Getting to Know Our Week 1 Opponent - Carolina Panthers - Strengths and Weaknesses
The preseason is over. I'll reserve my thoughts (mostly negative) on our training camp and preseason for another day, because quite frankly, today is a great day. Why? I just said it... THE PRESEASON IS OVER!!! I'm going to enjoy a nice, long Labor Day weekend followed by a shortened work week, and then it's finally time for some games that matter. So on that note, it's time to look ahead to our Week 1 opponent, the Carolina Panthers, and their strengths and weaknesses...
Vegas Line - PHI -1
2008 Offensive Rankings - 10th overall, 19th passing, 3rd rushing
2008 Defensive Rankings - 18th overall, 16th passing, 20th rushing
STREGNTHS
1) The Run Game
With apologies to the Giants, Titans, and Vikings, I'm going to go ahead and call this the best rushing attack in the NFL. Last year, DeAngelo Williams racked up 1,515 yards and 18 rushing TD's (with 2 more coming on receptions) on only 273 carries (a staggering 5.5 yards per carry). I know it's just one year, but how is he so frequently not mentioned among the best backs in the NFL? And if Williams isn't enough, Jonathan Stewart added 836 yards and 10 TD's on 184 carries (4.5 ypc) in his rookie season.
The Panthers' offensive line is led by Jordan Gross, one of the true "elite" left tackles in the NFL. On the other side, we all know Jeff Otah (thanks for the 1, 2, and 4 by the way, Carolina), who played very well in his rookie season. The interior guys (Travelle Wharton, Ryan Kalil, Keydrick Vincent) are solid, if not spectaclar. This is a very young group (avg age of 27) that thrives on wearing down defensive lines and popping long runs in the 2nd half.
Something to watch for - Not to be ignored is the best run blocking WR in the game, Muhsin Muhammad (that's right, Hines Ward... dirtiest doesn't mean best). Keep an eye on number 87 - they usually run in his direction, and I'm looking forward to watching the running game matchup between Muhammad and Sheldon Brown.
2) Big plays
We all know about Steve Smith (teammate puncher and big play WR extraordinaire) - Last year, he put up 1,421 yards and 6 TD's on 78 receptions (18.2 ypc), and had (8) 100-yard games, all despite missing 2 games because he punched his teammate in the eye during training camp. He's a big play waiting to happen on any snap.
But it's not just Steve Smith. This rushing attack doesn't have a grind-it-out style by any means. They pop big ones. Case in point - In Carolina's final 9 games, how many games did Deangelo Williams NOT have a rush of at least 20 yards? NONE. That's right... None. Incredible.
3) Beason and Peppers
These 2 players (on an otherwise shaky defense) are outstanding, period. Let's just move on.
WEAKNESSES
1) The QB
Intangibles and a fiery demeanor are nice attributes, but at some point talent is really important too. I think that about sums up Jake Delhomme. Obviously, the lasting impression everyone has of the Panthers last year was Delhomme's abysmal performance against the Arizona Cardinals, who are picked off Delhomme... 17 times in that game, I think? I can't remember. It was either 16 or 17 times - I lost count. Anyway, to just look at that one game and judge a guy solely on that isn't fair. So I'll judge him on this - He has a great offensive line, an amazing rushing attack, and one of the best WR's in the world. How in the world is he not absolutely torching the terrible defenses in the NFC South? 15 TD's, 13 INT's - Unacceptable with the weapons he has.
"Off the topic question" - Was Jake Delhomme's 5 year, $42.5 million deal the worst contract of the year (any sport)?
2) The rest of the defense
There's a common misconception out there that the Panthers have a good defense. Julius Peppers is an elite DE and Jon Beason is a great, up and coming middle linebacker in this league, but after that, what do you have? The Panthers suffered a terrible setback when they lost Maake Kemoeatu to a season-ending injury, and it's looking like Jon Beason may miss the opener against Philly. Last year, the Panthers ranked 18th in total defense (16th vs the pass and 20th vs the rush).
What should be our biggest fear?
