Report: Eagles interested in Chad Johnson/Ocho Cinco
by JasonB on Apr 8, 2009 11:18 AM EDT
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Speaking on NFL Live, ESPN's Michael Smith reported that the Eagles have interest in trading for Bengals WR Chad Johnson. Or is it Chad Ocho Cinco? Whatever is his name is, Smith thinks the Eagles could make a move for him.
"I am hearing there is interest in Chad Johnson," Smith said. "Now there's been some back and forth as to whether or not he is officially on the market. I think everybody in Cincinnati has signed off on moving Chad Johnson except for owner Mike Brown. The Eagles could be in the picture. They have two first-round picks. They need a receiver."
I'd be happy to see Chad Johnson here, I'm not sure that it would take a first round pick as Smith seems to imply here... but it's a move worth making in my opinion. He is, without a doubt, an elite WR in this league and at 31 he's really in his prime. While I've said a few times this offseason that I don't think WR is our biggest need, I have said that playmaker is our biggest need. Chad is undoubtedly a playmaker and we'd be a better team with him.
Speaking to Howard Eskin a few weeks ago, Eagles president Joe Banner said a reason they didn't go after a guy like TJ Houshmandzadeh is that they didn't want to make a move that would prevent them getting an elite WR should one come available. Well, if this report is true... one is available.
Our pals over at Bengals blog Cincy Jungle have also mentioned the rumors, as well the fact that Chad is likely to be fined by the Bengals yet again for skipping workouts.
According to NFL.com it seems his name is quite literally now Chad Ocho Cinco. Luckily the Eagles currently don't have a player with #85...
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I'm of two minds about this...
On the one hand, Chad absolutely stunk it up last year, and it could be that his days as a playmaker are over. On the other, I consider how terrible Moss looked his final 2 years as a Raider, and what a difference he has made to the Patriots, another team which had been without a true #1 for years.
I’d say if you have a chance to get him, you have to take it. If Chad 85 is who he was 2007 and 2006, can you imagine him as #1, DeSean as #2, and Curtis as #3? That might be the best 1-3 in the NFL.
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." - Bear Bryant
and ankle surgery.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
and
he did not want to play there most importantly n deff doesnt anymore since his buddy tj left
by jack is better than asante on Apr 8, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
He's not TO
So please let’s not fill up this discussion with stupid comments like that. He’s a good player and I think would really make McNabb’s life a lot easier and probably more fun. I don’t think he’s worth a first round pick and maybe not even the Eagle’s late second. If the trade is Reggie Brown and a third round pick, how do you really say no?
www.okupy.com
you can’t
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
no kidding.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
noo
i think he would cost a third and a 5th ..
by jack is better than asante on Apr 8, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
yes, yes and YES!!!
I don’t think Cincinnati will make that trade, but the Eagles should try for it anyways. Chad is a great player and totally worth that offer.
The more realistic deal might be:
Chad Ocho Cinco for Reggie Brown, Winston Justice, Eagles 2nd round pick
by cybourgeoisie on Apr 8, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I say go for. It increases the talent level at a position of need. We can then focus our two first rounders on the O line and RB positions
could you imagine an offseason of,
Andrews, Jones, Weaver, Johnson, Moreno/Brown, Pettigrew/Britton.
That would be BANANAS.
City of Champions!
Ocho Cinco might not be worth a 4th round pick.
He’s a head case primadonna with tons of potential baggage – Sound like anybody?
Randy Moss has had tremendous success in NE. Seeing how he’s no Randy Moss, I’d be ok with giving Cincy our first 5th rounder…
what
your insane .. hes well worth a third .. and if he didnt have the year he had last year .. when he idd not want to play and was hurt .. we would be talkin two first for him .. washington was offering 2 first last offseason .. a third and a 5th is a steal
by jack is better than asante on Apr 8, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
your insane?
This use of the word your indicates possession. “Your insane post” would be acceptable, but your insane …
The correct wording is: you’re insane; which implies that you actually think me crazy.
And I am not – I simply disagree with you. How can a problem child who is no randy moss be worth more in trade than Randy was?
