Is Kevin Kolb the future of our franchise?
by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 10:21 AM EDT
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Over the pas two weeks we got a good look at what may be the future of our franchise. With Kolb, Jackson, Maclin all playing, and the great play by TE Celek. Philly fans have got to be giddy about the prospects of our future. I know there were some Nay sayers who doubted Andy Reid for his strategy in drafting and releasing players, but just look at yesterday, McNabb, Westbrook were both injured, we have no Runyan and Tra and the only from yesterday that started opening game last year was Jamal Jackson and DeSean Jackson, everyone else was brand new, and this team still looked good, that was a completely different team yesterday than the team we saw in the playoffs. I think I am excited from what I saw.
But lets try this poll again, I want to rate what our confidence in Kolb is. Be honest in your voting, I want to gage the pulse of the fans.
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Everyone here know I have always been a Kolb supporter,
Of course, (without hating on Donovan). I feel so vindicated. Hats off to most of the BGN vets who kept an open mind. Please fellas, give me your feedback on this guys. Either positive or negative. I’m still now sure if Kolb has won over the fans yet? I need to see.
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 10:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If you are Andy, what do you do with our QB situation?
If there are any trades, whats the value you are looking for in return?
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 10:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Somebody will act up.
Andy will keep Donovan starting unless he gets hurt or he stops producing.
Both Vick and Kolb have the skills to be starters somewhere else. I think that one or the other is going to push for a trade next year, and rightly so. They should be starters. Plus, it is possible that D.McNabb could finally become fed up with the poor treatment he gets from some of our fans or be pissed about Vick getting to many WildEagle calls. You never can tell.
In either event, our weakness at the end of the season is usually much different than our weakness at the beginning. (for example: Bradley and Ingram will probably be back and that means we won’t need a middle LB or a backup TE.)
Expect Andy to be a master card player again. He just gets better and better at this. Look at the last two drafts and the trade for Peters.
by IggleGrrrreen(F-da-rest!) on Sep 28, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I draft Safety, LB, and RB next year. also a backup Guard, and Tackle, K, and P
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely will be drafting a LB…and I have to agree with RB and OL dept as well. I also think we need to keep drafting elite DL…you can tell that when our DLine dominates their OL we dominate the game. Don’t think we are the kind of team that wastes picks on a kicker or a punter.
by Clyde Simmons on Sep 28, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe undrafted guys come in as K or punter. But we needs new ones badly.
First pick for me is DE,
Second round Safetie, and CB (we have 2 picks this year, thanks Lito)
then 3rd round RB. Its hard to find a good one past the 3rd round. I also draft a new SLB. (we have 2 3rd rounder this year, thanks NYG, enjoy Bardem).
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no wedont
we do not get a second round pick for lito dude
by jack is better than asante on Sep 28, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought we do if he starts 85% of his games? Correct me if I'm wrong?
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, that’s not it. It’s actually really complicated (and I don’t remember the details), but the most likely scenario will be a 4th rounder.
Bye, Big Stew and JJ :(
by Bye, Dawk :( on Sep 28, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea not to mention Lito is already injured and missed this past week it’s not looking good.
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Sep 28, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way!
Sheppard injured?!?!? Who would have thought? That’s almost as surprising as LJ Smith being injured.
Bye, Big Stew and JJ :(
by Bye, Dawk :( on Sep 28, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
McNabb's our Qb but..
It’s exciting to see Kolb performing well. It’s hard to say if he’s our QB of the future with only 2 starts under his belt but I’d definately say he’s convinced more people now then when he was just throw into the fire when mcnabb was benched/injured in previous games.
I can see Kolb as our starter EVENTUALLY and I’m sure he’s going to have his chance later on. Right now he’s strictly McNabb’s backup though and I don’t think anyone would argue with that.
by Q27 on Sep 28, 2009 10:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
As far as Kolb goes...
I’ve always liked the dude. Thought he was drafted too high, but always rooted for him.
My thoughts: play Kolb against Tampa and let McNabb rest another 2 weeks. This would give Kolb two games against some weaker comp to get his confidence up, improve and let Reid evaluate him and the other young guys who played well yesterday. No sense in rushing McNabb back for an otherwise winnable game.
If nothing else, I think Kolb’s earned a longer look.
by DLawrence on Sep 28, 2009 10:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We have a great problem
We have a Top 10 NFL QB (and that’s not debatable) in McNabb, we have what looks to be a bona fide legitimate NFL starter in Kolb, and a former #1 overall pick who, if he regain his form of years ago, is yet another QB who would start on more than half the teams in this league. I’m extremely excited at this point.
