McNabb, Kolb, young Eagles, & Howard Eskin
by JasonB on Jan 19, 2010 12:23 PM EST
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PrintI was going to address this later today, but I see it's already making the rounds so we might as well get into it. PFT is circulating a report by Howard Eskin that may or may not mean anything at all.
Howard Eskin of WIP radio and NBC Philadelphia recently has reported that, during the 2009 season, young offensive players were going to Kevin Kolb for advice on the sidelines before approaching McNabb.
Who knows what kind of "advice" he's talking about and never mind that it's not at all uncommon for players to talk to the backup QB... we all know what Eskin's implication is here. He's implying that Kevin Kolb is a better leader than Donovan McNabb. The way I see it, there's two explanations here. One is that Eskin is just stirring up some controversy and attaching meaning to something that doesn't actually have any. Wouldn't really be uncommon for a host of a sports talk radio show in the midst of a ratings war.
The other possibility is that he's a plant. We know that Eskin is close with Andy Reid and the Eagles front office and there's always the chance that they're using him to soften up the fanbase for McNabb's departure. It wouldn't be the first time tidbits about a player have leaked through the media before the Eagles parted ways with him...
Actually, Yahoo sports had an interesting interpretation that may or may not be meant seriously...
This is being seen as some indication of the team's future and the fact that the players think Kolb is the "better leader." But it could just be that there is a generation gap between the young players and the ancient 33-year-old McNabb.
Either way, it's the offseason and this is the kind of gossip fans of all teams can expect.
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or it could be a militant aspect where you dont run and ask a sgt major a question you should know or wouldnt want him to know your shakey on what you should be doing … instead you ask the lower ranked player who is also knowledgeable of the same situation and you wont be looked at differently by the person who is leading your down the field … none of them would want mcnabb to know they dont know their passing route …. maybe this actually sheds light to what mcnabb was saying about the team being young as a part of reason for a dallas loss
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by NorthPhillyKid on Jan 19, 2010 12:28 PM EST reply actions
What I was thinking as well
Young guys being uncertain and thinking the ball might not go their way if McNabb thinks they are shaky.
But does make you wonder about the generation gap…
exactly…its just common sense. When I was playing football in High School I would always ask an upper classmen about an assignement before I asked a coach. think about it. If Jeremy Maclin asks McNabb what route hes supposed to run on play X it may downgrade McNabb’s confidence in him. go ahead and bash McNabb for that but really its just human nature.
I think this as well as the age gap theory is what explains this non story. a young player is simply more comfortable confiding in someone who is closer to their age.
Is this supposed to make it better? Your QB should be approachable. This isn’t the military, McNabb isn’t a drill Sargent, he needs a working relationship with his WRs. If a receiver thought he was off timing, he should be talking to the guy throwing the ball, maybe they can make a change together.
We always rip on Andy for half time adjustments. Maybe its McNabb…
by Clyde Simmons on Jan 20, 2010 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
Offseason up-down drill
When uncertain or in doubt
run in circles, scream and shout.
I think this is all about eskin…
When he makes announcements like this his name gets out there, and since his show hasn’t been doing as well and he is sharing the mike with ike reese this is him trying to become the voice of philly again… not that he ever really was the voice of philly.
I do remember him hinting at asante coming here way before anyone else. I also remember people discrediting it because we already had two proven corners, but he knew what he was talking about. My point being that there definitely could be some truth to this.
Is this surprising?!?!?
The media coming up with some nothing of a story to once again, overly criticize, judge, and although this is to a lesser degree, slander the greatest Eagles QB of all time.
This is one of the reasons why I’d like McNabb to be traded this offseason. Not only is this the only way to get any sort of value in return for him, and that I think having a young QB develop with all those young weapons is important, but I want McNabb to go somewhere where the fans actually appreciate him.
I really wanted him to win one with the Eagles, but at this point I’d be ecstatic if he won one somewhere else as long as wasn’t from the NFC East. to shut all the media and McHaters up.