I'd feel infinitely more confident going into this game with a healthy Stewart Bradley, but alas, he's hurt and we trudge into the season with Omar Gaither at MLB, flanked by Akeem Jordan and Chris Gocong. Thats's not exactly a favorable matchup against this rushing attack. Also, I have a lot of confidence in Jason Peters, but I would expect that Julius Peppers will get to know Brian Westbrook pretty well by the end of this contest, as the Eagles will look to help Peters by having Westbrook "chip" for most of the afternoon.
What should be their biggest fear?
How are they going to stop our offense... at all? With Beason and Kemoeatu out, it creates an enormous hole in the middle of their defense that the Eagles should look to exploit. They should expect the Eagles to create favorable matchups in the short to intermediate passing game with Westbrook on their linebackers and the speedy receivers underneath, and then look to pop some deep balls when the defense looks to take away the short game. This should also be a game in which we can do some serious damage on the ground.
Prediction
The enormous hole up the middle created by the injuries to Maake Kemoeatu and Jon Beason are the difference, as the Eagles move the chains at will, as they survive a big day on the ground by Deangelo Williams.
Eagles - 34
Panthers - 23
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great breakdown!
thanks for the excellent breakdown, very informative
by hoya03 on Sep 4, 2009 10:40 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I saw somewhere...
That said that Beason is going to try and play.
As for the game I think it comes down to if we can stop the run since I do not fear Delhomme at all and like you mentioned I don’t understand how they gave him an extension. The run also might be easier to stop since Stewart might be out and I think he has missed all of pre-season.
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YEAH.....
I heard also that he is gonna give it a go, although how good he is gonna be with a banged up knee remains to be seen. it might be a good thing if he plays as a healthy linebacker would have trouble covering bwest
nice post
I don’t know why Carolina hasn’t gotten a real quarterback its like Delhomme is someones son in law or something.
Delhomme's stats
He’s mediocre for the first three quarters, then he becomes the fifth best QB in the league in the fourth. That’s going by rating, BTW, if you care to argue it.
If you can force us into a passing game early, then you win. If we’re allowed to establish the running game and enter the fourth in a close contest, you’ll be wondering where this scary-accurate gunslinger came from. It’s something we’re used to in Carolina. We’ve had a shaky defense for years and haven’t had a running game since 2003, yet with Delhomme under center we’re 49-30. Some QBs just know how to win games, and we have one.
And for what it’s worth, Aikman had a similar problem to Delhomme regarding poor TD production. When your starting running back is known for popping it into the end zone, well someone’s stats have to suffer… :)
lol no votes for the panthers yet
Its going to be a tough game. If we can stop the run, we win. This whole game im putting on the shoulders of the offensive line. Every other postition has played pretty well this preseaon and the only big question mark left is the O line. If Peters steps up, Max gg fills the hole at lg, and sean actually plays, there shouldnt be a problem with running all over them.
Beason and Stewart are both playing per PFT.
Wow Bye Dawk, you did not wait long at all. Great job, as always. You’ll be nominated as our cult leader before long.
Great Post..As Usual
I think we just out score them this game. Should be a fun one to watch. Too much speed and too many mismatches for their defense to handle. Tip of the Hat Bye Dawk…You, Bob Q, and Professor Whodie are the reason I finally caved and decided to start posting and not just reading. Now this site distracts me from work even more…
by 5 plus 10 equals 6 on Sep 4, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks
I’d also like to say thanks to all the members of this site who make this the best place outside of my fellow eagle fans I grew up with to have educated discussions, observations, and debates about our team. And also a thanks to all those moronic posters..without your ridiculous opinions and comments, this site would be much less enjoyable to read…BGNIBTOFB – Bleeding Green Nation Is Better Than Other Football Blogs!
by 5 plus 10 equals 6 on Sep 4, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Beason...
According to PFT, Beason…
said he plans to start running over the weekend and is confident he’ll play in the opener Sept. 13 against Philadelphia. ‘I really don’t have any doubt in my mind,’ Beason said.
I think the phrase “plans to start running over the weekend” doesn’t really sound too good for Beason, no matter how much he wants to play.