Perhaps I’d give up 2 of our 4 fifthrounders for him, no more.
by cavortingEagle on Apr 8, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
moss was a steal .. chad was worth 2 first last year .. why is boldin worth more than .. because moss is better than boldin. . not a good argument
by jack is better than asante on Apr 8, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
chad was worth 2 first last year
really?
Did he get traded for 2 first rounders last year?
2 first round picks is what he was not worth last year – as established by last year.
If the Eagles trade for a wideout the only one I’d trade a #1 pick for is Boldin based on his age, his production and his style of play. If he’s not available, so be it – draft somebody in the 2nd or third round and trade Reggie Brown for a 3rd or 4th round pick next year.
by cavortingEagle on Apr 8, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
nooo
chads value last off season was 2 first .. washington was very in on it .. and i agree hes not worht a first now .. not with torry holt still out there .. boldins not worth the first either .. hes a good reciever who benifits from playing next to larry fitz .. id prefer chad actually .. same numbers .. more entertaining .. and would be a lot cheaper
by jack is better than asante on Apr 9, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
4th rounder?
The Eagles took Mike McGlynn with their first pick in the 4th round last year…not that I don’t like McGlynn but Chad is definitely worth more than that…
This makes sense for both teams,
They must have know this was gonna happen.
They stood away from Housh, Harrison, Holt, and no mention of Edwards and little on Boldin.
The Bengles will likely draft Crabtree anyway. This makes way too much sense.
City of Champions!
He’s a good player and I think would really make McNabb’s life a lot easier and probably more fun.
Until Chad decides he’s not getting enough attention and then all hell will break loose…..I have to say I’d rather not see this guy as an Eagle…..I’m not saying this guy is TO…..he’s a totally different type of locker room detractor than TO. Also seeing that he’s already been fined by the Bengals for not showing to up to workouts? Really? You guys want a canker sore like this in our locker room? WIth the loss of Dawk we need our locker room to gell quickly and for some new leadership emerge. I just don’t think Chad will want to be a part of that……Chad loves him some Chad….and money, and that’s about it. I’m getting sick just thinking about this, ugh. I’d much rather see us go after Percy Harvin or Crabtree in the draft than sign this joker.
Loooooook here brotha'.....who you jivein' with that Cosmic Debris!!!???
he will get all the attention he wants here. We worship good receivers.
Just recall 25 thousand for Lehigh practice to see TO
City of Champions!
Ya, but by the end of his time here how did everyone feel??? I’m all for receiver worship, and for us upgrading that position, it just makes my guts roll over thinking this guy might be an Eagle. The guy refers to himself in the third person so much Interviewers pose questions to him in in the third person! I watched Jamie Dukes and Marshal Faulk interview him before last year and it was all about “What’s going to make Chad Happy?” “What does Chad want from the Bengals?” “Does Chad think he can win a Super Bowl with the Bengals?” REALLY? This guy is purely self serving. I was all for Housh coming in! He’s a team player w/ slot skills and sticky hands, great fit. I’m not saying Chad isn’t a good reciever, I’m just saying there are to many ? marks about this guy as a human being for me to want to bring him in. He’s just not what an “Eagle” is in my mind.
Loooooook here brotha'.....who you jivein' with that Cosmic Debris!!!???
85
Mcnabb has a good relationship w/ 85, he wouldnt be a nuisance at all….The Eagles are consistantly in the playoff picture so he wouldn’t have anything to say….get beyond the TO fiasco…..
He would be a great pick up if we didnt give up too much to get him….i can picture all of philly doin the river dance w/ 85 in the endzone…
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Apr 8, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Mcnabb has a good relationship w/ 85, he wouldnt be a nuisance at all
And you know that how???? Really Chad isn’t comparable to TO which is why I said this……“he’s a totally different type of locker room detractor than TO”. Just saying, I think the guys is a first class Turd Burglar and I’d rather see us spend our resources on someone that’s not an a-hole. That’s all. I can’t stand him.
Loooooook here brotha'.....who you jivein' with that Cosmic Debris!!!???
no, actually greenbean is right…
The relationship with Chad and #5 is great. I really dont think Chad would be the kind of locker room presence TO was and if he starts acting up, i fully believe #5 would be able to settle him down. Plus, all the fans in the Linc would digg Ocho Cinco…
knowshon... Knowshon... KNOWSHON!!!!
thank you
Thought it was common knowledge that the two have a good rapport with each other.
