NAACP plans "massive" rally to support Vick Thursday
by JasonB on Aug 26, 2009 1:48 PM EDT
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PrintWe all wondered whether there would be demonstrations outside of the Linc when Michael Vick made his Eagles debut tomorrow night... but I bet no one expected the demonstrations to be pro Vick.
The Philadelphia chapter of the NAACP, the Black Clergy of Philadelphia and other local civil rights groups are planning a massive demonstration to support Michael Vick at Lincoln Financial Field on Thursday, when Vick is expected to make his debut with the Eagles.
"We believe Michael Vick has served his time, paid his debt to society and deserves a second chance and the animal rights groups want to hold him hostage for the rest of his life," said J. Whyatt Mondesire, president of the Philadelphia chapter of the NAACP, said Wednesday. "We think that's patently unfair. It denies Michael Vick's basic civil rights, denies him his ability to make a living."
Ironically, local animal rights groups indicated that they had not made any plans to protest Vick. Could this news change that?
Either way, it should be an interesting night down in south Philadelphia. I can only hope all demonstrators, no matter what they're demonstrating for, remain civil and respectful to one another and the fans there to see the game.
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Vick does need support. I imagine it would be hard coming out of prison after spending 2 years there. You need to be mentally and physically in shape. I know for sure, im giving a 110% support to Vick. Im wearing his jersey tomorrow
eff you we winning anyway
He's a grown man
He doesn’t need anything.. I’m not a fan of protests/rallies, and I think the NAACP being there is a negative thing. Now it’s makes this whole situation what it never was — racial.
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
OMG
I hate the NAACP. I dont care if you call me a racist, but what does Vick being black have anything to do with all of this?
Next month I am going to start the NAAWP. That should be interesting….
"The preseason kills dogs"
you know what?
i’m sorry to say this because i agree it’s very sad…but it does have to do with him being black. if brett favre fought dogs, this thing would have gone down differently. it is what it is. my folks are from burma, i was born and raised in Texas. i’m not black or white, but my parents are recent immigrants. i think i have a good perspective on the whole “racial factor.”
sorry man
still not agreeing that race is a factor here. You gotta remember that this is the same mike vick that had the water bottle incident etc etc etc etc etc.
Racism in the United States in 2009 is only a crutch or an excuse in my book.
"The preseason kills dogs"
Well racism does still exist sadly, it’s just that some people have chosen to exploit it when it really isn’t an issue, thus watering down the cases of true and undeniable racism.
"THIS IS NOT COLLEGE NO MORE. THIS IS THE BIG MAN SPORT." ~Crazy Lady on BGN forums
by southjersey89 on Aug 26, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
that's fine
i don’t expect too many people to agree with me. BUT, the fact that this discussion always rears it’s ugly head goes to show that the issue does exsist and is real to a certain extent. agreed that michael vick is a dumbass and he did flip off fans and all that. STILL, like i pointed out, we as a whole in this society always find a way to talk about it. therefore……..
im only irritated because people insist on continuing to bring it up
i did not bring it up
"The preseason kills dogs"
I agree. Even before the dog-fighting Vick did a lot of things to indicate that he was a jackass.
by TransplantedFan on Aug 26, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Next month I am going to start the NAAWP. That should be interesting….
you had to make me look it up, It actually exists already.
Eagles fan since December 10, 1995
dont worry
im not serious, just tried to show how stupid you sounded.
Eagles fan since December 10, 1995
WITH YOU 100%
the one thing i was scared the most about when i heard the birds signed Vick was the racial thing . its already a circus with the mass media following and the team doesnt need anymore distractions. they need to be focused on playing football and not paying attention to all the hoopla.
by goldenbird09 on Aug 26, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Aint nuttin racial
They’re jus coming out to support him.
by birdsflyinhigh2590 on Aug 26, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I like how the NAACP is supporting Vick but two years ago or whatever it was, the President of the Philadelphia chapter took a big verbal dump on McNabb’s head. Where’s the love for a guy who is consistently a very good quarterback, stays out of trouble, and is a role model to the community?
by TransplantedFan on Aug 26, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I just think McNabb is serially underrated and has had a very bizarrely critisized career so I get annoyed at people and organizations who I think are being hypocritical.