If I’m the Eagles GM, Kolb right now is untouchable. I’d have to be totally blown away with a great offer to even consider it – I’m not even sure I’d take a 1 for him right now. I realize that yeah, it’s been 2 games, and he played against 2 below average defenses, but good QB’s don’t just grow on trees, and the Eagles have so much time invested in grooming him that it would be a complete waste of time and effort to just deal him for a pick.
McNabb will be 33 in November. He’s our guy this year. He’s probably our guy next year, but I’m not so sure about 2011. He wins a championship in the next 2 years, I have to imagine he stays. If he doesn’t, I think it’s Kolb’s team.
As for Vick, I’d love to see him light someone up one week and boost his value. There’s a lot of crappy QB’s out there, and if Vick can show that he can be what he was a few years ago, maybe we can deal him for… a 2? A 1? Who knows?
Bye, Big Stew and JJ :(
by Bye, Dawk :( on Sep 28, 2009 10:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I gotta think that the Rams are looking at hard really hard.
Former Eagles assistant, and west coast team (at least I believe they are west coast). Brad has gotta be killing himself for giving Favre to years.
If I were St Louis going into the draft, I would offer a 2nd and a 3rd for Kolb. Its hard to part with that one, but not impossible, as Kolb is groomed and ready to ride, where Colt McCoy and Sam Bradford will take them a year or 2 to develope.
It would be hard for me to trade Kolb, because eventually we will have to cross that McNabb bridge, and its hard to find a good QB, especially when we are drafting late. somethings gotta give here though.
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what
farve has played great .. are u kidding me .. they are 3-0
by jack is better than asante on Sep 28, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is playing off the chain this year.
But he is 40 years old, you gotta rebuild eventually, it would be nice to have a young guy in there. But Favre’s got a 2 year deal. So I would imagine that a young guy like Kolb would be a better fit for a young team like the Vikings.
Imagine Kolb, Harvin and Peterson for the future. Not too bad.
Although with Favre, they win more now.
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think
there’s any way we trade Kolb…he’s our Aaron Rodgers.
If anything, we showcase Vick and trade him
"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs
by jalarsen1 on Sep 28, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
there’s any way we trade Kolb…he’s our Aaron Rodgers
I’m really glad I’m not the only one who thinks this.
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Sep 28, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm with you
I used the same analogy somewhere yesterday
by eagleyosh on Sep 28, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t go that far. He hasn’t played “great.” They played the Browns and Lions the first 2 weeks.
Bye, Big Stew and JJ :(
by Bye, Dawk :( on Sep 28, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea
he has good stats … and that fourth quarter comeback yesterday was legendary
by jack is better than asante on Sep 28, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and that fourth quarter comeback Greg Lewis’ catch yesterday was legendary
Bye, Big Stew and JJ :(
by Bye, Dawk :( on Sep 28, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
reminded me of Jabar Gafneys big catch.
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he has good stats
You really need to look this stuff up before you say stuff it just makes you look ignorant. I’m not trying to be mean, but you really can’t just make statements like that.
Brett Favre
vs Cle – 14-21 110 yards 1 TD
vs Det – 23-27 155 yards 2 TD
vs SF – 24-46 301 yards 2 TDs 1 INT
While those stats aren’t bad … I don’t think those stats against those teams qualify as good numbers.
But if you mean he has good stats in that he isn’t throwing picks like the normal Brett than you are correct but he started out like this last year with the Jets.
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Sep 28, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't never really looked up his stats, and am blow away on how average they are.
I thought he was playing lights out from all of the highlights I see. Although his numbers aren’t bad, they are average agains below average teams. Thats surprising to me.
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea
those are good numberswhen ur rb is peterson and u dont throw .. and ur wrs are average at best
by jack is better than asante on Sep 28, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Harvin man.
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you’re QB throws for 110 yards against most teams you aren’t winning that game, that’s JeMarcus Russell, Brady Quinn bad.
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Sep 28, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
was writing something very similar to this, I gotta agree with you
If Im the GM:
Showcase Vick then trade him in the offseason.
Keep Kolb around for as long as we can
See how Donavan plays this year and next, if he wins a title let him retire an Eagle, if not franchise him when his contract is up and trade him.
by Tron79 on Sep 28, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Kolb fits into the WCO better than McNabb personally. I would be inclined to find a trade partner at the end of this year if Kolb get a few more starts and plays well. Draft picks are money and we have been spending them really well recently.
by Clyde Simmons on Sep 28, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HA
I just posted the same thing on showcasing and trading Vick before I read your post…
I don’t think we trade Kolb at all
"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs
by jalarsen1 on Sep 28, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On a side note...
