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McDermott: Starting Fokou An Attempt To Be More Physical

It was clear after watching the Eagles front seven get muscled around by the Redskins last week, that something had to be done. For Sean McDermott, one of those things involved a change at starter in the linebacking corps. Akeem Jordan was benched in favor of second year man Moise Fokou at SAM.

McDermott explained his reasoning for the change.

"Well, they're both good football players, but right now, I feel like we need a physical presence inside and Moise brings that to the table."

"He's a young player. He got some time for us last year. And then he's kept his nose to the grindstone. He's worked extremely hard on the field and off the field, and kept the right attitude. He's played well on special teams and that physical play that he brings to the table, he's done the same thing on special teams to this point."

He reiterated a number of times how he felt Fokou was going provide a more physical presence, but was a lack of physicality the main issue?

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"When you're talking about the run game, and this has happened to our defense in the past, if you look at '04 it happened at Pittsburgh, if you look at, I believe it was '08 it happened the first game against the New York Giants there. It's not a problem that we haven't gone through before and we're going to get it fixed, number one. And number two is, in the run game specifically, it comes down to technique and toughness, so we can work on both of those, and we're working on them this week. Technique needs to be right in order to play the run game the right way, and then we've got to have a physical presence up front with our front seven."

Finally, he was asked the question that I've seen a lot of people on this site asking... Is it frustrating to constantly be shuffling your linebacking corps?

"I think if you look around the NFL, you're going to find the same thing. Players play at different levels at different times. I'm not afraid to make a move, I'll sit here and say it. I'm not afraid to make a move. If I feel like somebody's better than the guy that's playing, then the guy that's behind him is going to play."

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He's changed linebackers how many time now?

I know part of the changes last year were due to injury, but its becoming harder and harder for me not to question his system, instead of his players…..

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by BWestFactor on Oct 8, 2010 12:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, technically only once this year.

I’ll make the same argument in defense of McD as I did in defense of WR coach David Culley all those years. When he has any talent to work with? PEople talked about how much David Culley sucked as a coach when he was in charge of James Thrash, PInkston, Freddie Mitchell, ect. Then the Eagles draft DeSean and Maclin and magically he can coach? No, it’s garbage in garbage out. You give a coach talent to work with an suddenly he looks like he can coach.

The Eagles have consistently ignored their LB corps in the draft. They invest a lot of money and picks in their line and secondary and those groups are pretty good. It’s no coincidence. I don’t think McD is somehow good at coaching pass rushers, but doesn’t know how to coach a LB.

I guarantee that if they put the same investment into the LB corps as they put into the D-line, we’d see improved play.

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by JasonB on Oct 8, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

As much as I can't really disagree with what youre saying...

….The Eagles have had great Defenses over the year. Just look at 2008, the defense finished 3rd or 4th in the league. They didnt have much for linebackers but held up against the run. To compare JJ and McD is not fair, but in the same sense, like you said, the Eagles havent had many good LBs over the last decade, yet theyve had great defenses for many of those years.

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by BWestFactor on Oct 8, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would agree with that

But remember, we also had Dawkins in those prior years. And even in his latter years he had to be accounted for because of his versatility. Many times he would come down and play in the box. In 2008, he had 3 sacks from the safety position. We started moving Dawkins down to pretty much where he was playing a 4th LB for us. That’s why I believe he made the LB core look better than they really were. The biggest beneficiary of that was Chris Gocong cause looking back, remember there was no question that Gocong was the SLB (even though he still sucked then), but when Gocong had to take on a bigger role that next year when Dawkins left and Bradley went down, he proved to be useless. Dawkins was missed more than just for his leadership ability. He’s playing lights out in the box for Denver right now.

by macjack09 on Oct 8, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

No debate there...

….he was certainly a big part of why they had success…. Im not ready to put all the blame of McD. Its apparent that he does have holes in his defense. All im saying is, if youre used to doing something a certain way with certain players (ie JJ and his players)….but then keep doing it the same way with inferior players (McD now) and its not working, should you not adjust the system and play to the strenght of those current players?