Also, this is just another example of why the NFL media absolutely sucks.
by 5 plus 10 equals 6 on Jan 19, 2010 12:46 PM EST reply actions
Oh, GODDAMMIT
I really, really, hoped we could at least hold off on the anonymous potshots and baseless speculation until at least the week of the Pro Bowl when there’s nothing going on. I swear, every off-season I spend in Philadelphia drives me ever closer to madness.
I trust the devil
Before I trust Yahoo Sports. Those are the same people who said Cromartie was up for trade after his Pro Bowl season, Adrian Peterson was losing his job to Chester Taylor, and Calvin Johnson had a contract dispute this off season.
This is such a non-issue...
It’s normal for people to ask for advice from people with whom they are more comfortable. Having played football in HS and college, if I had a quick question, I would usually ask a player that I knew well and thought could help me. I wouldn’t run to the captain and ask for their “advice”, whatever advice means.
Also, Kevin Kolb might have a little more free time on the sidelines to give advice, since he’s the backup and not actually in the game.
(i know Kolb — rather than Vick — was always wearing the headset, but the backup doesn’t actually relay in the plays, does he?)
Ok — well my point is probably off base then. He probably isn’t much more available than McNabb while the offense is on the field.
No I think you have a point
He certainly has more time. He does keep up with the game and the plays, but he doesn’t relay them in. I’m guessing they’ll go to him as he does know what’s going on.
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eskin is such a little girl. every backup qb talks to other players and gives advice. they have nothing else to do. just because the receivers and kolb are at a younger age than mcnabb, eskin thinks this is a story
On a side note
Does anyone remember what was said (by the WR’s) about the balls that Kolb delivered after his two games as a starter?
I can recall some WR being asked if the balls thrown by Kolb was better than McNabb’s, but I can’t remember the answer.
Anyone?
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by bleedinggreeninDK on Jan 19, 2010 1:47 PM EST reply actions
DeSean made a comment about that I think
He said something like McNabb throws bullets and Kolb throws pillows
Non issue
I think this is a non-issue. Kolb knows the offense. For the younger guys, they’ll probably spent more time with him in camps and practice, so they are probably more comfortable going to him. He has more time on the sidelines, but he also knows what’s going on. If I was a younger guy, I’d go to him first before going to McNabb. I don’t want my starting QB to know I’m a little unsure of what I was doing, and to give him a reason to not have confidence in him,
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This is the year
I love when writers/reporters/etc are out of things to write/talk about, they pull the McNabb Controversy Card out of their back pocket.
lol. It’s so true and it’s so sad. I can’t wait until the day when all those talks finally stop.
Granted, the next in line is the Reid Controversy.. “Is he coming back? What will the Eagles do? Trade Rumors? Reid for a Donut? Bears reportedly offer a Dozen Donuts.”
"They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds." - Wilt Chamberlain
I wouldn't call Eskin
a writer or reporter. Talk-show radio hosts are cut from a different cloth, usually.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
BOOOOOO
Get ready for 6-10!
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This is the year
And I'm at 180 degrees, completely the other side.
You couldn’t make a bigger mistake getting rid of McNabb right now.
If Eskin's schoolyard gossip helps to create a QB controversy...
…that ends in Kolb’s being traded for picks, I’m down.
...But if he pulls the rug on his quarterback, Reid must do it knowing that he let McNabb down more than McNabb ever let him down.
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Sick of loosing
I’m sick of the Eagles teasing me all season and to choke up every season for the last decade. We should have at least one SB ring minimum. Tired of bragging about my team and then look stupid when it counts. That’s why when people say your team is doing good during the season I say well that has not been a problem of late but I want them win a SB then I’ll be happy. Winning during the season and loosing to lessor teams is like getting to 3rd base. I want the home run!! I want to be one of those fans that can really talk shiat. Not just after a good win during the season. Of course you have to win many games to get to the play-off but we’ve had plenty of talent. We either have a very good D and weak O or vice versa. At least with TO we got to the big game. Yeah he was hurt during the paly-off run but seems like everyone played better with him on the team. He played out of his mind in SB and would have been MVP had we won. Get a big RB and stop all the cute offense that Andy loves to run. Let’s man up cause it aint working. Our division is tough enough and to loose to a team 3 times is horrible. We need solid DE and LB’s and a solid RB and EAGLES win it all. Until then the Eagle will just be above average and it makes me sick!! Big Eagles fan!
