Eagles drop preseason finale to Jets
If I had to invent a word to describe tonight, I would call it "preseasony." No name guys coming out of nowhere for big games, sloppy coverage, missed blocks, penalties... all the stuff you'd expect from a game played entirely by second, third, and fourth stringers.
There's really no point in talking about the game itself, so after the jump I have some thoughts on specific players and some position battles. The good news is that preseason is over, roster cuts come this weekend, and we've got the real thing to look forward to in a little over a week's time.
First off, see ya Lorenzo Booker. Eldra Buckley will make the team as the 3rd RB on his special teams play alone.
Michael Vick... I suppose you could say this game was more about him than maybe any other player and Vick looked like a guy who hadn't played QB in two years. He made a few decent plays with his legs including converting a third and short, a TD from the wildcat on the goal line, and a 16 yard scramble. Athletically he's not at his peak right now, but he doesn't look that far off.
As for plays with his arm, again he looked he hadn't played in two years. The game seemed to be moving too quickly for him, but that's to be expected at this point. It certainly didn't help that the blocking in front of him was absolutely terrible. He's rusty and if you didn't expect that to be the case... then you should have.
I will say... could the WildVick formation be the answer to our short yardage woes? It worked tonight?
Kevin Kolb needs to play more. His problems are all the things guys develop by playing. Sensing when the blitz is coming, knowing where to go with it when you see pressure, having that mental "clock." That's all stuff that guys get by being in games. Problem is, he may not play again until next preseason. He was under pressure all night as well, which also made it tougher to evaluate. He does need to learn to deal with that pressure better, especially learning to not run backwards!
Yes, it was somewhat satisfying to watch Jeremy Maclin draw a big PI penalty on Lito Sheppard...
Jack Ikegwuonu... Up and down for him tonight. He had a pick and a nice return afterward, but got absolutely smoked by a guy for a TD late in the game.
Brandon Gibson. I don't know exactly who's spot he's competing for(Baskett or Brown) but he's done pretty much everything he could to make the team.
Babin had a sack. There's another guy who's done pretty much everything he could to earn a roster spot.
These backup o-lineman really struggled. The Jets did blitz quite a bit for preseason, but the second and third stringers certainly didn't handle it. Kolb and Vick were under pressure all night. The backs also did a pretty bad job picking up rushers.
Tony Curtis caught a TD pass in his Eagles debut. He had 4 catches for 40 yards.
Danny Amendola looked like a guy willing to do anything to win a job out there. He did a nice job on those sweep pitch plays they ran with Vick, he was aggressive on returns, and made two catches.
I'd be remiss is I didn't mention how bad Sav Rocca was tonight. He must have shanked two or three punts tonight. Not sure what happened with him, but he struggled.
Finally, way to go Danny Woodhead of the Jets. That guy worked his tail of tonight and had a great game. Ran for 158 yards and 2 TDs. Hopefully he wins himself a job.
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Eldra Buckley cured our short yardage woes...
maybe bringing in vick to hand the ball to weaver or Buckley in short yardage means a LB has to keep an eye on him instead of reacting to the FB dive, but I don’t see Vick helping much there.
If Vick cures anything it might be closing out a game with a lead. (not that he did it tonight). We’ve always struggled to run the ball to close out a game, but I’d expect to see more of the “WildVick” when we’re trying to kill the clock more than anything else in the regular season.
by Smallbugger on Sep 3, 2009 10:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
having vick close out games is almost definite
esp. if andy is trying to up his trade value next season
RIP JJ & HK
Let the future judge Michael Vick
by BadCo'09 on Sep 4, 2009 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice Kudos to Woodhead
Kid’s in a tough position (behind Thomas Jones, Leon Wash, and now Shonn Greene), and he probably won’t make the team…but he played one heck of a ball game tonight; if this didn’t earn him a spot, then there was nothing he could have done
"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs
by jalarsen1 on Sep 3, 2009 10:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Small, Quick
and a real RB that will take a hit and run north-south between the tackles….
He’s what we thought we were going to get with Booker when we originally traded for him, lol.
by Smallbugger on Sep 3, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if he doesn't make the jets' squad...
he’ll make someone else’s. he’s small, but quick with a good football iq.
by awd777 on Sep 3, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He also ran for 8,000 yards in college
minor detail. He good.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Sep 3, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea
if he was a little bigger and went to a bigger school he would be a good rb .. hes got serious talent .. i rem sitting watching the draft .. they kept doing features on him lol he wont make the jets .. but hes good enough to play somewhere .. so is amedala .. i dunno how to spell it .. but hes reminds me a lot of wes welker .. he dont fit in here or in this offense .. but on a team like the pats or lions .. he could be a poor mans welker .. maybe a mike furrey type .. he gives his all ill tell u that .. he has some talent .. but his size hurts him
by jack is better than asante on Sep 4, 2009 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well put jibta
RIP JJ & HK
Let the future judge Michael Vick
by BadCo'09 on Sep 4, 2009 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree on Ammendola. I have respect with guys who look like the go full speed every down. That’s my only thing with Maclin right now, he doesn’t appear to be even trying. He has all this talent and he looks like he is half assing it.
Astra Inclinant, Non Necessitant
by EagleGreeninMD on Sep 4, 2009 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea
but maclin half assing it is better than ammendolas all
by jack is better than asante on Sep 4, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll take that little MF on my team any day of the week. He may be small, but he has balls the size of coconuts.