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Apr 8, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
It's true, check out this link. . .
It’s a story of how 5 settled down 85 when he was demanding a trade.
http://abclocal.go.com/wjrt/story?section=news/sports/pro/football&sa=NFL&eid=3700013
look at the cincy v. Philly game last year
ocho caught balls from McNabb and hit his knees thanking god for a quarterback like him. They know each other well as others have referenced #5 calming ocho down last year and if you can get him for less than a first round pick and just a second and a lower with a player or two why not. They don’t want him there because he doesn’t want to be there if he came to the Eagles I would bet my left nut his production would go back close to the numbers he had in 2006-7. That would be awesome I hope this doesn’t end like last year with these trade rumors being pure bull shit.
yeah greenbean is kinda dead on here bro
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
Honestly, that's good news!
And I’m glad to here it. I’m still not a fan of Chad but my opinion of him would change dramatically if he helps us win a SB! Not sure who said this on this thread but with a Chad, Desean, Curtis wideout combo we’d all of the sudden have one of the best starting WR corps. in the NFC! Crazy!
There is no denying that Chad would draw a lot of double coverage and be an instant asset on the field; and if he’s coming in with a smile on his face and a working relationship with #5…….this could actually work! At least long enough for us to win the big one! Which is all we want right?!
Loooooook here brotha'.....who you jivein' with that Cosmic Debris!!!???
what
how can you not like chad .. hes hilarious .. and mcnabb and him are boys .. its common knowledge
by jack is better than asante on Apr 9, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
what
crabtree is way gone .. harvin is small and is also likely gone .. chad is cheap and well worth it .. do it! much better than boldin because hes cheaper and gives you the same if not better production .. and hes entertaining .. his ocho cinco jersey will sell a ton
by jack is better than asante on Apr 8, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Anything more than a 3rd rounder and I won’t like it. If the Bengles want Reggie Brown, I would say send him. We aren’t going to use the cap room cutting him would take up anyway, and it keeps our salaries lower for whatever happens next year.
by Clyde Simmons on Apr 8, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
cutting
no way he gets cut .. he still makes this team .. reggie curtis desean chad avant baskett
by jack is better than asante on Apr 8, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Everything I’ve heard on the radio today says that he is worth no more than a second rounder…and that is even a stretch.
No way AR parts with a 1st rounder for this guy
by superbowlpukin on Apr 8, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Good, because ...
… I think everytime a receiver’s name comes up for possible trade two huge assumptions are made:
They have two first-round picks. They need a receiver."
1) They don’t NEED a receiver. A more awesome one would certainly help, but it’s not a must-need.
And if you disagree …
2) Do they NEED a receiver more than what they NEED with their two first-round picks?
I would back any deal bringing 85 to town as long as it didn’t involve the 21 or 28. I am getting more and more intrigued by the possibilities those picks bring us.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
I see this being like a TO… I know I know.
We’ll get 1 good year out of him and he’ll be loved by all. Then something happens we turn on him and he gets emotional about it.
That said….. only need 1 good year to earn a Superbowl
He’s an ego maniac for sure… but has Chad ever attacked teammates like TO? I don’t think so. He’s wanted more money, he likes to do silly end zone dances, he changes his name… but has ever attacked his QB or teammates like TO?
and when it came down to playing he shut up and wasn’t a distraction.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
true…
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
Exactly ...
… Chad is quite the opposite of T.O. when it comes down to it.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
I normally dont buy into the “oh he was just causing trouble because his team sucked” logic because I believe that players who are whiners will always find something to complain about. that being said, the Bengals are a unique breed of suck so I’m willing to overlook Johnson’s antics in Cincy.
like Jason said, Johnson is very different from T.O. their both enigmatic head cases but Johnson’s is a much more playful, less disruptive type. He is definitely a showboater but I have yet to see him seriously putting his own interests above the team. remember in 07/08 when he said he was going to stop doing endzone dances because the Bengals were sucking? I know that sounds like common sense but T.O. would never say something like that.
