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A Peek at the 2010 NFL Draft



Believe it or not, the NFL Draft is only a few months away. Last year, the Eagles surprised many with their 1st-round selection of Jeremy Maclin, but also received praise for their late-round picks of depth. Already, it has become clear that the young players drafted by Philadelphia are blossoming into stars (i.e. Maclin, LeSean McCoy), while some others have their respective levels of potential waiting to be fulfilled. Obviously the Draft is always a highlight of the offseason, for it provides the league and it's 32 franchises with a breath of fresh air, bringing in a wave of new talents and future studs (as well as major busts). In this brief peek at the 2010 version of the Draft, we will take a look at some of the top prospects coming out of college, a few of the players the Eagles may be interested in selecting, as well as a historical examination of the Birds' previous Drafts...

2010 NFL Draft
NFL draft

Round 1: Thurs., April 22, 7:30 p.m. ET
Rounds 2-3: Fri., April 23, 6:30 p.m. ET
Rounds 4-7: Sat., April 24, 10 a.m. ET
Radio City Music Hall, New York

The Top 15 Prospects (compiled according to combined lists of various rankings among several sports networks)
[* = denotes an underclassmen entering the NFL Draft]

  1. Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
  2. Eric Berry, FS, Tennessee*
  3. Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma*
  4. Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State
  5. Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma
  6. Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma State*
  7. Taylor Mays, SS, USC
  8. Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame
  9. Rolando McClain, LB, Alabama*
  10. Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
  11. C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson
  12. Derrick Morgan, DE, Georgia Tech*
  13. Brandon Spikes, LB, Florida
  14. Brian Price, DT, UCLA
  15. Joe Haden, CB, Florida*

Who the Eagles Might Be Interested In

  • SS Taylor Mays (pictured): A physical defensive back always looking to make a big collision, Mays is clearly among the best available Safeties in this year's Draft. His pure ability tends to outweigh his sometimes-inconsistent pass coverage, and at 6'3", 230 lbs., he also possesses an advantage in size over opposing players. With questions surrounding the Eagles' current Free Safety spot, the selection of Mays to play Strong Safety wouldn't be a bad idea, especially considering current SS Quintin Mikell is able to play the Free Safety position as well.
  • OLB/DE Jerry Hughes: Hughes, who played both Outside Linebacker and Defensive End in various schemes while at TCU, rebounded from a mediocre pair of seasons to begin his collegiate career, and is now one of the hottest pass rushers listed in the Draft. The last two years as a Horned Frog, Hughes racked up a total of 26.5 sacks and proved to be one of the most aggressive blitzers in the nation. His primary weakness is defense against the run, for he often times gets tangled up with proficient offensive linemen. However, his ability to play DE and LB is valuable, and the Eagles need help at both spots.
  • OLB Sean Weatherspoon: Unlike Hughes, Weatherspoon played his entire career in the NCAA as an Outside Linebacker, but still had arguably the same level of success. While he is not the biggest and most intimidating defender, nor is he the most athletic and skilled, Weatherspoon simply gets the job done. As a full-time starter for Missouri University, the graduate led the team in tackles for 3 years, and capped off his college tenure with a total mark of 388 tackles, 3 forced fumbles, and 4 interceptions. With a lack of depth at the LB positions, Philadelphia is considered to be a prime candidate to select Weatherspoon.
  • DE Greg Hardy: Although there are top-notch Defensive Ends entering the Draft such as Derrick Morgan and Carlos Dunlap, Hardy is listed instead, because he seems to fit the mold of what type of defensive lineman the Eagles are looking for. Besides, if they were to select someone like Jerry Hughes, there is always the possibility that he would line up as an end. Nevertheless, Hardy is an explosive player off the line, and tends to give excellent first and second efforts on pass rushes. The primary issue with the quick product of Ole Miss is his struggle to maintain a balance against opposing runs. He has also dealt with some injuries in his past, so that could also be a potential weakness.

Eagles' Previous 3 Drafts

Rnd Name College
1 Jeremy Maclin Missouri
2 LeSean McCoy Pittsburgh
5 Cornelius Ingram Florida
5 Victor Harris Virginia Tech
5 Fenuki Tupou Oregon
6 Brandon Gibson Washington State
7 Paul Fanaika Arizona State
7 Moise Fokou Maryland
2008
Rnd Name College
2 Trevor Laws Notre Dame
2 DeSean Jackson California
3 Bryan Smith McNeese State
4 Mike McGlynn Pittsburgh
4 Quintin Demps Texas-El Paso
4 Jack Ikegwuonu Wisconsin
6 Mike Gibson California
6 Joe Mays North Dakota State
6 Andy Studebaker Wheaton
7 King Dunlap Auburn
2007
Rnd Name College
2 Kevin Kolb Houston
2 Victor Abiamiri Notre Dame
3 Stewart Bradley Nebraska
3 Tony Hunt Penn State
5 C.J. Gaddis Clemson
5 Brent Celek Cincinnati
6 Rashad Barksdale Albany State (NY)
7 Nate Ilaoa Hawaii

And because the Eagles are slated to pick in the 24th spot of the 1st round this year, take a look at how previous selections from the 24 slot have gone around the league:

2009 - DT Peria Jerry (missed most of rookie season with injury but remains high-potential defender)

2008 - RB Chris Johnson (topped the unimaginable total of 2,000 rushing yards while earning an Offensive Player of the Year and Pro-Bowl awards in only his second year)

2007 - SS Brandon Meriweather (earned Pro-Bowl appearance in 2009)

2006 - CB Johnathan Joseph (notched 6 interceptions in '09 as part of dangerous Cincinnati secondary)

2005 - QB Aaron Rodgers - (led Packers to playoffs in 2009 while earning mention in most of the top passing categories)

2004 - RB Steven Jackson - (recorded 5 straight 1,000-yard rushing seasons while going to a pair of Pro-Bowls)

2003 - TE Dallas Clark - (has played 5 consecutive seasons in which he caught at least 30 passes, and has also earned a Pro-Bowl appearance and gone over 1,000 yards receiving once)

2002 - FS Ed Reed - (one of the dominant forces of the league who has 6 Pro-Bowl appearances as an intimidating Safety)

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The Draft is only a few months away! While there are still plenty of moves to be made and things to be accomplished before that, you can't hope but wonder what is beginning to form within the Eagles' organization in terms of what they plan on doing in April.

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Not sure I would want someone who's spotty in pass coverage

Sounds like Mays is Landry #2. Physical specimen who relies on athletic ability and blows coverages. Not what we need around here. Should be VERY interesting to see how we tackle the S position.

