It's all Maclin, all the time
by JasonB on May 8, 2009 8:28 AM EDT
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The onslaught of Jeremy Maclin news continues...
St Louis Today had 8 writers debate the subject of who will have a better NFL career, Jeremy Maclin or Michael Crabtree? You may be surprised how split the decision is, however it is Missouri based site... Here's a little sample from either side.
BERNIE MIKLASZ
Maclin. I think he’s faster and more explosive. He’s got the ability to change a game with his big-play potential as a return man. He’s dangerous after he makes the catch. And Maclin is a relentless worker who constantly strives for improvement. Crabtree has formidable talent, but he is also a diva, and is probably going to give a coaching staff headaches with his ego eruptions. Maclin isn’t that kind of kid. His personality is a plus.
VAHE GREGORIAN
Maclin is more versatile and slightly faster, but Crabtree is a notch taller (6-3 to 6-1), catches the ball better in traffic and appears stronger and more durable. I don’t think Maclin could have made the play Crabtree made to beat Texas, though I don’t think Crabtree can separate from crowds like Maclin can. Each should be a really good pro, but gut feeling is Crabtree will be more decorated by the end of his career.
Clark Judge of CBS sports seems excited about Maclin as says the Eagles now hav all the ammunition they need to win the Superbowl.
Get used to it, Philadelphia. The ammunition that McNabb said he needed to reach another Super Bowl he now has, with Maclin a grenade waiting to be pulled. There was no way the University of Missouri playmaker should have slipped out of the top 10 in last weekend's draft, but, thanks to the Oakland Raiders' reach for Darrius Heyward-Bey, he did -- lasting until the 19th pick, when the Eagles wisely traded up to get him.
"Mark my words," said an NFC general manager who asked not to be quoted, "Jeremy Maclin will have the greatest impact of all the receivers taken in the draft. The Eagles got themselves a star."
He calls Maclin, "Desean Jackson with size."
You don't have to convince me. I can't imagine you have to convince McNabb, either. In Maclin he has DeSean Jackson with size. Maclin is taller. He is heavier. He is more physical. Plus, he has soft hands. Like Jackson, he can fly, and, like Jackson, he returns kicks.
Finally, there was a series of videos done about Maclin's friends, family, teammates, and his preparation for the 2009 NFL draft call "The Maclin Project." Some very interesting stuff there.
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Jason, stop teasing us with all this Maclin talk.
I am sooooooo excited about this team. I think the offense will fly.
The more I look back at the draft, I think the Eagles were prepared to draft Percy Havrin @ 21, and caught wind that NY was gonna work a deal out for Maclin. So Andy trades virtually nothing to get a better WR and in essense take away a playmaker from NY. That just makes Maclin that much sweeter for us.
I really can’t waite till camp, I am soo going to a few days. I will keep my eyes on Maclin, from what I read, I think he will start by game 6 or so. I think Mac and Jack will be a force to e rekoned with. With Curtis in the slot (for a year at least), and Avant and either Basket or Gibson. You gotta love our WR now, can you name me a better WR corps?
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by yophillybro on May 8, 2009 8:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I almost would give my whole summer away....
So the season would start right now!
I think Avant breaks out as the slot guy full time this year.
I hope he does at least.
Special Teams is going to rock with Jackson, Hobbs, Maclin and MACHO.
4 extremely talented KO/Punt returners.
Save some of D-Jax’s enery for the snaps.
ooooohhh I GeTtING PUmPED UP!
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by EagleGreeninMD on May 8, 2009 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
our special teams really is special, you forgot Demps, he's a beast too.
I think even if Avant isn’t full time slot, he and curtis can split from time to time. It will be situational.
Both should do well.
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by yophillybro on May 8, 2009 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, how could I forget Demps!!!
However, I believe with his roll on D looking closer to Starter he might not see the KR any more, though man everytime I saw him back there I got ready for someting special. He was always like 1 guy away from 6.
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by EagleGreeninMD on May 8, 2009 9:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Whichever will be better,
there is a very good chance that Maclin will have a pro-bowl level career. Check out this article: http://www.advancednflstats.com/2008/04/drafting-wide-receivers.html
bottom line: if you can get one of the first 4 WRs in a draft, you have even money you’ve got a future pro-bowler. Considering that Maclin was generally considered the #2 WR in the draft, there’s a good chance he’ll develop into an ace.
I know this is an old praise by now, but I’d have to call the Maclin pick the steal of the draft at #19. I saw him go as high as #7 in some mocks, and only chance and happenstance caused him to drop to where the Eagles can grab him. Getting a top 10 for #19 money was not a stroke of genius, but a no-brainer stroke of luck. Lucky that Al Davis is officially insaine. Lucky that no other team needed a WR in the teens of the draft. Lucky that no other team was able to put together a trade to move ahead of the birds to grab him themselves. Lucky, or maybe smart, that the Eagles had a good enough team that they didn’t have some other pressing need to fill, allowing them to choose a top talent instead of filling a need.
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." - Bear Bryant
by NJBammer on May 8, 2009 9:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WORD
I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID. WHAT WE WILL NEVER KNOW IS IF BY CHANCE CRABTREE AND MACLIN FELL TO 19 WHEN THE EAGLES MOVED UP, WOULD ANDY REID STILL PICK MACLIN OVER CRABTREE? I THINK THE ANSWER WOULD BE YES. THIS GUY HAS A 1ST CLASS ATTITUDE AND WILL WORK HARD ALL YEAR TO MAKE THIS TEAM BETTER.
