NFC East Rivals' WR Corps - Complete Garbage?
by JimmyK on May 31, 2009 12:52 PM EDT
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PrintDo the Giants, Redskins and Cowboys have the worst receivers going into a season that we've ever faced? I have to say... I think the answer is yes. Let's start with the Dallas Cowboys, and one of my favorite targets, Roy Williams...
Roy Williams - 2008 - 36 catches, 430 yards, 2 TD.
Yeah, yeah... I know the laundry list of excuses people make for good ol' Roy... He joined the team midseason and didn't know the offense, Brad Johnson was the QB for 3 weeks, TO demanded the ball and Romo didn't look at Williams, Jason Garrett was a bad playcaller, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. The simple fact remains that if you're a legitimate player, you make it impossible to be ignored. In 10 games with the Cowboys last year - 19 catches, 198 yards, 1 TD. Awful. On a per game basis, that's 1.9 catches, 19.8 yards, and 0.1 TD's per game. Again... Awful. There's also the misconception that Roy Williams was some kind of star receiver with Detroit, which really isn't true. In Detroit, Williams had ONE good season. One. He had 1,300+ yards in 2006 (and I'll concede that's a huge year), but in his 4 other NFL seasons, he has never had more than 838 yards. So that's 4 bad/mediocre years, one good one. And yeah, I know... The Lions are a terrible team and Roy Williams was a victim of a bad situation. Or was he? In Mike Martz's pass-happy offense, the Lions ranked 9th in passing offense in 2008 and 7th in 2007. Obviously he was a major talent at the University of Texas, but are we really sure Roy Williams was EVER that good in the NFL?
Patrick Crayton - 2008 - 39 catches, 550 yards, 4 TD's
5 seasons in the NFL, and his best year was 2007, when he had 50 catches, 697 yards, 7 TD. He'll compete with Miles Austin for the starting job. Chris Berman's nickname for Crayton on NFL Primetime should be "Meh."
Miles Austin - 2008 - 13 catches, 278 yards, 3 TD
In fairness, there's actually a lot to like about Miles Austin. He only had 13 catches last year in 12 games, but had 21.4 yards per catch. He's a really nice deep threat and would be a great role player... But a guy going into his 4th year with 354 career receiving yards competing for a starting job is not ideal - And that's an understatement.
Sam Hurd - No stats accumulated in 2008, had 19 catches for 314 yards, and 1 TD in 2007
Is it fair to just completely write him off solely because his name rhymes with "turd?" I think it is. Let's just move on.
Domenik Hixon - 2008 - 43 catches, 596 yards, 2 TD
Are there any Giants fans reading this? I need your help - Is Domenik Hixon your #1 receiver? I'm not asking to be a jerk... I legitimately really don't know. Is it Hixon? Is it Steve Smith? Is it a rookie (Nicks)? Anyway, Hixon is entering his 4th season - He didn't play in 2006, was released by the Broncos in 2007 and picked up by the Giants and was basically a kick returner, grabbing 1 catch for 5 yards. Last year, he put up decent (but very unspectacular) numbers despite only starting 7 games. I was on Big Blue View a little while back, and they were trying to make the case for Hixon over DeSean Jackson, which was replete with ridiculousless. Is ridiculousness a word? Well, it is now. Now, I'm not trying to say Hixon doesn't have a lot of talent, but I view him as a guy that's very much like Miles Austin... A nice role player that is going to see way too much playing time in 2009. Disclaimer - I'm contractually obligated to include this link when talking about Domenik Hixon... Linky. Our boy Hixon has his infamous drop at the :52 mark.
Side note on our regular season win vs the GEEEEE MENNNNNNNN... I completely forgot about the timeout Andy Reid called before the end of the 1st quarter so that Akers could kick a 51-yard FG with the wind at his back. What a great in-game management call by Reid there! Very un-Andy-like.
Steve Smith - 2008 - 57 catches, 574 yards, 1 TD
I like Steve Smith a lot. He's 24, is a nice possession receiver, moves the chains, and made a bunch of plays during the Giants' Super Bowl run. He reminds me a lot of Jason Avant, but younger and better. Buuuut, I keep coming back to the same theme... Is he an NFL starter?
Hakeem Nicks - Rookie
I live in Giants territory, and all I hear is how much the coaching staff seems to like this guy. We'll see soon enough. He's expected to be starting by the end of the season... and he better if they want to give Mr. Aw Shucks some legitimate threats.
Mario Manningham - 2008 - 4 catches, 26 yards, 0 TD
Manningham did nothing his rookie year. He'll likely take on a larger role this year. Did the Giants reveal what they think of Manningham when they drafted Nicks?
Sinorice Moss - 2008 - 12 catches, 153 yards, 2 TD
Disappointment so far? For me, no. For Giants fans, yup.
Amani Toomer - 48 catches, 580 yards, 4 TD
Right now, Amani Toomer is in a "Jon Runyan situation." He's an old free agent, and there aren't a bunch of teams jumping at the chance to sign him. He's likely not to be a Giant this year. Good riddance.
Santana Moss - 79 catches, 1,044 yards, 6 TD
Finally!!! (Champagne corks popping) We have an NFL quality starting WR! Granted, he's an inconsistant NFL quality starting WR that seems to always be battling through nagging injuries, but still...
Antwaan Randle El - 2008 - 53 catches, 593, 4 TD
You start all 16 games and you average 37 yards per game... Unacceptable. I'm not analyzing him any further.
Devin Thomas - 15 catches, 120 yards, 0 TD
I remember last year leading up to the draft, a lot of people had the Eagles possibly drafting Devin Thomas in the 1st, and if not, drafting Malcolm Kelly in the 2nd. Too bad we had to settle for DeSean Jackson. Oh wait, did that work out?
Malcolm Kelly - 2008 - 3 catches, 18 yards, 0 TD
Last year, the Skins had 3 2nd round picks and took 3 skill position players... Devin Thomas, Malcolm Kelly, and Fred Davis. They combined for 21 catches, 165 yards, and no touchdowns. OUCH! Dear God, please don't let us experience anything NEAR that with Jeremy Maclin, Lesean McCoy, and Cornelius Ingram.