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by BWestFactor on Oct 8, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't disagree

Which is why I don’t have as big a problem with McD as some people. He was thrown into a fire and told not to burn. If anything, I put most if not all the blame on Reid’s shoulders. He needs to be less timid with making moves on players because he thinks he needs and ask around. If McD needs a true LB or whatever, he should tell that to Reid and if Reid is an open coach he’ll listen and preferably respond. If not now then never because it seems Reid’s words are less powerful at this point in time.

by macjack09 on Oct 8, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

True, but at some point there’s only so much you can do if the talent isn’t there. As great as JJ was it’s not as if his defenses didn’t struggle at times with poor LB play that he couldn’t fix.

Need I remind you of Levon Kirkland or Mark Simoneau or Takeo Spikes or every SAM since Carlos Emmons?

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by JasonB on Oct 8, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which is why

I keep saying that our defensive schemes aren’t LB friendly. With the exception of Trotter in his prime, no LB seems to be able to make as major impact as him.

by macjack09 on Oct 8, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

There also haven’t been that many LBs with any talent. I don’t know what scheme can change that.

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by JasonB on Oct 8, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

We did have a few good ones come and go. I mean Takeo wasn’t his primed Buffalo self, but he was still a former pro bowl LB and he couldn’t make the system work. Witherspoon, played average last year, but so did everyone else yet he was the first one to go. It just seems like nothing works with anyone.

by macjack09 on Oct 9, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with you completely…

Except that the D-line and Secondary aren’t that great either.

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by EREX21 on Oct 8, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would say that the secondary hasn’t struggled much this year. The best passing performance against us was almost entirely because of screens and slants to the TE.

The defensive line has struggled against the run at times for sure, but they’re up around the league leaders in sacks again.

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by JasonB on Oct 8, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

But I agree man....

Put in Patrick Willis in there and its a different story….

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by BWestFactor on Oct 8, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Samuel is out

according to Eagles fbook post – Calvin and Hobbs secondary???

by RucanorX on Oct 8, 2010 12:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Hobbs & Hanson maybe.

by Easedel on Oct 8, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t mind Patterson, I like him more the Hobbs actually

by Easedel on Oct 8, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

ugh, i was trash talking via text with a riend who is skins fan

at one point he wrote “good luck winning with that wussy D”. I had no comeback, this D so far is soft, like a baby’s bottom.

by Carlos Bravo on Oct 8, 2010 12:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Is there finally another Latino on here?

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by Rabbit T on Oct 8, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guess they can only

do so much with the crap talent they have on D. This is what happens when your LBs and depth consist of late late round & UDFAs lol.

Toss in Samuel being out? Good lord thank god we aren’t facing a legit passing team.

So first 3 rounds next draft…OL LB DT/QB?

by Easedel on Oct 8, 2010 12:52 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm off the bandwagon.

Let’s trade up for Locker.

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by Lyons81 on Oct 8, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

they will probably throw a curve ball again and take a safety or another DE

by Easedel on Oct 8, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha.

if they take another DE I’m gonna lose it.

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by Lyons81 on Oct 8, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Locker has had a very poor year. Andrew Luck or Mallett (Arkansas) would be best at this point.

And that in no way is me endorsing drafting either or wanting the Eagles to do poorly to draft either.

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by Scott Kessler on Oct 8, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lockers trash

Andrew Luck is the way to go

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by Djax10 on Oct 8, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Locker isn't trash

But he was rated way more on his abilities than his production. NFL Scouts fell in love with his skill set than anything else. My top 2 QBs for the next draft are Andrew Luck and Ryan Mallett. I give Mallett give the edge though because for one he plays against consistently harder defenses and Pac-10 QBs don’t exactly have the best track record (especially USC ones).

by macjack09 on Oct 9, 2010 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Has Andy ever used a 2nd on LB?