Bye, Big Stew and JJ :(
//Cobb’d
**who’s
Astra Inclinant, Non Necessitant
by EagleGreeninMD on Sep 4, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess a few Panthers fans who found this site and read this post.
"Backs in the 'I'...First and 10...McNabb, play action. Is back again. He is looking..he is going deep. He wants DeSean Jackson..who HAS IT!!! HE HAS IT!!! AND STEPPED INTO THE ENDZONE!! He took it away from the defender!! He took it away from Dominique Rogers-Cromarte, and ran into the endzone!!
by McNabb2Maclin4Philly on Sep 5, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
uh ohhhh
I did. I really think we drop the first one and win the next 5. We usually start off slow. Its judt what the Eagles do.
I agree BD
Carolina’s top 2 backs definitely are top notch. I would think the Vikings duo are close though, mainly due to how quality AP is.
Yeah did not mean to undercut him
Chester is a good runner as well.
Wait until you see #3 rookie RB Mike Goodson
faster than either Stewart or Williams and can run between the tackles
I blog the Carolina Panthers at www.catscratchreader.com
Great post
The Eagles match up really well against the Panthers on both sides of the ball — it should be a great start to the season.
One wildcard to thing about is Dwayne Jarrett. By all accounts he has matured this past offseason and is putting the hard work in needed to take his game up to the next level. I don’t think it will be a problem for our secondary but still something to think about.
As a panthers fan (eagles fan first though)
They say that every year since they wasted that second round pick on him. Honestly he won’t be with the team after this season and he’s already been replaced by kenny moore. That said it’s all gonna come down to the eagles linebackers and secondary tackles. If DeAngelo gets by bunkley and patterson I think we might be in trouble without stew and sure tackling from our secondary. But i think you’re all forgetting Peppers up and down play you could argue he wants to play football less than andrews. Prime example of a guy who wishes he stuck with basketball with the comfy shorts and no hitting
Jarrett is a non-factor
Kenny Moore looked solid at #3 WR in the preseason
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I think this is going to be a game that ends with few questions on offense and many questions on defense….for both teams. In other words, a high scoring slugfest.
"THIS IS NOT COLLEGE NO MORE. THIS IS THE BIG MAN SPORT." ~Crazy Lady on BGN forums
by southjersey89 on Sep 4, 2009 3:36 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Was Jake Delhomme’s 5 year, $42.5 million deal the worst contract of the year (any sport)?
That honestly is one of the most baffling decisions I’ve seen in a while. I think it’s clear Delhomme has reached his highest plateau, and will never develop into an elite QB. As you said in your post, it’s not fair to use that one playoff game as a sample, but in this case I actually think you should.
When a player almost single-handedly ends your playoff run with a terrible game, it isn’t wise to reward them with a new contract. This goes doubletime for a player at the QB position, where mistakes are the most costly. I mean really? It’s one thing to keep a guy around for a while, but a new contract? 42.5 million? If this is a growing trend in the NFL, Booker is well on his way to becoming a billionaire.
"THIS IS NOT COLLEGE NO MORE. THIS IS THE BIG MAN SPORT." ~Crazy Lady on BGN forums
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Agl8P4EQtE
Some of these passes are so horrible, words cannot describe them. But numbers can….$42,500,000
"THIS IS NOT COLLEGE NO MORE. THIS IS THE BIG MAN SPORT." ~Crazy Lady on BGN forums
by southjersey89 on Sep 4, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the Blue Jays and Vernon Wells
have the worst contract in recent memory for me… right up there with the Yashin contract with the Islanders.
And all three of those guys
are fine players if they aren’t so overpaid.
Although the NBA has the rookie thing down pat, they have about one overly bloated contract per team.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
Um...what about every contract the Raiders have made the past 3 years?
$72Mil to Javon Walker. How much to D-Hall? I think only $20M of Jakes contract is guaranteed (still a lot of money) but we’ll see on Sunday.
I blog the Carolina Panthers at www.catscratchreader.com
A random thought about playing Carolina...