JAMES THRASH!!! - 9 catches, 81 yards, 1 TD
Wait, James Thrash is still in the league?!?!?!? Awesome. Good for you, James.
If I got to cover that garbage 6 games per year, I'd be happy too...
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Dont think the Giants WR's are that terrible, the others I totally agree with you.
Nixon did a good job for the first year, not as good as D Jackson, but pretty good for a rookie. If H Nicks shows up like Nixon did last year, and they have Steve Smith, they will be manageable, but they are not as pass happy of a team as we are. The Eagles need to have the best receivers in the division because no one throws as much as we do.
First of all...
Its Hixon not Nixon. Second, its his 4th year and not a rookie.
Taking Route 36 will bring you to Touchdown,PHI
Hakeem NICKS and Domenik HIXON..two different people
Nicks is a rookie from UNC, Hixon is in his fourth year out of Akron
wrong
the Giants have been experimenting with cloning and have combined their DNA’s to create a super-receiver. Unfortunately, the secret got out and the Cardinals are hard at work creating Fitzoldin.
you should post this as a fanshot on the other NFC east team’s blogs…that would really get the comment section rolling
Redskins
i definitely think its the redskins. Aside from Santana Moss i dont really see anyone that would make a team nervous. After Moss you can add the yards of the 3 receivers after him and still be over 250 yards shy of Moss’ season total. I also feel like moss is starting to come down from the elite receivers category. his first year with the skins was by far his best season hauling in 84 passes for over 1400 yards and 9 TD’s and after that season he had two seasons in a row with under 1000 yards and barely had more than 1000 yards this season. Im not saying that he is a bad receiver cuz we all know that he can go for a TD anytime in a game its just that i dont see him or the Skins receiving corps as that much of a threat.
Aside from Santana Moss i dont really see anyone that would make a team nervous.
Aside from Santana Moss, I don’t really see anyone that would make a team at all
About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.
Cowboys
Hands down. T.O. was a huge distraction, but he also bailed Romo out in a lot of games and finished the season with over 1000 yds. and 10+ TDs. Roy Williams won’t put up that kind of production. Jason Witten will be there biggest receiving threat.
"The character of a person is in direct proportion to his commitment to excellence." -Vince Lombardi.
i said giants after i saw how bad they were when plax left
but i also factored in Cowbitches have Witten so i think that makes em better than the Giants
To me the Eagles are like that girlfriend that pisses u off, then u hate her, but the next morning you wake up and remember that thing u love so much about her
by XxBleedGreen5xX on Jun 2, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
QB
This may also be a reflection of the QB throwing to him, I think that Brunell was a better QB than Campbell is. Also in the great years he has had Portis wasn’t contributing. I think in a balanced offense with a good QB (that Campbell may still become) Moss is still an elite WR.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
LOL
Is it fair to just completely write him off solely because his name rhymes with “turd?” I think it is. Let’s just move on.
Great read!
Question:
Do you homers not realize that the Redskins are the only team in the Beast who actually have a legitimate #1 WR?
Who is the Eagles’ #1? Jackson? Curtis? Baskett? Avant? Maclin?…..
Ya BOY, D. Jackson (62 rec., 912 yds., 2 TDs), did NOT have a better year than Moss (79 rec., 1044 yds., 7 TDs) as a WR. Hell, even ARE had nearly 600 rec. yds., 254 PR yds., & 4TDs. Compare that with the numbers that these WRs put up:
K. Curtis – 390 yds., 2 TDs
R. Brown – 252 yds., 1TD
H. Baskett – 440 yds., 3 TDs
J. Avant – 377 yds., 2 TDs
On the other hand, Jackson did have an incredible season last year, especially for a rookie. There’s no denying that. But like I told another Eagles’ fan recently:
… let’s see how he does going into this season with a target on his back before anointing him to anything other than a 1-year wonder.
Regarding the rooks, you said:
Last year, the Skins had 3 2nd round picks and took 3 skill position players… Devin Thomas, Malcolm Kelly, and Fred Davis. They combined for 21 catches, 165 yards, and no touchdowns.
You did miss Thomas’ 1 TD on an end-around (LOL). But I won’t lie, those numbers are pathetic. And right now Vinny Cerrato looks like ‘jack-ass of the year’. However, anyone who knows football should be aware of the fact that, generally, there is a 1-3 year learning curve for QBs and WRs transitioning to the NFL. DeSean Jackson and Eddie Royal were the exception to that rule, but 8-9 times out of 10, WRs take a little time to get acclimated.
All that being said, I fully expect the Redskins to be in contention with the Eagles and Giants for the division title. I shouldn’t have to remind you that, after all, we did sweep you last year… :-P
"The character of a person is in direct proportion to his commitment to excellence." -Vince Lombardi.
Do you homers not realize that the Redskins are the only team in the Beast who actually have a legitimate #1 WR?
I hate the term #1 WR, because it’s an unnecessarily invented term, but Santana Moss is far from that invented distinction. If you notice, I do like him as a player (when healthy), and I gave him some credit in this post. That said, tell me you wouldn’t trade Moss from Jackson in a heartbeat.
You did miss Thomas’ 1 TD on an end-around (LOL).
In fairness, DeSean Jackson had 4 TD’s, not 2 (one on a run from the wildcat and a punt return against your Skins).
However, anyone who knows football should be aware of the fact that, generally, there is a 1-3 year learning curve for QBs and WRs transitioning to the NFL. DeSean Jackson and Eddie Royal were the exception to that rule, but 8-9 times out of 10, WRs take a little time to get acclimated.
True. Very true. But rookie WR’s that eventually blossom into great players will typically at least show flashes of greatness as rookies. I saw absolutely nothing from those 3 guys.
Hell, even ARE had nearly 600 rec. yds., 254 PR yds., & 4TDs. Compare that with the numbers that these WRs put up:
K. Curtis – 390 yds., 2 TDs
R. Brown – 252 yds., 1TD
H. Baskett – 440 yds., 3 TDs
J. Avant – 377 yds., 2 TDs
Not one of those guys started 10 games. Randle El started 16 games. He’s garbage.
