From a football fan and dog lover
by colt_monger on Nov 16, 2010 8:40 AM EST
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I am a Colts fan and also a dog rescue worker...
Something many people do not know is that before the Mike Vick inccident only special interest groups took any real interest and action to stop dog fighting rings. Since Mike Vick did his time and publicly came out to condemn his own actions things have changed. With his public support of animal activist groups a new awareness has swept the nation. Law inforcement around the country is more aware of this crime than EVER before. Police everywhere are now investigating dog fighting rings that before Vick would never have even been thought of. His play on the field only adds to his fame which in turn spot lights dog fighting crimes even more. A man who turns from a crime is in the best position to fight it. I love dogs and work to help them. And while I hated what Mike did, I love what he is DOING. I understand the emotions many have over this subject but there is a very very positive side to all that has happened. Mike Vick, if he contiues his efforts on AND OFF the field may well do more to stop the cruel practice of dog fighting more than anyone else ever has.
P.S. Good luck to all you Philly fans the rest of the way. Oh, and pray for my injury depleted Colts, I would love to meet you again in the Super Bowl --Manning Vs Vick = AWESOME!!
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Kudos...
…some people don’t know how to forgive. Those are the people who have never made a mistake in their lives. ;-)
Anyway, about the rest of your post. I have to disagree. We beat Peyton last game, BUT I DO NOT WANT ANY PARTS OF HIM FOR A SUPERBOWL TITLE so I can’t hope to see you there! LMAO
Has anyone ever...
…said “Well, you have a Superbowl ring, but you only beat ________!”?
It doesnt matter who you beat when it comes to a Superbowl.
Rather see Manning than Brady.
Because that would mean facing Belichik. You know just what the Colts’ D will do, but not the Pats.
"What a gorgeous dog. What do you feed him?"
You
have a great team and obviously some great fans, too. I agree with your post, and I hope like hell that his turnaround is for real with regards to his lifestyle. And I do NOT want to play against the Colts in the SB -for the same reason QWEST listed. PM is the best QB in recent memory. Maybe Vick can challenge that for a few seasons, but the Great Peyton has the long-term career that Vick sacrificed with his mistakes.
my dog jackson....
would not like this dog fighting thing… but he would be willing to forgive him (vick)…. i am not so sure… i am less concerned with the crime than the lack of simple ability to empathize that it shows… a person who dosen’t comprehend the pain he’s causing in a defenseless animal is suspect in my book… i want to believe he’s changed and i think on some level he has but i still question what kind of person he really is… nevertheless, he’s a great player and deserves respect for that.
by Elmo the faithful fan on Nov 16, 2010 11:57 AM EST reply actions
your book is unreadable...
until you can use some kind of punctuation other than three periods… and proper use of capitol letters never killed anyone… i don’t mind mistakes… but you’re not even trying.
Ithaca has given you the beautiful journey.
Without her you would not have set out on the road.
Nothing more has she got to give you.
And if you find her threadbare, Ithaca has not deceived you.
Wise as you have become, with so much experience,
you must already have understood what Ithacas mean.
-cavafy
I think pretty much everything that’s been said about this has been said. Either an Eagles fan can accept Vick on their team, with varying degrees of difficulty for each fan, or can’t, and then has to decide to continue to root for the team during what looks like it will be a much longer tenure than probably any of us imaged.
But, nice post, and not what I expected at all when I saw the title.
(HT to Igglesblog)
by BrianS on Nov 16, 2010 4:07 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Honestly I'm a big big animal person, probably rival that of Sims...
(1) I worked at a vet and I’m training to be a dog groomer, I love dogs, they are my favorite things ever..
(2) Vick did something that was wrong. However he’s done EVERYTHING right since then..
1 + 2 = 3 which is People can be fucking dumb if they choose, he’s my teams QB I dont care if he eats a poodle on the field if he put up 6 TD’s a game.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
"Please notice the difference and proceed to suck your own tiny ass cock. Secondly, A simulator shows how things COULD go, not WOULD.. Once again bend in half and do the deed.." From me.. To CNCITINFO.
Honestly I’m a big big animal person, probably rival that of Sims…
Do you have a monkey? I think not!
Jason Peters: Heart of a Lion, Face of a Chipmunk.
Fuck Da Refs!!
I did a few years ago.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
"Please notice the difference and proceed to suck your own tiny ass cock. Secondly, A simulator shows how things COULD go, not WOULD.. Once again bend in half and do the deed.." From me.. To CNCITINFO.
Your girlfriend doesn’t count.
I hope I am wrong, but Kolb is a four-letter word.
by Cowboy KILLER on Nov 16, 2010 7:21 PM EST up reply actions
That's nice... I'm being serious.. My family has always been into animals.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
"Please notice the difference and proceed to suck your own tiny ass cock. Secondly, A simulator shows how things COULD go, not WOULD.. Once again bend in half and do the deed.." From me.. To CNCITINFO.
Just joking around.
