09' Opening Game vs Panthers
The 09' regular season opens up against the Carolina Panthers, a team with the 3rd best record in the NFL in 08'. The Panthers have done very little in the off season, other than drafting speedy pass-rusher Everette Brown and bringing on Colts defensive coordinator Ron Meeks. The Eagles on the other hand have made enough off season moves for many analyst to pick them as an early Superbowl favorite. Here are few challenges the Eagles will have to deal with to win game one.
1. Maybe the best running attack in the NFL. At least that is what some analysts are predicting. In 08' Deangelo Williams had over 1500 yards, 5.5 avg, led the league with 20 TDs, and most importantly had 0 fumbles. All this while splitting carries with rookie stud Jonathan Stewart.
2. Steve Smith. What was up with those rumors last year that the Panthers might trade Steve Smith to the Eagles? The Panthers would never trade potentially the best player in their short existence. He is usually the best athlete on the field, and can take over a game any given week. His constant Houdini acts create wins out of games the Panthers have no business winning. His threat is rivaled only by guys like your very own Brian Westbrook... when healthy.
3. Potentially a much improved pass rush. Led by Julius Peppers and his 08' 14.5 sacks. Julius is not always the most motivated player, but when he is focused he is arguably the best defensive players in the league. In addition the Panthers drafted Everette Brown, possibly the best pass rusher in the draft. And they brought in Ron Meeks whose specialty is in making a huge impact with small, fast, Panther-like defenders. Add in Jon Beason, whom many call the best LB in the NFL, and this defense could be handful.
What are the biggest challenges the Panthers will have to overcome against a new, young Eagles team?
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a little early for this dont ya think?
8 games in 8-0 we goin.
by 700 Level on Jun 30, 2009 9:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What else is an NFL fan to do in late June???
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
by southtunnel on Jun 30, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
valid point
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
If Football Had A Church , Brian Dawkins Would Be My Preacher. -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Jul 1, 2009 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm interested in how Matt Ryan develops, but right now
passing – Saints (my vote)
rushing – Panthers
defense – Giants
by sports00fan00 on Jun 30, 2009 9:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rushing game is legit, and Beason is legit. Smith gets it done.
Peppers might be more of a problem than he is a pass rushing threat this season.
As for Brown, I never liked the guy. I don’t trust ends from FSU, nor do I trust ends that are a full half an inch under 6’2. Brown, as you probably know, is both.
The defensive wasn’t that big of a handful last season, and with a potentially disgruntled Peppers, I don’t foresee them getting a whole better.
What are the biggest challenges the Panthers will have to overcome against a new, young Eagles team?
First off, the secondary. Eagles have arguably the best corner tandem in the league. Jake Delhomme needs to make sure he throws it to the guys with the right color uniforms on. This problem can be compounded by the pass rush. Your line needs to give him to time to be able to make better decisions.
And to counter act your rushing attack, last season the Eagles did allow the 4th fewest rushing yards per game last season. Smith is going to have to be a factor to take attention and defenders away from stopping the run.
Then your D has to contain the air attack of the Eagles. With McNabb spreading the ball around to Jackson, Curtis, and the other WRs, dumping the ball off to Westbrook, and hitting a TE in Celek, who showed enough late down the stretch for fans to be excited about.
by FredEx on Jun 30, 2009 9:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What about Dwight Freeney?
He’s barely 6’1, and has flourished under Meeks’ system.
You hit the nail on the head about Jake, Panther fans very worried about that. However the Panther’s running game seems to take it up a notch against strong run defenses. They put up over 150 years on the Giants, and over 300 on the Bucs… who at the time were being touted as tops in the league.
Your air attack for me is the question mark. The hype seems to be all on paper at this point. But if it is as you say, then you are going to be tough to beat! Because you got all the other pieces, and Westbrook won’t have had time to get injured yet.
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
by southtunnel on Jun 30, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
*yards not years
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by southtunnel on Jun 30, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cobbd
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
If Football Had A Church , Brian Dawkins Would Be My Preacher. -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Jul 1, 2009 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh yea your not an eagles fan lol
http://gcobb.com/ for reference is a former eagles player now turned analyst and everyone absolutely despises is opinion and position on every issue he takes when the situation arises with our Eagles … he also has been a grammatical and spelling bee champion his entire life … sarcasm … sometimes your eyes will bleed with the errors he writes so all in all .. just busting your nuts we always say cobbd when we or others misspell things :)
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
If Football Had A Church , Brian Dawkins Would Be My Preacher. -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Jul 1, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
his *
cobbd
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
If Football Had A Church , Brian Dawkins Would Be My Preacher. -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Jul 1, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you did that on purpose right … for an example … way to go NPK :)
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Jul 1, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
would you believe me if i say no ?