By the way...
In the Devin Thomas picture, who’s the guy in the background? He looks like some sort of ghost just waiting to steal someone’s soul.
a skins fan?
i’m so used to cowgirls fans on here. even the occasional giants fan. but this is surreal. yes, you swept us. maybe albert haynesworth will play both sides of the ball and beat out jason campbell as starting QB.
For his $
he should be playing on both sides.
"The character of a person is in direct proportion to his commitment to excellence." -Vince Lombardi.
wow i actually agree w/ u
To me the Eagles are like that girlfriend that pisses u off, then u hate her, but the next morning you wake up and remember that thing u love so much about her
by XxBleedGreen5xX on Jun 3, 2009 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah we don't
so who r u gonna cover cause all these guys r #2-3 quality WR’s. And McNabb now has all day
Our Secondary
has Rogers, Hall, Smoot, Landry, Horton and Barnes. I think we can handle it. And I wouldn’t count on McNabb having “all day” with Haynesworth and Orakpo collapsing the line. :-)
"The character of a person is in direct proportion to his commitment to excellence." -Vince Lombardi.
If I was ranking
which Im not, Id say the WR corp would go Skins #1, Eagles #2, Giants #3, and Cowgirls a distant 4.
Skins are #1 simply cuz of Santana Moss. Desean Jackson may end up being as good, but we’ll see this season.
Do the Giants 3 rooks have a 1st season like the Skins rooks did? Who knows. Does Maclin and Jackson form a dynamic tandem? I hope not, but who knows?
I personally think that if the Giants decide to do a bit more of what the Eagles do in the passing game, i.e. spreading the ball around, then the whole core will be one of the deepest in the league.
Should be a real interesting season, but as any fan of teh NFC East should know, the WR in the division really don’t mean a damn thing.
Its all about the running game and defense. The Giants and eagles are still 2 of the best in the league at that.
What people forget about Burress is that he was not only tall, he had blazing speed, great hands, incredible body control and he could physically dominate a defender. Neither Hicks not Barden is a burner and while they’re both big, especially Barden, it remains to be seen whether either can consistently come down with Eli’s airballs. In any event, neither is going to outrun defenders like Burress.
Burress did not have blazing speed
far from it. He wasn’t slow, but the reason he was a deep threat was b/c of his size and ability to outmaneuver smaller DB’s, not b/c he was burning past them
Agreed here also
Burress just had insane bod control. Guys would be right on him but he easily out jumped them for the ball. Very glad to see him out of the NFC E
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
yea
I’m gonna miss him on Sundays, but I won’t miss the Monday-Saturday drama. I’m sure you guys can sympathize, what with the TO fiasco.
Definatley
The media has turned sports into a big soap opera. They take the smallest stories and turn them into much bigger than they should be. Back before the internet, you wouldn’t know what happened at a training camp or in a locker room unless the daily newspaper decided to print it. Too much of a circus right these days…
"If they end up 2-14 and both of those wins came against Dallas, that's a pretty good year."
nice
how much did Burress save Eli’s ass on bad passes over his time in NY???
To me the Eagles are like that girlfriend that pisses u off, then u hate her, but the next morning you wake up and remember that thing u love so much about her
by XxBleedGreen5xX on Jun 3, 2009 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions
not as many as ESPN would like you to believe
he dropped plenty in his day.
Plax ws the man, but that he was the linchpin to the GIants offense couldn’t be farther from the truth. Offensive coordinator’s gameplan was horrible when he cheddarbobbed himself
Plax def. wasnt the linchpin to your offense, the giants are a run first team. But you’ve got to admit how many times Eli threw off his back foot, just tossing it up and Plax brought it down cus he’s 6’5’. Eagles/Giants a couple years ago w/ the td pass to Plax in OT is a perfect example.
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Jun 3, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I have to agree with the Skins fans
Santana moss has been putting up good #s and really has never had a great QB. He put up awesome stats with old ass Mark Brunell. He’s by far the most accomplished WR in the Beast.
What the Eagles have is the best depth. Not only that we have great young talent that appears to keep getting better as well.
The Cowboys actually have an OK WR corp. Miles Austin is pretty good. Roy Williams has destroyed us before as a Lion (both times he played us actually). Crayton isn’t great but hes not a bum either.
The Giants have the least impressive corps, but I don’t doubt they’ll be a very good team this year anyway.
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
Vehemently disagree
Moss and Jackson are close (I’ll give the edge to Moss because he’s more tried and true), but the different between Curtis/Avant/Maclin/Brown/Baskett and Randle El/Thomas/Thrash/Kelly is enormous.
completely agree
with my man Joe D
Let's get it.
by homestar2281 on Jun 1, 2009 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Just want to point out
that going into last season, most people probably would have said the Eagles had by far the worst WR corps in the NFC East, and yet they ended up being pretty good. Preseason stuff like this is pretty meaningless in the long run. If Hakeem Nicks has a DeSean Jackson like breakout season and/or Hixon continues to improve, the Giants WR corps could be great. If not, it could be pretty bad. None of us know what will happen.
ok, you have listed alot of excuses fro Roy Williams struggling last year,
but you forgot to mention that he was hurt the entire time Romo was at the helm. In hindsight, he probably shouldnt have even been on the field.
Also, while I know they are not part of the WR corps, looking at our passing game you have to factor in tightends. Of which we have possibly the best two recieving tightend tandems in the league. Witten is the best TE in the league and Bennett proved he was quality last season. We might not have the best WRs in the league, but our passing game shouldnt struggle that much.
this
is not untrue, much as I hate to admit it. An argument could easily be made that the Eagles have the worst TE’s in the division, probably depending on who turns out to be better between Ingram and Beckum. But certainly the Cowboys and Redskins are better at TE than either the Giants or Eagles, right now.
id love to see a divisional tight end comparison
although I think the Eagles might have to take the third or even fourth behind Witten and Cooley, although Ingram could be an amazing TE/miss-match.