That draft day trade with Dallas is looking a lot better. Dallas got Anthony Spencer – We got Kevin Kolb and Stewart Bradley. Not bad.
Bye, Big Stew and JJ :(
by Bye, Dawk :( on Sep 28, 2009 10:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And Demps…which looked alot better a year ago.
by Clyde Simmons on Sep 28, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Demps was the next year. The 3rd guy in the Kolb/Bradley/Spencer trade was CJ Gaddis, who never made the team.
Bye, Big Stew and JJ :(
by Bye, Dawk :( on Sep 28, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
CJ sucked badly bro.
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
can’t blame them for trying to get another safety out of Clemson … it worked last time.
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"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Sep 28, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude was the top highschool prospect going to clemson.
He was a QB, but sucked at the college level, they had to move him. He was a great athlete though. He’s probrably subbing as a teacher somewhere.
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah I was referring to Dawkins.
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"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Sep 28, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know, I was just remembering how excited I was when we drafted Gaddis.
I was gonna buy a BDawk Clemson jersey on ebay. That thing is beautiful.
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, how bout that.
And remember when Andy said he had Kolb rated higher than Brady Quinn, people were scratching their heads.
Well both Russel and Quinn suck, Kolb and Trent Edwards are the only 2 QB worth sniffing from that draft.
Good job Andy for not listening to us moronic fans. I wanted Meacham (who isn’t bad) or Greg Olsen or Paul Puslusni.
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 starts
against poor defenses does not a HOF-er make.
That being said, I think Kolb will be a fine QB, espicially in the West Coast system like this. He certainly rests a lot of worries I have had about not being able to start. I’m not ready to say he’s going to be a full time starter in this league, but I’m not ready to say he’s not, either.
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by NJBammer on Sep 28, 2009 11:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We need to calm down.
Perhaps Kolb is not as bad as I thought. Perhaps he is. As NJBammer said, two starts against poor defenses does not a hall of famer make. Some of you are ready to drive him to Canton. Donovan is LIGHT YEARS better than Kolb, but when he gets off to his traditional slow start, some idiots will start screaming for Kolb. With the number of teams seeking decent QB help, it would be prudent to trade Kolb for picks (Al Davis, I’m looking in your direction) and keep Donovan for years to come. He’s still young and how long do you intend to keep Kolb on the shelf? 4 more seasons?
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by EvilBanner on Sep 28, 2009 11:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
While I agree you keep McNabb at all costs at some point they will need to make the switch over and McNabbs health has to be a part of the decision making process. I don’t ever want to see McNabb wear another teams Jersey but that’s my emotions talking.
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Sep 28, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, so then here's my question
We both agree that Donovan is the best QB for this team. When’s the switch over? Donovan’s unrelated-to-each-other injuries aside, he takes good care of himself and I can see him playing well into his late 30’s. What happens to Kolb then? Do you see Kolb developing into the type of weapon that McNabb is?
"Right now Winston Justice is the guy...until that person gets back out there"
by EvilBanner on Sep 28, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont' see Kolb even sniffing McNabbs draws, but he can develope to be a good player.
Breese should be his role model, and how he makes the best of what he is.
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see Kolb
as a developing into a good QB in this league…I don’t see the skill set that McNabb has, and I can’t imagine that he will ever find the success that McNabb has found…however, McNabb’s success has often come b/c of his incredible talent…
Kolb may find success b/c of a stronger supporting cast around him
McNabb is our man, the best QB to win now…if we don’t get to the Superbowl these next two years, I think (and I may eat my words) that I’d be willing to move on
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by jalarsen1 on Sep 28, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, we agree partially for the first time.
I think that St Luis has gotta be calling.
Although, we keep taking away from Kolb’s performance by saying they were bad Defenses. In his defense, if McNabb had produced the same, the bad defense arguement would have never been brought up. We would be talking about how great McNabb looked. As every good QB put up numbers on bad teams. Just look at Peyton Manning and how he kills bad teams and pad up those stats. Why not Kolb.
Also, even though previous backups have performed will for us while McNabb has been hurt, I can’t recall any backups totally dominating any teams. (Not Garcia, Feeley, Detmer), although they were all efficient, non dominated like Kolb.