I’m not sure at this point who will be in charge of blocking Julius Peppers, whether it be Andrews or Justice. Justice is yet to prove he can play punch for punch with a star DE, although he did have a solid preseason. Normally I wouldn’t be concerned if Shawn Andrews weren’t coming off a very inactive preseason. But I’m really hoping Andy and Marty are prepared to give their RT some help if Peppers starts getting on a roll. Last time as we all remember Andy just sat back and allowed Winston to single handedly make Osi Umenyiora a Pro Bowler. Please lets not be pigheaded this time around.
Peppers should start lined up on the LT - Peters right?
Though he’ll be moved around. He’ll play both sides throughout the game.
I blog the Carolina Panthers at www.catscratchreader.com
this game scares me.
i think the eagles will win but I see it being a tight one that keeps everyone entirely too uncomfortable. one thing thats helping me sleep at night: jake D taking the snaps. i think if i were a panthers fan i would switch teams haha how does this guy start under center year after year? oh well, good for us.
Delhomme's record is 49-30, 5-3 in the playoffs
after coming to a team that was 1-15 the previous year. Not too shabby I would say. For all the kudos given to Jay Cutler what’s his record?
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bye dawk
This post absolutely SUCKED!!! It is very inaccurate and the points you made are jus flat out foolish.
Haha nah, it’s actually the exact opposite. You couldve been an analyst man, but yea that run game is just play ugly and even if stewart isnt healthy they still have a kid named Goodson i think. He has had a very impressive preseason and will get a few carries if Stewart is out. Jake is alright during the season but he is still no more then a guy thats hands off the ball or throws on the PA to Suba Steve. We shouldnt have much of a problem scoring, Chris Gamble is alright but we have to many weapons on the peremeter.
by birdsflyinhigh2590 on Sep 6, 2009 4:34 PM EDT reply actions
great points bye, dawk
With the way that our defense is looking right now, i’m not too confident in our run stopping ability, especially in the linebacker department.
I think, like you’ve already said, that Deangelo Williams is going to have a good game, but it’s really going to come down to our defense stopping them on 3rd downs, and putting the ball back in our offensive guys hands.
That being said, if our offense gets off to a slow start, which I sort of invision happening, I think it’ll be fairly tough to stick with these guys.
Our offense needs to stretch the field early on the make them respect our deep game and hopefully get a couple of big plays out of them. Take the winds out of their sails early and force Delhomme to put the ball in the air… and we all know what happens then…
Representing CANADA eh?
run d
our run d was the best thing about our preseason…up until the jets, we led all teams in run d…..blah blah blah, i know its preseason, but that means even our 3rd string stopping the run. hobbs won’t be out there in the reg season, so it will be back to business as usual…..i love that MACHOOOOOOOOOOOO is starting…
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Sep 7, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I really enjoyed the breakdown
It all made sense, and it didn’t leave a whole lot for me to add.
I do think the Eagles are going to have some shaky series on both sides of the ball just because there’s so many moving parts as the season approaches.
Bunkley/Patterson key players in my mind. If they can help stuff the run, we’ll be able to outscore them.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
Watch for Jonathan Stewart injury status
….adding another point on Carolina’s run-game strength which includes DeAngelo Williams AND Jonathan Stewart, possibly the best 1-2 committee in the NFL. Stewart has an achilles injury, has not played any pre-season games or practiced with the team in 2-3 weeks. If he does play on Sun, will likely be less than 100%, just my view.
I’m an Iggle fan living in NC and news on this locally from the Panthers has been a bit of a dark cloak of mystery thusfar. Check the injury reports this week, and if he plays, hope Patterson and Bunkley have a good game and Eagles can get an early lead to force Carolina into more of a passing game which is not a good matchup for them vs Philly Def.
Scoring prediction
I like your predictions. I do think the scoring will be high. I think Steve smith will be a problem unless we get pressure. Being that said we have enough weapons to dominate the scoreboard. Hopefully, “Big Red” won’t call any stupid plays in the red zone. I’m getting fed up with the red zone offense. I need to see improvement in that area. If not we will look good all season but faulter when it counts. Last few years for example. This will for sure be an exciting and very good season. Big Red, let’s make it GREAT!!
yo, bye dawk!
its bout darn time u start payin attention 2 ur league in flea flicker
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