CAN YOU IMAGINE IF JAX CAN IMPROVE ON HIS ROOKIE SEASON AND MACLIN COMES IN AND LIGHTS IT UP? I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THESE TWO GUYS GOING TO THE PRO-BOWL IN THE SAME YEAR.
by STRAIGHTOYOURFACE on May 8, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmmm....
I’m not sure the Birds were ever interested in Harvin. No question about his talent, but his character was a turnoff for many teams. I think the Eagles learned their lessons with Owens and FredEx. And I absolutely agree taking Maclin was as you put it, a no brainer stroke of luck. Like I’ve always said, when a gift falls in your lap, you open your arms and accept it.
by captainmike011 on May 8, 2009 10:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
sorry fellas
sorry coaches, I’m still not sold on hype. Fact remains that this offense is built around timing – when was the last time you saw a bubble screen (that worked) or a slow crossing route through the middle of the field turn into a big game for the birds when it wasn’t TO catching it.
But I do like things about him – coachable, great attitude, humble, confident, and consistently produced in all phases of the game in college. We’ll see…
by yondaddy on May 8, 2009 10:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
when was the last time you saw a bubble screen (that worked)
I seem to remember a guy named Westbrook making a living out of catching the bubble screen while split wide. Let me see… Westbrook split wide right, Maclin in the slot, D-Jack left, and “Dream” Weaver as a block/safety valve. Our TE chips the DE before occupying the SAM LB and our HUGE line gives D-Mac 5 glorious seconds of pocket. Just not fair!
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by oldasquick on May 8, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
crabtree's height
he might be listed as 6’3", but he showed up to the draft measuring 6’1". that’s maclin size, or “average” as claimed.
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by psudrozz on May 8, 2009 10:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good catch...
here’s the proof: http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/michael-crabtree?id=71269
According to one of the commentors, Crabtree is the next Michael Irvin, a “Bull runner” who can overpower defenders. He’s 6’1", 215lb, while Maclin is 6’1" 198lb. http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/jeremy-maclin?id=80429
Maclin ran a 4.48 40, and of course Crabtree didn’t run that at the combine, so we don’t know how to compare that.
By the way, Harvin was listed at the combine at 5’11" 192lb, FWIW
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." - Bear Bryant
by NJBammer on May 8, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Harvin = Bust
undersized burner with an attitude. I don’t see him being a ‘DeSean Jackson’ Type
Asante is better then Jack... You can call me AIBTJ
by anuj on May 8, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Harvin can be effective if he’s used correctly, but I don’t think that use is worth a first round pick… I mean you probably only want the guy touching the ball 5 or 6 times a game.
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
by foos05 on May 12, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I read some really bad things about Crabtree. I read several places that teams passed on him because he acted like a “diva” when visiting them, brought a posse and was rude to staff members. Having a screw inserted into your foot is no small matter when running and cutting is your job either.
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by Whodie126 on May 8, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Get Excited but be Realistic
Look the Eagles draft has the potential to the best offensive draft under Reid. We have been lucky to have D Jax fall to us last year and now Maclin, Shady and Ingram. As an Eagle fan though, any production we get out of rookies is a bonus. Seriously, outside of D Mac and D Jax, what offensive rookies made a significant impact their rookie year? And remember McNabb and Jackson played under similar pro systems in college so their transition was easier to the NFL.
Maclin, McCoy and Ingram’s success all depend on how fast they pick up the playbook, learn to block, and prove they can take an NFL hit. Also, we have to see how their knees respond to the rigors of the NFL.
This draft is undoutbedly one of the best drafts in terms of potential. And I won’t set myself up expectation wise during their rookie years.
by Kwasi23 on May 8, 2009 11:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
True
im only expecting about 450 yarda and 1-3 tds from Maclin to be honest…We STILL have Curtis and Jackson on the team… It’s going to be real hard for Maclin to oust either one of them.
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by Joe_D on May 8, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good points, but...
McNabb is getting old, Westbrook is getting old, and FB and the FO need to win the SB or start putting together their resumes. The fact that D-Jack got so much face time last year shows a shift in thinking. I see the “triplets” especially Maclin and Shady, getting their fair share of reps IF they “show up” in camp.
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by oldasquick on May 8, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure he'll get his chances
but what we saw last year was an exception not a rule. It takes time to learn the p osistion at the NFL level.
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by Joe_D on May 8, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If there's one thing I'm excited about it's his attitude
It’s so refreshing to not have a ghetto/diva WR.
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by Joe_D on May 8, 2009 11:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow
Maclin was living the life at his surrogate family’s home!
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by Route36 on May 8, 2009 12:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maclin and other WR character
Yeah I think aside from the talent stuff it is most impressive about what Maclin’s character seems to be like — I also think, that as far as I know the other WR recievers have good characters too, all the way to Baskett and Brown. I think that they are a bunch of guys who just go out and work and no drama and all, which is awesome and I think it will really help both DeSean Jackson and Maclin to be together with Curtis. Hopefully, it will also help out Brown and Avant, as they should get a lot lot less attention then they normally would from defenses.
I think that Greg Lewis even did well in 04, when TO was around because he could run and catch, just not if someone was going to hit him ;) Maybe with Jackson, Maclin and Curtis on the field, Avant and Brown can get a little more space to do stuff and have good years as well.
by Whack8888 on May 8, 2009 2:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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