I agree with Ray Diddy that we undervalue them. We definately need OLine. Early and often, unless Howard gets coached up and we can trade Peters for a box of rocks.

by buddyball9 on Oct 8, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Howard is? ….he isn’t anything special and frankly coaching him up to what? average?…

by Easedel on Oct 8, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Matt McCoy, Quintin Caver, & Barry Gardner. Although I’m not sure the last two were Andy picks. He was only in his first year for the Gardner pick.

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by JasonB on Oct 8, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

His second season

and its seems as if he has no idea whats going on. I’m so pissed at all this confusion on both sides of the ball. I’m pissed that Kolb has had all this time to prepare for the season and looks like hes never played in the NFL before. Pissed that we went after no linebackers in the offseason. Pissed that we got 80 linemen that play defense instead of offense. I know its a “rebuilding” period but god damn.

idk what to say, venting the frustration. I’m outtie, peace.

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by Lyons81 on Oct 8, 2010 12:52 PM EDT reply actions  

lol welcome to my arguments the past 2 years on why Reid should have been let go. I give McDermott a pass for right now because I don’t think he is working with guys he would have liked.

Same with Bobby April…that guy is trying to build and igloo in mexico with special teams

by Easedel on Oct 8, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't get me wrong

I love Reid. Hes a stand up guy, and a good coach in my book although his clock management skills have easily gone by the wayside. However hes done a lot of great things for this organization over the past decade.

I have arguments with me friends all the time about his success. Honestly, I’d rather have ten years of almost winning a Superbowl rather than ten years of mediocrity. But i digress…

These past few months have been really weird, especially for an organization that is normally really goal oriented; in other words they no what they’re doing for the most part. I don’t really like McDermott, hes no JJ granted, but the defense flat out fucking sucks.

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by Lyons81 on Oct 8, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its the players. They just aren’t that good.

by Easedel on Oct 8, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is my point. If a coach can’t make good players play well… then I feel good saying that he’s not a good coach. If he doesn’t have good players, then how are we supposed to measure?

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by JasonB on Oct 8, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

A bit of A and a bit of B righ now I guess…….They most definitely need to draft a stud back there….the load up on DE is turning out to be a bit of waste at this point…..

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by BWestFactor on Oct 8, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

How is it turning out as a waste at this point? We’re 4 games into the rookie year of these guys. They have plenty of time.

Plus, Graham is contributing and Tapp is starting to play well. So they are getting contribution. If anything, the pass rush is the strength of the defense.

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by JasonB on Oct 8, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude im not disagreeing with you that pass rush isnt important. But to grab a guy like DTO with a 3rd round pick, when you just drafted BG, already have Cole and Parker, traded for Tapp during the year….common man, other positions are vital as well….as we are seing right now (insert OL/LB)

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by BWestFactor on Oct 8, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well that doesn’t mean the pick was a waste. Whether or not the pick was a waste is entirely dependent on whether the guy ends up being a contributor. We don’t know yet.

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by JasonB on Oct 8, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough...

It’s still questionable management of draft picks. If you have certain needs on a team, as you have made it clear in your opinions up above: Linebackers….. You draft accordingly. On one end your defending that the Eagles don’t have talented LBs (and hense; not McDs fault), but on the other end your saying that didnt “waste” (I agree that i may not have used the right term here) a 3rd round pick on a position they had plenty of depth in….. You can’t have your cake and eat it too man….. Im not here to argue with you all day long, but youre making it hard for me. At the end of the day we are on the same page and we re each a loud our opinion/view on things. There’s not going to be an exact answer every time….

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by BWestFactor on Oct 8, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you can absolutely say that a pick wasn’t a waste, but maybe you’d wish they’d picked some other position with it.

Like I said, a pick is only a waste if the can’t play. I’ll take any position if the guy can play.

