Does Giants' GM Jerry Reese know what "condone" means?
by JasonB on Jul 9, 2009 9:46 AM EDT
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This week Giants' LB Michael Boley was suspended for allegedly beating his wife. Here's a little reminder of what the 6-3 223lb LB did to his wife.
According to reports of that incident, Boley allegedly pushed her against a wall, threw her over a couch, and shoved her into a kitchen cabinet door, leaving bruises on her upper back.
Back in March, Giants' GM Jerry Reese(who knew of the incident) had this to say.
"It's really unfortunate that when you're in pro sports everything gets overexaggerated a little bit," Reese said. "We don't condone any kind of domestic violence of any kind in any way, so don't get me wrong on that. But Michael Boley does all kinds of community service and people never talk about that. It's really kind of a shame that people don't say, 'Wow, this guy's a really good guy. He does all this kind of community service.' But the negative things seem to always come up.
"It's just unfortunate, but when you're in a high-profile position I guess this is what happens."
What part of this is NOT condoning what he did? You handed the guy a $25 million contract, said things were "overexaggerated," called him a "really good guy," and blamed everything on the fact the he's famous.
He's not a "really good guy." That's a fact. Neither is Brett Myers in case anyone thinks I'm just hating on the guy for being a Giant.
More after the jump.
As long as there are people like Jerry Reese to make excuses for guys like Michael Boley, those guys will continue to act the way they do.
I'm not going to kill the Giants for signing the guy. Someone was going to. I'm glad it wasn't the Eagles because I don't like rooting for guys like this... but I don't think he should be banned for life or anything like that. Sign him if you like... but save us this "he's a really good guy" crap. The reason he got in trouble isn't because he's "in a high profile position" which is the excuse Jerry Reese uses, it's because he took his wife and "pushed her against a wall, threw her over a couch, and shoved her into a kitchen cabinet door leaving bruises on her upper back."
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Also, “overexaggerated” is not a word. Looks like Reese could use a dictionary.
Seriously though, there’s no excuse for what Boley did. That one-game suspension is a mere slap on the wrist. The NFL really needs to get its priorities straight.
Fly, Eagles, Fly...
by Bob_Q on Jul 9, 2009 10:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“overexaggerated” would have to mean that something is blown completely out of proportion.
“overexaggerated a little bit” would have to mean that something is kinda maybe blown completely out of proportion… but not that much.
this guy is a dummy. some people will give reid a hard time for not answering questions or rag on charlie manuel for stuttering, but this guy comes off as insensitive and stupid. i don’t care if you spend 1000 hours of undocumented community service… there’s no way you can defend the character of a man who hits women. i understand standing behind your player, but his quote almost makes things worse.
by awd777 on Jul 9, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, they don't "condone" bad behavior, Rather the Giants "encourage" it!!
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
by yophillybro on Jul 9, 2009 10:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Reese is right. What about all those times Michael Boley didn’t punch his wife in the face? Nobody ever mentions that. It’s always, “Michael Boley is some kind of creep because he sometimes bounces his wife of the walls” or “Michael Boley likes hitting women so he must be a criminal.” Maybe his wife deserved a smack in the chops. Maybe he wanted to bash her upside the head with a toaster and instead knocked her over a couch. Maybe we should be applauding his restraint and maturity. Did anyone ever consider that? You people make me sick.
by Tracer Bullet on Jul 9, 2009 10:23 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
You guys are seriously blowing this out of proportion. Domestic disputes happen ALL THE FUCKING TIME. Many of them are much worse than this. Most of them aren’t reported to police. I’m not saying it’s OK to do what he did but to use it to define him and act like that’s the only aspect to him as a person is absolutely retarded.
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by yomjoseki on Jul 9, 2009 10:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Character starts at home.
