Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it

by captain nodar on Aug 20, 2009 8:51 AM EDT Comment 35 comments

Perhaps if George Santayana was part of the BYU curriculum, these things would not happen. However, be it return man, fullback, tight end, we always seem to be severely lacking in a particular position. It seems obvious to everyone but the front office that we should bring in a veteran, but they ignore it or try to convert a player to the lacking position (Parry and Klecko to FB, Lewis as a PR, Bright to TE, etc). For those of you who picked "TE" as the Eagles depth-lacking position du jour, give yourself a gold star.

With all due respect to the Eagles success in the last decade, I just do not understand why we let it get this bad. Granted, Celek and Schobel can return in a few weeks and all is well (sort of), but why have they not learned from past mistakes? The punt return situation of 2007 is still fresh in my mind, have they forgot how quickly things can get ugly if a particular position lacks the necessary depth?

With Schobel already sidelined, and Celek now hurt, we are a few weeks away from opening day and the only active TE's are a rookie defensive end and a 235lb undrafted rookie TE who missed his entire senior season. What if Brent's injury is a bit worse than expected, or he reaggravates it? I thought for certain that we would bring in a veteran, however I suppose it is not a proper Eagles season unless we are woefully lacking in some position.

Well, there's always next season to fix it :P

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Brent’s plating tonight in Indy….

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by EagleGreeninMD on Aug 20, 2009 8:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

//cobb'd

Playing

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by EagleGreeninMD on Aug 20, 2009 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ABSOLUTELY

this could turn out to be very BAD, if celeks injury is worse then we know, which i dont beleive it is, and he reeally gets hurt 2nite then we are up a creek my friends. i dont kno why the FO waits for things to happen before they do something. we need another te anyway so why not just give up the 3d rounder for BEN WATSON now, instead of waiting for celek to get seriously hurt and then the pats are gonna hold us hostage and ask for to much.
As for owen daniels , oi would love to get him over ben watson but i dont see that happening. this is the first i have heard of this. why would they even be willing to deal him???? this is a rumor i dont beleive for a second, espn is full of shit and as for salspalantonio……well hes just a fool with a microphone.

by goldenbird09 on Aug 20, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Heard that

by macjack09 on Aug 20, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

There are heavy rumors they are pursuing a TE...

On Mikey Miss yesterday, Sal Pal classified them as “not rumors,” but rather that the Eagles are having legitimate talks with other NFL teams strongly pursuing a “starting caliber” TE. He mentioned Tony Scheffler and Owen Daniels as possible targets, although I don’t see why the Texans would be interested in trading Daniels).

Take some of Sal Pal’s opinions for what they’re worth (often garbage), but he does have nose for this kind of thing.

Bye, Big Stew and JJ :(

by Bye, Dawk :( on Aug 20, 2009 9:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

ESPN experts

I download the “best of mike and mike” podcasts and listen to them the next day while I’m running. Yesterday I listened to John Clayton telling me favre may come back, but nothing is going to happen for a long time in that department, at least a couple of weeks. He said that tuesday morning, and was wrong by tuesday at noon, haha.

by eagleyosh on Aug 20, 2009 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bye, Dawk

If you thought we had a small chance of getting Ben Watson….then I’ll let you know. We have NO CHANCE in getting Owen Daniels. Daniels is coming off a pro bowl year and one of the top rated tight ends in the league. Scheff was a possibility months ago. He’s had a chance to impress the Denver coaches and McDaniels is trying everything he can to keep everyone on the team. Sal Pal is a joke.

by macjack09 on Aug 20, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I did say...

“I don’t see why the Texans would be interested in trading Daniels”

Bye, Big Stew and JJ :(

by Bye, Dawk :( on Aug 20, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

My Bad

I just saw that….

by macjack09 on Aug 20, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

give me Ben Watson

or give me death

by birds'n'raiders on Aug 20, 2009 10:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

you know what’s going to happen… someone will cut a reliable #2 te on the first round of roster cuts and we will pick that guy right up.

by the way, when are the first roster cuts? anyone know?

by awd777 on Aug 20, 2009 10:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

after the 3rd preseason game

and the second is after the last preseason game

by birds'n'raiders on Aug 20, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yup, Sept 1st down to 75 and 5th down to 53

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by EagleGreeninMD on Aug 20, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

65 or 75?

by awd777 on Aug 20, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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by EagleGreeninMD on Aug 20, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’d much rather trade the likes of someone that may not make our team (hint: #86), for a guy they may eventually get cut (Watson) or a guy that has fallen out of favor (Tony S) NOW, so they they have more time to get acclimated to the system.

