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Why it is bad to smile.



Folks here have rightly castigated Donovan McNabb's wilingness to smile.  As we all know, grim faced stoicism is the only way successful quarterbacks have ever played the game.  Here's some evidence.

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Exhibit A:

Who the hell does this guy think he is?  He is beaming from ear-to-ear in irrational bliss.  Must be in the process of throwing an interception or choking in a big game.  That's what smiling means, you know.

Exhibit B:

What a clown.  Perhaps if he didn't celebrate in such over the top histrionics, the Broncos would have won a few Super Bowls in the late 90's when they finally had a running game (and balanced offense) to support a mobile, big arm passer with some accuracy problems.

And the clincher:

Two silly little boys who never did a damn thing.  Must be all that smiling.  Idle hands are the devil's playground, fellas!

Now for a real champion:

Note the grim face, the crisp lines of the jaw and the staunchly determined glare.  This guy's a winner.

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Yeah, but

Has anyone ever seen Kevin Kolb smile?

Since Congress now requires every topic on BGN to devolve into a McNabb vs. Kolb debate I thought we should get right to it.

Carry on.

by EANX33 on Jan 28, 2010 7:02 AM EST reply actions  

I wonder

If any of those pictures of guys smiling were immediately after a three and out.

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by MRPH on Jan 28, 2010 7:32 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

lol!

EB – MRPH has a point. Remember when Jeff Garcia was here? He would get so pissed if he missed a throw of if someone lined up in the wrong spot, or dropped the ball. He would run over with fury and start yelling at the player or condemning himself if he f-ed up. McNabb on the other hand smiles after a couple of bad throws and then starts thumping his chest indicating it was on him. It’s not exactly what a blue collar city wants to see. Do you get it?

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!

by Joe_D on Jan 28, 2010 7:40 AM EST up reply actions  

In the 49ers game...

When Leonard Weaver was yelling back and forth with the Niners defender and cost the Eagles a chance at a TD at the end of the half, what did he get from McNabb? A smile and a pat on the head.

I don’t think any of the above QB’s would have had the same reaction.

by JimmyK on Jan 28, 2010 8:15 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

or a dirt ball.

thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro

"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb

by wild_eagle on Jan 28, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Caption Contest! If those pictures were McNabb

Exhibit A:
Running onto the field before facing a team that kicked his ass only a week ago

Exhibit B:
After underthrowing a wide open by 5 yards DJax 30 yards deep…. but DJax still making an incredible catch to make McNabb look good

Exhibit C (The clincher):
“Watch this Jerry! I’m going to throw a dirt ball with the game on the line!”

Exhibit D:
“I’ll just keep doing my job and I’ll be getting paid! If not here then elsewhere”

by Smallbugger on Jan 28, 2010 8:40 AM EST reply actions  

this is the stupidest point people make against McNabb. Its just his personality. sure it may look inappropriate to us at home but I dont think you can say he doesn’t care enough about winning. If his results over the last 10 years were the same but he turned into a hellbeast everytime something went wrong the argument would be “McNabb needs to lighten up, his overreacting on the sidelines is a distraction and messes with the heads of the young players!!”

by njh3293 on Jan 28, 2010 10:46 AM EST reply actions  

Come on EB

Smiling, playing air guitar and picking up phones on the sideline are fine — when it’s not immediately following a dirtball, interception or a wild throw to an open receiver.

Still, the post was amusing — and I look forward to Kolb being traded to the Bucs for the Glazer family’s booty of dubloons.

by Greg M on Jan 28, 2010 10:57 AM EST reply actions  

Besides

We all know this topic is entirely too subjective to really debate.

McNabb supporters will say things like: So, what, he has to be pissed off if we’re losing? You don’t really know what’s going on in the huddle/locker room, he’s just trying to keep loose, etc. etc.

People that want to give Kolb a shot will say the opposite; neither side has pretty stats and percentages to back it up, so discussing it will just trading opinions based on what is seen on TV/press conferences, or invalidating those observations with the cop out phrase of “You can’t know for sure you’re not in the huddle” or some other variation of arguing without making an actual point.

/thread

by Greg M on Jan 28, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, not as subjective as you may think, good sir.

Objective evidence seems to indicate that smiling is bad for football.

And we can both celebrate when The Buccaneers purchase our scurvy rascal with some pieces o’eight. Arrrggh, me hearties!

...But if he pulls the rug on his quarterback, Reid must do it knowing that he let McNabb down more than McNabb ever let him down.