Also, consider that at this point, Kolb is ranked # 12 in the entire NFL in passing, ahead of Eli and some other QB, that being said, he played less time that most players that where top 10.
Not a bad start I would say.
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, and think of what St Louis and Oakland would give for Kolb
Two HORRIBLE front offices (at least in the past 5 years), two wretched franchises, two teams with absolutely nothing at the QB position. I think everyone agrees with the fact that Jamarcus is a big time bust…and let me throw the Titans into the mix. How long can Kerry “I’ve had way to many Tom” Collins’ continue to STAND, much less play QB? Vince Young is trash, and the Titans are desperate
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by EvilBanner on Sep 28, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that would be a feather in Andy's hat if he trades him to Oakland.
Being Russell was rated #1, and Eagles had Kolb ranked #2 above Quinn. Andy knows QB, gotta give him that.
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Vince is trash too
but I also think he’ll be starting to Tennessee within a few weeks
"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs
by jalarsen1 on Sep 28, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
kolb
kolb will most likely be the starter next season .. mcnabb gets one more shot to win the superbowl .. at the very most mcnabb comes back for next year .. kolb is and has been our future qb .. ive been saying it for weeks .. after the detroit game everyone was saying he was a joke .. he sucks .. play garcia etc. evil banner said he wasnt an nfl qb .. there was very few people who defended kolb .. now all of a sudden you all love him .. thank u evil banner ..atleast ur sticking to ur opinion that u dont think kolb is the greatest thing ..i respect that .. i disagree tho .. i wouldnt trade kolb for a first right now .. hes better than matt cassell .. and he is a smiliar situation to aaron rodgers
by jack is better than asante on Sep 28, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know I have always been on Kolbs side.
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think most people on BGN
have been solid Kolb supporters…at least they weren’t quick to throw him under the bus without any starts
"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs
by jalarsen1 on Sep 28, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what
come on bro .. me yophillybro and like 3 others tops .. everyone else threw him under the bus .. yophilly back me up on this .. how many people were with us .. we were the only one defending kolb .. after week one no one even wanted him to start!
by jack is better than asante on Sep 28, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whodie126 stepped in, and Jalarsen1 chimed in.
But there was a hand full of morons coming out the woodwork chirping about the picks, and the 100 garbage time yards.
I would say about 5-8, all BGN vets though, there weren’t many new people applauding Kolb.
But before the saints game, only about 4 or 5 max.
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think there were an overwhelming number of people that were bashing Kolb. There were definitely some knuckleheads, but it wasn’t the majority.
I know I certainly never bashed him.
Bye, Big Stew and JJ :(
by Bye, Dawk :( on Sep 28, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
before the NO game, the supporters were in the minority.
Tons of fans were questioning Kolb over Garcia, the vets had to step in and support Andy, not really Kolb. But I think Kevin has won some fans over.
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree. There were definitely some misinformed people calling for Garcia, but it was hardly the majority. Not even close.
Bye, Big Stew and JJ :(
by Bye, Dawk :( on Sep 28, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe you are right, I just remember it differently. But its all relative to what I remember the most. I just remember the nay sayers. But maybe it wasn’t as as bad as I thought
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, here’s a post where someone said Garcia should start and the majority disagreed…
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2009/9/22/1050797/jeff-garcia
Bye, Big Stew and JJ :(
by Bye, Dawk :( on Sep 28, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was after the Saints game. Read through the comments in these:
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2009/9/15/1032430/garcia-or-kolb
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2009/9/13/1028998/like-it-or-not-kolbs-the-man
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by yomjoseki on Sep 28, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never bashed Kolb but to be honest i didn’t have much confidence going into week two. To be honest he still has to show me some before I sing the praises. I’d take a middle of the round one at the end of the season for him. Also I’d be calling Miami and Oakland tomorrow to see if we could score a two for Vick now and keep Garcia as the third QB.
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by no1pipelayer on Sep 29, 2009 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
before Kolbs starts, most absolutely trashed Kolb, and kept refering to Baltimore.
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes
thats wha im saying .. it was prob like90 percent of the people .. the same 90 percent who trashed justice .. atleast evil banner says he still dont like him .. i respect evil banner .. he dont change his opinion like that ..
by jack is better than asante on Sep 28, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, its good when people stick by their guns.
Dawk says it was n’t that bad, I guess I gotta believe him, but I remember most trashing Kolb, but maybe I have selective memory. I fealt like I was on an island. At least before the NO game, most were questioning why we started Kolb instead of Garcia.
