyond just bad coaching, but at least it was over quickly, so not sure I agree it was worst reign ever. I guess we’ll find out based on if the Broncos recover, and it certainly looks worse when you consider they fired Shanahan for this guy.
I think he’ll work again in the NFL though. Players seem to enjoy playing for him.
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Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
Its funny I thought he had the WORST off season EVER his first year as a HC
but that all quieted down when he started off hot…
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
Worst in History?
How about Rich Kotite? It took longer but he really drove Buddy’s team into the ground.
Cowboys suck.
I Hated Kotite as Much as Anyone
But I blame Braman as much as him.
I'm not drunk I'm just drinking.
by no1pipelayer on Dec 6, 2010 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
Actually, blame Harry Gamble
Supposedly, Braman wanted to hire Jeff Fisher. But Harry Gamble talked him out of it and convinced him to hire Rich Kotite.
Vick will go Bad Newz Kennels on that shitass secondary. - EvilBanner
by Baron Dainer Von Tresvant on Dec 6, 2010 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
There's a lot of blame to be placed
Between Braman, Kotite, and Harry Gamble. They were the holy trinity of suck.
Vick will go Bad Newz Kennels on that shitass secondary. - EvilBanner
by Baron Dainer Von Tresvant on Dec 7, 2010 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
Yep
They never spent a dime as the greatest defense in history to never win a championship simply crumbled. A bunch of them walked via free agency too.
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Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
well
we been rebuiling since 99 in my opinton the videotapeing had a lot to do with it great OC bad people person i will decaie this in my peter king wring up this wed or thr
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What is the worst decision Andy Reid has made in his career?
Becuase I can probably name you 4 more worse decisions that McDaniels has made
Who's Been Eatin' Hummus?
She passed wind, excused herself, and sponged off in the corner as I sat dazed and confused...
Signing Mike McMahon to be McNabb's backup in 05 or drafting Freddie Mitchell
McMahon may not be the worst but that was the first one to pop into my head
Admittedly, I thought Mike McMahon was a decent choice as a backup QB
I also forget who was available as backup QB that year, so I’m not going to get on Reid’s case for that one.
Vick will go Bad Newz Kennels on that shitass secondary. - EvilBanner
by Baron Dainer Von Tresvant on Dec 7, 2010 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
When Andrews played, he was a beast
I do think he legitimately has back problems, in addition to head problems.
Vick will go Bad Newz Kennels on that shitass secondary. - EvilBanner
by Baron Dainer Von Tresvant on Dec 7, 2010 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
I find it hard to call the Shawn Andrews pick a mistake. The only mistake we made with him was holing out hope for too long that he would come back 100% A-OK from his injuries/issues.
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RIP Fran Crippen
Worst decision? Not kidnapping Kurt Warner before 08 NFCCG
No way Leinart would have been able to read all those JJ blitzes.
Then we beat the Steelers in the SB, McNabb is QB for life and the Vick era never happens. Wait …
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Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
I’ve hated that prick ever since he got the Denver job. In two years, I don’t know if another head coach could’ve done any worse. Glad to see him get what he deserved.
by Route36 on Dec 6, 2010 9:45 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I really wanted to post a pic of his dumb face introducing Dawkins in Denver, but that would have violated our long standing rule against Dawkins in Broncos jersey pics.
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RIP JJ
by sports00fan00 on Dec 6, 2010 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
McDaniels the worst? Negative.
Hailing from the Niners Nation – we have an inept motivator who doesn’t understand play calling, strategy, or anything apart from “I need to look at the film”. Mike Singletary has become a disappointment for a 49er squad projected to manhandle the NFC Worst (west), and game after game, he is determined to dish out the same ol’ stuff that any opponent coach could pick up on in 15 minutes. It’s turning into a predictable horror movie.
If McDaniels was that bad of a cancer to be removed from Denver (good for them), Singletary is an even bigger tumor that simply won’t be cut.
Best of luck to you guys – take the East.
The line must be drawn HERE...
I agree that Singletary hasn’t lived up to expectations but I would still take him over McDaniels. It’s not like Singletary came in and traded away Patrick Willis, Frank Gore, and Vernon Davis lol. He’s also had some good pick ups and draft picks, he just hasn’t been able to put it all together. Singletary > McDaniels imo.
My only regret...
Is that we didn’t get an opportunity to take advantage of him in a draft day trade.
I'm not drunk I'm just drinking.
by no1pipelayer on Dec 6, 2010 11:53 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
How about the calvacade of crap Matt Millen rolled out?
There was also the single year that Cam Cameron had for the 1-15 Dolphins.
Bobby Petrino may not have been the worst coach but he was totally the worst human.
Jim Mora Jr?
Somebody already threw out Lane Kiffin’s name, but I second the motion.
I would throw Zorn on this list, but Shanahan is making him look like a goddamn genius.
Then there was Scott Linehan for the Rams.