And this guy doesn’t have it. It does happen a lot. That’s no reason to ignore it though. He is less of a man for treating his wife like that, same as any “man” who beats his wife.
by NOLACuse on Jul 9, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I agree with you that one negative incident does not a man make. But as Jason pointed out, what’s worse, taking an over the counter supplement that was banned (4 game suspension) or beating your wife (1 game suspension)? Which do you think is being “blown out of proportion”?
by ajay on Jul 9, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you serious?
i think you just pulled a “jibta” by saying that. any coward who beats his wife absolutely deserves to be defined as a “wife beater,” whether he did it once or a thousand times. a person who killed once is still a murderer. a person who sexually assulted someone once is still a sex offender. boley is a wife beater… pure and simple… and he deserves all this negative publicity.
by awd777 on Jul 9, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bs
boley is a great LB…. good athlete….all about winning games….i want him on the eagles…gocong sucks…needs to go back to de….this all bs….it’s all because the media loves women to much….
by FredEx on Jul 9, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
:-D
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by EagleGreeninMD on Jul 10, 2009 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha
that was the best impression ever…. you forgot to add “… boley is a stud….”
Eagles.
by #1EaglesFan on Jul 12, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
These things happening “all the fucking time” doesnt make this act any nobler… with being a public figure comes more responsibility…. and thats what he has to pay for…
Phinally!!!
by bdawk20 on Jul 9, 2009 11:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
As some have mentioned, he didn’t do anything absolutely over the top terrible. People make mistakes and this doesn’t/shouldn’t define Boley as a person. However you can’t be that nice of a guy if you go around beating your wife.
However, Reese really dropped the ball here. He didn’t own up to Boley making a mistake. He flaunted about Boley’s community service, and blaming this on the fact he’s famous.
Speaking of community service, if I’m not mistaken aren’t NFL players required to do a certain amount of community service? If so, Is this why every player isn’t getting slurped up for being a really nice guy?
by FredEx on Jul 9, 2009 5:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He doesn’t go around beating his wife. It’s not like it’s plugged into his Blackberry “Tuesday @ 8, beat wife”. What he did is not OK but to drag it out like this is retarded.
You all act like none of you have ever lost your cool and did something you regret.
I am the people's troll :3™
by yomjoseki on Jul 9, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure everyone losses their cool. Nobody said they didn’t, but there is a limit to what is acceptable to do when you’ve lost your cool. You don’t get a free pass when you’ve lost you cool. I know whoever just shook their baby to death, killed a man, or beat his wife but relax that person just lost their cool, it happens to all of us.
Obviously everyone is going to draw that line at a different spot, but it seems most people think beating your wife is over the line. Also, depending where you draw the line doing a bad act probably makes you not a good person.
And as for this being blown out of proportion by us, is it really? He did something unacceptable so people think less of him. I don’t see it being taken any further than that. If people are making larger claims than that, perhaps, but I haven’t really witnessed it. Is someone saying he’s a bad guy that ridiculous of a statement?
by FredEx on Jul 9, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m just saying everyone has done stuff they wouldn’t want the world to know about, but he got caught and he’s in the public eye, so he’s a horrible person?
The problem is that everyone wants to put their own two cents in and judge him when it involves precisely none of us. It’s between him, his ex, and the courts. Now it’s been settled, but the NFL feels the need to punish him, fine. They’re an organization and being a member is a privilege, not a right, and it can be taken at any time. I’m just saying I got better things to do than condemn someone for something that’s already been settled when it’s got nothing to do with me, especially when there’s thousands of other people out there doing the same kind of crap or worse.
I am the people's troll :3™
by yomjoseki on Jul 10, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and I’m not going to be bitch and moan about stuff I don’t intend on doing anything about, either. If you’re doing something for domestic abuse victims, great! But I bet no one here has and they’re just bitching just to bitch.
I am the people's troll :3™
by yomjoseki on Jul 10, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you going to rid the world of opinionated bloggers who may make a judgment call based on inconclusive facts or a single fact? Because if people have been bitching about Boley, you are surely bitching about them.
The fact people do worse things doesn’t make his actions OK. Is a he a horrible a person? Who knows, although I surely wouldn’t classify him as a good one after what he did.