However, most vets (90%) did support Kolb, dispite of the Garcia signing. The vets here really know football. This site is way more objective and informed that WIP. They don’t know football. I bet Angelo can’t tell you want a cover to is.
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was one of those who said I was not impressed with Kolb. But I also added that I supported him and would keep an open-mind but my expectations were VERY low. I was pleasantly surprised and can admit I was semi-wrong. Its still hard to judge someone by only playing two games. But I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt from now on cause he has deserved it.
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by Eaglesgrl5 on Sep 28, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its still hard to judge someone by only playing two games
It’s funny because a lot of people had no problem judging him over a few series of garbage work.
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Sep 28, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
touche
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by Eaglesgrl5 on Sep 29, 2009 8:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
McNabb has 2 years left on his contract.
Bye, Big Stew and JJ :(
by Bye, Dawk :( on Sep 28, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea
but he could be traded or released .. or they could say that there is a competiton in camp .. lots could happen
by jack is better than asante on Sep 28, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Competition
I don’t think Andy is a quarterback competition type of coach
by AZ Eagle on Sep 28, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think every good coach loves competition is every way, shape, and form.
Bye, Big Stew and JJ :(
by Bye, Dawk :( on Sep 28, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am first
to admit i was a Kolb hater. But “Honey Kolb” has showed he can play. I still want to see him play a really good “D”…. but he really impressed me Sunday. +1 to you YPB you’ve been saying it for a while now.
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by Ewizzy21 on Sep 28, 2009 11:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to keep Kolb
But if he plays well, say, in a few more games this year, do you really think he’ll just up and resign with the Birds? Or test the market? There are plenty of dumb teams out there that would overpay for him with a contract than they would in trade.
Minnesota would be perfect. Favre would be gone, so they’d have $25M back in their pockets. Same system, good run game and O line to keep him safe. Seattle’d be nice to. Maybe even San Francisco or Arizona
He’d be dumb not to test the market if he continues to even be modestly successful. Iggles may well be forced to trade one of them (McNabb or Kolb).
by DLawrence on Sep 28, 2009 12:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Plenty of dumb teams indeed
We need only to look at our recent opponents and the Matt Cassel experiment to see the flaws of poor financial moves.
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by EvilBanner on Sep 28, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the chiefs where stupid with that Cassel deal. Like Kolb, he is a system guy.
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It looks like we agree for the second time.
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by EvilBanner on Sep 28, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still think you are evil, but can make sense sometime :P
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or am I getting closer to (The Dark side)
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he is a RFA, he doesn't have a choice but to resign.
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kolb has the same choice as anyone who signs a contract
Play out the string and head to free agency (whenever that may be — I think end of next season) or re-sign with the Eagles. Talk to Michael Lewis about those choices. Or Dawkins.
by DLawrence on Sep 28, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we could match, since he's RFA, so he's gotta get blown away.
Thats not impossible though. He may be due for big cash now.
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tag him possibly
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by Whodie126 on Sep 28, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tagging QB’s isn’t cheap. That’ll run you about $20 mil.
Bye, Big Stew and JJ :(
by Bye, Dawk :( on Sep 28, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
may be the cheapest solution for Kolbs contract.
With Vick set to make 5 plus next year. Kolb is up for RFA, Eagles will have to match his money.
Whats the compensation if he goes?
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
RFA contracts are really cheap.
Bye, Big Stew and JJ :(
by Bye, Dawk :( on Sep 28, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rules will be slightly different this year because of the CBA. Hardly anyone will change teams that isn’t cut.
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by yomjoseki on Sep 28, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what are you thinking. He'll get as much as a team is willing to pay.
Lets say STL is interested, that compensation pick may not be a big deal, unless its a first rounder. Than that will make you back off, unless you don’t like the draft of just have to win now.
What kind of cash is Kolbs recent performances gonna cost the Eagles?
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let’s say St. Louis IS interested. They’re going to give up a top 10 pick to get him? No freaking way.
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by yomjoseki on Sep 28, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes way!!!! Way yes way.
They would be looking to trade down anyway, get a good QB and only pay him 7 mil in opposed to signed McCoy who is unproven for about 12 mil a year.
Yes way.
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beat Me to it
You always hear stories around draft time about teams with the high ones trying to trade out of them but finding no takers. Cleveland basically gave away their pick this year.
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by no1pipelayer on Sep 29, 2009 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They can eat the financial loss. Consider it a punishment for putting a bad team on the field. And don’t say it has anything to do with the salary cap. The salary cap is light years ahead of player salaries.