I hope I am wrong, but Kolb is a four-letter word.
by Cowboy KILLER on Nov 16, 2010 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
We own a grooming salon for dogs and cats, I've worked at a vet for years etc etc..
sometimes lines get blurred down here in FLA, dont judge…
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
"Please notice the difference and proceed to suck your own tiny ass cock. Secondly, A simulator shows how things COULD go, not WOULD.. Once again bend in half and do the deed.." From me.. To CNCITINFO.
Oh I will judge, but only because I wish that I lived in Florida and was in possession of a monkey at one time in my life. You’re living the American dream, my friend.
Jason Peters: Heart of a Lion, Face of a Chipmunk.
Dude monkey's arent as cool as you think,
they live in giant families and normally they get depressed when they are alone, it’s sad really.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
"Please notice the difference and proceed to suck your own tiny ass cock. Secondly, A simulator shows how things COULD go, not WOULD.. Once again bend in half and do the deed.." From me.. To CNCITINFO.
burn.
"it's like i tell my ex-wife, i never drive faster than i can see, and besides it's all in the reflexes." -Jack Burton, Big trouble in little China
he’s my teams QB I dont care if he eats a poodle on the field if he put up 6 TD’s a game.
LOL… rec’d.. hilarious.
Thanks lol...
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
"Please notice the difference and proceed to suck your own tiny ass cock. Secondly, A simulator shows how things COULD go, not WOULD.. Once again bend in half and do the deed.." From me.. To CNCITINFO.
I won't support Vick
by wearing his jersey but I do think he deserves a second chance and I am sure as hell glad that he is getting it with the Eagles.
Cowboys suck.
This post makes no sense...
You want the Eagles to succeed with Vick and you think he deserves a second chance…but you could never support him or cheer him on. Seems a little hyporcritical…you can’t hold things against him because of his past and think he deserves a second chance.
You need to read what I said
he has my support in everyway except for me wearing his jersey.
Cowboys suck.
I think people would get the wrong idea
I don’t live in Philly and I think outside of Philly Vick is more dog killer than man repenting for his sins. No matter what he will always be associated with killing dogs and I think many people would see a person wearing a Vick jersey and see someone who is alright with that behavior. My respect is building for Vick and I personally forgive him but I haven’t forgotten what he has done.
Cowboys suck.
by stinkypants on Nov 18, 2010 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
Unless you're able to change people's minds by you wearing that jersey...
I live FAR from Philly and I know a lot of people that hate Vick because of the dogs. I am a very big animal supporter in my community and I believe that getting a Vick jersey will not only show my support for my team and Vick but also possibly change some of the closed minds about Vick.
I get it now.
Personally, I find him to be an inspiration, but I know he can still fail, and I would not seek out confrontations with people just to try to get them to open up their hearts. It’s none of my business, really.
"What a gorgeous dog. What do you feed him?"
Look it up
I was a Vick hater before he became an Eagle. When he signed last year, I was skeptical: “just another chapter in a thug’s life” was my take. I’m also a dog lover and own the sweetest Pit you’ll ever meet. I agree with colt_monger that Vick has shined a very bright light on a very dark crime. That said, this is something more.
There were a lot of fans who worshiped Vick when he was a bad guy and watched his fast and furious demise. Now they see him as a changed man. This is (and hopefully will continue to be) a story of redemption. The kind of story that causes people look inward and decide to make changes in themselves. That’s not as exciting as what we all marveled at last night, but it’s bigger. Much bigger. I’m proud to be a fan of Michael Vick…and I never thought I’d say that.
I love pit-bulls, and I love Vick too. I'm a complicated man.
by oldasquick on Nov 16, 2010 5:51 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Well stated
Ithaca has given you the beautiful journey.
Without her you would not have set out on the road.
Nothing more has she got to give you.
And if you find her threadbare, Ithaca has not deceived you.
Wise as you have become, with so much experience,
you must already have understood what Ithacas mean.
-cavafy
Great post
Thanks for your support of Vick. I believe he’s learned his lesson and hes working to better his image and make amends for his crimes. I hope he continues in the right path.
I hope I am wrong, but Kolb is a four-letter word.
There is no right path, Grasshopper
"What a gorgeous dog. What do you feed him?"
Not how you start, but how your finish or finishing.
This post is exactly on point. Unfortunately there are hypocrites who will never let go and forgive. Let GOD have it.
by Astley Pessoa III on Nov 17, 2010 11:17 AM EST reply actions
I assume your joking..
But I have seen the real horrific results of dog fighting and other abuses. It really is not a joking matter.
relax colty, don’t take things so srs on the internets. i’m the biggest dog lover i know. my boxer and great dane are currently drooling in a pitiful dog treat coma right now on their warm individual beds next to my desk. it used to be offensive to me that someone could not forgive another person like Vick, but now it’s just downright un-American and senseless. people love to be the contrarian. they think it makes them a hero. fuck em i say and worry about yourself and the pitfalls of contradiction that you avoid in your own life, not theirs. and at the same time, crack a joke at their expense. life is too short.
8 year olds, dude.
once an animal killer, always an animal killer
now excuse me while i go eat my bacon cheeseburger of downer cow and tortured pig.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Nov 18, 2010 9:21 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Have you ever
jumped on a wild pig, sunk your teeth into him, and orgastically drank his blood?