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by JasonB on Oct 8, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

ya i agree a 3rd pick on a LB would have been a good idea. we have clayton and chaney both smaller guys as well as late round picks that will need to develop…. who knows DTO might turn into a beast one day.

by Stuk on Oct 8, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pissed that we went after no linebackers in the offseason?

What? We traded for Simms, and we drafted Clayton and Chaney. OK, so that’s one mid round and one low round, and traded a mid round, but, we definitely brought in linebackers. I didn’t see a Peppers-like free agent in the mix this year. Maybe if we’d gotten Peppers we’d have been able to draft differently, but that means what? Taking a corner?

I’m not a first round linebacker pick kind of guy. I think you can get good ones in the third and later. I actually think we’re ONE solid linebacker away from being pretty good there. Not having it be GREAT or anything, but to at leaving having it be solid.

by AZ Eagle on Oct 8, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I should have been more specific.

I thought we should have went after Capt Kirk and/or Howard. The Sims pickup was great, but other than that i don’t have that much faith in those guys we took in the draft. Mostly because i havent seen much of there work from the past and present.

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by Lyons81 on Oct 8, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can agree with what I think you're trying to say, that we didn't do enough to address it.

I don’t think anyone was confident in the SAM position going into the season. Mike was a question mark too, because of injury, but it was hard to see exactly where a quality SAM was going to come from this year even before any injuries or people not living up to expectations.

It is frustrating when the plan for a position is subpar. It’s one thing when things just don’t work out, like the 2009 OL or Mike positions. But when there isn’t a plan that’s even really decent, when the best case scenario still sucks, that can be frustrating.

by AZ Eagle on Oct 8, 2010 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am more and more convinced he doesn't know what he's doing

Guys are in, guys are out. DTs should hold their ground and protect LBs, DTs should penetrate and disrupt. If the Lions had completed that comeback, we’d be wondering if McDermott was getting fired at the bye or if Reid would wait until the end of the year.

I wonder if bringing in Jauron wasn’t a mistake? Hobbes has been a pleasant surprise and Allen has the makings of a star and Jauron has to get some credit for that, but I’m concerned that McD is so spooked by Jauron’s presence that he’s panicking.

by Tracer Bullet on Oct 8, 2010 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

How is this any different than when JJ was here? He had no qualms about making a change if it was needed.

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by JasonB on Oct 8, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its hugely different

JJ would stick with a guy until the everybody in the world knew he had to make a change. Then once he changed, that’s it. The other guy wasn’t coming back, at least not that season.

JJ was very set in keeping the same guys there, until it was obvious. McD is constantly shuffling players in and out. That has to affect communication as nobody plays long enough to develop that chemistry.

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by bdawk4ever on Oct 8, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, that just shows that McD is more flexible and less stubborn than JJ was. Not necessarily a bad thing.

Either way, I don’t see what difference it really makes. The end result is the same. The LBs aren’t particularly talented and whether you stick with the crappy guys or try someone new, the results won’t be hugely different.

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by JasonB on Oct 8, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

uhm no, any one who has played a sport will tell you hats wrong, some players can most can’t

by rainvillefromottawa on Oct 8, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can’t what? Replace a guy and become the new starter? They can do that.

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by JasonB on Oct 8, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm cool with more physical but more penalties...

not so much.

This should be interesting. I’m guessing Davis is going to have a field day.

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by EREX21 on Oct 8, 2010 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

DIdn't last year

Davis was basically shut down in Philly last year and Fokou was the starting SAM last year.

Now, Joselio Hanson basically covered him most of the game… but Fokou’s presence certainly didn’t allow for Davis to run wild.

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by JasonB on Oct 8, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are right. I was attributing Davis possibly having a big day more due to Samuel being out than Fokou starting.

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by EREX21 on Oct 8, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

RIght, I guess if you’re having a guy like Hanson filling in for Samuel than you who knows covering Davis? Lindley? Calvin?

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by JasonB on Oct 8, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

And there in lies my concern. Hopefully whoever it is takes the opportunity to show that they aren’t a waste of a roster spot.

