Bears = Overrated?

Don’t know why I included the Giants with the Packers, I guess I was already thinking about writing how the Eagles beat them

was 5-4

I know they don’t count in the stat book, but you have to look at those two TD drops, also. You factor those in, and Vick had a very respectable game against a good D.

Bears fan have this delusion that the Giants “shut down” Vick.

By ‘shut down’, I think hope they mean contain. The Giants ‘contained’ Vick, but only to a reasonable extent.

they lucked out by having an easy schedual…… they have a super easy division this year minus the packers who i also feel are extremely over rated….. like the post said they have no respectful wins besides the packers which was a huge fluke…… i hate to admit it but i feel the giants defense is pretty damn good and we lucked out that game with all those turnovers ……. if ANYTHING it will be a similar repeat of that last game, the bears offense will turn over the ball an easy 3 times its just up to our offense to not have any missed opertunites and to capitalize off of their mistakes…… and to not get too cocky cuz we did get upset by the bears like 2 years ago and their record and team was alot worse :-/

I wouldn’t be so emphatic that they’re overrated if their fans took more of this approach.

They talk as if they’re the best team in football, and that we’re just another easy stepping stone on their way to a guaranteed NFC Championship appearance.

If they spoke the truth, I’d be more open to dialogue.

The truth:

-we are the best team they’ve faced this year.
-we are the BY FAR the most potent offense they’ve faced this year.
-we already put up 27 points on a defense better than theirs.
-we’ve proven ourselves against good opponents

The fact is…this is a test case game for them. Nobody knows how good the Bears really are. 5 of their 7 wins have come against teams with losing records, and a 6th win came against a .500 team. Sure, they beat the Packers, but they lost to the Seahawks.

Could they win? Yup. But they really should be going into this as though this is the biggest test they’ve had…not another easy game

Their fans are kindred spirits…they’re tough, they hail from a blue-collar town, they love good defense, and they damn sure know how to tailgate. There, karma solved lol.

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don’t worry, Bears fans have done enough to counter our arrogance. They claimed that Philly fans beat a man to death, that Philly fans are the worst in sports, that DeSean isn’t that fast, that Knox and Hester are more explosive than Jackson and Maclin, that Idonije is better than Trent Cole, that Greg Olsen is somehow comparable to Kenny Britt and that the Eagles defense is as good as a pile of poop (or something of that nature, specifics, I don’t remember them). They also said the Eagles are beating up on a weak schedule and that Trent Cole isn’t nearly as good as Julius Peppers. And they guaranteed that Hester takes one to the house.

And that just what I can remember. Bears fans have done more than enough to have karma knocking on their door. Plus they once blinded a Steelers fan for being a Steelers fan. Great fans aren’t they?

relatively contained Peppers in the first game of the season last year when he was with Carolina.

Justice was not supposed to start that game, that was Shawn’s spot. We were worried to death that Peppers would abuse him! That didn’t happen. Peppers did get a sack and a FF….but that was essentially Winston’s second start of his career in a game that he was supposed to be simply a backup.

I’d say Winston’s gotten better since that day, and Peppers is either the same or declining. His 5 sacks in 10 games aren’t exactly intimidating, though I’m hesitant to take much away from his ability.

And if they line Peppers up on the other side, which they do sometimes (in fact this is one reason Bears fans give as to why Peppers is better than Cole…he’s has the ‘versatility’ to play both sides of the line…I don’t think the know enough to understand that Cole moves to LB sometimes, and also jumps into coverage…but that’s another story), but if they do line Peppers up on Peters, that doesn’t frighten me at all. Peters is elite, despite the weekly false start.

and the Bears secondary is worse than the Giants…

Their defense relies on the outside pass rush, and great LB play to cover the secondary.

a win is a win regardless of who it is.

Most Eagles fan were saying this the first 16 weeks of last season. Then the Eagles get annihilated by Dallas in back to back games, 58-14 over the course of two games.

Not saying that Bears will get killed by the Eagles, but that isn’t the greatest thinking approach when coming to wins.

Giants, Indy, Jax, Atlanta

you have 1.

All wins are not created equal, and I know you’re worried deep down, because we were in that EXACT position last year. We finished 11-5, but everyone pointed to our schedule. We argued that we could only play the teams on our schedule, but all of our losses came against playoff teams (except Oak), and our wins came at the expense of the weak.

We tried to ignore it, but when it finally came crashing down, none of us were surprised. Deep down we knew it was coming, and you do to.

Giants have the #2 pass defense, 192 yards per game. Vick was 24-38-258-0-0 and 11-34-1 rushing.
Colts have the #8 pass defense, 207 yards per game. Vick was 17-29-218-1-0 and 10-74-1 rushing.
Lions have the #18 pass defense, 224 yards per game. Vick was 21-34-284-2-0 and 8-37 rushing.
Packers have the #12 pass defense, 211 yards per game. Vick was 16-24-175-1-0 and 11-103 rushing in just part of a game.

The Bears have the #13 pass defense, 212 yards per game.

From this, I conclude that either a) you don’t think Vick was all that great over those four games where he averaged a 96.7 passer rating and 62 yards rushing, or b) you think defenses from 2-18 are weak and therefore the Bears defense is also weak, or c) you just don’t bother to look stuff up before you spew crap.

among NFC North fans who favor the capslock key