McNabb has made racial comments before but they are mostly along the lines of the difficulties that black quarterbacks face. At the same time though, McNabb has tried to help out black quarterbacks who are entering the league or who are still in college and has reached out to some to offer advice.
The guy just doesn’t get the respect he deserves.
by TransplantedFan on Aug 26, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
It's all politics I guess
Jesse Jackson said he wanted to bite off Obama’s nuts cause he didn’t like how how he talked to blcak people lol… That is odd because McNabb has made racial comments too.
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
MY HONEST OPINION
The NAACP is the National Association for th Advancement of Colored People.
A black man now holds the most powerful office in the world. Job Done.
Disband. Now.
I hope Mike tears it up tomorrow…. Woo, I can’t wait!
Astra Inclinant, Non Necessitant
Well... he's a mulato
So I guess they half did it… and I hope Vick does well for our sake
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
Easy there Joe_D let’s keep the racial slurs out of it. You may perceive mulatto as a harmless word but not everyone does.
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
Go Vick!
It’s been a while since I last posted here, but since I work as a Civil Rights attorney, I feel compelled to say something about this.
For what it’s worth, I felt that Vick was a great candidate for jury nullification.(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jury_nullification)
If Peyton Manning can get away with killing deer for pleasure, Vick ought to be allowed the same blessing under the law to kill dogs for pleasure. Whether or not either activitiy is morally reprehensible or not is up to each of us to decide for ourselves.
But to the extent that both activities are treated differently (and because deer hunting is probably more popular with whites; and likewise dog-fighting to people of color) is a problem with the law itself. And to that end, I think Vick got the raw end of the deal from a society that is too often unfairly harsh to people of color.
Let’s hope all the side issues just go away when the regular season starts. Nothing would detract more from Vick’s comeback than any one group trying to make a big deal out of this one way or the other.
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!
"When Dawk hits you, you stay hit."
-Troy Vincent
by cybourgeoisie on Aug 26, 2009 3:08 PM EDT reply actions
However, deer hunting, especially in states like Pennsylvania is a legitimate practice considering that most predators of deer have been driven out, there’s little to nothing to control their population other than SUV’s.
Keep in mind, Vick wasn’t convicted for killing dogs. He was convicted for running an interstate gambling operation, which was illegal under federal law. Vick was never indicted under Virginia state animal cruelty charges.
I understand you’re an attorney but I find fault in your argument considering that deer hunting is a legitimate matter for public safety in Pennsylvania (I used to live out in Glenmoore, in West Chester county).
Oh, and someone pointed this out earlier, but Trent Cole is an avid hunter.
by TransplantedFan on Aug 26, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Good Point.
I stand corrected. He pled guilty to “Conspiracy to Travel in Interstate Commerce in Aid of Unlawful Activities and to Sponsor a Dog in an Animal Fighting Venture.”
But to the extent that deer hunting is legal and dog-fighting is not, that seems to me just an arbitrary distinction. I stand by that portion of my statement.
"When Dawk hits you, you stay hit."
-Troy Vincent
by cybourgeoisie on Aug 26, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
You're kidding...right?! from a rural PA girl
A civil rights attorney? – God help us.
I live right in the heart of rural PA where deer hunting abounds. I guarantee that no one tortures the deer before they shoot them and certainly no one makes them fight to the death. Dog fighting…..Deer hunting: ridiculous comparison, doesn’t even make sense. To say that dogfighting is illegal because it is popular with blacks and deerhunting is legal because it is popular with whites is one of the most ludicrious statements I have ever heard. LOKL!!!
Mr. Vick’s indifference to cruelty is a trait that does not go away easily or quickly, if ever. Considering the ongoing nature of his dogfighting activities, this character flaw is situated deeply in Mr. Vick’s psyche…..Cruelty to animals is often a prelude to crimes against humans and frequently, as has been well-documented, signifies a sociopathic personality.
fyi – police recently broke up a major dogfighting ring right here in rural PA. Everyone was WHITE. Vick’s deal was piece of cake compared to what these people got.
I guarantee that no one tortures the deer before they shoot them
Before they shoot them is probably true but as a hunter myself I promise there have been times I haven’t made a perfect shot and had to track a deer for hours and trust me that deer suffered. I wish every shot I had was perfect but unfortunately that isn’t always the case.
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
true.... but
I know this can happen, but i’m sure you don’t, with malicious intent, do this on purpose.
If Peyton Manning can get away with killing deer for pleasure, Vick ought to be allowed the same blessing under the law to kill dogs for pleasure.
Dude you are an idiot. I guess Vick fed his family with dogs?
But to the extent that both activities are treated differently (and because deer hunting is probably more popular with whites; and likewise dog-fighting to people of color)
Race has nothing to do with this. People have hunted deer (mostly for food) for centuries. People do not raise deer to kill each other while we put bets on them
I cant believe how stupid your post was
"The preseason kills dogs"
Stupid?
You think Peyton Manning needs to kill deer in order to eat them? The man makes $20 million a year.
And you thought I made a stupid comment?
Clearly, Peyton kills animals for pleasure.
"When Dawk hits you, you stay hit."
-Troy Vincent
by cybourgeoisie on Aug 26, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Correction
I meant to say “needs to kill deer in order to eat.”
We’re not talking about a 17th century Cherokee hunter here, after all.
"When Dawk hits you, you stay hit."
-Troy Vincent
by cybourgeoisie on Aug 26, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
But there is a lawful season for deer hunting
it is regulated. The two at this point are not comparable by law and you know that
"The preseason kills dogs"
True
Again, a good point. But if dog-fighting were legal (and of course, it isn’t so Vick did break the law), then the practice of dog-fighting could be regulated. The fact that it had to exist in the underground prevented that in the first place.
"When Dawk hits you, you stay hit."
-Troy Vincent
by cybourgeoisie on Aug 26, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
ok i can go with you there.
If dog fighting were regulated then you could compare them. I guess honestly my main issue is that you picked a whiteboy deer hunter rather than trent cole.
My whole thing with organizations like NAACP is that they CREATE racial issues where there really isn’t one.
"The preseason kills dogs"
I agree
Yeah, I didn’t mean to get argumentative there. The NAACP does create issues many out of thin air. So does PETA. And in fact, deer hunting in America draws its roots from Native American culture as much as it does to European culture.
The dispairity in the law was my main problem with the whole Vick thing, and it certainly does feel like a racial issue to me even if it isn’t. I guess I’m just sensitive to the condemnation that Vick got. Although, Vick most certainly knew he was doing something illegal and thus he’s not comparable to Manning who knew he wasn’t doing anything illegal by hunting deer.
"When Dawk hits you, you stay hit."
-Troy Vincent
by cybourgeoisie on Aug 26, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Dog-fighting (and animal fighting in general) is regulated. Its illegal.
by TransplantedFan on Aug 26, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Why?
Why is this even an argument at all? Dog fighting is illegal, he broke the law, end of story. There is no excuse that can be made for his actions. Only redemption.
Moving on…Hopefully he comes out to play tomorrow! Didn’t think I would be excited to see him play. I knew I would be supportive but excited? nah! But after some time I realize what a benefit he could provide to our team this year and maybe… just maybe get us that superbowl ring!
Now mind you, I have this argument with my friends all the time (being that I live in MD) but I say Superbowl ring and now championship because for some people that don’t know – we do have three championships before they were called Superbowls!
GO EAGLES!
in my honest opinion
this is gonna hurt vick rather than help him…the only thing he needs is support form the fans and less of the media coverage
by immynimmy on Aug 26, 2009 3:59 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
AMEN
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
I can’t wait to walk up to the Linc tomorrow and see the reactions of Eagles fans to this demonstration. I hope it stays civil, but either way it should be interesting. What would really make this whole thing ugly is if an animal rights group shows up to rival the NAACP demonstration. Apparently the Eagles met with about 20 organizations to talk down or defuse the whole situation, but there’s bound to be at least 1 rogue group that will show up anyway to steal the spotlight.
When it comes down to it though, I just want to see what Vick still has left on the field.
"THIS IS NOT COLLEGE NO MORE. THIS IS THE BIG MAN SPORT." ~Crazy Lady on BGN forums
Unbelievable!
Why isn’t the NAACP out there helping more deserving felons who can’t even find a minimum wage job?! Why are they doing all this for this man who is going to make millions….whoops, I think I just answered part of my own question. Other part being publicity. NAACP you lost my respect
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