How about someone who has coached the Bills recently? I mean, seriously, just pick.
Anybody got some? Mine are all fairly recent vintage. I’m also thinking about Steve Spurrier, but again, new regime is making me question that.
Let the beasting begin.
by TransplantedFan on Dec 7, 2010 12:36 AM EST reply actions
In defense of McDaniels
Before you go into a Tourette’s style swearing tirade and unintelligible comments like my coworker in Denver, there were a fair amount of moves that he made that really weren’t that bad:
- Attempting to trade Cutler in order to get Cassel. At well as Cutler has played this year at times, Cassel is having one of the best years of any QB in the NFL. McDaniels’ saw how Cassel performed that season when Brady went down and his teammates really responded to him & his leadership. Personally, I would rather have Cassel as the Eagles’ QB than Cutler.
- Broncos trade Cutler and a 2009 5th round draft pick to the Chicago Bears for quarterback Kyle Orton, 1st and 3rd round picks in 2009 and a 1st round pick in 2010.
Cutler may have been the ‘franchise QB’ but they got not only a credible NFL starter in return at QB but also a huge haul in high-value draft picks. The boneheaded part has been McDaniels’ inept job as a GM.
- As anticipated for months, McDaniels trades Pro Bowl wideout Brandon Marshall to Miami for a second round draft pick in 2010 and 2011.
Marshall is a piece of shit. This is a guy who has been consistently in trouble with the law since his college days at UCF. There was a really good reason he got suspended for 3-games in ‘08 for his numerous off-field activites. He is also a ’wife beater’ who had numerous repeated run-ins with the law the past few years. He also had other off-the-field issues including the hilarious BS incident where he where ‘slipped on a McDonald’s bag’ and just happened to accidentally had his had go through a TV while ‘wrestling with relatives.’ Sure whatever you say.
As for his on-field antics, he is immensely talented but he is also injury-prone too. McDaniels also isn’t the only coach he had issues with too. He was in Shanahan’s dog house too much of the time in ‘07-’08 and had issues with other coaches on the Broncos’ staff during that time about practicing hard and putting in PT while he was injured.
I don’t blame McDaniels at all for trading Marshall who while he is arguably the best WR in the NFL is an injury-prone basketcase who is a constant problem on-and-off the field. The only solution to deal with a problem like that long-term is to win. If not, he quickly wears out this welcome.
McDaniels biggest issue was that he didn’t seem to know what direction he really wanted to take the team and was standoffish with a number of staff/players. That crap doesn’t fly in what is really a player’s league. Didn’t help himself with his two drafts at all either but trading Cutler and Marshall for what he got really weren’t poor moves.
I don't think he should have gotten fired.
There are more issues with this team then the coach. Were their bad moves made? Yes. Were they all the coaches fault? No.
This team kept Shanny around for how many years after having 1 playoff win and times not even making the playoffs? Yet they don’t even give this guy 2 full seasons after trading their starting QB & one of the top WRs in the league? What did they expect?
Furthermore
Decision to trade a franchise QB wasn’t only McDaniels’. I’m sure that in these situations the entire organization agrees on making the move. If you look at the performances for the past two seasons, Kyle Orton became a really good QB and more then just a game manager, while Jay Cutler is…well stil Jay Cutler. I know he destroyed us this year, but otherwise he single-handedly lost a bunch of games last year( at least the ones I’ve seen) and most of the time wasn’t helping his D this year. In no way would Bears be 9-3 without the stellar performance of their D. So the move in itself wasn’t bad. I think he tried to do too much in a very short period.
Plus putting trade of Peyton Hillis on the line with Cutler and Marshall trade is a bit rediciulous. Before this year most of NFL fans didn’t even know who he was and no one could predict that Hillis would blossome, but don’t forget that he can actually be jus a one year wonder.
The real boneheaded move that doesn’t make any sense what-so-ever is a trade of Alphonso Smith for Dan Gronkowski. I mean they swept 37th pick for 255th pick. REALLY??? Again McDaniels wasn’t the only one who supported this trade, so there are a few boneheaded people in that organization.
I want to add that I am in no way a fan of McDaniels, people just going crazy with calling him a worst HC in the history etc. Honestly I think he wanted to show that he got balls , that he is a visionary guy and can make some big crazy changes, which will payoff long-term and get a team to PO without big stars. But he failed big time and in my opinion Alphonso Smith move really highlights his lack of experience and his youth in NFL.
Why is it that people actually belive McDaniels when he said he never watched the tape?
“Yeah Mom, this weed is mine, but Im not smoking it, I swear…”
Why is it that people actually belive McDaniels when he said he never watched the tape?
For sympathy reason. Niners dropped 21 points in fourth quarter is bad enough, but if he used Spygate and still lose, he would look like even more of a dumbass. We all like to think people aren’t that dumb.
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
by Imp on Dec 7, 2010 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
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