I bleed green and I piss silver and blue
by oldasquick on Sep 4, 2009 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s got a lovely bunch of coconuts- diddly dee
Astra Inclinant, Non Necessitant
by EagleGreeninMD on Sep 4, 2009 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Concerning our guys...
Going in to preseason I was excited about both Sean Jones and Demps…now…I think I expected more from both of them…starter’s a toss-up to me, with maybe the edge going to Demps.
I agree completely with both Gibson and Babin…those guys have done everything in their power to make this team. I want Gibson on the team (probably over Baskett and Brown), Babin’s tougher…I like him alot, but we’re stacked at DE…I was high on Bryan Smith coming into preseason, and at this point I’d take Babin over him, but Smith’s a young kid with some upside, and Babin’s 29 (not old now, but a year or two away from old)
Booker couldn’t beg for a spot on the team. He had one last chance tonight and he could not get around the corner on the outside, and he could not make a single defender miss on the screen. He only gained yardage off the draw up the middle…nice job Buckley…you earned it dude!
Not too excited about Gaither, though I think Bunk and Patterson up front will make his life easier than ‘07. I was excited about Mays, but dude couldn’t get it done in coverage. Fokou is an animal…he should make the team. And while I don’t think he’s made an impact in his small time here, is there any upside to Matt Wilhelm? I just haven’t seen him on the field (I haven’t been looking for him either), and I’m not sure what he brings to the table.
"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs
by jalarsen1 on Sep 3, 2009 10:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m not the biggest Kolb believer in the world, but I thought he played well.
I wonder if I can bill Jeff Lurie and Peter Angelos for the years of therapy their teams are going to put me through.
by BrianS on Sep 3, 2009 11:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He’s got an NFL arm, he knows the offense. He just needs to learn to deal with pressure and mature, which is only going to happen by playing
by JasonB on Sep 3, 2009 11:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
You’re right. His arm looks stronger than i thought it was. He seems like tries to throw while he’s backpedaling too much, which makes it look like just had a rag arm. I think he did better tonight, but still needs get that clock in his head.
I wonder if I can bill Jeff Lurie and Peter Angelos for the years of therapy their teams are going to put me through.
by BrianS on Sep 3, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I noticed that during the Baltimore debacle. All of his bad throws came off his back foot.
by JasonB on Sep 4, 2009 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
absolutely agree
i think he will be an alright qb once he gets some playing time under his belt
RIP JJ & HK
Let the future judge Michael Vick
by BadCo'09 on Sep 4, 2009 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
kolb
kolb is accurate .. hes a good qb .. he will start in this league somewhere .. hes still our future qb .. he has never even had a chance to play .. he played one half vs baltimore .. thats a hell of a way to start ur carreer .. vs that defense .. people jump to quickly on players .. everyone hates brown .. but he was hurt one season .. the others he was a productive player .. and he has talent … and babin is a lock to make this team .. i would take him over parker or bryan smith .. chris clemmons makes it by default
by jack is better than asante on Sep 4, 2009 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, I agree 2 for 2 with you in this thread.
The only thing we don’t agree on now is that Jack is better than Asante.
I think Jack made that very clear against the 3rd string receivers last night.
Astra Inclinant, Non Necessitant
by EagleGreeninMD on Sep 4, 2009 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i want to change my screen name to: Danny is better then Kevin
by fitzy first on Sep 4, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with this a lot
The good news is that preseason is over, roster cuts come this weekend, and we’ve got the real thing to look forward to in a little over a week’s time.
I’m a huge football fan, and I love breaking down who’ll make the roster, but after that … the preseason couldn’t pale more in comparison to when the games count. It just couldn’t.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Sep 3, 2009 11:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i didn't watch the game
how did winston justice play…i heard the o-line overall was bad, but i want him to because of the position situation
by immynimmy on Sep 4, 2009 12:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t notice him. I guess he played most of the first half. The pressure was worse in the second half… I dunno. He didn’t stand out as bad.
by JasonB on Sep 4, 2009 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
justice
justice got hurt and was replaced by gibson .. hes still a lock to make the team .. My boy Jack with the INT .. he should of took it to the house tho
by jack is better than asante on Sep 4, 2009 1:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What'd you think of him getting burnt?
I didn’t get to watch, just going off what I read here.
I’m glad to see Justice playing his way on to the team, first because you can never have enough good tackles on the roster and second because I’d rather not see that second-round pick turn out to be a waste.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Sep 4, 2009 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think McGlynn filled in for justice
by fitzy first on Sep 4, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no such thing as a kudos
after that horrible blown coverage on..87.lol cant remember his name, but wow..wide open
by rainvillefromottawa on Sep 4, 2009 1:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anybody notice...
how King Dunlap towers over everybody on the field? He is gigantic and muscular not fat like Peters lol. He did ok as a backup LT.
Felix is better than Brian. You can call me FIBTB.
by Route36 on Sep 4, 2009 2:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I bet he gets 1 more year to work on his technique before he gets cut
About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.
by IronHank on Sep 4, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WRs
I’m pissed that we have so many WRs playing well (Avant, Gibson, Ammendola) but that we can’t keep them because they all play the slot. And the ones we want to get rid of Brown/Baskett are the outside guys.
Hoping Gibson can play the outside.
by DLawrence on Sep 4, 2009 10:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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