What are your expectations for Michael Vick tonight?
by JasonB on Aug 27, 2009 9:00 AM EDT
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PrintTonight, Michael Vick makes his Eagles debut. Other than that fact, we don't know much else. We know that he's going to play with the starters, but that's it. Andy Reid refused to get into any specifics as to how Vick would be used or how much he would play.
So let's use this as an open thread to answer the following questions.
How will Vick look athletically after two years away from the game?
How many times will he throw the ball vs how many times he runs?
Will he be used in the wildcat at the same time McNabb is on the field?
And finally, what is it you'd like to see from Vick?
Personally, all I care about right now is how he looks athletically. The guy has been away from football for 2 years and when he did play he was the type of player who relied almost exclusively on his natural athleticism. If he can't get back to the level he was at, I don't see how he can be effective at all. But if he's already anywhere close to the Vick of old in terms of speed... then we could be in for some very exciting things this year.
I don't expect him to be at full speed already... but I'd like to see that he's getting there.
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Honestly, I have no idea what to expect at all...
We’re in totally uncharted waters here. I’m just gonna sit back, relax, and watch it unfold.
Bye, Big Stew and JJ :(
What would I like to see from him? I would like to see 1 reception, 1 completion and 1 decent run, à la Kordell Stewart from his Slash days. Even if this is not how they plan to use him in the regular season, showing a little bit of everything now will have a strong carry over into the regular season regarding how defenses set up when Vick gets in the game, and keep the opposing D players second guessing regardless of where he lines up.
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Honestly, I don’t think that because he has been out of the game for two years means he will be out of shape. If he has been working hard enough he could be back into tip top 30 days after he got out of prison. I have never been to prison but I can’t imagine they don’t let you walk around or exercise and I’m sure he had nothing else to do. I expect him to be able to run… and fast!
Throwing the ball might be a different story. He could still have the strength in his arm but we all know balance and accuracy goes away with time if not practicing and he will have to focus on that a lot more since he’s been away from the game. I expect him to run more than throw, but if Reid is smart – and since preseason games are for practice, he should probably throw just as much as he runs.
The wildcat formation. There are a lot of options here and I would like to see all of them implemented. Handing off, running and throwing.
I just want to see a good game! Starters for 3 quarters will give me a better idea of how we are looking. Especially with the return of Westbrook and Andrews.
GO EAGLES!
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
I’d like to see that all the time he’s reportedly put into polishing is quarterbacking skills and studying the playbook is paying off. I know he can run, I want to see if he can stand in the pocket and throw accurately as well.
And if he could sic a pit bull on Jerry Mondeshire, that would be really just super.
Can I just say, that every pic I see of him on the main board with that visor and that uniform throwing look so bad ass.
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by EagleGreeninMD on Aug 27, 2009 10:33 AM EDT reply actions
I agree, it looks badass, but here's what's funny...
The fact that he has the visor provides more protection from injury, which would actually make him less badass. Show me a running back that wears the single bar kicker facemask, and there’s your badass.
Bye, Big Stew and JJ :(
Fines
I was just reading how you have to have a doctors note for a tinted visor on your face mask and if you don’t have a visor then the fines $10,000. CRAZY!
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
I kind of expect to him in a lot of Shotgun sets to give him a little more time. I don’t know why but I have this suspicion that Reid is doing a mind-job on both the league and Vick with this. I think he wants to show Vick that he has a long way to go but he also wants to show the league that Vick should scare the bejeezus out of them.
What I would like to see is maybe 1 or 2 posessions, maybe something like 7-10 plays. I figure only a couple of them will be designed (if rather bland) runs but the rest will be pass plays. I’d like to see Reid call for a couple of short, medium and long plays just to help Vick get his timing in a “real” game situation down.
by TransplantedFan on Aug 27, 2009 10:56 AM EDT reply actions
Just read this...
Mike Vick has more playoff wins than Carson Palmer, Tony Romo, and Drew Brees combined.
Hahaha, our Back-up has More Playoff wins than Tony Romo.
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by EagleGreeninMD on Aug 27, 2009 10:59 AM EDT reply actions
i expect
a heavy presence of trick plays and wild cat to lure in our future opponents coordinators in to thinking it will be a vital part of our offense this year
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by NorthPhillyKid on Aug 27, 2009 11:12 AM EDT reply actions
I expect Wildcat plays to work all season, regardless of if we show them or not. A passing Wildcat formation? With Vick, DMac, Westbrook, DJax and (hopefully) Maclin? Can you get more speed on one field?
by UnclaimedFright on Aug 27, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Andy Reid, evil genius
Part of me hopes Vick comes in midway through the second quarter, hands the ball off seven straight times and sits down for the rest of the night. When they ask Reid about it, all he says is, “Because fuck you. That’s why.”
by Tracer Bullet on Aug 27, 2009 11:15 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
(clapping)
Haha, very nicely done, although I’d have thrown in a “next question” after “that’s why.”
