Eagles lose 23-15 to Colts in preseason game two
For a while there, it actually looked as though the Phillies would outscore the Eagles tonight...
The Eagles first teams continued to struggle in preseason game #2 on the road against the Colts. The first team offenses' struggles started up front with the patchwork offensive line. Only one starter on the Eagles' O-line played tonight, which made it pretty difficult to evaluate the skill players. When the QB doesn't have time and the RB doesn't have holes, there's not much to see.
This certainly isn't an excuse, because the injuries to the offensive line are very real and if we're forced to enter the season with this group starting things won't be pretty. The lone bright spot on offense was a perfectly thrown 23 yard TD pass to Desean Jackson, who had burnt two Colts defenders.
The first team defense was arguably worse than the offense giving up 14 points in the first quarter. The low point was a 76 yard TD to Reggie Wayne where either Ellis Hobbs got massively burnt or the team just blew the coverage. Either way, it wasn't pretty. The defense was missing both Sheldon Brown and Trent Cole, but their absences don't excuse how flat the defense looked tonight.
The team did start to show some life in the 4th quarter under the leadership of Temple product Adam DiMichele. The game was well over, but DiMichele did lead them on a couple good drives including one that culminated in a 21 yard TD to rookie WR Brandon Gibson.
Some player highlights and low lights after the jump.
Although King Dunlap generally did hold his own for most of the game, he was absolutely embarrassed on a play in the red where Dwight Freeney put a wicked spin move on him and stripped McNabb of the football.
The Eagles averaged less than a yard and half per rush tonight. The offense line was held together with tape but still... a yard and a half?
Jason Babin made a name for himself. A good portion of the nearly 1,300 comments in the game threads were suggestions for Babin nicknames. My favorite was Philly's Babin-Back Ribs. Babin had a sack and forced fumble from Manning early in the game. He spent most of the night in the Indy backfield and certainly earned the start he was given tonight.
Jeremy Maclin struggled tonight. Not only did he have another fumble on a return(that's 2 in 2 games) but he never really looked in the flow of the offense. To be fair, no one did... but still. He finished the night with 4 catches.
Another rookie WR who also caught 4 passes did manage to impress tonight. Brandon Gibson averaged twice as many yards per catch as Maclin and caught himself a TD. BTW, did anyone else constantly find themselves confusing Maclin and Gibson? They look very similar on the field and their numbers (18 & 19) are hard to differentiate. I actually yelled out Maclin's name on Gibsons' TD catch.
Temple product Adam DiMichele did a nice job out there and got himself a TD pass in what is likely his final game with the Eagles and maybe his NFL career. It would nice to see him get a shot somewhere, because I don't think he looked totally out of place playing in an NFL game. He completed 14 of his 22 passes for 130 yards and a TD.
While we're on QBs, I have to give a wag of the finger to A.J. Feeley. How do you a throw a pass to a back in the middle of the field with 11 seconds left in the first half and no timeouts? That's just poor clock management/decision making on his part. That ball needs to go directly to the sidelines or get thrown away. The last thing you want to do with it is to throw it directly to the middle of the field. As a veteran, he should know better.
I would be remiss if I didn't mention Lorenzo Booker, who really struggled tonight. Again, I recognize how poor the offensive line was... but Booker had 8 yards on 7 carries. The next tackle he breaks will probably be his first... He just never seems to get that extra yard he needs. With Eldra Buckley showing some good things(although he did fumble tonight) Booker's roster spot is looking more and more unlikely.
Leonard Weaver left the game with what Andy Reid called a "sprained MCL." Reid said he should be ok.
Next up is the always important 3rd preseason game at home against the Jacksonville Jaguars. The starters will likely play into the second half and the game will feature the return of Mike Vick.
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My post game thoughts.....
Although I only watched the last 2 mins of the second, all the third quarter, and part of the fourth (don’t blame me, I had band :/). What I saw was a future starter in Baboon (my nickname for Babin), Maclin looking HORRIBLE especially when he yelled OH SHIT during the Kickoff which he fumbled, Feeley CONSISTENTLY looking for the dumpoffs every play (either that or the playcalling was too conservative), lastly Booker deserves to get cut after tonights ABYSMAL performance. One more thing, I did watch the Freeney sack/fumble. There should have been a back on Freeney the whole game. That’s how you stop a spin move.