Well neither have I, but how great would that be?
"What a gorgeous dog. What do you feed him?"
Okay, not that I want to start a fight
But I just might.
So I am the bad guy for not forgiving Vick? I am the lowly scum of the earth because I don’t see fit to forgive a person who helped contribute to the meaningless torture and death of dogs? I am the the person wrong for thinking that a person shouldn’t get a shot at a multimillion dollar job after he wrecklessly and callously threw away his first opportunity? I am the dick because I resent the fact that if I funded a criminal organization that profited off the death of animals over state lines I would have a very real chance of being charged with a RICO crime and being sentenced to 20 years in prison but yet another athlete/famous person is let off with a pittance of a sentence?
I did not realize, that even though I have took it upon myself to consciously follow the laws of the land even with the opportunities to improve my life by committing crimes available to me, I am the person who is wrong here. My bad.
"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins
"There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." Bruce Lee
"This fucking game is over!" Chuck Bednarik
"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth" Mike Tyson
I totally get that Talon
When I think about what Vick did, it really disgusts me… but when I look back at my own past, I don’t know where I’d be if I wasn’t given A LOT of chances. I lost my license at 16, arrested twice by 18, went crazy in college, did the whole underage drinking and drugs. What was I thinking right? That is not who I am… at least not now. I learned, I grew and I can honestly say that 90% of the things I did, I wouldn’t do again.
Murder, rape… murdering animals even is unexcusable and I don’t think you have to forgive him. I don’t anyone should “HAVE TO” forgive him. He did a shitty thing. As long as he can live with himself and forgive himself that is all that really matters. His life doesn’t affect mine except on Sundays.
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
The young stuff, I get. I did a few stupid things as a kid, mainly stupid vandalism things. But when I became an adult I grew up. I realized that now all that stuff wasn’t something that I was gonna get a fine for but something I could be punished severely for. With Vick we weren’t talking about a 18 year old kid we were talking about a 27 year old supposed man with a multimillion dollar job.
Anyway, it’s really all for naught but I read some of these comments on all these posts and people are vilifying the people who are still pissed at him and I think that is the most unfair thing about all of this. People are lambasting the responses of people who still are upset with him for his actions as if they are the problem.
Look if you (directed generally here) can forgive the man because you truly think he has repented and not because he is playing good football, then bless you for your forgiving heart. I will not look at vick’s accomplishments on the field as if they make up for the terrible things he did.
"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins
"There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." Bruce Lee
"This fucking game is over!" Chuck Bednarik
"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth" Mike Tyson
by Talon Talent on Nov 18, 2010 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
I agree
If you don’t want to forgive him… who cares what other people think. Its not like you refuse to be an Eagles fan. You can think and feel however you want.
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
How can I argue with you? Your too damn sensible. lol
"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins
"There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." Bruce Lee
"This fucking game is over!" Chuck Bednarik
"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth" Mike Tyson
by Talon Talent on Nov 19, 2010 7:06 AM EST up reply actions
Get off your high horse
If you “grew up” at 20-23 and somebody else “grows up” at 28-30, wtf difference does it make?
Gee, you did a few stupid things as a kid?
Not being able to forgive a person is nothing to be proud of, Get It?
"What a gorgeous dog. What do you feed him?"
Do you see me gloating at all? Like I said if you want to forgive this man because you think he is genuinely remorseful and has done enough to make up for his past transgressions, then by all means do. But if all of sudden because he has our beloved Eagles as contender’s and so now you think is the right time to forgive him, that shit is gay. I haven’t forgiven him because I think he did way to little time and believe his remorse is only that he got caught. Hell he said himself that he would probably still be financing that operation if he wouldn’t have got caught.
Don’t sit there telling me to get off my high horse. There is no high horse for this situation. Vick got off light after committing a heinous act of cruelty and financing an illegal cross the state line organization. When I look down on him it is not because I am on a high horse but because he dug his own hole.
"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins
"There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." Bruce Lee
"This fucking game is over!" Chuck Bednarik
"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth" Mike Tyson
by Talon Talent on Nov 21, 2010 6:07 AM EST up reply actions
Anyway, so on your way out the Army huh? Glad to hear. What ya got in store for the after?
"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins
"There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." Bruce Lee
"This fucking game is over!" Chuck Bednarik
"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth" Mike Tyson
by Talon Talent on Nov 18, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I’m out of the Air Force in 2 months and then I’m moving back to Lancaster. I got a job in York that I start in February. Just looking forward to starting over I guess.
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
Oh Air Force? ummmm… Nah just playing. That’s good you already got a job lined up and ready to roll. Thanks for serving our country.
"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins
"There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." Bruce Lee
"This fucking game is over!" Chuck Bednarik
"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth" Mike Tyson
by Talon Talent on Nov 19, 2010 7:04 AM EST up reply actions
Vick is a changed man!
Really. Its amazing what $7 million dollars will make a guy do. I wonder how much goes to his handlers? Doesn’t matter, once he was a sadistic psycopath, now he’s Mother Terresa and Audie Murphy all in one! Ain’t America grand!
Just stay away from his birthday parties!
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