Bye, Big Stew and JJ :(
haha
just picturing that sparked a twinkle in my eye.
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
I expect Andy to have Vick to only play regular QB plays.
I expect Vick to:
get sacked a couple times by not making a quick decisions
miss a few easy passes
Overthrow DeSean deep, but we’ll all say wow about how strong his arm still is
I expect 1-2 improvised runs getting him 10+ yards that make us all get excited and forget the missed passes and sacks taken.
Yeah
I read that today, that he locked is dog in the car for 4 hours in the heat? that sounds like torture to me! Should be expecting him in a orange jumpsuit anytime soon?
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
a mystery
The whole Michael Vick thing remains a mystery to me, particularly from a big picture standpoint. At $2 million per year (or whatever it is for 2009-10), all of the above mentioned possible roles seem reasonable. At $5 million per year (or whatever it is for 2010-11), I’m not so sure.
Is the plan that this is a one-year arrangement (with Vick hoping to become a starter somewhere else in 2010-11); a one-year experiment (maybe we discover that a $5-million-per-year-ten-play-a-game role player can provide good value); an insurance policy (the 2009-10 team has a better chance of winning the SB with Michael Vick subbing for an injured McNabb than with Kevin Kolb); or a plan to replace McNabb (either in 2010-11 or in 2011-12)?
I’m not sure what to make of some of these possibilities (specifically the last two), and I guess it could be a combination of all of them or it could be that the signing was simply a roll of the dice (sign him up and then see what we can do with him, we’ve got two years to win it all and we’re not getting there with what we’ve been doing). Still, I thought we’d have a little bit more clarity by now (either from the team or, more likely, from media speculation).
Thoughts?
by dave in san mateo on Aug 27, 2009 11:41 AM EDT reply actions
Roll of the dice
I think Reid simply thought to roll the dice on this one. Although I’m sure he had ideas, but he had no idea how fit he was or how ready he was to step back on to the gridiron. He is gonna work with him, move him around a little bit and see what happens. If Vick benefits the team, then he’ll be here next year – especially if we don’t have a ring. He can only get better with a year under his belt. AND with the way we have injuries, its good t have a crediable backup QB. I am NOT a Kolb fan. Anytime he has been put in a game, its like the first throw he makes is an interception. I don’t want those chances and I don’t care if Reid has strong feelings for him… I’d rather just stick with AJ. At least we know what we are getting with him and average back up that can guarrantee wins but we know he’s got heart. (look at Pats game).
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
correction
….Can’t guarrantee wins
I realize i need to start proof reading these things.
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
I also want to see him line up in front of Rocca on a punt .
I guess it’d normally be a TE or FB there to block. Don’t necessarily want to see him receive a snap from that possession in tonight’s game but I want to see the effect of MV as a decoy.
by andyreidswaistline on Aug 27, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
true
give Kolb 2 games and see how well he does. If McNabb was injured and we didn’t have Vick, I wouldn’t want either one of them if I had a choice. I’m just not sold on Kolb yet. I guess I should give him a chance.
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
Does anyone else think
that having vick at QB and mcnabb at reciever/rb/te is a bad idea? i mean he’s not better than any of our other players in those positions and it leaves him open to get hurt. Anyone can cheap shot him at any time when he’s out there on the field. Plus it will take away from his energy level. Doesn’t make much sense to me, and though it would be fun to see, i wouldn’t want it to happen.
Eagles.
by #1EaglesFan on Aug 27, 2009 1:10 PM EDT reply actions
Falcons fan here
I love Ryan and our offense in general, but I have to admit, Vick is deadly. Kudos to you for giving him a shot. Defenses are terrified of him. A perfect secret weapon.
Use him on 3rd and 7 and let him drop back and run to the sideline. Corners and safeties drop in and he can bomb it as far as anyone in the game.
by nathan rothschild on Aug 27, 2009 1:29 PM EDT reply actions
I expect more of him in 3rd and short… and spelling McNabb when we have the lead and are trying to run out the clock more, but yeh if he still has his speed… we can expect some fun
it'll be interesting to see
I watched him play every week for pretty much 5 years. He is the most “fun” athlete to watch in pro sports. He’s basically Devon Hester with Jay Cutler’s arm. He was my favorite athlete outside Pedro Martinez.
by nathan rothschild on Aug 27, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I NEED TO WATCH GAME TONIGHT
does anyone have a link to watch game online they can email to me at chrisluke@itdsinc.net..i would greatly appreciate it.
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