Johnson is a risk no doubt but you have to take risks to win the superbowl
by njh3293 on Apr 8, 2009 1:03 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Bengals fan here
i really hope the offer isnt a 3rd and 5th or Reggie Brown. That would be terrible and it for sure wont go down with Mike Brown. He really wants all he can get for Chad. Thats why last year he turned down the Redskins offer of potentially 2 first round picks. He thinks Chad is a great player and that he is still at the top of his game, so it would be hard to see him take such a low offer. if it happens its because everbody else in the organization is willing to trade Chad, and the entire organization is his family, so he might listen to them.
My take: if it does go down, please give us that 5th round pick. im not sure Reggie Brown would even make our team
Reggie Brown and a 4th is about right
Don’t go overvaluing him, because the Eagles sure as hell won’t.
ur nuts, we would never take that
Hey why dont you give us one of your best players for a 4th and somebody that isnt going to make either of our teams?
by Joe Goodberry on Apr 8, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Not true. He gives them alot of headaches and hasn’t had an elite season in quite a while. If the Raiders traded a headache like Moss for a 4th rounder, I see no reason why the Bengals wouldn’t do it too.
by Clyde Simmons on Apr 8, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
he hasnt had an elite season in just one season. the year before he had career high in yeards. He gave us headeaches even when he was doing his thing, we can handle it, as long as hes producing. So can you guys, thats why the Eagles may trade for him, but were arent giving him away. We want Equal value
by Joe Goodberry on Apr 8, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
added to what clyde said, unless i am mistaken the issue with the trade last year was as much caproom as anything else. chad had 2 yrs left would be a huge cap hit. i believe he is a free agent after this year. the bengals have to know chad will not be back next year. why not get whatever you can for the guy. his market value is down no matter how much you protest, after last season he will not see that type of trade that boldin or edwards would have seen. injuries do that. had stacy andrews not gotten injured the eagles may not have gotten a sniff at him or at the very least would have had to shell out more than they did to get
chad is under contract until at least 2011 but some places say 2012
So if we dont trade him, hes not going anywhere
by Joe Goodberry on Apr 8, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
won't happen
This is going to be tough. The Eagles won’t overpay. Cincy will point to the ridiculous Roy Williams trade and use that as a starting point. This just won’t happen. Let’s hope DeSean and Kevin can play all 16 games next year.
www.okupy.com
i agree
i think a 3rd and a 5th is realistic .. but a second and a 5th isnt out of the question .. first pick is right .. your trying to lowball cincy wit that offer
by jack is better than asante on Apr 8, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
no
they dont want reggie .. they are takin crabtree if hes there .. a 3rd and a 5th
by jack is better than asante on Apr 8, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
TJ
is another possesion receiver .. hes not all that great .. his yards per catch blows
by jack is better than asante on Apr 9, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not convinced Chad is much of a receiver right now either. Last year may have been injuries or sulking or whatever, or it may have been a glimpse at his future. You can’t write off a bad season as “well, he was injured”. TJ may just be a possession huy, but he’s a prolific possession guy and the Eagles have the budding playmaker in DeSean. I was never convinced Chad was a good as Chad thinks Chad is.
no way
we dont need no more damn possesion wrs .. curtis is a possesion guy .. reggie is one .. avant is one .. and desean is one with big play ability .. we need a big tall wr who can stretch the field
by jack is better than asante on Apr 10, 2009 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Chad's 6'1"
He’s not exactly a tall WR, he’s pretty average height wise. I’m not arguing your basic point, I’m just not big on Chad. If we got him for a 3 or 4 great, but it’s moronic to talk about trading 2 #1s for him like some have suggested. Bunch of Ditkas.
Bring him in!
Sure he’s a little bit into the ego, but he also seems like a guy who legitimately loves to play football. Like when they told him he couldn’t do end zone celebrations anymore I saw him do some interviews and he seemed really upset, not like angry or belligerent or anything, but upset. It may seem like it’s fully for the ego but he has a personality that just likes to joke around. I know a while ago he used to do stand-up for like a minute or so to open up a comedy show in cincy. So when they took his celebrations away it was more of a problem for him because he couldn’t express himself in a fun, playful manner anymore. Also, he wasn’t really causing problems with his dances and such, I didn’t see him standing on the Dallas Star or anything. Give the guy a shot, he’s not the same as TO
"Now Sav Rocca played for the Magpies in Australia. I don't know if it's a bird or a pie or what it is." Ike Reese
i hope
i hope he is the same chad as before .. and TO is the man!
by jack is better than asante on Apr 8, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
uh huh
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
drew
drew is the man!! i wanted to be a sports agent since i was about 10 and idolized drew .. hes the man .. hes wolverine
by jack is better than asante on Apr 8, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
NO.