Dallas would clearly be #1 there. Witten should unanimously be considered one of the 2 best TE’s in the NFL (I’d give Gonzo a slight edge), and Bennett looks like a nice player (his YouTube taped recordings aside).
Washington would be 2. Cooley’s a great TE.
I’d put Philly at 3 with a very minor edge over the Giants (which isn’t to say their TE’s aren’t good… It’s just a deep position in this division.
Divisional TE's
youse guys are forgetting about Cornelius “Beast” Ingram. I’m thinking Ingram starts for the Birds by week 8, barring injury to Celek. This has nothing to do with Celek not being good, because as anyone who watched the playoffs knows, he brings a lot to the table, a Chad Lewis of sorts. But Ingram is an athletic monster, whose blocking (as a friend of mine Chris McPherson of PE.com says) is pretty darn good, but was never utilized in the spread at Florida. With that in mind, I present the re-ranked TE’s of the NFC East…
1. Dallas: Jason Witten, Martellius Bennett
2. Washington: Chris Cooley, Jason Davis
3. Philadelphia: Brent Celek, Cornelius Ingram
4. New York: Kevin Boss, Travis Beckum
And in 3 years, Ingram will be in a Pro Bowl.
wait wait..
Are you kidding me? First Ingram has to prove that he can be healthy and prove he can play in an NFL offense.. he’s coming off Major ACL surgery and played in a gadget offense in college with tons of weapons. I’ll agree that Dallas has the best tight ends in the division and probably the NFL because Witten is just straight G and aside from his annoying and numerous twitter updates, Marty B looks like he’ll be really solid. Kevin Boss may be the most underutilized player in the NFL.. The guy had six touchdowns last year, and he’s still developing as a blocker and as a receiver. Not to mention that Kevin Boss has made more clutch catches than any player on that list, maybe more than all of them combined (see: 45 yard reception in the super bowl) and this is only his third year in the league. Boss is probably the third best pass catching Tight End in the division and the second best Tight End overall behind Witten.
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by Hoyadestroya85 on Jun 1, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree people around here are slobbing Ingram a little to much. I happen to be the biggest Brent Celek fan in the history of TE fans and even I know when to put my man crush aside and look at the facts. Jason Witten is without question the best TE in the East, Cooley is 2nd. Kevin Boss is good and surprised a lot of people. The Giants new something when they sent Shockey away.
That said Boss and Celek had similar seasons last year (Boss) 33 rec 384 yards 11.6 avg. (Celek) 27 rec 318 yards 11.8 avg. Boss dominated Celek in TDs 6 to 1 but our redzone offense is/was horrendous. Either way I’ll give the edge to Boss for now but I think Celek has the potential to overcome both Boss, Cooley, and with my PR help even Witten.
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
Martellus Bennent would start on the Eagles..
We dont need WR’s with both Tight Ends we have and 3 backs who are all good.
I was only talking about the starters … but whether or not Bennett would start over Celek in the Eagles offense is debatable at best … you can’t know for sure … yet.
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
passed on Whitten
and to think the birds drafted LJ Smith with Whitten still on the Board (Whitten went 2 TE’s later)
by sports00fan00 on Jun 3, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
And WR's for that matter
this year, hands down the Eagles have the best WR corps. here are my estimations for stat totals…
DeSean Jackson: 1100 yards, 7 TDs, 400 YAC
Kevin Curtis: 650 yards, 2 TDs, 250 YAC
Jason Avant: 450 yards, 3 TDs, 100 YAC
Hank Baskett: 275 yards, 3 TDs, 120 YAC
Jeremy Maclin: 120 yards, 1 TD, 60 YAC
Question Marks——Reggie Brown if he makes the team
No way any other NFC East team comes close to that, maybe the Redskins if Thomas and Kelly actually perform
I gotta disagree...
Maybe not with the yards that part I see about right.. the thing is I think McNabb is gonna have a bang up year and only 16 TDs to his WR seems a bit short sighted to me. I’ll bump that up to 20 for you.. and spread out 10 more to his RB and TE. That’s right I said it… McNabb gets 30 TDs this year.
by IgglesFanDeployd on Jun 2, 2009 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions
You can't forget
That last year was the first season McNabb’s been healthy for a long time.. All it takes is one disturbed piece of turf and McNabb could be screwed. Not helping the fact is that he’s getting older.
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by Hoyadestroya85 on Jun 2, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Donovan
Will be 33 this year…not old for a QB, still younger than Peyton
"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs
All of those receivers have been known to have inconsistent hands
and Coach Reid will probably be allergic to running the ball. That’s the downfall of the Eagles offense right there
Jason Garrett is just as bad. You got three good runningbacks yet all Garrett calls up is some (predictable) passing play.
Moo.
by Imp on Jun 3, 2009 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions
He has been a co-ordinator for two years
and in the first, our offense set all kinds of club records.Garrett isnt bad
by aussie_cowboy on Jun 3, 2009 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Let's be fair:
Miles Austin – 2008 – 13 catches, 278 yards, 3 TD
But a guy going into his 4th year with 354 career receiving yards competing for a starting job is not ideal
Sam Hurd – No stats accumulated in 2008, had 19 catches for 314 yards, and 1 TD in 2007
Both of this guys went undrafted in 2006 and they took their time to develop, they were both lousy route runners with a lot of technique problems and Hurd had a season ending injury in one preseason game.
Tell me how much do you expect from an undrafted FA? And, in most scenarios, I’ll tell you what you’re going to get. If you’re lucky a Special Teamer.
I’ll grant that our team has the most undeserving of respect corp of WR, Roy Williams has only one year deserving of respect, the undrafted guys still need to show their development and Crayton is who he is. But they still have potential and one of the best QBs stats wise (yeah, I’m adding the stats wise part due to where I’m writing such a thing).
That’s more than what we can say about the Redskins and Giants.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
wait, what?
“That’s more than what we can say about the Redskins and Giants.”