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!

by Joe_D on Jan 16, 2010 11:03 AM EST reply actions  

or Mays could be a Dawkins...

jacked, hits hard, a fan favorite, a lotta emotion, leadership

eff you we winning anyway
A.I. IS BACKKKKKKK

by eagleswin on Jan 16, 2010 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Dawkins, in his prime, was the most complete safety in the entire league and always knew where the ball was going. This guy has roy williams written all over him and has major covering issues.JMO

I heart Dawkins

by dcgreenspro on Jan 16, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed

Dawkins used to be a CB/S/LB all in one.. He was great in all phases

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!

by Joe_D on Jan 16, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

ahh

ill take roy williams .. hes better than anything we have now .. he was a beast .. he lost his saftey partner and started having coverage problems .. mikell was a lot better wit dawk .. hes average .. u can see wha the other saftey does .. now mays is a stud in making .. he has ed reed potential .. i dont think hes over rated .. i think hes a better value where he will go than eric berry .. both are future probowlers .. if we would of got kenny phillips like i was praying we would than we wouldnt have to worry about this tho

An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)

by jack is better than asante on Jan 16, 2010 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll agree that RW

Is better than anything we got now, but Mays has nothing close to Ed Reed potential. Mays plays the receiver instead of playing the ball and is always looking for the big hit which leads to him getting beat alot. He’s extremely overrated.

I also agree that we should have went with Phillips awhile back ago so Dawk could have started grooming him. But I’ll take Morgan Burnett now. Possibly the 2nd/3rd best safety in this draft behind only Eric Berry and maybe to Earl Thomas. But Earl Thomas might be switched to corner because of his speed depending on where he goes.

by macjack09 on Jan 17, 2010 3:22 AM EST up reply actions  

How many USC games did you actually watch? Are you basing your decision on highlights, because they tend to only show good things. Ive watched all of USC’s games and this guy i a BUST, great hit every once in awhile, nice INT every couple games, gets beat in coverage, too slow to make up ground. Maybe we could change him into a LB.

"Season tickets for the Lakers? How is that economically possible?"
"Bye, Mac"

by moradi21 on Jan 17, 2010 6:39 PM EST up reply actions  

no the dude sucks ass...

ive seen it, everyone’s just flipping out becasue occasionally he can look like Palamalu(spelling?)

thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro

by wild_eagle on Jan 18, 2010 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

No

Everyone is flipping out because he played at USC and is a workout warrior. If he wasn’t at USC I bet there wouldn’t be as much hype around him.

And its Polamalu (but who cares).

by macjack09 on Jan 18, 2010 12:44 AM EST up reply actions  

nah

hes a physical freak .. fast and big. . u cant teach coverage .. u cant teach talent .. you can make a work out warrior into a star .. look at vernon davis .. calvin johnson .. etc. .. theres some risk .. aka vernon gohlston .. but its worh the risk when you get a superstar

An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)

by jack is better than asante on Jan 18, 2010 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

But

Vernon Davis and Calvin Johnson were already stars. Calvin Johnson was far and away the best receiver in that class and Vernon Davis had all the skills, just needed an attitude adjustment. They were workout warriors who were better football players.

Mays not so much. It be different if it were an injury or he just had a bad year, but it has been year in and out. He is a physical freak, but he has better instincts for the front seven rather than the secondary.

by macjack09 on Jan 18, 2010 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I hope it’s not us.

About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.

by IronHank on Jan 18, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Risk at what pick?

He’s not worth a number 1. We can see that the guy is a work-in-progress. I wouldn’t take him higher than a number 3.

by Soren K on Jan 18, 2010 7:00 AM EST up reply actions  

hahah

number three? are u kidding me .. dont be suprised if hes a seahawk or raider in round one .. i dont even think he makes it to the eagles pick ..

An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)

by jack is better than asante on Jan 18, 2010 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

And he'd be another Raiders bust.

Are the Raiders really that predictable? Pretty sad.

by Soren K on Jan 18, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

bs

asomugha ? hes no bust .. mcfadden will be fine when hes healthy .. heyward bey is a freak athlete .. wrs need 3 years to develop .. and russell .. yea hes horrible .. ill give you that .. gallery sucked at tackle .. hes a servicable guard

An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)

by jack is better than asante on Jan 18, 2010 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

heyward bey is a freak athlete

No. He’s just fast.

Oh, and he had 9 catches, 124 yards, and 1 TD in 16 games. Jeremy Maclin had 6 catches for 142 yards and 2 TDs in one game.

If Bey has 1,500 career yards in three seasons I will eat my pants.

RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.

by Imp on Jan 18, 2010 11:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Just give it up

You know arguing with JIBTA will get you nowhere. He sticks to his guns no matter what. In his mind, he is never wrong. Even when he’s wrong he’s right. If he is wrong then its some else’s fault. Quit the argument while you still have brain cells left.

by macjack09 on Jan 19, 2010 12:52 AM EST up reply actions  

how

how is a rookie wr with blazing speed and athleticism a bust .. he had the worst qb in league .. didnt know the playbook .. and was a rookie .. WRS TAKE THREE YEARS TO DEVELOP/… devin thomas did same thing .. got better this year .. and now hes ready to be a possible 1000 yard wr

An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)

by jack is better than asante on Jan 20, 2010 1:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah?

Well, then how did Louis Murphy (4th round pick) get 521 yards and 4 TDs?

by chrisbeomsuh on Jan 20, 2010 5:25 AM EST up reply actions  

well JIBTA Desean Jackson

came in with blazing speed and athleticism and he learned the playbook and was a rookie.. Why couldnt DHB do it??? Oh and Maclin also did it this year.

Bey cant catch, there is no reason to even play him at WR.. Damn I should get a speed coach, run a 4.3 and Ill go in the top 10 because Al Davis will see speed.. Ill be fucking rich.

thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro

by wild_eagle on Jan 20, 2010 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

You just proved how naive you are

So now every receiver is expected to have 900 yards in his rookie season or he is garbage?

The verdict cannot be out on Heyward-Bey yet. Its quite commonly known that receivers take 3 years to develope, and it doesn’t help when you have Russell as your QB whose completing like 35% of his passes and throwing 100 yards a game.

by Team Serbia on Jan 20, 2010 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

no thats not what Im saying...

His arguement was that he didnt know the playbook and he’s a rookie and my arguement is that Desean and Maclin both learned the playbook in their rookie year.

And DHB’s teammate Murphy did it and he was a rookie and a 4th round pick.

thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro

by wild_eagle on Jan 20, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

how is a rookie wr with blazing speed and athleticism a bust

Because a track star =/= good wide receiver. 9 catches in 16 games. Period.

RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.

by Imp on Jan 20, 2010 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

wow

you guys are morons .. it was a fuckin rookie season .. look at devin thomas !! jesus christ .. rookie wrs dont start .. unless ur in the philadelphia offense where they spread ball around and run simple routes .. it takes 3 years to develop .. heyward bey has a better skill set than desean .. so he could be an all pro .. he could be a bust .. but saying he sucks just makes u look stupid

An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)

by jack is better than asante on Jan 20, 2010 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Saying he sucks makes you look observant. Look man, I’m not for or against DHB, but after your rookie year, you don’t look at draft projections, you look at NFL production. He hasn’t produced, thus we say at this point, he sucks. Yeah, he could turn it around hardcore. However, he’s done nothing to convince anyone he is a good WR.

I am the people's troll :3™

by yomjoseki on Jan 20, 2010 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

wow

you ppl really are that stupid .. receivers take time to develop and learn play books .. just cuz desean did it faster doesnt mean anything!! look at devin thomas .. this guy has the skill set to be a stud . .you guys are really that dumb wow

An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)

by jack is better than asante on Jan 21, 2010 2:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Do you mean to say “Just because everybody in the history of the world developed faster”?

He had 10 fucking catches, bro. That’s like half a game for Brandon Marshall.

I am the people's troll :3™

by yomjoseki on Jan 21, 2010 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Then why did Louis Murphy

Out play him retard?!?! You seem to keep neglecting that fact. Not only was Louis the lowest receiver on the depth chart, he had a learning curve coming from a spread offense.

DHB was guaranteed a starting spot plus he came from a pro style offense.

by macjack09 on Jan 21, 2010 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

wow

idiots he was a rookie and hurt and had jamarcus russell .. wow ur dumb ,.,. how many rookie wrs do nothing and then have good careers .. steve smith? devin thomas?

An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)

by jack is better than asante on Jan 24, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Now Devin Thomas has a good career? It’s not even funny, give it up.

You have yet to answer the most obvious question: If it’s SO hard to do what he did how come he had one of the worst rookie season’s ever for a top 10 pick AND he was outperformed horribly by Louis Murphy?

I am the people's troll :3™

by yomjoseki on Jan 24, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

yea yea

u look like an idiot ..arguing cuz a rookie wr didnt put up numbers .. he was too busy learning how to run routes .. play books .. how to create seperation in nfl .. thats why they say 3 years!!!

An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)

by jack is better than asante on Jan 25, 2010 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

By then he’ll have 30 catches!

I am the people's troll :3™

by yomjoseki on Jan 25, 2010 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

um ok I’m so confused right now how did Devin Thomas have a super-successful career in his second season with 325 yards and 3 TD’s? Jeremy Maclin is a rookie and had 762 yards and 4 TD’s, Louis Murphy had 521 yards and 4 TD’s, Crabtree had 625 yards 2 TD’s and played in only 11 games, Percy Harvin and Hakeem Nicks both had 790 yards and 6 TD’s. These are all rookie wide receivers and Darius Heyward-Bey had 121 yards and 1 TD and he was the first receiver taken the numbers speak for themselves. Crabtree missed training camp and didn’t need to spend 3 years to get more production, Murphy played with JaMarcus Russell in his first year and didn’t take 3 years, Jeremy Maclin battled injuries and had rumors that he wouldn’t be able to handle the complex route trees, had more production. BRANDON GIBSON HAD MORE PRODUCTION THAN DHB I MEAN DAMN HOW MANY MORE EXAMPLES ARE THERE!!!!

by fhqwagads on Jan 25, 2010 7:00 AM EST up reply actions  

cuz

hes a rookie!! and he had jamarcus russell .. stop comparing him to other rookies .. he needs time to develop

An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)

by jack is better than asante on Jan 26, 2010 1:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I just love to see how hard you try to ignore logic

Why can’t I compare him to other rookies when you talk him up so much and he’s the first receiver taken off the board while a sixth round pick for the eagles who was inactive for the first 3 or 4 games produced more it makes a point and he played for the RAMS. Did you even read the entire post Louis Murphy was a 4th round pick by the raiders and played with Russell and had more production.

by fhqwagads on Jan 26, 2010 5:54 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m not quite sure why JIBTA is ignoring the Murphy comparison. It’s pretty funny to read though because you know he knows he’s wrong but he won’t give up.

Jim Johnson 1941-2009

"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009

by Whodie126 on Jan 26, 2010 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

no whodie

i am not wrong .. this is a rookie .. the most talented rookie in that class btw .. so what he didnt do anything .. give the guy a chance .. in 3 years if hes a superstar you will all be like o we never said that ,. we knew it would take time for receiver to develop

An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)

by jack is better than asante on Jan 26, 2010 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

well now it's hypocritical!

Remember when we had all those talks about Macho throughout the regular season and I said well he’s a rookie you can’t tell if he’ll ever develop into a superstar. Well now you’re using the same argument in favor of DHB. Well you were plenty quick to pass judgement on Macho why does DHB get special treatment? Why doesn’t Macho get 3 years to develop?

by fhqwagads on Jan 26, 2010 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

you are wrong because Luis Murphy was a rookie as well and he did better in the same system. How good is DHB really when he can’t even beat out a 4th round pick.

You are wrong on this JIBTA admit defeat and walk away.

Jim Johnson 1941-2009

"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009

by Whodie126 on Jan 26, 2010 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

nah

heywards beys size speed and athleticsm make him good. . he just needs to develop. ..whodie u dont know shit if u think wrs dont need atleast 2 years to develop .. im disapointed in you .. and macho is a bum , he wont develop cuz he was a late round pick who was too slow to play corner .. and is not athletic enough to play saftey .. heyward bey has the ability to be a stud .. macho does not

An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)

by jack is better than asante on Jan 26, 2010 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

didn’t take DeSean Jackson 2 years, or Jerry Rice, or Randy Moss, or Larry Fitzgerald … I think you get the point.

The thing you are missing is you are saying DHB was bad because he was a rookie and had a bum QB … I agree with you on this but Louis Murphy was in the EXACT same position and did better.

Jim Johnson 1941-2009

"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009

by Whodie126 on Jan 26, 2010 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

yea

well wha about chris carter? steve smith?

An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)

by jack is better than asante on Jan 27, 2010 9:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Those players were taken in later rounds and probably didn’t receive starting jobs right off the bat, DHB on the other hand did and so did many of the rookie receivers he had all the opportunity in the world to be an impact player but so far has done not much of anything while the rest of class is leaps and bounds ahead of him.

by fhqwagads on Jan 27, 2010 10:58 PM EST up reply actions  

lol I love how he completely ignores this argument. It’s like he’s convinced himself that Louis Murphy doesn’t even exist.

It’s getting sad now.

Jim Johnson 1941-2009

"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009

by Whodie126 on Jan 28, 2010 8:49 AM EST up reply actions  

who the fuck cares

who cares about louis murphy .. he caught two long passes .. and that was a chunk of his productiion .. he sucks .. he is no where near as talented as DHB

An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)

by jack is better than asante on Jan 29, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah.

Maclin sucked this year.