On a positive not Jackson and Gibson seem to be something special and if you ask me, Gibson’s looking better than Maclin. I won’t grade them until I see Westbrook and Vick in action. You also forgot to mention about Brown’s dumb penalties and Myers looked decent.
by eaglemaniac814 on Aug 21, 2009 12:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Desean touchdown was longer than 23 yards wasn’t it?
by eaglesinmd on Aug 21, 2009 12:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ellis Hobbs is Reggie Wayne’s bitch….
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
by Imp on Aug 21, 2009 12:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we est. a few things tonight...
Ellis will be the kick and punt returner exclusively after his terrible defensive play, Jose deserves the nickel anyway.
Maclin will not make an impact immediately.
Brandon Gibson makes the team over Hank Baskett.
Booker G-O-N-E.
Brett Farve can make fun of himself, but looks extremely stiff while doing it.
Babin has made this team.
Desean is the truth.
Rob Meyers may make this team as the 3 TE.
by NJEagle on Aug 21, 2009 12:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Leonard Weaver...
the injury was called by Luxury, albeit jokingly i hope, and trying to not jinx anymore of our players.
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2009/8/20/996196/questions-to-ask-tonight-as-the#
Anyways about the game, Maclin has looked awful this preseason, and i guess thats expected when you come late to camp like he did. I also agree that it doesn’t seem like he’ll make any immediate impact in either the receiving or return game. From what i’ve seen, he’s just not sharp and i haven’t really seen that “lightning” speed at all yet. The fate of the season almost resides on the O-Line getting healthy. Hopefully that will fix itself in the next couple of weeks. I also thought A.J. Feeley looked pretty good (besides the dump off right before the half). I really don’t see a reason for the Eagles keeping him at all to take a roster spot though.
by BwH_ on Aug 21, 2009 12:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maclin had 2 good kick returns last week.
He did look terrible tonight though
by cliffer on Aug 21, 2009 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry guys
Guess I learned my lesson about jinxing players. Get well soon Weaver!
by Bob_Q on Aug 21, 2009 4:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
#@%!@
Sorry my ‘reverse bad mojo hex’ failed miserably.
Next time Jason decides to deify one of our players, I guess I’ll have to try a more powerful spell, like one of these.
Does anyone know if CVS sells Dragon Blood Powder?
by Luxury_Used_Vehicles_By_Braman on Aug 21, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is clear how much this team misses the leadership of Dawkins. Look at the penalties. Look at the almost hapless way the team (especially the D looked). And I am more worried about the defense than the offense. It has been a while since I’ve seen this many penalties. Three words: Lack of leadership.
I'm not ready to move on from #20.
by LeonSA on Aug 21, 2009 3:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You’re my boy Leon, but that had nothing to do with Dawkins.
Bye, Big Stew and JJ :(
by Bye, Dawk :( on Aug 21, 2009 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't think that
Dawkins makes a better defensive call on that Wayne TD? It looked like Hobbs dropped Wayne off but the safety (Demps?) was chasing a wide open TE down the middle of the field.
Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
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Homer: Woo-hoo!
by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 21, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think ellis hobbs sucks
even without that play, he missed three tackles, if you can call him that. he just runs at people and throws his shoulder at their knees and hopes they fall. He tried that shit on addai who bounced off it and got them a first on 3rd and 8 or something. at this point, i want the eagles to have their two fifth rounders back.
by eagleyosh on Aug 21, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea I was screaming “wrap him up” at the tv on a few of them… he really looked bad.
by Tron79 on Aug 21, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please…
Bye, Big Stew and JJ :(
by Bye, Dawk :( on Aug 21, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you forgot the ‘Child’ in front of that please.
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Aug 21, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
START SEAN JONES AND SHELDON BROWN ALREADY
Jones would have had either a PD or a Pick on that play instead of chasing down the TE. Jones is one of the best “centerfield” safety’s in the league.
by eaglemaniac814 on Aug 21, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brown was injured dude he is the starter relax.
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Aug 21, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I forgot
but still…START SEAN JONES!!!
by eaglemaniac814 on Aug 21, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mcnabb sack/fumble
I thought I saw on the replays that King Dunlap actually knocked the ball out of McNabb’s hands with his helmet. Re-watching now…
by afksports on Aug 21, 2009 7:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yea... but
Helmet or not, that fumble is on Dunlap… he opened the gate to let Freeney in… did he even touch Dwight, or was he in a complete trance due to that spin move.
I hope the real O-line gets together soon.
by Sparki on Aug 21, 2009 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In fairness
Up until that play, I thought he had a decent game though.
by Sparki on Aug 21, 2009 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the game thread...
I jokingly said something like “Dare I say… King… Dominant?”