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by EREX21 on Oct 8, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've been saying it for the last few years now

The LB core is and has always been the achillies heel on defense. Year in and year out we take these bottom of the draft guys who are from D-II colleges, players from big schools who have pretty much no major credibility, or we try to convert guys. I’m not saying it to be a jerk I say it because its true.

Another thing, the defensive scheme has been dragging me into question since the preseason of last year. Its like the LBs play such a minor role in the defense, that Reid gives no care to the position. I’ve been saying we should let the LBs play “Read and React” instead of playing the pass first, a lot of our rushing defense woes might go away.

by macjack09 on Oct 8, 2010 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

You give some of the best

strategic football comedy I’ve ever seen. I love reading your posts. Keep it up sir.

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by benjapal on Oct 8, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

comedy=commentary

Willing to trade my own ACL to any starter for the low low price of season tickets for life.

by benjapal on Oct 8, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

If your joking that’s cruel, if your being sarcastic that’s even worse. But if your taking any of my words serious and are just fooling around…….thank you.

by macjack09 on Oct 8, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

No honestly I love your posts.

Auto corrected a mispelling on my phone in class. Sorry bout that. But you seem to have a really good grasp on football strategy and I think theres always room for more in-depth breakdowns of the Eagles strategic/coaching/playcalling problems. Plus the fact that I’m not that well versed in the actual strategy of the playcalling and the defensive setups since I’ve never played a lick of competitive football.

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by benjapal on Oct 8, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

i feel like its

the defense that was built up to stop the greatest show on turf a few years back

by Easedel on Oct 8, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

According to Adam Schefter on Twitter, Vick was ruled out officially for Sunday

by The Fish on Oct 8, 2010 2:25 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

soo....

Kolb 2 weeks removed from a concussion with Kafka backing him up? With a hurt ass Shady, no Samuels & MJG starting again with Fokou at LB…

Money on SF

by Easedel on Oct 8, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

3 weeks removed from a concussion.

Plus MJG was the best offensive lineman we had last week. Guy really played well.

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by JasonB on Oct 8, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

ya glad for him too, but kolb still sounds better than alex smith

by rainvillefromottawa on Oct 8, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I understand what McDerm is tryna do

But here’s my thing. Foku is indeed the more physical LB of the two, but he’s always been. They new Jordan wasn’t a SAM. Yet they wanted more speed/athleticism on the field so they started him. He has also played better than Foku consistently..obviously! Basically what im saying is; most of us knew that Jordan was too small and lacked the physicality to play the position, while Foku had many mental errors coming into the season. So the answer..draft a LB who possess strength/athleticism/speed haha! Seriously though, if Foku can keep his head straight and b physical/aggressive when needed, he should do a fine job. I mean they worked him in at DE during preseason so he must have some speed. Just have to cut the penalties!

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by Realtalk32 on Oct 8, 2010 3:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Ouch Easedel! This week is going to be a real test for Mike Bell for sure. We’ll finally get to see what he actually brings to the table.

I said before the season started that this teams lack of depth at QB and RB was going to be a problem but the defensive woes are suprising to me. I think we have much better than marginal talent at all the LB positions but so far this season they just don’t seem to be tackling well, and get caught out of position a lot (Stew is freaking me out right now! Where has that guys head been?). Both of these issues can be handled in practice, but I think they Sean is still searching for answers when it comes to the starting lineup.

Question: do you guys think we’ll start seeing Keenan Clayton in on more nickle and dime packages? The guy showed a real nose for the ball and the ability to wrap up well when I’ve seen him. I don’t know, maybe I’m reaching for answers as much as Sean is, but regardless this defense needs a shot in arm.

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by OkieEagle on Oct 8, 2010 3:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Man...

everyone really is jumping off the Stewart Bradley train four games in…gotta be more patient with him i think. He just got off a major injury and started his season with a concussion…he will get better and has been good, using one game to judge Stew is too small sample size!!

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