Veritas Liberabit Te

by DSmith215 on Jan 20, 2010 2:59 AM EST up reply actions  

u cant teach coverage

Really? So what are film sessions for?

About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.

by IronHank on Jan 18, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he meant

You CAN teach coverage but can’t teach talent

by chrisbeomsuh on Jan 18, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

and DB coaches for???

hell what the fuck is Practice for then???

thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro

by wild_eagle on Jan 18, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

yea

i did .. u can teach and atlethlete to cover .. u cant teach someone to be athletic

An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)

by jack is better than asante on Jan 18, 2010 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

ah ok so it was just a brain fart then...

I will give you this one JIBTA.

thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro

by wild_eagle on Jan 18, 2010 11:22 PM EST up reply actions  

For once I agree with you

I’d take Earl Thomas or Morgan Burnett any day over this guy

by tanman5 on Jan 18, 2010 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

God damn it!

JIBTA?

I thought we had finally gotten rid of you. Everything around here was so nice without you stinking up the joint…

Veritas Liberabit Te

by DSmith215 on Jan 20, 2010 2:57 AM EST up reply actions  

and wow

we bombed on the 08 draft besides Jackson. The ’07 draft could turn out to be gigantic for this ’10 season considering Celek and Bradley are all pro and Kolb could turn out to be our franchise qb

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!

by Joe_D on Jan 16, 2010 11:05 AM EST reply actions  

Agreed

The 2nd best player in the 2008 draft was Stuebaker, who we promptly let go to KC

by Bob_StudioZ on Jan 17, 2010 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

It was a tough preseason call

Joe Mays or Studebaker? Who to keep? Obviously the Eagles chose Mays.

Cody Benjamin

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by kingmcnabb5 on Jan 18, 2010 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Ya, but....

I’d take 6 busts and one superstar if that star is D-Jax, and now we are looking for pieces

by PierrEagles on Jan 19, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

nope, I dont take a 6:1 ratio...

I would rather get a borderline superstar, 2 good starters, and 1 decent player who contributes in many ways than have that 6 busts and 1 stud…

thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro

by wild_eagle on Jan 19, 2010 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think we draft a Safety this year. I just have a feeling that Demps or Macho steps up. Macho will be entering his second year, Demps his third. There’s no reason to draft another Safety at this point when we have two very young safeties.

I am the people's troll :3™

by yomjoseki on Jan 16, 2010 11:05 AM EST reply actions  

No way

The Eagles are going to bring in another person to likely start at FS whether it is via FA or the draft. Demps had a bad attitude this year, had nagging injuries through out the season, and didn’t show much. Harris stinks. He is a overrated-tackler, no-cover FS. At best, he stays on the team as a depth guy at S who contributes on special teams coverage.

by MG77 on Jan 16, 2010 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

demps

denos is way better than macho ,, atleast he can cover and make plays

An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)

by jack is better than asante on Jan 16, 2010 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

demps*

dunno why i wrote denos

An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)

by jack is better than asante on Jan 16, 2010 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Denos’ Pizza?

RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.

by Imp on Jan 17, 2010 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Your defense of Demps is a mystery to me...

I’m not sure how you can say Demps can cover anybody. I haven’t seen it, and I need to see it to believe it.

by Soren K on Jan 17, 2010 8:19 AM EST up reply actions  

when

lets all burn him for that fitz play .. it wasnt even his fault .. the corner didnt run wit him .. n then demps turned and stumbled .. hes fast .. machos slow .. he can hit .. macho dont hit anyone .. thats why u never see hear his name .. hes athletic ..macho sure isnt .. he can return kicks .. macho ..um we seen what he can do as a return man .. so yea im not giving up on demps .. hes atleast good enough to be a back up .. he is way better all around than macho and actually has upside ..

An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)

by jack is better than asante on Jan 17, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I'll admit that Macho was less than stellar

But if Demps can’t beat him out, thats his problem. He had an extra year and learned from one of the best of all time. And Demps can not hit. He was criticized for his physicality. He is a back and that’s it.

by macjack09 on Jan 17, 2010 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, you are right...

Demps can return kicks. I haven’t seen him cover anybody. I’m not talking one play.

by Soren K on Jan 17, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Demps was terrible.

thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro

by wild_eagle on Jan 17, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

so was harris

harris was beyond terreble

An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)

by jack is better than asante on Jan 18, 2010 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Harris wasnt too bad...

he was a rookie.

thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro

by wild_eagle on Jan 18, 2010 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

If you want to be technical

Harris actually had the more productive rookie year between the two….and Demps was the starter and had the better tutor. So as bad as Harris was, it only supports the fact that Demps was worse.

by macjack09 on Jan 18, 2010 12:47 AM EST up reply actions  

hahaha

harris was the worst player on the field .. why cuz he started .. he didnt make any plays! u didnt hear his name .. he was like another gocong .. hes terreble!!! made me want sean consodine back

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by jack is better than asante on Jan 18, 2010 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

And with everything you are saying

It just makes Demps sound worse. Harris wasn’t a playmaker and may have been the worst player on the field, but if Demps couldn’t beat someone as bad as Harris for a job that was Demps’ in the beginning even though he had a year more experience in the defense and had a HOF player to teach him, that makes me worry. That lets me know that Demps isn’t the answer. And don’t even tell me that “He needed more experience.” The guy he was competing against had no experience at all. I have every reason in the world to doubt Demps.

by macjack09 on Jan 18, 2010 1:02 AM EST up reply actions  

ok

demps was hurt .. and reid also started consodine over a pro bowl talent in michael lewis .. so maybe he dont know safteys .. he is used to having dawk back there and not having to worry bout anything .. mikkell was not impressive either all year ..

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by jack is better than asante on Jan 18, 2010 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Demps was not hurt in training camp. He just got outplayed. So that’s no excuse. Mike Lewis was a probowl talent. Key word: “WAS.” He had one good season then fell off. When he was benched that should have lighted a fire under his ass and make him play better (like Rhodes when he got benched for Eric Smith) but he didnt. He continued to play bad and was traded. The best player plays. If you are not playing like the best player, then you don’t play. It doesn’t matter your accolades. Mikell wasn’t impressive, but as much as I blame him, I blame Jones, Macho, and Demps for not stepping up and being able to maintain the spots in that secondary.

by macjack09 on Jan 18, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Demps

got owned in the NFC Championship. Yes, Larry Fitzgerald will do that to a lot of people, but he hasn’t done anything particularly impressive. Sorry. Maybe you keep him to compete with somebody, but safety is one of the few positions where we can stand to make a big upgrade

by tanman5 on Jan 18, 2010 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

If we even excuse that game,

when has Demps ever shown any promise as a safety? The guy has proven to be nothing more than a special teams lifer. And it might be a short life at that.

by Soren K on Jan 18, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

tanman

you dont know shit .. larry burnt the corner .. and when demps when to turn and recover he stumbled .. it wasnt his gfault ..just looked bad cuz he stumbled and the camera came at that time .. look at the whole play bud

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by jack is better than asante on Jan 18, 2010 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

In fairness

Whenever that happened to Sean Considine, we would call him the best safety ever.