Dawk is Wolverine.
Drew is is a sickophant.
by EagleGreeninMD on Apr 8, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
he’s a douche… i see he’s appeal to you
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
go figure
the only Eagle under drew’s thumb is ikegwonu
by andyreidswaistline on Apr 8, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
hahah
i know .. jacks a smart guy .. drew gets paid
by jack is better than asante on Apr 9, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
This is the guy you like?
Scott Boras may get an extra couple million for some of his clients, but they have to sell their souls.
www.okupy.com
Chad= NOT a "head case"
Sure Ocho Cinco may have been critical of the team’s FRONT OFFICE once in a while, but he has NEVER thrown teammates or coaches under the bus like T.O. has done.
Chad is playful. T.O. is vengeful. There’s a big difference. I don’t see how anybody can really say that Chad is the same mean-spirited type of guy that Ocho Uno was…
by cybourgeoisie on Apr 8, 2009 3:50 PM EDT reply actions
Oh Dear God
First off, for those of you who get pissy with people for the constant blogs about WR receivers, I sure hope you are not participating in this conversation. This is no different than any other fantasy convo that is out there. (Boldin, Edwards, Crabtree, etc.) I see nothing in this story that says anything but speculation. So take it for what it is worth.
Regarding Ocho Cinco, maybe I just have not seen him enough but I saw a few of his games last year. He sucked in those games. I know what his numbers state over his career but I have also seen nothing to believe he is not also on the decline. Would I take him over Reggie Brown, Hank Baskett, and even Jason Avant? Yes. I would not trade anything of value for him though. No higher than a 4th round pick. I’d give up a 4th, 5th, and Reggie Brown.
As for the guy slighting any offers for Reggie Brown that don’t involve our first round pick, do you have any receivers on the Bengals once Chad is gone? What makes you think Reggie does not make the team? Last time I checked, the Bengals roster is not all that stacked. Then again, you tied us so maybe…..
What makes you think Reggie does not make the team? Last time I checked, the Bengals roster is not all that stacked. Then again, you tied us so maybe…..
If the Bengals traded Chad…
We would have Laverneous Coles, Chris Henry, our 2nd round pick last year (jerome Simpson) and our 3rd round pick last year (andre Caldwell) both are ready to step in. and if we trade chad there would be a big chance we would draft another WR this year. So Reggie Brown would have a tough time making our team
by Joe Goodberry on Apr 9, 2009 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions
i agree
reggie makes our team .. he deff makes the bengals .. chad is worth a second .. but his value is down .. so a third and a 5th might get it done
by jack is better than asante on Apr 9, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
BUGZY is all for ocho…
..but for only the right price.
3rd and 5th sound fair.
i put no stock in his season last year. he had no hunger and it seemed like the bengals were phasing him out some because of his off field antics.
3rd and a 5th is beyond fair.
I’d even go for a 3rd and a conditional 2010 pick (up to a 4th)
I am the people's troll :3™
well
a second and a 5th isnt evne that bad.. no one thinks they will get a first for him .. but a second and a 5th still works for me
by jack is better than asante on Apr 9, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
This would be great!!
McNabb and 85 DO have a great relationship. . .check out this link if you didn’t see it above:
http://abclocal.go.com/wjrt/story?section=news/sports/pro/football&sa=NFL&eid=3700013
And for those worried about his last year stats, he was hurt. He had a partially torn labrum in his left shoulder:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=txbengalsjohnson&prov=st&type=lgns
He played through it. I say get him and get him now, we’ll reap a Super Bowl win because of it!!
Ocho Cinco..
I say lets go for it! With Ocho on one side Jackson on the other and Curtis in the slot this wide receiver core would be the leagues elite. It’s now or never. Go EAGLES..