Isn’t that EXACTLY what you could say about the Redskins and Giants? The Skins have 3 first day Wide Receivers entering their second season, any one of whom could potentially break out this year, plus a legit #1 guy. The Giants have nothing but potential – Hixon is just like Austin, a 4th year undrafted guy who has flashed potential but hasn’t really had enough of a chance to show what he is. Then, the Giants have Manningham and Moss, two first day guys with tons of speed and good college track records who haven’t done anything, yet, and two more first day rookie receivers.
Are Eli and Campbell as productive as Romo (stats wise)?
You may tell me that Romo will suffer from not having Owens, but the same is true about Eli and Plaxico. And Campbell doesn’t inspire much fear… That’s what I meant.
Now, if you add the fact that Romo had 2 years of work with Keyshawn Johnson and the kind of routes that he used to like, routes that they rarely used under Garrett, routes that Williams likes and where he can be used, our team only needs to adopt those kind of routes and you have a productive WR. Why things weren’t changed last year? You can’t change much of the Offense in midseason, you can’t change much of the Offense when your starting QB is down injured, or limited, and you can’t make many changes when the receiver himself is injured.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
Eli
has done better in the past when he’s forced to spread the ball around.
Guys like Shockey, TOomer and Plax all were primary targets. When Eli locks on one WR, he doesn’t do well cuz he can’t force balls in.
When Eli was at his best, he was looking off WR and throwing to the 2nd and 3rd options. Now with all these weapons on the team we could truly see that breakout season for Eli.
Ummm, are you saying that....
Romo didn’t looked at Witten, Terry Glenn and Patrick Crayton this past few years just because Owens was around?
No, you aren’t saying something like that, right?
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
I didn't refer
one word to the Cowgirls. I don’t knwo what Romo’s problem is, but its probably got something to do with those 5 cattle blocking for him and the fact that they suck.
I was just saying that people are all wrong when they think that Eli won’t be good with Plax and Toom gone.
The failure was on Gilbride for not changing up when he knew damn well, cuz Jim Johnson said it, that they were going 8 in the box with no Plax.
Yeah those fatasses suck
they’re big but there soft for some apparent reason. I still can’t figure it out
Flozell
is the problem.. the other 4 are pretty solid.. Flozell is a turnstile.
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by Hoyadestroya85 on Jun 3, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Is this
the first SBN post which has had significant interaction between fans of all 4 NFC East teams? Gotta say I’ve enjoyed the discussion.
Your Post are Jokes
They consist of Bashing teams…. And Licking the balls of every Eagles player. C’mon if you want to analyze do it show that Dallas is committed to going Younger… NYG dont need WR’s with there Line and Washington is just Washington. The Eagles have had 1 bright spot in ten years with Desean Jackson what if he slumps? then what do you have? nothing…. and hes not even that great. He’s just like Curtis, How many of you want a clone of Curtis?
He’s just like Curtis, How many of you want a clone of Curtis?
This statement right here proves you don’t know the Eagles or receivers in general.
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
He is right
And I’ll go farther to just call you a moron. Desean is the one bright spot in 10 years? How about 5 NFCC appearances and 1 SB appearance…bright spots over the last 10 years?
Donovan McNabb
Brian Westbrook
Duce Staley
Brian Dawkins
Sheldon Brown
TO (for one season)
Trent Cole
Stewart Bradley
DeSean Jackson
Should I go on?
"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs
I thought the post was about WRs. Desean is the one bright spot at WR.
In your history there is Carmicheal and Quick. At TE there was K Jackson.
I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the goverment from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
TE Chad Lewis, &
Tommy McDonald
Harold Carmichael
Mike Quick
Irving Fryar
Cris Carter
Terrell Owens
Fred Barnett
I’m sorry what were you saying? get facts before you post, as i stated in the reply to your previous post
http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=328982
by sports00fan00 on Jun 8, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Carter was on drugs then and wasnt great when he was in Phil.
I forgot about Fryar but he was steady and had longevity but not eaxactly greatness.(he was good) Tommy McDonald was great, cut me some slack on pre 70s. Owens was here 1 season, his season in the driveway doesnt count and you didnt draft him, he belongs in 49ers camp. I dont think Fred barnett belongs with the others. Was he better than Alvin Harper.
Sorry but I was talking all time greats. Im not dissing you, but WRs arent your best. In my lifetime when i think of your greatest players more defensive guys come to mind Im really not trying to get in a pissing contest. As a sportsfan, when ever we played the Eagles Names like Montgomery, Bergey, J. Brown, White , Joyner, Dawkins, Allen, ect… Thats off the top of my head. I can assure I never said or heard said, Oh crap Fred Barnett coming to town, can we stop him.
I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the goverment from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
byedawk showed a team that is commited to being younger...
here is how old your oline is…
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2009/5/16/877597/cowboys-and-redskins-oldest-o
here is the age of the eagles…
Youth
Did you notice the ages of the players I listed? A recap…
Avg. age of the starters… 27 years old.
Avg. age of the O-Line starters… 26.8 years old
Avg. age of our key reserves… 23.5 years old. I actually recalculated that because I figured it couldn’t be correct… But it is… 23.5 years old.
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2009/4/13/833142/how-young-are-the-eagles
Dude your stupid
Did i say oh we got younger over night? i said were committed to go younger. Cut Ellis and Terrel Owens who are 34, 36. Roy W who was 29 almost 30. Brad Johnson who was like 90, and Anthony Henry who was in his 30’s. I believe were definintly going younger and your a retard for posting that because no were did i say it happened over night.
so what are the Eagles doing?
…with younger players and better players…
Eagles are doing great with the players they have.
I wouldnt say there better. But last year you had as many regular season wins as us.
Yap.... I forgot Playoff wins mean more than SuperBowls to you guys.
Ask the Giants and the Skins how much playoff wins mean.
Yea none of us won it last year...
So I guess nobody should be doing any posting except on the Steelers blog…
awww, did we hurt your feelings?
personally, I don’t really remember the 90’s much. I do remember the sweet feeling after the eagles demolished dallas 44-6 last year to get into the playoffs.
Yap...... 44-6 Count it in the books
The best team ever you guys should get a trophey for that game. I mean it was 44-6 huh? C’mon nothing is measured in Playoff wins. Thats why in ten years people will be talking about The pats and the Steelers not the Eagles.