We still got burned all day by the Cards and the free safety deserves at least part of the blame.

In the end, Demps is a 4th round pick. If we don’t have many other needs, why not give him some competition with a first rounder like Earl Thomas? If Demps beats him, great, but I don’t think Demps has justified us not looking for other answers.

by tanman5 on Jan 19, 2010 9:18 PM EST up reply actions  

they are both corner/safety hybrids.

that doesn’t do us any good. i want a real safety. i want an intimidator.

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by snowhill82 on Jan 16, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Macho has talent

But can’t get his head straight. I’ve given up hope on Demps. Thats why I pray we draft Burnett.

by macjack09 on Jan 16, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Macho sucks

Stunk this year flat out. Players are supposed to improve as the season goes on. Harris was arguably the worst player on the field on the field the last few weeks for the Eagles and that is saying alot given how poorly they played.

Macho can’t return kicks/punts or play CB. His only potential position is at FS/SS. I say it is about 50/50 he makes the team next year if this team spends a higher round pick on a FS or brings someone in via FA.

by MG77 on Jan 17, 2010 11:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Well

Special teams players are needed. Not starters. Just guys who can run down the field and make a tackle or block. He could do that in the least. I hope we either pick up Nick Collins, OJ Atogwe, Danieal Manning, trade for Kerry Rhodes, or draft Morgan Burnett. That would solidify our safety position.

by macjack09 on Jan 17, 2010 11:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Rhodes isn't going anywhere

Eric Smith might be… ever since Rhodes won his job back he’s been playing better than at any time of this year.

by Rabbit T on Jan 22, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Fuk drafting a safety, fuk Harris, fuk demps(at safety at least)........

Two words my fellow Eagle bros………NICK COLLINSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by goldenbird09 on Jan 16, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

GB you my boy and all

But if you think that the Packers are going to let Collins go without a fight. I’m talking a Jackie Chan fight. Trust me. You know I put alot of time into scouting and I am not a big fan of QBs, RBs, LBs, and Safeties in the first round. So if I say draft some in the first round, then I have a lot of faith in someone.

by macjack09 on Jan 16, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

ok.....

where is this burnett kid from then so i can check him out?

by goldenbird09 on Jan 16, 2010 7:07 PM EST up reply actions  

GA Tech

He was a second team all All-ACC this year after he had a “down year” He was an All-American last year.

by macjack09 on Jan 16, 2010 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

thanks MJ09....

ima check out sum highlights : )
still tho u know u would take Nick Collins over him in a second, and it might not be as hard as u think 2 get him, remember the last couple years weve signed or traded for sum big-time players and i expect that trend 2 continue.

by goldenbird09 on Jan 16, 2010 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

I know I would take him in a second because he’s one of my favorite players in the NFL. I had my eyes on him last year and I was hoping he would have a down year so it would be easier to pick him up but that jackass decided to have an all-pro year making his asking price very hard.

As far as us trading for big names, remember the big names we have traded for have for the most part had problems with their team which made it easier for us to relieve them of their “problem”. But Collins has been pretty quiet lately so that’s why I have so much doubt in us picking him up. But yeah. I have had Collins in my headlights for the last few years.

by macjack09 on Jan 16, 2010 8:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow, the 24th pick has like 5 all world players in the last 8 drafts, that’s sick.

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by yomjoseki on Jan 16, 2010 11:06 AM EST reply actions  

Oh, and I’m gonna rec this, because when I read it, it didn’t even sound like KingMcNabb’s writing.

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by yomjoseki on Jan 16, 2010 11:11 AM EST reply actions  

it tells me

 he couldnt cover a ant with a blanket. that td golden tate had should have never happened. all it takes is it a swat attempt. not some kinds of super man madden jump. juss a hand in that ait but nooooooo he tries for the big hit

by allmaddenking on Jan 16, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Morgan Burnett

The second or third best safety behind Eric Berry and maybe Earl Thomas. Otherwise he has all the physical tools and awareness. Far better than Mays.

by macjack09 on Jan 16, 2010 12:58 PM EST reply actions  

Where's he projected to go?

He may be the best available (Thomas may not slip to us) when we pick

by tanman5 on Jan 18, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

He is projected

As a second or third round pick because he had a “bad season.” I don’t believe he had a bad season, he just set the bar high for this season after coming off an All-American season. Plus, its pretty obvious its not his fault he had a down year because remember, the D coordinator was fired for a reason.

 With a good combine he could slip into the bottom of the 1st round. But because he doesn’t play in the SEC, Big 12, and isn’t an overrated USC product, he is likely going to go into the 2nd or 3rd round. Look up the article “Eagles Could Use Some Bees” and see what Scott Tunstall says about him and look up a highlight video for him. In my opinion, he is the second best all-around safety in the draft behind only Berry.

by macjack09 on Jan 18, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Eagles 2010 picks

Eagles’ current 2010 picks

  1. 1st Round
  2. 2nd Round
  3. 3rd Round
  4. 3rd Round – From Seattle
  5. 4th Round
  6. 4th Round – From NY Jets
  7. 5th Round
  8. 5th Round – From New Orleans
  9. 6th Round – From Indianapolis

They have a decent number of picks including two picks in the 3rd, 4th, and 5th rounds. Should help the depth on this team a bit which was lacking a bit this year at several positions including OL, LB, and S. It should also enable the Eagles if they want to take a player they like in a later round as a develop prospect (e.g, QB) or upgrade special teams (draft K or P in 5th round/6th round).

Plus you figure that the Eagles will trade away at least one of their QBs this year (Vick/McNabb) which should get them at least around pick that is 4th round or higher. If they trade McNabb, my bet is they would get at best very low 1st round pick. More likely get a 2nd rounder and 1-2 additional picks. Vick probably brings you alot less in return. Hard to see him bringing anything higher than a 3rd rounder this year. More likely a 4th rounder.

This draft is supposedly pretty loaded with talent at several positions and you will likely see a couple of talented underclassmen declare early because of the labor agreement situation and potential rookie cap that might be put in place.

A lot of what will happen in the draft though depends on what the Eagles do in FA including who they resign (especially at LB), who they cut, and if they bring in which likely will be limited this year because teams will be able to spend heavily if they want to keep their own guys. Also, the Eagles have to ask themselves if they can count on contributions from either of the Andrews brothers next year and if Bradley really will be the answer at MLB.

This really is a team in transition and it will officially be one if they trade McNabb and cut Westbrook.

by MG77 on Jan 16, 2010 1:34 PM EST reply actions  

Most interesting thing is #24 pick.