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
If Football Had A Church , Brian Dawkins Would Be My Preacher. -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Jul 1, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cobbd
Yes*
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
If Football Had A Church , Brian Dawkins Would Be My Preacher. -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Jul 1, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Remis on Jul 1, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cobbd
i would believe you*
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by Remis on Jul 1, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WTF MAN LOL
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
If Football Had A Church , Brian Dawkins Would Be My Preacher. -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Jul 3, 2009 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
If Football Had A Church , Brian Dawkins Would Be My Preacher. -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Jul 3, 2009 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Freeney is the maybe the lone exception to the height thing. Freeney has freakish explosion and straight line speed, better in both areas than Brown. Its also a tough sell to say Meeks made Freeney thrive. When you have a top tier prospect, drafted at 11, his talent and skill has a lot to do with it, although it is possible Meeks was a big factor. Who knows what one would have done without the other.
As for the passing game, we were toward the top last season (6th most yards per game). Now we get a fully healthy Curtis and Reggie Brown back. We have promising potential threats in Maclin and Ingram, but even without them, we already have the pieces in place to be one of the better passing teams.
by FredEx on Jun 30, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meeks made the entire defense better
Everyone criticized the Colts for being too undersized. But once Meeks got them flying around the field and swarming to the ball, he was praised for finding a way to overcome their size.
Freeney would have been good regardless… But he excelled, as did the rest of the D, in Meeks’ system.
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
by southtunnel on Jul 6, 2009 7:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t want to discredit Meeks, I just don’t like the Freeney example as grounds to support Brown.
Brown is one of those guys I just don’t like/trust as a prospect, and will not give any credit until he deserves it. And as for your defense as whole, if they don’t have a motivated Peppers I expect them be worse this year.
by FredEx on Jul 6, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have read on a couple different places that the Eagles should be worrying about the Panthers but I am not maybe because the season is still far away but as long as we stop the run I don’t see Delhomme beating us through the air.
As far as the toughest team we will face that is a tough one I will go with the Giants although without Plaxico I feel we are a bad matchup for them.
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by The Legend on Jun 30, 2009 10:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
if we stop the run
im pretty sure the best backfield in the league will take care of jake the snake
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
If Football Had A Church , Brian Dawkins Would Be My Preacher. -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Jul 1, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
secondary *
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
If Football Had A Church , Brian Dawkins Would Be My Preacher. -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Jul 1, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
face
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
If Football Had A Church , Brian Dawkins Would Be My Preacher. -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Jul 3, 2009 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You'll have to stop the best RB tandem in the league
Or at least that is what FoxSports is saying…
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9746990/Positional-Power-Rankings:-RB-packages
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
by southtunnel on Jul 1, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the run
4th in the League last year against the run. It’s not gonna be that easy. You’re not gonna be running too much when you’re down by a lot to our offense.
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Jul 1, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Running chews up the clock
You’re offense won’t be on the field.
But if you do get a lead, Fox will stop running. And to be honest… if the Panthers are down by only one score late in the game, odds are that Jake will pull out a win. But if the Panthers are down a couple scores, Fox will put the ball in Jake’s hands… but Jake will start throwing interceptions. He is a genius with late game comebacks, but terrible when down early or by a lot.
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
by southtunnel on Jul 5, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats what i said
You’re running can win you the game, but we were 4th in the league last year against the run. So the passing game isn’t gonna win you anything. Your strength is when the ball isn’t put in Jakes hands. So with our offense, the run game is gonna be nullified.
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Jul 6, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re offense won’t be on the field.
Even if you have multiple 90 yard rushing based drives, you are going to have to get at least a few stops. Not saying our offense can’t be contained, but your rushing game (which at least in part is nullified by our strong rushing D) doesn’t mean our offense is automatic non factor.
by FredEx on Jul 6, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You seem to be a Panther fan...
Question for you… 5 years, $42.5 mil for Jake Delhomme. a 34-year-old, mediocre QB?
Not trying to be a jerk – This is legitimate question… What the hell are they thinking?
by Bye, Dawk :( on Jul 1, 2009 8:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i dont think the panthers really feel that QB is such an important position
so they locked up the guy that already knows the system for all brett-favreitude
remember, delhomme replaced good ’ol rodney peete
but in all serious honesty, i would like to know too
"You always hear about ballplayers buying numbers from other players for five figures. When this .300 lifetime hitter was in Philly, he traded his number to Mitch Williams for two cases of beer." - Stuff Magazine on John Kruk
by BadCo'09 on Jul 1, 2009 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
where the f have u been
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
If Football Had A Church , Brian Dawkins Would Be My Preacher. -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Jul 1, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sry buddy
health problems, plus a lot of shit going on but all that is over now and im back
is JIBTA still around, i havent read through all the posts yet but i havent noticed his name haha
"You always hear about ballplayers buying numbers from other players for five figures. When this .300 lifetime hitter was in Philly, he traded his number to Mitch Williams for two cases of beer." - Stuff Magazine on John Kruk
by BadCo'09 on Jul 1, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven’t seen JIBTA in a week or 2. Don’t worry, he’ll be back.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Jul 1, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh i aint worried lol
"You always hear about ballplayers buying numbers from other players for five figures. When this .300 lifetime hitter was in Philly, he traded his number to Mitch Williams for two cases of beer." - Stuff Magazine on John Kruk
by BadCo'09 on Jul 1, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hope you get better , happy 4th
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
If Football Had A Church , Brian Dawkins Would Be My Preacher. -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Jul 3, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fox is a players coach
He loves to reward and stick by his veterans. The mind set seems to be that Jake has done it before, he knows the system, and has control and the respect of the team. So Fox would rather stick with his guy right now, then have to rebuild around a rookie or free agent QB. For him it’s loyalty and patience. We just don’t understand why such a high price tag?