So whats the point of having discussions...
We should all just be bowing down to the Giants since they’re the only NFC East team thats won a SB recently…
the problem with cowboys fans
in an attempt to trivialize the accomplishments of the eagles, you all just fall back to “look how many rings we have”. Every year every team wants to win it all. only one does…therefore, you can’t measure everything in SB wins. I know that’d be convenient for the cowboys, since they have had success at that, which the eagles unfortunately haven’t had, but I don’t remember a single cowboys superbowl win. Hell, I dont remember one of their playoff wins, and I’m almost 21…
Who said anything about how many rings we have?
You can measure things with superbowls thats how everybody measures there success in. I mean what better way to measure yourself without saying im the best team in the NFL. The Pats and Steelers have been the best franchises in the NFL the last ten years not the Eagles? The Eagles havent done anything. If they have please tell me. You guys have a great team on paper but nothing eles, Mcnabb has shown he can win playoff games but beyond that hes 1 for 5 in the NFC championship and 0 for 1 in the superbowl.
LOL
Dude your stupid
your a retard
i’m sorry, but at least I know what a contraction is…also, if they’re so committed to getting younger, why are they so old right now? The eagles had 2 old offensive tackles last season who passed their prime, and now they have two yet to enter their prime. i guess that change wasn’t overnight…just over the offseason.
You cant claim someone is about to enter there prime.
Jason Williams Stuggles against the Pass Always has. So now hes gonna enter his prime and play great against the NFC’s Top defenses twice a year?
ohhhhhh
I figured he was referring to the eagle, Jason Peters, not some basketball player. this is fun!
Interesting points of view...
I like to hear how our team is garbage on the OLine just because of age and how your team is great because they’re young…
And then we hear about how your team beat ours last season 44-6 and how they won x amount of playoff games last year and how that amount is x times bigger than the amount of games our team has won in this past decade…
Question 1: Age of the starting Tackles in your team last year? Did it mattered that they were old?
Question 2: Age of the starting LT and LG/RG of the best OLine unit in the 90s on the way o 3 Super Bowl wins? Did it mattered that they elevated the average age of the unit?
Answer those question and then come to me with the same subject.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
i wasn't the one who brought up age...I just provided the data
to quote your fellow cowgirl fan…
They consist of Bashing teams…. And Licking the balls of every Eagles player. C’mon if you want to analyze do it show that Dallas is committed to going Younger
Haha...
Your Post are Jokes
Maybe. Maybe not. I can see why you wouldn’t like it, but then again, there isn’t really anything that I wrote in this post that isn’t the truth. They always get a shitload of rec’s and comments, so they can’t be all THAT terrible. Got you all fired up, didn’t it?
C’mon if you want to analyze do it show that Dallas is committed to going Younger
Well, I might write that if it were truly the case. They cut Ellis today, and that’s supposed to be a big youth movement? 4 Questions on that topic…
1) Which team (based about the average ages of their projected starting O-Line) has the oldest offensive line in the NFL? Answer… THE DALLAS COWBOYS. In fairness, it was the Redskins until a couple days ago, but they just released Jansen.
2) It’s just a couple of really old O-Lineman that are messing up the average though, right? I mean… they can’t all be old, can they? They sure can. Bby the end of the season, all five projected starters will be at least 31 years old.
3) Of their 12 draft picks how many were used on O-Linemen? ONE. That O-Line is in SERIOUS trouble next year and for the foreseeable future.
4) Also, didn’t they just sign Keith Brooking? They sure did. How old is he? He’ll be 34 in October.
NYG dont need WR’s with there Line
Must have missed the Giants/Eagles playoff game when the birds stuck 8 in the box, stopped the run, and dared Manning to beat them through the air. In case you did miss it, it didn’t work out so well for them. You put Burress on that team, I think they’re easily the NFC favorite. Without him, ehhhhh, it’s dicey.
The Eagles have had 1 bright spot in ten years with Desean Jackson what if he slumps? then what do you have? nothing…. and hes not even that great. He’s just like Curtis, How many of you want a clone of Curtis?
As my boy Whodie put it, you’re kinda clueless there.
so what are the Eagles doing?
….with younger players and better players…
They are busy...
….being Perennial Playoff contenders.
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by EagleGreeninMD on Jun 2, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
roy
roy williams is still the best wr in the division .. hes the only true number one with size and speed
by jack is better than asante on Jun 3, 2009 4:07 PM EDT reply actions
Roy Williams has talent, and a lot of it. I won’t deny that. However, I’d expect a ‘true number one’ to have eclipsed 850 yards more than once.
I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if he was awesome this season, but the fact remains that he only had one season better than the rookie year DeSean had last season.
this is true
but he also played in detroit . had bad qbs .. and they spread the ball around to stupid wrs like furrey and looker .. and calvin was there taking away most of the looks .. hes the only thing dallas has now
by jack is better than asante on Jun 4, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
if potential won NFL games
JIBTA would be the best GM in football, hands down
Let's get it.
by homestar2281 on Jun 3, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
BAHahahahahahaha
WORD!
"I want to maintain my flexibility."
-Andy Reid
by BroadStBullies on Jun 3, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Just remember
You heard it from JIBTA first!
"I want to maintain my flexibility."
-Andy Reid
by BroadStBullies on Jun 3, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
JIBTA
the “Karen” of BGN
for those of you who don’t get the reference:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl9VxVmXAxs&feature=related
by sports00fan00 on Jun 3, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
OMG thats funny
good shit!
"I want to maintain my flexibility."
-Andy Reid
by BroadStBullies on Jun 4, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Why not...
NFC East Brethren: If you had to take 5 guys from your team into a fight, who would you take?
Eagles:
Stewart Bradley
Shawn Andrews
Quintin Mikell
Sheldon Brown
Broderick Bunkley
by birds'n'raiders on Jun 3, 2009 10:44 PM EDT reply actions
Free Agents?