Phil Sheridan--Philadelphia Inquirer

by EvilBanner on Jan 28, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

If McNabb smiles, he’s not serious enough. If he doesn’t smile, he’s sulking.

there’s a time to project that you’re loose and confident, definately a time to be serious, and yeah, probably situations where you’d expect somebody to be despondent. McNabb doesn’t always show the emotion that fans have at the time, sure, but of all the criticisms of McNabb I think his on-field demeanor is a pretty small issue.

by BrianS on Jan 28, 2010 1:33 PM EST reply actions  

I have no problem with a guy

smiling before a game: loose, confident, knowing what he needs to do.

I have no problem with a guy smiling after performing well.

It just is so different than my own personality to smile after performing poorly, that I don’t understand it. And I don’t criticize him for this, his personality is different than mine…but I really don’t understand smiling while sucking unless you don’t care.

"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)

by jalarsen1 on Jan 28, 2010 2:07 PM EST reply actions  

I'm the complete and total opposite ...

… I always hated how guys frowned on the sidelines and threw their helmets and all that. I feel like all that screwface shit a lot of times was an act to look like you care in front of your teammates. To me, I’d be more impressed if that dude spent less time throwing his helmet trying to look like he cared, and more time talking to his position coach about how not to get his ass kicked again. THAT’S caring.

Also, positivity during a football game is not a bad thing. Every team is going to trail at some point during a season, have a bad quarter or what have you. I remember we played one year at Bridgewater (please excuse my small-college tales, they have a purpose) who was 0-8 and took a 20-0 lead on us. I remember a guy on the sideline being like “I can’t believe we’re going to lose to Bridgewater.” In the third quarter! I remember yelling at him to think positive … you can’t think you’re gonna lose. We scored four TDs in the last 9:56 and won, 28-20. Part of the reason we came back is that they were so used to losing, that as soon as we got rolling, I don’t think they believed they could win even though they were still ahead.

One more thing I hated … the other team coming on your field and yelling a whole lot during warmups. I used to laugh. I’d be like you guys yell all you want, we’re still gonna whip y’alls ass.

Short story long, don’t believe everything you see in terms of outward emotion. It’s not necessarily what counts. Some guys do it your way, some guys see it my way, some guys probably see it another way. Doesn’t make one right and the others wrong. The notion that there’s one certain way a successful football player must act is absurd.

but I really don’t understand smiling while sucking unless you don’t care.

To me that shows confidence, that you believe things will be fine even though they don’t always look great. I’d much rather get behind that leader than the guy who looks defeated after the first few three and outs (and Lord knows if the Eagles did that …)

(Some outward expressions, like selfish celebrations when you’re losing big, or grandiose antics for routine plays, do bother me. I do have my pet peeves … but everybody’s are different and nobody’s are necessarily law over anyone else’s)

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Feb 1, 2010 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

this is how bad the argument has gotten, we have people mad about our QB…SMILING. Does this really matter…i mean really…

"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."

-Brian Dawkins

by immynimmy on Jan 28, 2010 4:36 PM EST reply actions  

It does when he's smiling after choking 2 games away to our division rival.

thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro

"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb

by wild_eagle on Jan 28, 2010 6:39 PM EST up reply actions  

mcnabb

i LOVE mcnabb, but i think we all can admit he does dumb shit A LOT. From the way he would sulk if he didnt have westbrook on the field, to the smiling after a bad series. The worst thing ive seen him do is when he clapped after kolb threw a pick in the baltimore game last year. to me that was an uber dick move, and not being a part of the team. if you want to sulk for bein benched, thats fine, but don’t openly root against the team/your competition. Think about it though, everyone on here bitching about his dumb antics thought it was hilarious that he picked up the phone in the meadowlands last year. You can’t pick and choose which of mcnabbs antics you’re gonna like. Love im or hate him, im all for more moon walks in the endzone instead of broken ribs.

 I dont have a stance on whether he should go or not, i just hope the team gets better either way.

"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."

by greenbean#twoOH on Jan 28, 2010 10:32 PM EST reply actions  

I think people overanalyze the guy

and pretend like they can see inside his mind. Who knows what all that stuff really means, and if it has all that much to do with winning and losing.

Personally he comes off to me as a little standoffish, maybe not completely genuine because he seems like he’s trying to say the right thing. I kinda always disliked Kobe for similar reasons … but you know what? Doesn’t make him a bad player.

I much appreciate that he doesn’t throw picks, you’ll never have to worry about him getting a DWI or picking up a hooker before the Super Bowl or some other dumb crap … Even though I pretty much hated T.O. after what he did to divide the locker room, he probably was on point about the way McNabb can rub some people the wrong way.

But unless we can get our hands on one of the top 3-4 QBs in the game, I’d much rather have a guy whose flaws are what they are as opposed to the opposite.

I feel like if surrounded by a complete team, and often when not, McNabb gives the Eagles a very good chance to win. And in this game, that’s all you can ask for.

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Feb 1, 2010 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

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