Our offense was awesome then
and we alwayls had a lead so our D looked better too. Kearse was playing like a madman, so was trotter, sheppard, dawk others. We also ohad a weak scheudle htough too (only beat 2 teams over 500 in reg season.) mcnabb was around 65% and the stars were aligned. prob wont have a seaosn like that again as the Beast and the rest of the NFC cont to get better
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I'm not. I've been a fan since the early 1970's
Nothing is worse than Mike Boryla as your starting QB! Nothing is worse than watching the most rotten startup team the Cowboys, losers through their first 7 seasons in the 60’s, turn around in the 70’s and dominate what used to be the class of the NFL, the Eagles.
I will take every “almost” from Vermiel, Ryan and Reid any day, then to go back to the decade of the 70’s of rotten Eagles teams and Cowboys Super Bowls!
You people don’t know how good you have it with the Eagles!
This makes perfect sense. Yet another example of hamhanded mgmt. by Andy et. al.
The Eagles also conspired to keep McNabb away from the younger offensive players during the game, making him stay in at quarterback while Kolb built credibility with younger players while they were subbing out. had the Eagles had a different QB in the game on each down (excluding 4th, for obvious punting/Vick QB dive reasons) so McNabb could provide leadership, this wouldn’t have been so obvious.
It's Mike Florio quoting a report by Howard Eskin
I would wait for an actual credible media report with their own separate sources confirming the story and if is a significant development at all before I really read into it.
Fire Andy Reid - From horrible clock management to wasted timeouts to using the pass to set up the pass, he is one of the worst gameday coaches in the league.
cataldi is horrible
Football clearly isn’t his favorite sport casue he just says what every casual fan says after each and every game.
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ehhhhh.....
who knows wat the true meaning of this is, the media in this country love stirring the pot, however the FO going through a third party 2 soften up the fanbase on dumping donavan would not surprise me. Even tho i am very critical of Mcnabb u gotta admire the guy, his skin must be thick as hell.
I hate the freaking offseason.
I’m going to go freeze myself. Thaw me when the season starts. This way I won’t have to listen to speculation about our QBs every day. I swear to god…if the Eagles somehow traded for Brees or Manning(Peyton, not shitty Eli), people would still wonder who was starting every game.
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by Filth2Fury on Jan 19, 2010 5:13 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
LOL @ freezing yourself
for the offseason.
You wouldn’t even want to thaw out for the draft in April? Just melt you at the first day of Lehigh or what?
I kinda think it’s brilliant …
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my girl friend burned her eagles thong… this is serious… the eagles have let us down again… another dismal season of the same old crap… lurie (PC loser)… banner (imbecile)… reid (usless)… morningweig (dumb as a rock)… mcnabb (just palin awful)… same old offense… same old smoke and mirrors defense… its time for a change… now that the redskins have a real coach 8 and 8 will be the best the eagles “gold standard” will manage next year… time to trade mcmoron and dogslayer… maybe get some picks… not that banner and reid would get anything…
by Elmo the faithful fan on Jan 19, 2010 9:16 PM EST reply actions
dude wtf
buring your eagles shit and you have faithful fan in your name? dumbass
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Lol
How do you blame the offense when they scored the most points in team history? Sure the last two games against the Cowboys we struggled but come on. Some fans just piss me off.
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Good...
We don’t want fags like you on our side anyways
WTF is America's Team....
by FlyEagles15 on Jan 19, 2010 11:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I was at the home opener and had sick seats right behind the bench, anyway during the game i noticed a few times the players actaully talked to Jeff Garcia on the sidelines at the time i thought nothing of it but then this stroy broke wow……. now i hear the Eagles will package McNabb, Kolb and Vick for a conditional 7th and bring back Garcia with a nine yr 150 million dolar contract!!!!! Here goes the media again stiring the pot with a non story.
Eskin
Did you seriously put Eskin’s name on something published here? Wow, I guess you have not figured out how he makes a living yet.
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