My guess is Jackson would go in the slot.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
really? I would think that keeping Jackson and Johnson on the outside would stretch the D to the breaking point and give Curtis a whole lot of space to work with… although I do like the thought of Jackson having said space too… at that point, a 5 yard pass would turn itno a punt return situation…
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
DJ is great in space, awesome at finding holes in zones and there isn’t a linebacker that can come close to catching him. All this is also true for Kevin Curtis but I like him on the outside better because of has (albeit small) size advantage and his ability.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
curtis
curtis is the slot reciever .. he prefers it there .. hes small and very quick .. hes a better wes welker in the right offense .. and he was great in ST louis in the slot
by jack is better than asante on Apr 9, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
he prefers it there
Did he tell you that? because he signed with the Eagles to be an outside threat and get out of the slot where he was stuck in St Louis. I know he would be great there but I’d rather have DJ in the slot and Curtis on the outside.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
You guys are crazy.
3rd and 5ths? 4th for 85? The bengals didnt even take 2 1st rounders last year from the Redskins! They are gonna want atleast a 2nd rounder and i would do it in a heart beat. Not only does that instantly make us a Superbowl team. We wont have to worry about Mcnabb not wanting an extension. Chad and Mcnabb are friends. After Mcnabb talked to him last season, did you hear another word out of Chad’s mouth the second half of the year?? Now lets say Randy Moss was getting traded, all of you that dont want Chad would go nuts for him. Randy Moss was even a worse character and had 3 straight bad seasons until he went to the Patriots and they went undefeated. Before last year 85 had 6 straight years of 1100 yards or more. He still is an elite receiver.
Taking Route 36 will bring you to Touchdown,PHI
The bengals didnt even take 2 1st rounders last year from the Redskins!
What the Bengals WANT and what his actual value is are two different things… And you want to use Moss as a comparison? Okay… When the Pats traded for Moss, he was 30… So a year younger than Johnson…
Moss’s career averages at the time of the trade: 75 receptions, 1189 yards, 11 tds, 15.8 ypc.
Johnson’s career averages right now: 77 receptions, 1113 yards, 7 tds, 14.5 ypc.
Moss was traded for a 4th rounder, was he not?
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
differnt
moss was a diff situation . the patriots stold him from the raiders .. the raiders sign gibril wilson .. he has a probowl type season .. they cut him .. how can anything they do count.. chad was worth two first last year .. someone will offer a second and a 5th .. id do it
by jack is better than asante on Apr 9, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
no one stold nothin’
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
yes
the patriots stole moss from that Franchise .. if u can call it a franchise in oakland
by jack is better than asante on Apr 10, 2009 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions
you clearly missed the point of my post.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
hahahahahaha
right over his head….
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Apr 10, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
this would be amazing if it happened and from what i hear we wouldnt lose either first round pick. So we can still draft who we want to. He will open up curtis and jackson for more catches and tds not to mention the ability he will bring to the team. still switch up the rotations but try to keep him on the field he will open everyone else up and plus hank basket will learn from a possession widereceiver
From reading these posts, I think most of you are suffering from pre-draft hysteria. We need Ochocinco. He is a proven, not to mention extremely productive player, and would be a tremendous upgrade over any receiver on our roster. He is in the midst of a HOF career and nowhere near finished. His stats may have been down last year but he played the entire season with a torn labrum! The guy is an elite talent and a real gamer. At this point in his career all he needs a fresh start. He is definitely worth a late first and the Iggs have one to spare. If we drafted a WR we could only hope that whoever it is would one day-years,probably- turn out to be a player as good as Ochocinco is right now. Okay, he is a narcissist, as well as a flamboyant prima donna, but he is basically harmless, I think, and definitely not as destructive and corrosive as T.O. Anyway, I would like to see him in Green. I know it is somewhat unpalatable to think of trading away a high pick so close to draft day, but wouldn’t it also suck to go into the upcoming season with DeSean Jackson as the #1 wr? I would like to see us get Ochocinco for peanuts, but that doesn’t seem likely. Look at what the fucking Cowboys had to give up to get Roy Williams. Even Deion Branch went for a late !st pick. Neither of those guys are half the player that Ocho is. I think the Iggs should offer their second pick in the !st round for Ocho-weirdo.
Use paragraphs ...
… a lot more people will read your posts that way.
I skipped to the end. I would back a trade of our No. 2 for 85.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
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