Will what the Eagles do with the #24 pick in the 1st round. They have the additional picks in the middle rounds if they want to make a move up a bit for a player they really like they will likely have the picks to do it.

At the same time, if they do trade McNabb this team clearly is entering a transition period and it wouldn’t surprise me at all if they are willing to move out of the 1st round again to stockpile a really high pick for 2011.

by MG77 on Jan 16, 2010 1:41 PM EST reply actions  

Stunned

If the Eagles trade up into the top #15. I wouldn’t be surprised at all to see Reid move up a couple of spots to grab a player he really likes but it would requires the Eagles to give up a fair amount to jump from #24 draft to say even #10-#11.

by MG77 on Jan 16, 2010 1:45 PM EST reply actions  

we should NEVER EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

EVEN THINK ABOUT TAKING MAYS. HES THE NEXT ROY WILLIAMS HIS IDEA OF TACKLING IS THROWING HIS BODY AND HOPING TO GET THE BIG HIT. (hmmmm sounds a lot like sean jones aslo)

by allmaddenking on Jan 16, 2010 1:53 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed

Any person who thinks Mays is a first round safety has been getting caught up in the media propaganada and ESPN highlight hits.

by macjack09 on Jan 16, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Can't deny his physical tools though

I think Mays would be great in the 2nd round (although we all know Al won’t let him fall that far). His coverage issues can be fixed in practice.

by chrisbeomsuh on Jan 16, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Fixed in practice?

They couldn’t be fixed in 4 years at USC. He needs alot of work. I don’t disagree he would be a great second rounder because of his physical attributes, but I trust him more in the front seven then the secondary. Check out the highlights/lowlights video I have just above.

by macjack09 on Jan 16, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah not disagreeing with you there

He’ll need a lot of work to fix them, if they can be fixed at all. All I’m saying is that it COULD possibly be fixed in practice. On the other hand, his physical tools are something that can’t be taught to other players. I want the Eagles to stay the hell away from him in the first but if he happens to drop to second round, I wouldn’t mind taking a chance on him.

by chrisbeomsuh on Jan 16, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

lol….guilty.

by Route36 on Jan 16, 2010 3:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

love his size but...

he’s vision isn’t as good (don’t know if it can be fixed) and his tackling fundamentals are terrible.

by ringordietryin on Jan 18, 2010 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

DRAFT KNOWSHON!

oh…. oh wait. yeah, bout that….. never mind.
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by anuj on Jan 16, 2010 3:09 PM EST reply actions  

Haha…I take it you weren’t here during the last draft.

by Route36 on Jan 16, 2010 3:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

lol, my thoughts exactly

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-Donovan McNabb

by anuj on Jan 16, 2010 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

Anuj are you still recovering from your attempted suicide last year?

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!

by Joe_D on Jan 16, 2010 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

hahah

anuj was obsessed lol

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by jack is better than asante on Jan 17, 2010 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

what round is he projected to go?

I can only imagine a year without football would hurt his stock a bit (obvious comment is obvious), but if he fell JUST enough he might be a consideration.

I don’t know his scouting report, how was he at FSU?

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by alcatraz0109 on Jan 16, 2010 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Third Team All-American

His last year there. He wasn’t a turnover machine, but he was the best player on that defense. He was a big hitter. He might need to drop about 5-10 pounds to help his fluidity. No need to worry about him picking up on an NFL playbook (seriously, if you can graduate FSU in 2.5 years and complete neurological studies in one year at Oxford, learning anything else is just showing off). He is projected to be a 3-4 rounder. Mainly because as you said, he took a year off football. He is good though. I think Myron Rolle and Morgan Burnett are two of the most underrated safeties in the draft.

by macjack09 on Jan 16, 2010 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I almost think that (as you described) with his great character, skill, and smarts (book and game), he could be a potential reincarnation of BDawk, or am i wrong?

Either way, I want the Eagles to try to get him (if he falls far enough). And he played at Hun, near where I go, so that would be pretty nice.

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by alcatraz0109 on Jan 16, 2010 6:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought I remebered him saying he wasnt going to come out this year. I heard that hes going overseas to study (cuz the dudes a friggin genius), and in 2 years hed play in the NFL.

by philiafan14364 on Jan 17, 2010 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Eh, nvrmind, a year late on that one.

by philiafan14364 on Jan 17, 2010 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

hey

hes from nj .. seen him play in hs .. hes nasty .. and hes going to be a good player in nfl .. i think he would be acorner tho .. but he is a genius .. ill give u that

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by jack is better than asante on Jan 17, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

true

I go to the same hs that he went to and he came back a months ago and said that he has a personal trainer there and he has been working out very often and is still in good shape.

by frazfraz23 on Jan 17, 2010 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

as much as I'd love to see him play

You gotta admit that what he’s doing is the far better long-term move. Still, I’d like to see him come into the league at 26 and light it up for a few years before retiring to become a nuclear physicist/genetic engineer/astronaut

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by IronHank on Jan 18, 2010 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually he'll only be 23 next season

He is an inspiration for what he is doing. He is coming to play in the senior bowl and train for the combine and will go back to Oxford for his finals afterwords. He said he wants to play in the NFL and then when life after football hits, open up a clinic.

And its a neurologist what he wants to be. He probably could do all that stuff too. He’s insanely smart.

by macjack09 on Jan 18, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

He's smart enough

to be a CB. Who better to remember a receiver’s tendencies?

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by IronHank on Jan 20, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I truely dont feel that speed is a key issue with CB's...

sure its a luxury and its great.. But as long as they can keep up w/ the reciever and make a play on the ball thats good enough.. Sheldons not the fastest yet he’s argueably the best.

thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro

by wild_eagle on Jan 20, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Right now it looks like we didn’t get much contribution from the 2008 draft class as we thought except for desean jackson.

by fhqwagads on Jan 16, 2010 7:13 PM EST reply actions  

hmm

will i be the only one hoping we take mays.. and if hes there saying take mays take mays

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by jack is better than asante on Jan 17, 2010 12:02 AM EST reply actions  

Haha,,,

I’ve been calling for Mays too bro but after some more research, I decided on Earl Thomas over him. We need a cover safety since we have corners that gamble(Asante) and bite(Sheldon).

by Route36 on Jan 17, 2010 12:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't be surprised

if somehow the Giants and Eagles 1st rounders look similar again.

Morgan Burnett or Earl THomas are probably going to be NYG’s.

Eagles could use a safety…but so could many teams picking before the Eagles. I’m not sure these guys are gonna fall to them at #24 unless you trade up.

Thomas and Burnett aren’t as heralded as Berry, but really they both aren’t far off as far as the hype makes it out to be.

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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 12:08 PM EST reply actions  

I doubt there will be that many first rounders used on safeties as people think they’re like middle linebackers they’re always hyped up pre-draft and then end up sliding. Berry and some sorry sucker will probably take Mays in the first round and the rest will probably slide into second round.

by fhqwagads on Jan 17, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Brian Dawkins was taken in the second round

by fhqwagads on Jan 17, 2010 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Boom

good call

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by IronHank on Jan 18, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Doubt it actually.

Burnett and Thomas are legit. One is getting drafted by the Giants and the other’s probably not lasting past the Steelers.

Dawkins was a second rounder cuz there was questions on his speed.

THese 2 are as good as guys like Polamalu and Reed coming out of college. Not saying they’ll be as good, but they are both more in that style of S then anything else. Both of those guys were 1st round picks.

I guess the only thing Dawkins has to do with this is that the Eagles can find a S in the later rounds?

Both of these guys are gonna run in the 4.4 range too. Whatever that means….but it usually means they’ll get drafted high instead of fall in the draft.

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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess this year has an exceptional group but last year the top safety was Louis Delmas and was taken in the second round

by fhqwagads on Jan 17, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

25 and higher, so yea

but really the knock on him was going to a small school.

Thomas and Burnett come from top flight schools who play top notch competition.

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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

McShay and Kiper don’t like Burnett though so if he gets into their heads, he very likely will fall. Somehow he rates Mays better than Burnett even though Burnett has cover skills that are almost as good as Berry’s.

by macjack09 on Jan 17, 2010 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

yea...

Kiper and McShay are not good to go by.

If anyone still has Mays as a first round pick, other then maybe to the Raiders…they’re nuts (at least at this point).

Mays IS a freak physical talent…and while some say he’s a lot like Sean Taylor (RIP)…that’s just wrong cuz Taylor had pretty good coverage skills.

Mays is probably better off as a WLB. Possibly even like Urlacher, bulking up and being a MLB. He’s just too big.

Morgan Burnett is right up there with Earl Thomas. And yea..both of these guys are closer to Berry then most think.

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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 6:37 PM EST up reply actions  

We can definitely agree on the Kiper/McShay thing...

If those dudes were actually talented at scouting, we’d never hear their names because they’d be under contract by an NFL team to run the scouting department. As it stands, they are simply second-rate guys who happen to have decent camera presence…

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by IronHank on Jan 18, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Jairus Byrd(9 ints) was the top rookie safety last year and he was also taken in the second last year.

by Route36 on Jan 18, 2010 2:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Jairus Byrd....

actually, was a CB at Oregon.

At the time it was a headscratcher of a pick…most had him rated as about the 7th CB.

….Oh yea, that dude that was the DC for Byrd? Giants new DC.

How come China can't vote David Lee for All-Star?

by FreeBradshaw on Jan 18, 2010 8:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Congrats

I must say, it’ll be nice having some real defensive competition from Big Blue again. Sheridan took Spagnuolo’s team and laid a fat log all over it. I’m sure you couldn’t be happier that he was the first firing…

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by IronHank on Jan 18, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

to be honest I'm more pissed the

ST coach is still there…..

Sheridan probably deserved the firing, but the injuries, whether on IR or just guys who were never even 80% for most of the season (thanx Flozell…), I just think it was more of an example firing, not that he was truly incompetant.

The fact Bill Sheridan got a job so quick as a LB coach with the Dolphins? With Parcells? Sheridan has to know what he’s talking about in order to get a job with Parcells that quick.

To put it short for the ST…its a joke. Coverage..(not just desean…) is a joke.

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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 18, 2010 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Hixon

Showed some flashes but never seemed to have any blocking.

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by IronHank on Jan 19, 2010 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I beginning to just lean on the fact the entire team took a shit this year...

cuz in 2008, when he was strickly a return man..Hixon was very good on kicks and punts. Not the fastest guy…but could take anything to the house.

It gets late real early out here....

by FreeBradshaw on Jan 19, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

There were zero S taken in the first last year...

so I don’t know what that has to do with this year.

2 S are first round locks. The other, Burnett, probably makes it 3.

Of course you can wait…

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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 18, 2010 8:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Aside from DeSean Jackson that 2008 draft is looking like a disappointment

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by Baron Dainer Von Tresvant on Jan 17, 2010 5:35 PM EST reply actions  

that was a very very very weak draft though.. Most anticipated it.

thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro

by wild_eagle on Jan 18, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

hey hey hey

dont start mocking Micah… You watch and see, Ill be right.

thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro

by wild_eagle on Jan 18, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

After yesterday's Viking beatdown...

…it is clear that we can’t beat the Cowboys unless we can get pressure from the front four alone. The vikings completely fisted the Cowboy’s O-line hard, deep, and without needing to rely on the blitz. Trade Kolb and our 2nd round pick so we can move up and get Derrick Morgan.

...But if he pulls the rug on his quarterback, Reid must do it knowing that he let McNabb down more than McNabb ever let him down.

Phil Sheridan--Philadelphia Inquirer

by EvilBanner on Jan 18, 2010 9:18 AM EST reply actions  

The thing is

Defensive ends rarely produce as first or second year players. Look at Mario Williams. He was 6’6", 295 with blazing speed, and he only had 4.5 sacks as a rookie.

I agree you 100% with our problem being with the front four, but I think we should go free agency (Ray Edwards, Julius Peppers, or Aaron Kampman) and then look to the draft for a safety

by tanman5 on Jan 18, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Elvis Dumervil

would provide rush as a DE and also LB depth. But he is likely to be retained by Denver.

Cody Benjamin

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by kingmcnabb5 on Jan 18, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Also

He is too small for a DE. I don’t see them letting him go especially when he was in mention for defensive player of the year.

by macjack09 on Jan 18, 2010 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, he's an RFA

And after this season, they’ll probably want to do more than offer him a tender. I bet he gets an extension before April

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by IronHank on Jan 18, 2010 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Also

Kolb is worth way more than that. At least a second round pick, considering that’s what we got for him, and I doubt the Eagles get rid of him.

by tanman5 on Jan 18, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but Derrick Morgan is going to be a stud

And as to your above point with Mario Williams, he didn’t have Trent Cole bookending him in Houston his first year. I do the Kolb plus 2nd rounder to move up for Morgan. But Julius Peppers (or Ray Edwards) would be great opposite Cole

...But if he pulls the rug on his quarterback, Reid must do it knowing that he let McNabb down more than McNabb ever let him down.

Phil Sheridan--Philadelphia Inquirer

by EvilBanner on Jan 18, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

nah

kolbs not gettin traded u idiot .. why would we trade our future qb to move up .. two first or u dont get kevin .. hes not going anywhere .. just cuz evil banner hates him he wants to give him away

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by jack is better than asante on Jan 18, 2010 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d go for Ray Edwards over Julius Peppers

by fhqwagads on Jan 19, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Much

Cheaper. I concur.