Plaxico
Pacman
Rodney Harrison
FredEx
JIBTA
The last two for obvious reasons
by sports00fan00 on Jun 3, 2009 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Justin Tuck
Justin Tuck’s Shadow
Chris Canty
Madison Hedgcock
Brandon Jacobs
Kareem McKenzie
…..yea, a RB and a FB…..
i see jibta def bein Brick…..
“Well that got out of hand quickly…Jibta killed a guy, was that a trident?”
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Jun 4, 2009 11:47 AM EDT reply actions
hey
if the glove dont fit . ray lewis taught me how to get away with it .. rey carruth called but i wasnt interesred in his advice..
by jack is better than asante on Jun 4, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you even know who Brick is??
JIBTA loves lamp.
by Iggles Fan 4 Life on Jun 4, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, JIBTA stabbed a man in the heart
"I want to maintain my flexibility."
-Andy Reid
by BroadStBullies on Jun 4, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hey, speaking of JIBTA
I’ve been thinking. JIBTA would be a lot more amusing if we could harness JIBTA-ness and use it against the cowpuke trolls around here. Problem is, I think he is a little too focused on getting us worked up and he is usually on their side.
JIBTA, you have a gift. You can get people pretty worked up. If only you could use your powers for good. Bye Dawk and Joe D write some funny shit over there, but they are all logic. Just imagine what JIBTA could do over at slobbing the boys or big blue poo with his special gift….
"I want to maintain my flexibility."
-Andy Reid
The lack of logic....
…..mixed in with sporatic blurbs of truth and the ever surmounting frustration would be proove too much for and cowpukes fans small minds to take…. Their heads would explode at the meer sight of his rantings as the shit they have for brains would slide down the wall in a lumping ooze! It would be craptacular.
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by EagleGreeninMD on Jun 4, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
What are you guys talking about.
We would blow up? ByeDawks Post are using more opinion and what he believes over reality. You guys think he’s god when in fact all he does is use selective stats to show you all how stupid you are. Ok Roy Williams is Garbage he said it, when in fact he was at best the third or fourth option in almost every play he was in, all this post does is show how stupid all of you are. and i like JIBTA i think he probally has the best head on his shoulders than all of you.
You guys think he’s god
Seriously dude?
And on Roy, I don’t think he’s ‘garbage’, but he has been underwhelming. In Detroit, where he was at worst the 2nd option in a highly ranked passing offense, he only broke the 850 yard mark once. 800 some yards is not bad by any stretch, but it’s not what you want out out your top go to guy, with a hefty price tag (both dollars and draft picks).
Great talent, lots of potential, and had some relevant excuses for last season (if your a guy who allows excuses, some don’t), but not the other years.
You =
You missed my point completely.
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by EagleGreeninMD on Jun 4, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
PIC FAIL
regaberto = 
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by EagleGreeninMD on Jun 4, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
In a fat, ugly sort of way, yes.
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by EagleGreeninMD on Jun 4, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
and thats not gay at all!
"I want to maintain my flexibility."
-Andy Reid
by BroadStBullies on Jun 4, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m the one that said Roy Williams is garbage.
6 years, and only 70 games, 281 catches, and 4,082 yards to show for it. Not horrible by any means, but for the 7th overall pick.
Let’s start with the super obvious: He’s missed nearly two years worth of games out of the six seasons he’s been in the league. That’s a knock against his durability, and it also hurts his numbers overall. Anyway, missing 1/3rd of your games is unacceptable.
281 catches for 4,082 yards. That’s an average of 4 catches for 58.3 yards a game. Talk about underwhelming for a guy you gut your draft for. You know who else averages 4 catches for around 60 yards a game?
Darrell Jackson. Deion Branch. Donald Driver.
Solid receivers, sure, but not great and not #1 receivers. These guys compare very closely to Roy Williams. And don’t talk about Roy Williams “potential”. He’s been in the league for 6 years. He’s not going to suddenly experience a ridiculous growth in production.
So you guys keep talking about him like he’s Larry Fitzgerald but know in the back of your mind you guys banked your future on a Deion Branch.
I am the people's troll :3™
What do you mean banked your future?
You guys realize you did almost the exact same thing with a left tackle who cant pass block…. Who led the leauge in sacks allowed and only played 13 games……. If we banked our future on Roy and that 40 mil contract what did you do with that 60 million dollar contract and Peters? you piss your future away?
lol
we still had a 1st round pick, a 2cd round pick, and kicked ass in the draft. You didn’t draft until day two! and in case you didn’t notice, we’re well under the cap. we’re pretty good with money, and most people claim we’re cheap (which we’re not).
Yeah, a trophy for that!
Just like your team received a trophy for rocking in the 2006 Draft, right? I mean, Justice and Jean-Gilles were 2 of the biggest steals in the decade! Right?
Ummmm, jumping to conclusions may come back and haunt you…
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
Jean-Gilles wasn’t bad as a 4th rounder – he played great in Andrews’ place last year until he got hurt. And seeing as we got 2 starters (Gocong and Bunkley) and 2 other contributors (Avant and Gaither), that wasn’t an awful draft at all. And this is the year you pick as a seemingly terrible draft? Try again.
how was your draft this year?
all i did was point out how your comparison is at best wrong, if not completely stupid. we did not do what you did. Both have high contracts, but the eagles are notoriously under the cap. the difference lies in the fact that the eagles were still able to do nearly everything they wanted to do in this years draft. whether or not those picks end up being good doesn’t really matter in this discussion because that’s a case of bad drafting, not mortgaging the future on one player. a la dallas
sorry regaberto
i usually am on your side .. but peters was well worth that .. we got him cheaper than we should have .. franchise tackles are hard to find .. and i do think roy is a good player .. and hes gonna have a good year .. and my best friend is a cowboys fan .. its actually fun to bust his balls when we beat them .. but just because hes a cowboys fan doesnt mean anything .. hes still my boy .. they still have some good players .. do i want the cowboys to win? noo ofcourse not .. im an eagles fan .. and regaberto doesnt want the eagles to win either.. but he wouldnt throw a brick at someone because they play for the eagles .. it is their carreer .. so you guys should realize its ok to say witten and ware are great .. and its ok to like players on other teams .. the eagles are my one love in the end .. but im not going to go on their site or talk shit about them because they are cowboys fans .. i like when fans bring facts and want to argue their teams .. i respect that .. i dont respect ppl just saying fuck the cowboys .. and your a troll blah blah
by jack is better than asante on Jun 5, 2009 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I didn't mind the giants fans that visited
but the majority of the cowboys fans that ventured over here were pretty annoying
Kudos the the G-MEN fans...