And literally the next play was the Freeney sack.
Bye, Big Stew and JJ :(
by Bye, Dawk :( on Aug 21, 2009 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
king dunlap looked moronic at times
on that play specifically. Instead of blocking with his hands and using his massive size, he ducked his head and turned his shoulder at freeney like a five year old afraid to get hit. that play was pitiful.
by eagleyosh on Aug 21, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly...
as soon as he dropped his head freeney did his spin and was gone. With arms that are 13 feet long you have to extend them out, you can’t let the end get into your body like that when you’re that size. When that happens the end wins everytime!
by slandog on Aug 21, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But what we didn't do was...
put a back on freeney, that’s the only way you can stop a spin move.
by eaglemaniac814 on Aug 21, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
in his defense
Freeney has made a lot of tackles with a lot more experience than dunlap look stupid.
by Tron79 on Aug 21, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hobbs missed tackle...
Oddly enough, I don’t even care so much about the blown coverage by Hobbs (or Demps, or whoever was to blame). I mean, I do care, but that’s preseason stuff.
The real problem I had with Hobbs was the missed tackle on the 3rd and long play, where the Colts WR caught the pass short of the marker and was in absolutely no position to make a defender miss, and Hobbs basically bounced off him, allowing the receiver to run for the first down. You remember how good Sheldon Brown really is on plays like that.
Bye, Big Stew and JJ :(
by Bye, Dawk :( on Aug 21, 2009 8:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that’s got nothing to do with preseason, that’s just piss poor effort. He better be a dynamic goddamn KR/PR or he better start packing his bags.
by Tracer Bullet on Aug 21, 2009 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agree
I remember on play, sorry maybe it’s the one you’re talking about Dawk, but Wayne caught a short 4 yard pass spun around and was around Hobbs for the first down. Hobbs was in no position to make the tackle at all. He didn’t break down at all just ran and Wayne spun and was gone.
by slandog on Aug 21, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
PHIIIIILLLLLLLYYYYYYYY'S...
Babin back ribs… Philllllllyyyyy’s Babin back ribs…
Barbeque sauce!
(stolen from Whodie, I think)
Bye, Big Stew and JJ :(
by Bye, Dawk :( on Aug 21, 2009 8:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Adam DiMichele played great!!!
For a last minute roster addition, the guy played really good. Sure it was Indy’s second team defense, but it makes you realize how many guys on the outside looking in might do pretty well if givin the chance.
by Teamfastpitch on Aug 21, 2009 1:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WHAT I SAW
Im not a Ellis Hobbs fan i think he sucks. I remember watching the super bowl i mean he was sticking Burress on the goal line for the touchdown throw, its not that he got beat he got beat and was nowhere to be found. He looked slow and scared on that play. Not only cus of what i seen last night but throughout training camp he struggles with man to man. I played football in for PAL, HS, and college i do know when u play zone u have to cover the man in ur zone until someone else comes in ur zone and u switch alot of communication is important. On that play the the thing is he released reggie wayne but there was no running back tightend or receiver coming in his zone. If he would have looked inside and saw that while he was with wayne then he would have known that that there were 2 ppl on his side going vertical. Also the eagles eye the qb too too much idont know if their taught that but u got to find the man coming in ur zone 1st see what kind of route he’s doing then look at the qb(the giants are great at that they play the man to the qb) Also this is someting i never liked or understood about the eagles even when Johnson was there. If a corner especially but even a linebacker or safety shows blitz and the opposing qb reads it because they gave it away to early (the qb audibles to pass to where the blitz is coming) we still blitz and get torched. I can name countless times in the superbowl Brady killed us when we blitzed cause we gave it away (and last week), last yr in the nfc championship Kurt Warner threw whereever we blitzed from until the second have when we stopped blitzing so much, Peyton always does it to us. I know we have to sometimes cus(bunkley and patterson never never never get and inside push) but when the blitzer gives it away like joliseo hansen did last night the blitzer should have the freedom to back out of it. id rather they not show it sometimes at all especial if ur covering a slot receiver. remember when sheldon brown did taht to eli and the ball went in the air and trent cole caught it and ran for aTD that because sheldon never tipped Eli he was coming. This is what Jeremiah Trotter was talking about when he did he liked jim johnson’s scheme but sometimes he doesnt modify it and he never wanted to.
by mcnabb2010 on Aug 21, 2009 2:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Clock Management
An Eagles QB and poor clock management? Say it aint so! I was shocked when I saw that last night.
by hessshaun on Aug 21, 2009 2:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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