About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.

by IronHank on Jan 19, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

And younger

He’s only 25 and not even near his peak. At the very least, get him away from Jared Allen. If this guy continues to improve, the line will be the second coming of the Purple People Eaters

by tanman5 on Jan 19, 2010 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

no

peppers is way better .. no comparison .. if ur saying a better bargain .. maybe than .. but if were just takin one or the other .. no question .. peppers is top 3 DE

An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)

by jack is better than asante on Jan 20, 2010 1:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Sure, Peppers is better

But Edwards could be a long-term solution for us. Peppers is hitting his 30s soon and will be looking for a huge paycheck I’d rather not pay, if the option is open of course. Still, It’s not like I’d root against Peppers coming here, that would be a nasty DL.

About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.

by IronHank on Jan 20, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I think we'll pick up a starting LB in free agency

and get one for depth later on. DE, S, OL in that order for this draft

RIP Jim Johnson. You will truly be missed.

by Igglesfan13 on Jan 18, 2010 6:18 PM EST reply actions  

Yes, DE is the first priority.

We all witnessed what a pass rush can do? Right Tony?

by Soren K on Jan 18, 2010 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah but not in the draft

I think free agency is more effective for defensive ends when you consider Andy Reid’s track record of drafting defensive ends. Of course, for ever Jerome McDougle and Victor Abiramiri there is a Trent Cole we drafted or a Jevon Kearse we signed that we should not have but you also have to consider that it takes a couple of years to develop.

So I say free agency for D end and safety in the draft.

by tanman5 on Jan 19, 2010 9:22 PM EST up reply actions  

#33 overalls not bad

and a 4th could be useful expecially in a draft this deep.

thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro

by wild_eagle on Jan 19, 2010 9:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Quarterbacks are really hard to come by in this league

Think about what the Bears gave up for Cutler. We should get at least one first round pick if we are even going to consider trading McNabb

by tanman5 on Jan 19, 2010 9:31 PM EST up reply actions  

ehh

cassel went for about that .. and he is young .. so 33rd and a 4th seems fair .. u plug in kolb .. wit vick as back up .. i think we improve then . 33 is like another first really

An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)

by jack is better than asante on Jan 20, 2010 1:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Holy Shit... JIBTA

quit it.. this has been like the 5th time we’ve agreed since that aweful week 17…

No but really I agree 100%.. Its considered a 2nd rounder but the 33rd pick is a 1st really expecially in a draft this deep and in the 4th round there’s still players who are 2nd and 3rd round caliber athletes…

thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro

by wild_eagle on Jan 20, 2010 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

long shot but...

vick for st. louis rams’ 2nd round pick
mcnabb for minnesota vikings 1st round pick

sign jeff garcia and touchy feely as backups

wishful thinking i know, but not impossible, right?

by ringordietryin on Jan 19, 2010 12:00 PM EST reply actions  

Trading McNabb to Minnesota would be retarded. They could already probably eat us alive with Favre. I bet they could just as easily do it with McNabb. When we beat them in the 09 playoffs was a LONG time ago.

I am the people's troll :3™

by yomjoseki on Jan 19, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

no way.. McNabb cant hit those 6'5" recievers...

there to high in the air to catch those worm burners.

thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro

by wild_eagle on Jan 19, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Giving him an actual run game...

May give him a chance to get an open receiver…

by justyn725 on Jan 19, 2010 11:13 PM EST up reply actions  

lol..

so your trying to tell me that when McNabb has 5-8 seconds behind our OL that that’s the reason he cant hit the wide open reciever anywhere but in the shoes???

Im sorry but an “actual run game” shouldnt effect McNabbs throwing abilities expecially when he has time… More time than now we game McNabb more than sufficient time to throw and he just threw worm burners, look at the Oakland game… He seemed to make better throws when he was getting pressured, we shouldve just let every defender go so he’s actually make a pass…

And in my opinion we were pretty balanced this year. Lesean and Weaver did a good job running the ball and during that long winning streak we were almost perfectly balanced…

thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro

by wild_eagle on Jan 20, 2010 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Draft picture...

I believe that Macho Harris deserves another shot, yet I still don’t know why people rule out Sean Jones? He has pretty good potential too. I think we can all agree that we want Bradley back in the MLB and of course Witherspoon will play, ironically, WILL. But is Fokou going to step it up? And DE position needs to be addressed. Bring in Osi Umenyora for that. Your thoughts?

by DaFrankstaTM on Jan 22, 2010 11:30 AM EST reply actions  

If we can get Berry I think we do...

then we keep Macho for when Mikell leaves(he’s almost 30) I think Macho can be a good SS in our system, he just needs to learn the system a bit more, put on some muscle(which will naturally happen this offseason) and he will have to learn a little more controll… I see Berry/Macho as the future of the safety postition assuming we do the right than and go balls out to get berry.

thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro

"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb

by wild_eagle on Jan 22, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

macho

macho is horrible .. i want him off the team .. him and gocong both blow .. i hate that u like these guys and they are top 3 i want off the team

An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)

by jack is better than asante on Jan 24, 2010 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Safety

      I have a bad feeling that this draft is going to be a lot like the 2007 draft. We needed a safety then as well and it was a safety deep draft. LaRon Landry, Michael Griffen, Reggie Nelson, and Brandon Meriweather were all taken in the first round before we picked at #26 (Which we traded to Dallas and picked up Kolb in the second round). I still feel if one of those safeties were available we would have picked one up.

       This year I really want Earl Thomas, this guy is a beast. My second choice is Morgan Burnett. (I’m not mentioning Berry cause he’ll be LONGGGG gone). But I feel that if we don’t trade up to get one of these two guys that they will both be gone. The perfect scenario IMO would be if we trade McNabb to the 49ers for the 16th over all pick and their 5th rounder. This would allow us pick up Earl Thomas (Hopefully) at 16 and Brandon Graham with the 24th pick.

by Samoura23 on Jan 25, 2010 11:59 PM EST reply actions  

good point.

Seems like there’s a ton of depth…but the dude’s you mentioned, and ones like Chad Jones, Nate Allen, Reshad Jones…of course, Taylor Mays. More then one of these guys is going to be a POS.

Out of the 2007 class…the only good one is Mike Griffen, who doesn’t go to the Pro Bowl every year because Ed Reed and Polamalu do (and no one cares about the Titans…).

Interesting because Griffen, like Earl Thomas, comes from Texas and is thought that he could move to CB instead of S because of his speed, quickness and coverage skill.

…good thing the Giants draft at #15 :)

You've got to be very careful if you don't know where you are going, because you might not get there

by FreeBradshaw on Jan 26, 2010 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Darrell Stuckey too I think he has a lot of good qualities to him and could be a good mid-round option for the eagles

by fhqwagads on Jan 27, 2010 2:24 AM EST up reply actions  

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