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by yomjoseki on Sep 29, 2009 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I realize that but I would expect a tag … and then renegotiate into long term deal. Who knows but this would be the year to lock him up.
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by Whodie126 on Sep 28, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem with tagging a guy like Kolb...
Is that you’d have to give him a contract offer that would make him say “Hmmm… $20 million for one year, orrrrr….”
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by Bye, Dawk :( on Sep 28, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he is an UFA not a RFA so we’d be handcuffed.
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by Whodie126 on Sep 28, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how can you tell what he will be next year. I haven't seen much.
But if he is, we are screwed. He can hold the FO hostage now, or threaten to go FA. I would force them to trade McNabb next year if they wanted me to redo my deal, why would he want to ride the bench again next year?
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
UFA (Unrestricted free agent)
A player who has completed four or more accrued seasons and whose contract has expired.
RFA (Restricted free agent)
A player who has completed three accrued seasons and whose contract has expired.
He signed a 4 year deal so he will have had 4 accrued seasons at the expiration of his contract.
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by Whodie126 on Sep 28, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we are screwed then. There will be no compensation if he goes.
You would have to redo him now, next year the price goes up. And lets hope there is no tampering.
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He may get franchised in that case.
Wow, what a difference a game makes. He is 1 injury away from being forgotten and let go as a FA, later to sign a back up contract for not much.
But now he’s hot stuff, (I would hope not to suite up for the rest of the year, as not to dimish his value) and ride this 1 game to the bank.
What kind of money is he gonna extort from us? Do we get a hometown discount? Or Do we trade him, or trade Mcnabb? Very confusing scenario. But somthings gonna happen this offseason, bigger than any other, ever.
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i bet
he gets franchised .. just like cassel did .. and then we trade mcnabb .. makes the msot sense
by jack is better than asante on Sep 28, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's gonna get crazy cash bro.
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In an uncapped year (which next year is looking like) you would need 5 years of service to get unrestricted free agency.
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by no1pipelayer on Sep 29, 2009 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think so, it will have to happen before the year finishes.
I think some team may want to pay the high compensation just to get out of that pick.
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats top 5 number, correct? Thats killer bro.
I need to take the car for a spin before I drop that kind of cash.
What would he get in FA, I imagine he may have to be promised to start and need to redo his deal soon. If not, he will easily get Cassel type of money. That would blow us out of the water and have to step back.
If we want him cheap, they need to play him more to be sure, and redo that deal asap. Somebody will not think and throw him monster cash. If we tag him, it still a major hit.
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kolb picked a good time to get hot.
He can storm in the front office at the end of the year and offer to go RFA and argue that he will sign for about 7 mil at Seattle, and Seattle just pays the compensation on that.
At least we can match, maybe we can figure this out before these numbers take off. Like Cassels did.
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the Eagles offered Kolb the highest possible RFA contract tender (which would still be relatively cheap), a team like Seattle would have to forfeit (2) #1draft picks to us if they signed him and we chose not to match.
Bye, Big Stew and JJ :(
by Bye, Dawk :( on Sep 28, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think for RFA’s it’s a 1st and a 3rd, not two 1st round picks. I think the 2 first round picks is for franchise players. At least that’s what I remember from playing Madden, lol.
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by yomjoseki on Sep 28, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
correct 1st and a 3rd
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by Whodie126 on Sep 28, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If a team identifies him as the QB to go with. They will do it.
Just to get out of that pick, and consider it as a trade with Philly. But you don’t have to pay as much as you would by signing that rookie pick anyway. Not a bad deal for a bad team, even at the high price.
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Eagles would lick their chops at a top 10 pick. They’d probably turn that into a 1st and a 3rd, and then trade the first for 2 second round picks, and that third for a second round pick next year… etc, etc.
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by yomjoseki on Sep 28, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we'd just trade it anyway. (Your right)
we may have 500 picks before the end of the year.
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trade him straight up for Crabtree
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by DLawrence on Sep 28, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crabtree's gotta be signed first.
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right... It's a 1 and a 3...
This is a little dated (2005), so these $ numbers are probably not accurate, but you get the idea…
Restricted Free Agents (RFA)
A Restricted Free Agent is an NFL player who is not under contract, but has only three years of NFL experience. The signing period for restricted free agents begins on March 2 and concludes on April 15. If his previous team has made him a Qualifying Offer, then that team has a right of first refusal on the player. This means the player may negotiate with other teams and receive an offer, however the previous team may agree to the offer that the player has received, in which case the player stays with his former team. Of course there are lots of games played, the prospective new team will attempt to structure the offer so that it is very unpalatable to the new team. For example, a team with a lot of cap room can offer a large salary and small signing bonus which is difficult for another team to match. Or a team with a very bad record can offer a large bonus based on winning 10 games, which would be unlikely to be earned on the new team but perhaps likely to be earned on the original team, thus making the offer have a large cap number.