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
by southtunnel on Jul 1, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only thing that honestly worries me about this game is that the Eagles start the season slow and they need to be prepared the Panthers are a good team.
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Jul 1, 2009 8:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
im calling it now
eagles fake the kickoff with an onside kick lol… we did that against dallas a few years back right ?
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
If Football Had A Church , Brian Dawkins Would Be My Preacher. -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Jul 1, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah I remember that play. Brilliant move caught everyone off guard.
Fly, Eagles, Fly...
by Bob_Q on Jul 1, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Pickle Juice Game! … Started the game with an onside kick and went on to win 41-14 … the start of the Reid/McNabb movement. That was a fun game.
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Jul 1, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I think Duce went for about 200 in that one.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Jul 1, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you are correct sir
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Jul 1, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ya know, that could be the game to point to as the turning point when the Eagles went from shitty team to annual contender.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Jul 1, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mos def.
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Jul 1, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
im good at bringing up happy thoughts
heres some more

"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
If Football Had A Church , Brian Dawkins Would Be My Preacher. -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Jul 3, 2009 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats my dad by the way
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
If Football Had A Church , Brian Dawkins Would Be My Preacher. -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Jul 3, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yah too bad the Vet attacked him and ended his season.
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Jul 1, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
damn right
not only that, but the pickle-juice game marked the day i started going in the luxury boothes…boy, what a life changing game
by birds'n'raiders on Jul 1, 2009 11:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We shouldn't over look the Panthers
Few times last we overlooked team that were beatable but lost to (Bears, Redskins x2, Bengals…).
The Panthers’ offense can be very scary. DeAngelo Williams lead the NFL last season in rushing touchdowns (18). He also had a 5.5 yard per carry. By comparison, Adrian Peterson had a ypc of 4.8. Steve Smith is bloody insane. He played in only 14 games but manage to get 14,21 yards (3rd in the league).
Jake Delhomme, on his good days, can be very good for the Panthers. He posted a yard per attempt of 8.0-8.9 in four games, 9.0-9.9 ypa two games, and 10.0+ ypa four games. Ten games of 8.0+ By comparison, Drew Brees post only a 8.0 ypa game 3 times, Peyton Manning post a 8.0+ ypa in six games, and McNabb had four games of 8.0+ ypa. Jake can also be clutch when needed – Week 1 of last seasons, two seconds left against the Chargers, down 19-24; Jake threw a pass that we between two defender and hit his tight end for a 14 yard game winning touchdown pass. In short, dude can screw you over if you overlook him.
The Panthers’ offense can be completely terrifying. Their defense…not so much.
The Panthers’ D ranked 18th in total defense (two spots above the lousy Packers’ defense), 16th in pass defense (dead middle for average), and 20th in rushing defense (one spot above Bengals’ rushing D). Julius Peppers, possible their best player on defense, doesn’t want to be there in Carolina. Last year, he posted 14.5 sacks; year before that, 2.5 sacks. As Eagles fan, we know an unhappy defensive player can suck badly (see Lito Sheppard). If Peppers goes all 2007 season on Panthers again, that defense will not be good at all.
If prepared properly, our offense should run over the Panthers’ defense without too much of a problem. The main focus of the game is going to be our defense against the Panthers’ offense. And remember, last season we got ran over by couple of rushing teams (first Redskins and Giants games come to mind).
I say if Panthers score 21 or less points we win. They score 31 or more points, we lose. Anywhere between is equal chance for either team.
Moo.
by Imp on Jul 2, 2009 3:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i say your a jerk
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
If Football Had A Church , Brian Dawkins Would Be My Preacher. -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Jul 3, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
jk i just wanted to start controversy
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
If Football Had A Church , Brian Dawkins Would Be My Preacher. -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Jul 3, 2009 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I say you're a Cowboys lover
There’s your controversy. =P
Moo.
by Imp on Jul 3, 2009 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Finally a good analysis
Also, Eagle fans expect their offense to be better… Panther fans expect their defense to be better. If either of these don’t happen, that team is screwed. And expectations are often letdowns.
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
by southtunnel on Jul 6, 2009 7:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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