You know, you’re right. It’s funny – You rarely EVER hear a peep about the Giants Super Bowl win in 2007 from those guys on here. Meanwhile, the Cowboys haven’t won ONE playoff game since 1996 and they can’t get 2 consecutive sentences out without mentioning they have 5 SB’s (albeit a LOOOOOONG time ago).
There is real meat on this subject
Jason Peters has a truely elite season on his resume, 2007. And that’s it, in 2006 he played 7 games at RT and then move to LT. So, he pretty much has:
1 elite year.
1 really good year playing RT and LT.
1 awful year (that was actually his best year run blocking).
And I think: Whoa! It’s obvious! He’s going to be great!
Meanwhile, Roy Williams with:
1 elite year.
2 really good years.
1 good year.
1 awful year.
And I think: Whoa! He’s average at best! But most likely he’s going to stink!
Yes, LT and WR are 2 very different positions, yeah, but as acquisitions they’re very comparable.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
Roy Willams (+ 7th Rounder 2010)
trade : 1st Rounder (2009), 3rd Rounder (2009), 6th Rounder (2009)
contract : 5 years 45 mill 20 guaranteed
Jason Peters
trade: 1st Rounder (2009), 4th Rounder (2009), 6th Rounder (2010)
contract: 6 years 60 mill 25 guaranteed
Now I’m willing to part with that for a 27 year old LT, (and I have my reservations as I think he is a much better run blocker than pass blocker). But to part with all that money and picks for a 27 year old WR who has had a Reggie Brown-esque career I just don’t know.
You are right they are comparable acquisitions but risk reward I’m taking my chances with LT over WR any day.
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
No, Peters had a good....
…. 2007 in pass protection, but his team as awful running to his side, I think that they were in the bottom 5 in LE and LT runs. In 2008, Peters indeed led good run numbers to the left side, but was awful in pass protection.
Nice to see you allowing some of my point of view, in my lifetime I’ve had good and constructive conversations, or discussions, with Eagle fans. Looking up to more.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
It's FAR from comparable.
Peters is widely regarded as one of the top 3 tackles in the game, a position that is infinitely more important than WR. And what’s Roy Williams, the 30th best WR in the NFL?
facts?
you? talking facts? c’mon dude. seriously. your best friend is a cowboys fan? how does that happen? it makes me wonder. i’ll give regaberto one thing. he tries to deal in facts. i’d be willing to bet he might throw a brick at an eagle. just sayin.
Wow, is english not your first language too?
Thats chandus’s excuse, and even he has a better grasp on the language than you do.
all he does is use selective stats to show you all how stupid you are
I’ve read most of Bye Dawks comments and not once have I ever seen him use stats prove how stupid WE are.
I have seen him use stats to show why your team hasn’t won a playoff game in almost 20 years.
"I want to maintain my flexibility."
-Andy Reid
by BroadStBullies on Jun 4, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
uhh dude,
your team has NEVER won a super bowl
McScabb has more good chokes than Latrell Sprewell. Dude puked up both Big Macs in the only chance you will have to win the SB for the next 15 years. I forgot how many times you were favored to win the NFC championship and lost.
Say hello to 5-11 when he’s gone. At leas you won’t have to suffer through agonizing losses to the, ahem, Arizona Cardinals.
BTW, we know bye Dawk is a troll on our site. His effort is sophomoric, at best. Try dictionary.com to help with that.
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.
-Winston Churchill
Oh Snap!
We’ll if they can use the way back machine… we can too!
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by EagleGreeninMD on Jun 5, 2009 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions
When your team...
won their last Superbowl, they weren’t even your team. Looking at your name HudBaby I’m gonna assume you were too young and didn’t even know who the Cowgirls were. As for your dumb 5-11 comment, I seem to remember the 2006 Eagles winning 6 straight games, finishing 10-6, winning the East, and guess what winning a playoff game(something the Cowgirls have a 13 yr difficulty with) with 36 yr old Jeff Garcia under center. With how stacked and young this Eagle team is, even an average QB will keep the Eagles great for a loooong time. Now shoo! Get!
This place is crawlin with dipshit Cowgirls fans.
Taking Route 36 will bring you to Touchdown,PHI
To be....
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by EagleGreeninMD on Jun 5, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
POST # 300!!!!!!!
Woo hoo
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by EagleGreeninMD on Jun 5, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Should we be so hard on Cowboys fans?
There has been a lot of talk about the Cowboys WR situation and how they have settled with what they have. We have not given the Cowboys or JJ credit for what they are doing in Dallas. Do you not watch TV? Michael Irvin himself is in search for a wide receiver to invite to training camp. Yes, that’s right, a player who was not good enough to get drafted will be invited to the Cowboys training camp. Sad thing is he(whoever he is) will probably end up being there #2 receiver behind Roy Williams. I have seen the show and by no means is there anyone who even comes close to Vince P. It’s almost like they’ve been watching Invincible during the offseason. What’s next for the Cowboys… drafting a black qb from Syracuse in the first round?
Double ?
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by EagleGreeninMD on Jun 10, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
vince papale
he was a bum .. he was never any good .. im pretty sure there are some guys not playing in the nfl that could .. but you never find them .. its just how it works .. the show is for entertainment purposes .. theres no way the player makes the roster
by jack is better than asante on Jun 10, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
it's not about stats
it’s about morals and the american dream, hope during troubled times, a story to help you get through the day, and all that crap.. ur the bum. no one said papale was a good reciever, he played special teams, but it was still a heartwhelming story
by sports00fan00 on Jun 11, 2009 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions
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