Also, you are allowed to care/bitch about things even if you don’t help prevention of said things or aid the victims. Well at least I think you can. Was no one allowed to complain about Vick’s actions if they don’t help a shelter or animals in some capacity? A lot of people think 9/11 was pretty shitty, but you didn’t go down to help out, I guess you have no right to voice an opinion about it.
by FredEx on Jul 10, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You guys wouldn’t give two shits about him if he wasn’t a Giant, and that’s what makes everyone here an asshole.
I am the people's troll :3™
by yomjoseki on Jul 10, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wrong
Anyone who reads this site regularly knows we’ve called out a lot of players who’ve done wrong. Most recently Donte Stallworth. I’ve said many times how I think Leonard Little being allowed to play in the NFL is a travesty. We’ve discussed guys getting caught using PEds… It’s not a Giants thing.
by JasonB on Jul 11, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Leonard Little and Donte Stallworth each killed a man through their reckless actions. You want a pat on the back for calling them out?
I never saw a front page post about any of the three assault charges brought upon Larry Johnson.
Nor did I see anything about James Harrison when he was arrested for allegedly assaulting his girlfriend. A quick search yields no results for either.
So, if someone kills somebody, we’re up in arms! If someone gets in a fight with their girlfriend, let’s give them hell! (as long as their in our division)
Look, I respect your writing most of the time but this is off-season homer boredom at its worst.
I am the people's troll :3™
by yomjoseki on Jul 11, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oops, “they’re” not “their”
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by yomjoseki on Jul 11, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and you forgot one very important word in your reasoning for disliking him, and that is “allegedly”. A person in your position cannot omit words like that.
I am the people's troll :3™
by yomjoseki on Jul 11, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really, really wish he didn't do this
it makes it much easier to root for a team when you think all the guys are good character guys. Just like it’s easier to work with people in your company when you know they aren’t assholes. But the fact remains, I’m guessing the vast majority of people here are Phillies fans. And I’m guessing the vast majority of you didn’t turn your TV off every time Brett Myers came to the mound, even though he DRAGGED HIS TINY WIFE BY THE HAIR DOWN A PUBLIC STREET AND PUNCHED HER IN THE FACE. You don’t like it, you don’t “condone” it, but you still cheered every strikeout. Boley didn’t stab someone in the neck with scissors (Irvin), kill a mother while driving drunk (Little), and I will cheer for him when he blows past fat Peters and sacks McNabb. But it would be easier if he hadn’t touched his wife.
Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!
by bigbluethruandthru on Jul 10, 2009 9:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Like I said, I feel and reacted the same way to Myers as I did Boley. I agree with you there.
And no, I don’t think he’s as bad Leonard Little or even Donte Stallworth who we also discussed here.
by JasonB on Jul 11, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you a Phillies fan?
did you feel their championship was somehow lessened because they still kept a guy you would not want to associate with in your personal life, and he helped contribute in some way to their title? All I’m saying is that we root for the laundry, if the the guy is likable then it makes it easier, when he’s not you can’t stop rooting for your team. You may as well give up on sports all-together, because you’ll never get a team of choirboys. Be honest though, this guy brought a little more venom because he’s a Giant. I felt much more strongly about Pacman and Tank Johnson on the Cowboys then I would have if they were on like the Jaguars.
Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!
by bigbluethruandthru on Jul 11, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As far as I’ve witnessed (which it’s possibly I missed something) nobody is trying to imply that people should stop rooting for the Giants, or that any win they get is tarnished because Boley is the roster.
I’m glad it wasn’t the Eagles because I don’t like rooting for guys like this… but I don’t think he should be banned for life or anything like that. Sign him if you like… but save us this “he’s a really good guy”
JasonB is glad he’s not an Eagles, He doesn’t like the fact this happened, and doesn’t buy Reese’s “really good guy” sentiment he was trying to throw out there. That’s all that happened in my opinion. I don’t get this whole did you run from TV and feel ashamed of your Brett Myers aided title thing. I haven’t seen anyone implying this should or will garnish that kind of reaction from Giants fans. Most people’s gut reaction was Boley isn’t a good dude. Has it gone much, if any, further than that?
by FredEx on Jul 11, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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