There are three levels of Qualifying Offer. Each level has an associated salary which is part of the CBA. In 2005 the three qualifying offer levels are $656,000, $1.43M, and $1.9M.
If the team offers the player the lowest qualifying salary, then that’s the player’s salary if he gets no offers in free agency. If he gets an offer, his current team has a choice: they can match the offer exactly, or they can let the player go, in which case they will get a draft pick from the new team which is the same as the draft pick they used to get the player. If the player was selected in the 6th round, then the old team gets the new team’s 6th round draft pick in the next year. If the player was undrafted, the old team gets no draft pick.
If the team offers the player the middle level salary, then that’s the player’s salary if he gets no offers. If he gets an offer, then the old team can match the offer. If they do not, then the old team gets a 1st round draft pick from the new team.
If the team offers the player the top level qualifying offer, then that’s the player’s salary if he gets no offers. If the old team does not match an offer, then they get a 1st round and a 3rd round draft pick from the new team.
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by Bye, Dawk :( on Sep 28, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the deal is a first and 3rd
I’d take that deal in a New York minute. I don’t think even STL is that dumb. But for a decent team with QB holes and low picks (ARZ or MIN) they might do it.
by DLawrence on Sep 28, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not impossible for a QB who threw 750 yards, 4 td, 1 rushing, sacked 2 X in 2 games.
Plus, consider the fact he studied under McNabb and Reid.
Thats a darn good deal for the Rams.
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, the Rams offensive coordinator WAS the QB coach here since Childress left, I believe.
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by yomjoseki on Sep 28, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would be scouting him hard if I were them.
Bleep that pick, they can’t afford it anyway. Either call Andy for a trade, or sign him as a RFA and pay the compensation.
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no way
we are not getting a top 10 pick for kolb .. lets be reasonable.. the very most would be a late first early second … its mroe likely we keep him tho.. this top 10 is nonsense .. i love kolb .. but no way any team would do that .. not even the raiders
by jack is better than asante on Sep 28, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was just saying, if STL was gonna trade,
they have had a series of top ten picks, and there is no way they can affod to keep picking that high and not be financially strapped. Its would have been unlikely though, but would have made sence if Kolb was RFA.
But that not the case, I hear Kolb is UFA, so the scenerio is no good anyway. I just woudln’t have discounted the idea, just as far as a money move. But like I said, it dosn’t matter anyway.
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They have about 100 million tied up on Long and Jason Smith from the last two drafts. That hasn’t worked out that great for them so far.
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by no1pipelayer on Sep 29, 2009 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what
that worked out fine .. theyare building blocks!
by jack is better than asante on Sep 29, 2009 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just saying, If I were Stl, I would really try to dump
that pick and ask for little financial obligation in return. But I am thinking on the fly, maybe could have used more thought on that.
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
if u wanted to trade kolb and our late first for their top 5 pick .. makes sense .. a top 5 pick for kolb is a joke .. they can afford these guys .. they will keep picking ..its how u get better
by jack is better than asante on Sep 28, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
arizona?
hey ill take a first and lienart .. lienart isn that bad
by jack is better than asante on Sep 28, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would do that in a minute.
Andy loves Leinart, big time. He was gonna draft him if he slipped to 12 that year we drafted Bunkley.
He’s got a crush on Leinart.
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you a Seattle, Tenn, StL, Oak,
Do you draft McCoy of Bradford, of trade for Kolb who is trained, kinda proven and ready to ride. Easy sell to me, especially with his stats as bloated as they are. (Dude has got Timmy Changish stats)
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 12:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what would we even want for Kolb?
I hope we keep this guy. Maybe McNabb plays til his late 30s, and maybe he misses 2-4 games every year til his late 30s. Personally, I say screw that risk. Keep Kolb — what the hell would we get for him, anyway? He’s not at peak value, doesn’t have a year of exceptional play under his belt a la Cassel, but it’s obvious that he has the talent to be a star in this league.
If you have that type of player, the last thing you do is trade him before he hits peak talent. Right now, the team that Kevin Kolb is most valuable to is the Philadelphia Eagles. If anyone goes, I suspect it will be Vick (salary issues + the fact that he is not our type of QB, and we currently have him in to run a package Donovan could just as easily run… Vick’s a luxury, as opposed to Kolb, who is a necessity).
by Alon on Sep 28, 2009 12:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Matt Schaub
This reminds me of the falcons situation with Matt Schaub so much, I just looked and they ended up getting two second rounders and swapped firsts with the texans to get rid of him.
He was a third round pick.
Atlanta is in good shape now, but if Matt Ryan wouldn’t have worked out would they regret this trade. Quarterbacks are so important I really am not sure how to approach this situation in the future, though I dont think the Eagles will lose McNabb to a prison sentence.
by Tron79 on Sep 28, 2009 12:32 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
This is a good point
And Alon’s too. What did Feeley have, 4 good games? And Miami flipped us a 2nd? No way that happens again without some serious evaluations on the part of any team interested in Kolb. Schaub had a whole lot of pub around him for years as “the best backup in the NFL” (why, I never knew). But if the Birds can get 2 2nds for him — unlikely — they may well pull the trigger on that. But like Tron pointed out, I wouldn’t like to regret that decision once McNabb goes down for a LONG time and all we have is Adam DiMichele and probably Feeley again.
The part that worries me is that the Eagles may not hold his rights when he’s at his peak value. If he plays out until he hits UFA, then they’ll have to bid for him…to have him play backup for another 2-3 years? Kolb won’t want any part of that if he can start somewhere else. Best case scenario, he’s just good enough for teams not to pay too much attention. Worst case, he’ll be in high demand and so will McNabb, and we’ll have to make a tough choice or which UFA to pay.
by DLawrence on Sep 28, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
first 100 votes in
34% think Kolb is QB of the future
30% think he should start somewhere other than Philly, but is definately a starter.
So far, 64% think Kolb should be a starter in the NFL.
7% think Kolb isn’t a starter, but love him as our back up.
So in total, 71% are please with Kolb, think he should either start, or just like him enough for our team.
2% think he is a bum, but still an NFL qb, just as a backup.
27 % are still undecided. Need to see more
No one believes he is not an NFL QB, only 2
In total
71% approve of Kolb,
27% need to see more to appove,
2% disapprove of him,
100% believe he belongs somewhere in the NFL.
Congratulations to Kolb for working on getting the fans approval.
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 12:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was impressed but I think we will trade him in the off-season probably to the Rams since they desperately need a QB and our old QB coach is there OC so it would be a good fit for Kevin
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by The Legend on Sep 28, 2009 1:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Imagine what McNabb would have done as a rookie QB had he had a DeSean Jackson or Brent Celek as his weapons. He had Jed Weaver, Torrance Small and Charles Johnson.
by doubleh on Sep 28, 2009 2:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah, Kolb is given a much better team than McNabb. Its sad for McNabb.
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, we’ve all seen what McNabb can do when he’s healthy and given really good weapons…
by doubleh on Sep 28, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Andy finally started addressing offense, after 8 years. He always drafted Linement and Dbacks.
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I understand why, because the O-line is so important for everything he does, but a WCO desperately needs a playmaking TE, which the Eagles have not really had during much of Andy’s tenure. And no need to rehash the WR saga; it’s really quite amazing what McNabb did with so little for such a long time there, but it probably was helped out by much of the NFC East being so bad in the early aughts.
by doubleh on Sep 28, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I must have some sort of attachment disorder. I don’t want them to trade Kolb because he’s growing, he knows Reids system and he has proved himself capable of playing when we need him to step up. But I don’t see McNabb going anywhere either. Vick will be traded the end of this year and Garcia will be released soon. I don’t see Big Red putting in all this work with Kolb, to trade him and start all over. I guess we’ll all just have to wait and see. Maybe its not an attachment disorder but just me being selfish :-)
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by Eaglesgrl5 on Sep 28, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we have reached 200 votes.
72% approve of Kolb as a NFL QB, and wouldn’t mind him with the Eagles.
26 % still undecided
Kolb has really won over some fans.
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by yophillybro on Sep 28, 2009 4:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yes kevin kolb
take it to the nay-sayers!
by eagleyosh on Sep 28, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For anyone who is wondering how the majority of this site felt before the Saints game:
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2009/9/15/1032430/garcia-or-kolb
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2009/9/13/1028998/like-it-or-not-kolbs-the-man
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by yomjoseki on Sep 28, 2009 5:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kolb might not just be the future
Not only might he be the future, he may be the present.
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