Bye, Big Stew and JJ :(

by Bye, Dawk :( on Aug 20, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Pats...

What is N.E. our garbage heap for WR’s we don’t need?….they already have G.Lew.

"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."

by greenbean#twoOH on Aug 20, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Haha, yup. Watch G Lew go to the Pro Bowl now.

Bye, Big Stew and JJ :(

by Bye, Dawk :( on Aug 20, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If Tom Brady made Reche Caldwell look decent for a season, then GLew is gonna look like an absolute star.

About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.

by IronHank on Aug 20, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You mean Jabar Gaffney?

Bye, Big Stew and JJ :(

by Bye, Dawk :( on Aug 20, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Reche got cut from the Pats and then failed to get a spot on the 07 Chiefs roster. He was also cut from the ’08 Rams roster before the season started.

And yes, Brady made Gaffney look alright, too.

I’d argue that Lewis was more talented than both of them, and he is going to have a career year this year.

About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.

by IronHank on Aug 20, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Scratch the Chiefs, I don’t know who I was thinking about. Reche was on the 07 Skins, but they let him go.

About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.

by IronHank on Aug 20, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

What is with us taking the Pats players

Asante, Hobbs, Klecko, Eckel. Now you want Watson? Wow

Eagles fan since December 10, 1995

by Eagles675 on Aug 20, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

in reality...

they are only looking for a “starting caliber TE” because they did so much 2 TE set install that they need an Ingram clone to operate the offense as they did in training camp. And the most likely person, to me, who would be ok with being the No. 2 TE in this offense, who also happens to be ultra athletic and an underrated blocker…is Ben Watson
Boo-YA!

by birds'n'raiders on Aug 20, 2009 10:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

and at this point

Watson looks like he is getting cut

Hell, he didn’t even play against us last week, and he wasn’t injured.
Chris Baker and Alex Smith took the first and second team reps for the Pats

by birds'n'raiders on Aug 20, 2009 10:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Methinks they might hang on to him until the birds fix their TE situation. Why let us get him for free when theres a strong trade possibility.

by Bo Jangles on Aug 20, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

exactly, their not gonna let him go when they kno they can get a draft pick from us

by goldenbird09 on Aug 20, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Two Words

CHAD LEWIS

….no but in all seriousness, i want tony scheffler

by immynimmy on Aug 20, 2009 11:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i would love scheff over watson but its not gonna happen, denvers gonna keep him. maybe if we pushed the envelope 3 weeks ago he could hav been had but that ship has sailed my friend unfortunately for us.im very scared about wat were gonna do wen and if celek goes down. and beleive me he will go down, murphys law.

by goldenbird09 on Aug 20, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I mean this with all my love.
Shut Up.
Murphy’s Law?! Jesus you Santaria Hexing Machine, quit it!

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by EagleGreeninMD on Aug 20, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Chances are....

We aint getting Scheff and we definitely aint getting Owen Daniels. Owen is a pro bowl tight end on the up-rise and the #6 rated tight end in the NFL. Unless we give up some major stuff (which I dont see us doing) we aint gonna get him. Josh Mcfailure has already said he’s not giving up Scheff unless for a first rounder. Reason—he needs to cover himself. He lost Cutler, he’s losing Marshall, and he’s nearly lost the locker room. He needs all he can get and Royal and Scheff are his QB’s top 2 targets now (at least unless Marshall comes back). So those are way out of the way now. Watson is our best chance. He may not be the best tight end but he is definitely gives us a reason to exhale. He’s athletic and that seems to be the thing now with the eagles pass catchers now.

by macjack09 on Aug 20, 2009 1:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Dunlap to TE

Get it done. You all seem to want a blocking TE. Who better than a left tackle?
(No, I’m not kidding about that)

That, or we can sign Shaq. C’mon, 7’2 325? Tell me you wouldn’t love that size in the redzone.

About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.

by IronHank on Aug 20, 2009 1:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

nah...

shaq will want too much money. what’s dikembe mutumbo up to?

by awd777 on Aug 20, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Or we could sign Manute Bol to block FG's...

Bye, Big Stew and JJ :(

by Bye, Dawk :( on Aug 20, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I met Manute Bol when I was 8 and he played for the Sixers. My dad is 6’5’ and Manute Bol was the first person I’d ever seen make my dad look small, I was shocked.

Jim Johnson 1941-2009

"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009

by Whodie126 on Aug 20, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs