Breakout player of 2009...
by EZ55 on Apr 6, 2009 7:31 PM EDT
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Of all the players on the current roster, who do you believe will have a breakout season this year?
Will DeSean Jackson be the breakout receiver we think he may be? He had a great start in his rookie year, but now that teams know who he is and have film to game plan against him, will he be able thrive on that and give us a 1,000 yard season? He surely has the potential, but will he deliver?
How about Stewart Bradley? We all know his name here in Philadelphia, but will he step his game up another level and become a household name in this league? The kid is smart and has the talent, but does he have Ray Lewis-type potential? He has the chance this season to become the voice and leader of this defense. I'd like to see him get a little more emotion and excel this defense.
Maybe it could be Asante Samuel. He had a great year last year, especially down the stretch. But I know we all sighed as we saw quite a few balls go through his hands last year. Granted, he did make the pro bowl, but I feel that with one year of experience under JJ's defense, he can go out there and play a little bit better since he shouldn't have to think as much.
Could Chris Clemons come out and dominate at defensive end? I saw some great things from this guy towards the end of the year, but it seemed a little inconsistant at times. He had some troubles with his health in the offseason last year, and I believe that hindered him in the first half of the season. Could his second year on the team be his breakout season. I see the potential.
I could make an argument for a number of players on this team to have a breakout season. Maybe Celek proves that he can be that go to tight end? Or could Jason Avant continue to show us that he gets better and better every year and could be that go to clutch receiver? Maybe David Akers finally breaks out of his "slump" and becomes the kicker we always knew as "automatic" again. Maybe Lorenzo Booker breaks out and rushes for 1,000 yards this season? OK, the Booker thing is a joke!
Anyway, I just wanted to see who you guys feel could take this year by storm! What do you think? It could be somebody I listed or anybody I haven't listed. Maybe it could be a new member this year like Sean Jones, Leonard Weaver, or Stacy Andrews? I know it's early, but I think this would be something fun to discuss.
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…DeSean had 912 yards last year, so 1K wouldn’t be a stretch. I want to see if he can up that TD total from two (three if you count the Dallas game) to like 8-10. That would be a huge step.
I personally want to see what Bryan Smith, Chris Clemons and Victor Abiamiri can do on the D-Line. If those guys could get consistent pressure it would negate the need for blitzing and would make blitzing more effective when utilized.
Also, I am personally still high on Lorenzo Booker – not 1,000 yards though :-) – and I think he will put it all together this year. Hopefully they find a way to use him more in the passing game.
by ajay on Apr 6, 2009 7:59 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Abiamiri
this kid is supposed to have so much potential according to Jim Johnson. I am really excited to see what this kid can do
knowshon... Knowshon... KNOWSHON!!!!
he looked good at the end of last year … and so did Chris Clemons
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
I remember
watching that block and absolutely flipping shit in my living room
Wait, why do we even want to draft a TE? Lets just put Clemons up on the line!
About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.
Stewart Bradley. I was high on him all last season and he will only get better. its easy to forget that last season was his first full season and he was the starting middle linebacker, basically the quarterback of the defense. he only played in 2-3 games in his rookie year and he played outside LB then. Bradley will only get better, I look to him to be the replacement for Brian Dawkins as the physical/emotional leader of the defense.
honestly i think last year he played good enough to make the probowl but
he doesnt have name recognition i think one more year like last year and hes a probowler
To me the Eagles are like that girlfriend that pisses u off, then u hate her, but the next morning you wake up and remember that thing u love so much about her
by XxBleedGreen5xX on Apr 7, 2009 7:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree with Bradley
His will be my new jersey this year. I’m really high on this kid!
"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs
The big Q on D
quintin mikel will be the breakout player. last year he was the breakout player posting probowl number but not getting selected because he was not a high profile name. This year he will make the probowl because with numbers his good you don’t stay low profile for long. He’s so low profile fling under dawkin’s shadow you failed to mention our future probowl SS.
by AllPhillySport on Apr 10, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
mikell
he wont make the probowl .. wilson is a lock .. and the kid from washington is better than him .. he better hope for an injury
by jack is better than asante on Apr 11, 2009 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Actually...
…the more I think about it, there are a ton of players we drafted in 2008 that have me excited. Maybe Laws can be that DT that gets to the QB consistently? What about McGlynn – could he win a starting guard spot? And even Joe Mays and King Dunlap have a lot of upside and both looked interesting in the preseason.
I agree
I could see Laws getting a lot better. I even liked the pressure Klecko got on the QB last year before Tony Hunt sucked it up at FB and we lost him at DT..I think I’m a little worried about Bryan Smith’s size, but then again, there is Trent Cole and we know what he can do out there being an undersized DE..i’m very interested in what the 2008 draft class can deliver this year!
I am gonna throw this out there on a long shot and you are all gonna think i am nuts.....
Winston Justice
IF there is a chance for Justice to prove himself it has to be this year. He has already said in interviews he knows his back is against the wall. The kid has always had a motivation problem. the talent is there, the aggressiveness and motivation have not been. Point blank if he does not show up this year at camp there is a good chance he is not on the team, maybe that is enough to get him motivated and playing at the level they expected.
+1
I think a lot of the guys mentioned are already broken out, so to speak, and it only remains to be seen as how high they can go. Justice is a classic case of a player with as much talent as anyone in the league who just needs to flip a switch. If he does flip that switch in whatever scenario would call upon him to, then he becomes a top 10 tackle in the NFL. He has the talent to.
winston
hes not that bad .. he gets a bad rep .. they threw him to wolves in that giants game .. you cant expect a rookie to block that d line .. and he didnt play much last season .. he deff makes this team .. you are all too high on mike mclynn .. with cole and MJG .. i dont know if he even makes this team .. im asuming they draft atleast two linemen too .. hes a borderline roser guy .. MJG is the man .. hes gonna push herramans for that guard spot .. he was great in college and hes massive .. and he was underrated last year .. everyone praises nick cole for what he did .. but MJG was far more effective before getting hurt .. with MJG and andrews at the guards we could be set for the next 5 years .. herramans is a decent linemand but nothing special .. MJG is special .. my breakout player .. im not going with jack .. even tho i want to .. cuz i have a man crush on him lol .. im going with reggie brown .. he is arguably the most talented wr on this team .. i know you all love desean .. and hes great .. but hes undersized .. reggie has all the tools and he was developing nicely until last year .. i dont see the eagles bringing in any vetern wrs or drafting one high .. look for reggie to bouce back and have close to a 1000 yards and about 6 to 8 tds
by jack is better than asante on Apr 7, 2009 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions
on brown, desean and the size argument
You know what i am tired of your “you can’t teach size” argument you sound like freakin al davis. You may not be able to teach size but you can certainly teach someone how to beat size. You also can’t teach speed or agility which desean beats out just about everyone on the team in those 2 categories(incidentally you beat size with speed and agility).
doesn’t saying “bounce back to have blah blah blah” entail that he’d be bouncing back to resume his normal output?
YEAR REC YDS TD
2005 43 571 4
2006 46 816 8
2007 61 780 4
2008 18 252 1
Career 168 2419 17
Avg 42 605 4
Really not seeing him “bouncing back” to have a “close to 1000 yard season and about 6 to 8 tds.” Him having a 600 yard year and 4-5 tds would be alot more accurate. Additionally, being the 4th or 5th wr on the depth chart may hinder his cause… just a bit.
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
by foos05 on Apr 7, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
what?
4th wr! are u kidding me .. no way avant starts over him .. hes the third at worst .. and MJG is big .. hes gonna be something special .. nick cole did a good job but hes just a decent back up .. lets all get on celeks ass because he had one good game in the playoffs .. he cant block anyone and he is average pass catching TE .. we need b pett and he comes in immedietly and starts .. and btw .. 4 8 and 4 .. not bad compared to deseans 2 .. should be 3 .. deseans good .. and hes great in the open field .. but reggies more physically gifted .. and avant is nonsense .. hes a carreer back up .. eagles fans always over value their players .. celek is over rated! he didnt do anything till the nfc championship game that i deemed special .. how does one game make him a legit starter??!!! and herrmans is not anything special .. you will see .. if they bring in peters than herremans is gonna have to fight of MJG for his job
by jack is better than asante on Apr 7, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
eagles fans always over value their playersI’d rather over value a guy like Celek who’s actually played in the NFL then over value some kid who played well (just well not great) in college like you do with Pettigrew.
And aren’t you being a bit of a hypocrite by over valuing MJG because there was no slip when Nick Cole came in so they can’t be that different right? I love MJG I thought he was a monster when he came in but then Cole came in and played just as well.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
jack
jack is certainly more talanted .. asante is a bit over rated and jumps routes .. hes still a good nfl corner tho .. but jack has champ baley ability
by jack is better than asante on Apr 7, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
How can you say that when he hasn’t play a down in the NFL yet and Asante has the most picks in the last 4 years or something like that Asante is the fucking man dude.. you should be grateful he is on our team
DeSEAN JACKSON THE ONE
Yeah, I don't even know why
you humor this attention-seeker.
Sounds like he didn’t get a lot of hugs from Mom.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
come on guys
if we expect jack to be nice, lets be nice to him as well
knowshon... Knowshon... KNOWSHON!!!!
im not
i could of found a lot better ways to spend that money
by jack is better than asante on Apr 7, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
hes good
hes a good corner .. sheldons actually better than him . but because of asantes deal hes here to stay .. and sheldon will be gone within two years .. asante jumps routes and is decent in coverage .. he does have great closing speed and breaks on the ball very well .. there are some great corners in the nfl ..and no one recognizes them .. asomugha .. bartell .. finnegan .. and anthony henry .. hes very underrated
by jack is better than asante on Apr 7, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Hahaha
No one recognizes the greatness of Asomugha, Finnegan and Bartell? They were both Pro Bowlers this year. And Bartell just got a new contract.
But no, you’re the only genius that recognizes them…
yes
but people on here think asante is on a diff level .. when in reality they are all better cbs .. and sheldon is actually the best corner last season .. not questioning your abilty to know the names .. but how many people have really watched them play .. there are a lot of people on here who probably didnt know who bartell and finnegan were
by jack is better than asante on Apr 7, 2009 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
i guarantee you
nobody here would rather have Asante Samuel than Nnamdi Asomugha at this point in their respective careers. However, I’m glad to have Asante locked up for the next few years, because while Nnamdi is rotting in Oakland with a long contract on a losing team, we have an interception machine (asante) lined up across from a shut-down corner (sheldon) in a young defense (Bradley, Gaither, Jordan, Gocong) that will only get better.
Finnegan is a damn good corner, but let’s not forget
About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.
...not forget
how good their pass rush was last year. When the QB has no time to throw, any corner can look really, really good
About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.
i agree
i agree that sheldon is more shut down than asante .. but i dont think hes worth his money .. if he was making a lil less id say hes worth it .. i like having two good corners .. but asante isnt a top 5 corner .. yet hes paid like it .. my argument isnt really that asantes not good .. hes good .. hes just over rated and not as good as people think .. if hes a top 15 corner .. which he prob is .. than hes obviously good .. being paid like a top 5 .. means you can be over rated and still good
by jack is better than asante on Apr 8, 2009 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
lol
If we are making the argument of “overratedness” and being paid more than your worth, then I think its kind of fruitless. There are a lot of players being paid more than they are worth. In light of that, just like other positions there are different types of CB, a physical one, a ball-hawk, a shut-down, a hard hitter, etc etc. I think we have the right combination of it with Sheldon and asante. Granted I’d like having the more…taller (?) CB. What we paid Asante to do was generate more turnovers. Did he do that when we needed them? Yes. Then was the money well worth it? You decide.
I can only respond with Jack Ikegwuono is also over rated and over paid. He hasn’t played in a game, I’d love to get paid and not have to work, until he actually does something on the field then I will contend that he is over rated and over paid, by your standards.
I like Jack and I’m very optimistic about him this year but to hold him above Asante is ridiculous and to say that Asante isn’t worth the money we paid is also ridiculous he makes plays that’s what matters. GAME CHANGER.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
hes not
he cant tackle and jumps routes .. if he was making sheldon money hes worth it .. but sheldons the better corner .. hes overpaid and over rated. . but hes still a good starting cb
by jack is better than asante on Apr 8, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
meh Sheldon averages 3.4 tackles a game and Zont averages 3 tackles a game. Sheldon average 54 tackles and 2 INTs a season and Zont 45 tackles and 4 INTs a season. Whos changing field position and games? I’ll give up 9 tackles a year for 2 INTs any day.
I agree with you I do think Sheldon is better then Asante as an all around Corner. Asante is not over paid or over rated and jumping routes is part of the job so saying it doesn’t help your argument.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
yes hes is
he is well over paid .. sheldons numbers are almost the same .. and sheldon often gets matched up agaisnt the better wrs .. and he is more shut down if asante made sheldon money hes worth it .. for example .. do we all agree that a guy like mikkell is a solid player .. not a superstar .. but if he made ed reed money hed be over paid .. noting agaisnt him .. asantes just a lil over paid
by jack is better than asante on Apr 8, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
you are making assumptions again
if Asante and Sheldon signed there contracts at the same point of their careers in the same year in the NFL then Asante would be over paid. But they didn’t so he is not.
If that’s the case Nate Clements is severely over paid … let’s not forget he is the reason Asante got as much as he did. You can’t blame the players because teams over pay.
The same reason why teams like the Cards and Browns are going to want ridiculous picks for Boldin or Edwards … because the Cowboys over paid for Williams … it is what it is.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
agreed
doesnt mean id pay that for boldin or edwards .. i agree williams was too much .. and clements is soo over paid! thats the problem .. nothing wrong with saying a good player is overpaid .. he can still be good and overpaid
by jack is better than asante on Apr 8, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
lets find out
because i dont see that .. i bet a lot of people are gonna say they want asante . and thats my problem lol asante vs asomougha .. who do you want ppl?
by jack is better than asante on Apr 8, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
maybe
maybe in 10 years .. asante is never gonna be a shut down corner .. he is what he is .. he jumps routes and has good closing speed on the ball .. hes a good starter .. not worth what hes making ..
by jack is better than asante on Apr 7, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
HE IS WHAT HE IS?!?!?!
He is a goddamn interception machine, that’s what he is.. damn. Where do you come up with this?
I agree Asomugha might be a better corner. but to me, it is all about the picks.
in my book he is worth every penny.
by Nils_eaglesfan on Apr 8, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
noo
not when you jump routes and are a liability in coverge and a horrible tackler .. hes good .. but not what he being paid good
by jack is better than asante on Apr 8, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Listen man
For years before Asante got here we were starved for turn overs ass soon as he got here not only was our Defense much better than it had been in a long time but we had many more turn overs than in recent years. Did you ever stop to think that maybe they want a guy that can jump routs at the right time opposite of a shut down corner so they will throw to the turn over guy cause the cover guy’s assignment is always locked down. Its a strategy
nooo
anyone can jump routes .. shut down corners are special .. ala asomouha
by jack is better than asante on Apr 9, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
If anyone can jump routes...
Why don’t they, if it would get them paid like a top 5 corner…
You’re way underestimating Asante’s skills, I used to think the same thing when he was in NE but watching him week in and out this year and talking to guys that played with him, he is a very smart football player and reads plays really well which is how he jumps routes…
sheldon
sheldons still the better cb and he is more shut down .. and gets matched up against better wrs .. they should really switch salarys .. than it would be appropriate
by jack is better than asante on Apr 10, 2009 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Sheldon is not matched up on better WRs...
Sheldon plays one side of the field and Asante the other, regardless of which WR it is…that has always been Jim Johnson’s scheme…Troy Vincent was always on the same side and Bobby Taylor the other…
The only way that Sheldon is covering better receivers is if better WRs line up on the left side of the formation…
ding ding ding … we have a winner.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
you guys and your silly facts
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
yea
and most of the time they line them up there because they like all of you think asante is better .. but hes not .. if i was a coodinator i wouldnt throw ar sheldon over asante
by jack is better than asante on Apr 10, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't worry
With all your bright opinions you’ll be a coordinator someday real soon.
by ajay on Apr 10, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
hire me
hey now .. my major is sports management .. hire me pats lol
by jack is better than asante on Apr 11, 2009 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Did you just say...
That basically all the coordinators in the league don’t know what they’re doing and are not as good at scouting talent than you?
Thats like saying Greg Lewis is just as good as TO, the coaches just didn’t know it, but if they threw him the ball as much as TO, he would put up better numbers…
jack.
learn to spell. just look at your post before you hit return. furthermore, some of your observations on this team are downright absurd. reggie brown for 8 to 10 touchdowns? hilarious. herremans nothing special? the guy was only one of the best lineman on our team last year. avant a career backup? that’s why mcnabb was throwing to him half the time last year down the stretch. i think you should spend more time listening to the people who know what they are talking about, and less time making statements based on your madden franchise.
some of the components of jacks madden philadelphia eagles
QB-brett favre
RB-brandon jacobs
RB2-optimus prime(he has to have a multipurpose back in there somewhere)
RB3-chris wells
WR1-terrell owens
WR2-terrell owens
QB2-mike vick
you forgot chad at wr 2 .. that team would kick ass .. jacobs would pound it .. TO and chad .. wow! and i dont play madden lol madden 09 was garbage .. i got glitched like 3 times and was like fuck this! hahaha and i dont care about spelling .. i dont proofread anyhting
by jack is better than asante on Apr 9, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
as much as he is annoying, i gotta admit i like to look forward to what trash jack posts ;). I sorta like this guy
knowshon... Knowshon... KNOWSHON!!!!
i'll give it to him....
he’s the only one here who can turn what would of been a thread of 30 comments into a thread of 188.
come on man lol
give me a break lol obviously i know his name .. i dont really feel like reading my post over .. i have to write enough papers for college .. therefore im sick of proof reading .. and i have no damn spell check
by jack is better than asante on Apr 10, 2009 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions
cole
i said cole did good .. but MJG was better and has more upside .. hes a monster and is so big .. celek is not half the talent of pettigrew .. pettigrew should go to the bills .. if he falls hes a steal .. he may be the most complete te to come out in the last 5 years .. im sure u would take celek over a guy like winslow too .. or olsen .. celek is a nice second te and deff belongs on the team . but a stud he is not .. he had one good game!
by jack is better than asante on Apr 7, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
That one good game
Is exactly one more good game than Jack has ever had. Yet you trumpet his skills. Makes zero sense.
bs
jack was not a 7th round back up te! he was first round talent and a stud in college .. what a joke .. jack was hurt and you diss him for that .. hes extremly talented .. the differnce is jack projects as a starting corner .. and celek is a second te
by jack is better than asante on Apr 7, 2009 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
first round is not a guarenteed hit. most of the better players on this team have come from rounds 3-5. i like jack too but its insane to call him a success before he even hits the field. especially seeing as he IS coming off a knee injury. you never know how those things will affect someone and the eagles did take a chance on selecting him, mind you it was a calculated risk with good potential
Anything higher then #20 is a reach for Pettigrew.
he had one good game!
So I must have made up his 6 reception 131 yard game against the Seahawks this year or his 3 rec 30 yard 1 TD game against the Cowboys at the end of the year, or his 6 rec 56 yard Wild Card game against the Vikings, or his TD against the Giants.
Yea the 10 reception 83 yard 2 TD game against the Cards was a great game but he has shown up in other games as well.
The fact of the matter is he was only targeted 38 times THE ENTIRE season you can’t put up big numbers when you are behind LJ Smith on the depth chart (and shouldn’t have been).
He will get his chance to be a starter this year and he will be a damn good one trust. At least I have NFL stats to base my opinion of Celek on you have nothing from Pettigrew. You think these guys who have never played in the NFL are better than guys who have and that is ridiculous.
Pettigrew never went over 100 yards in his college career and only ever had one 2 TD game.
Pettigrews College Stats:
112 receptions 1,450 yards 9 TDs in 4 YEARS
Celeks College Stats:
89 receptions 1,096 yards 14 TDs in 3 Years
so if we’re going by college was Pettigrew REALLY that much better then Celek? It’s rhetorical everyone knows the truth.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
by Whodie126 on Apr 7, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
pettigrew
pettigrew is the starter if hes drafted .. end of story
by jack is better than asante on Apr 7, 2009 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
dont you realize
that pettigrew is one of the most complete TEs to come along in years .. he has good hands .. runs routes .. isnt overly fast .. but is big .and strong .. and is a phenomenal blocker .. celek is backup material .. pettigrew is ranked as a top 20 prospect! hes a stud .. you wanna improve the running game so bad. . well pettigrew is like an extra tackle whos also a weapon in the passing game .. celek cant block anyone!!
by jack is better than asante on Apr 8, 2009 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Judging Pettigrew by receiving numbers is only part of the story. Just as many people want a RB with hands, Jack wants a TE who can block. Pettigrew is often regarded as a dominate blocker, maybe the best blocking TE in prospect in quite some time. Although he lacks top end speed, he does show the ability to make key catches underneath, and hs good hand.
And as for the Scheffler comparisons: He’s definitely effective in receiving game, and can get up the seam, but I’m pretty sure he’s never been their “starting TE” If the Eagles would draft Pettigrew, Celek, could provide a similar role.
exactly
thank your fredex some one gets it .. im not saying celek is useless.. im just saying hes a nice second TE and pettigrew is a clear cut starter in this league .. good job man .. you are dead on .. go fredex
by jack is better than asante on Apr 8, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree with Jack here. Who really wants to relive the Chicago Bears game? A complete TE is what we need, someone who can block as well as catch. Celek is definitely a #2 TE and for sets for recieving up the middle.
yes!
for once i have backup against you whoodie! better defend your boy celek lol because his nice playoff run doesnt make him anytthing more than a #2 te .. i want pettigrew!!
by jack is better than asante on Apr 8, 2009 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
bg. celek cant block anyone!!
This is very, very true. I can’t really interject anything on this one….being an Oklahoman I’d really enjoy watching the Grew play for us……but I’d like it even more if we didn’t go for him and waited a year to get Jermaine Gresham from OU! Sorry, pure homerism there.
Loooooook here brotha'.....who you jivein' with that Cosmic Debris!!!???
can't agree more on Gresham
the man is the same size as Pettigrew, but much faster and is a goddamn playmaker. If you’ve ever seen the guy play, you know what I’m talking about. Monster.
About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.
haha
a monster who had a nice playoffs? he wasnt anything special earlier .. and he cant block anyone .. pettigrew is the most complete TE in years and an immediete starter
by jack is better than asante on Apr 9, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
you really don’t even take the time to figure out what people are saying do you? if you bother to take a second, you’d realize that Hank was calling Gresham a monster.
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
by foos05 on Apr 9, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Hank is dead on.....
and jack makes my head hurt….jeez…..
Whoever ends up with Gresham will essentially get the next Mark Bavaro….big, mean, great hands, great blocker, play maker and I’ve seen Gresham drag at least 5-6 guys downfield with him before going down…..how many 49er’s did Bavaro drag in that 86’ game? Like 7, including Ronnie Lott? I think it’s a good comparison. But once again, this is coming from a Sooner Homer so….ya know, Crimson colored glasses and all….lol
Loooooook here brotha'.....who you jivein' with that Cosmic Debris!!!???
i agree
but im not waiting on him .. no guranteee we will end up with him anyways ..l say get pettigrew now and see how much his blocking skills improve us .. espically on 3rd and short .. run right behind him and the andrews .. guarenteed first down
by jack is better than asante on Apr 10, 2009 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I wish
You could do the opposite of rec-ing a post. Like the toolbar should say “Flag, Rec, Garbage” for garpage posts like this one.
dude
your a jack ass .. you all love mediocare players
by jack is better than asante on Apr 7, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah really
Dude your posts are nonsense. You hold opinions that are indefensible and defy logic. You’re sitting here trying to say that a 4th round player with 1st round talent is “better” than Asante Samuel. Seriously. Just stop for a moment and think about that. Your posts are horrible.
P.S.
Your = possessive
You’re = a contraction of “you are”
What you wanted to say was: “You’re a jackass” (it’s one word).
aww com'on dude!
it’s a blog! you can’t expect people to actually speak/spell their language correctly in an informal setting!
(sarcasm)
yea it is necessary
jack is more talented .. more physically gifted .. and asante wasnt even better than brown last year .. he just has the big name .. jacks gonna be a star
by jack is better than asante on Apr 8, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Not sure how gifted...
Jack is coming off knee surgery, how do you know he’ll fully recover athletically…
And as a Michigan fan, Jack did not do a great job of being your “shut down” corner…Manningham went for over 100 yds and 2 TD in his Soph and Junior years against Wisconsin…
NOO!
That is way too much logic for Jack to handle!!!
Don’t you see that all 32 franchises let Jack fall to the 4th due to the fact that he is the second comming of Neon Deion?
Makes perfect sense..
by Nils_eaglesfan on Apr 8, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
they
they didnt take him cuz he was hurt and out a year .. otherwise he would of been a 1st rounder .. we have the luxury to wait that year .. other teams have pressing needs
by jack is better than asante on Apr 8, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
i like
mario is good .. i wanted him .. fuckin giants stold him .. hes gonna be good
by jack is better than asante on Apr 9, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
that really doesn't answer my question
asomghua (however it is spelled) over in oakland shuts down the best in the NFL all year long. he is a shut down corner. If jack is supposed to be on par with that (as a superstar shutdown corner, in your eyes), you need to explain why he was unable to shut down one of the best in college football. shut down corners shut down anyone. i hope he pans out, but i want a real answer as to why he’s a shutdown corner when he apparently didn’t shut anything down against manningham. even if you do like mario, please explain why we should ignore these games.
i cant
jack is going to get better .. hes still raw .. but talented ..hes not asomugha yet. . but jim johnsons gonna make him into the next one
by jack is better than asante on Apr 10, 2009 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Desean Desean Desean
Desean Desean over Reggie every single day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEkXysmtrXs at 1:05 DeSean breaks Dawkins ankle check it
DeSEAN JACKSON THE ONE
reggie
reggie could be a good wr .. and his second year was better than deseans year last year .. so who knows .. reggie could not bounce back .. but my thoughts are hewill
by jack is better than asante on Apr 7, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
i actaully agree. Reggie could bounce back. I think we should give him a chance before we throw him away
knowshon... Knowshon... KNOWSHON!!!!
Im not throwing him away..
But Desean is better then him … and always will be..
DeSEAN JACKSON THE ONE
no
desean is good .. but a bit undersized .. he can be a good wr .. but he will never be a true number one .. reggie wont either .. so they are both about the same .. topping out as good second wrs
by jack is better than asante on Apr 7, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Steve Smith and Santana Moss
Both very undersized…. i would take a shot in the dark and say… they are both #1 s
DeSEAN JACKSON THE ONE
moss
moss is far from a number one receiver
by jack is better than asante on Apr 7, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
coles
in fact coles is better than moss .. moss has one good game than disapears
by jack is better than asante on Apr 7, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
coles is not better than moss
Since 2003 (when Santana won the starting job)
Laveraneus Coles: 92 Games; 461 receptions; 5593 yards; 31 TDs; 2 seasons 1000+ yds; 12.8 career avg/reception
Santana Moss: 91 Games; 398 receptions; 6068 yards; 39 TDs; 3 seasons 1000+ yards; 15.2 yd career avg/reception
The only stat that Coles has on Moss is receptions…okay, he catches more balls, but not for more yards or more TDs
"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs
coles
neither are true number ones tho . coles is a better overall reciever .. moss is a good deep threat .. neither are bad .. and both are better than our wrs .. curtis and brown .. but not number 1s
by jack is better than asante on Apr 9, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Moss
was the top receiving threat for the Skins the past 4 years and was the Jets leading receiver the 2 years before that … so that’s 6 years as the leading receiver on two different teams I’d give him number 1 status.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
noo way
desean was our leading receiver .. hes not a number 1. .here it comes .. all the desean posts .. but he just isnt .. hes a good player and a game changer .. but not that dominant number 1.. moss is not a number one .. hes soo inconsistant .. a true number one is a game changer .. TO Moss Plax .. ill give u steve smith .. chad johnson when he wants to play . andre johnson .. reggie wayne .. larry fitz .. those are number ones .. issac bruce is sfs best reciever but hes not a number one .. just because your the best on your team doesnt make you a true number one
by jack is better than asante on Apr 8, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
just because your the best on your team doesnt make you a true number one
Thanks captain obvious.. That pretty much sums up what Eagles fans have been discussing since 05
by Nils_eaglesfan on Apr 8, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
ok
well captain obvious how is moss a number one .. cuz hes not .. santana i mean
by jack is better than asante on Apr 8, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
the only… ONLY thing i can find that i agree with is that Winston was thrown to the wolves. I have to agree with Whodie. Have you ever watched a Eagles game?
knowshon... Knowshon... KNOWSHON!!!!
i havent
i havent missed an eagles game in 11 years .. i watch atleast 100 nfl games a year
by jack is better than asante on Apr 9, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Victor Abiamiri
If he gets healthy he is my favorite to start opposite Trent Cole. From what I have heard he is scary good when completely healthy and hopefully he got even better and can be our next big time pass rusher and give us bookends and DE for the next 5 or so years.
Lorenzo Booker!
Just kidding. I second the Victor Abiamiri vote. I think he is ready to have a break out year.
by Baron Dainer Von Tresvant on Apr 6, 2009 8:48 PM EDT reply actions
celek
is a nice second te .. and scheffler isnt all that either .. i still think we get b pett in the first
by jack is better than asante on Apr 7, 2009 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions
anuj and jack, I agree with both of you. But, in response to the question in the original post, I believe Celek will be the player to break out (I consider a season of 45-50 rec and 500+ yards and 4-5 TD’s breaking out for Celek). I compared him to Scheffler because he seems to be just that – a good route runner and good at finding soft spots in coverage, adequate speed, average to good playmaking ability, hands and YAC, and sub par blocking.
by captain nodar on Apr 7, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
oh
i def think celek will break out. He is a playmaker TE and i love that. Im just sayin he can become elite if he improves his blocking skills
knowshon... Knowshon... KNOWSHON!!!!
celek
dude enough with the celek .. the guy had one good game vs the cardinals
by jack is better than asante on Apr 7, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
where
where does this come from .. if not for that nfc championship game .. celek was just mediocare
by jack is better than asante on Apr 7, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I was kidding about the chad lewis thing..but
I do like Celek a lot and hope he does well plus i met him so i feel like i know him on some what of a personal level..haha
DeSEAN JACKSON THE ONE
So wait
It’s not okay to say Celek is going to be good, but somehow it’s okay to say Jack is better than Asante based on zero games.
That makes a lot of sense.
jack
i said hes gonna be better than asante .. and i still believe that .. talented jack is .. celek is not .. hes a nice second TE nothing more .. pettigrew to the eagles is being predicted for a reason
by jack is better than asante on Apr 8, 2009 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
can we put...
Jack Ikegwuonu at TE? Then all our problems will be solved!!!
About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.
talent doesn't always equal good play.
There are tons of examples of talented guys who don’t pan out. You can’t make an argument that someone is better than someone without actual proof of them doing it. I’m not trying to bash you but it isn’t a good argument. You could be right if Jack does do amazing and congrats to for supporting him and sticking with him. I can only judge a player on what they’ve done and are doing.
i agree
jack could be a bust ..your right .. he could get hurt .. you never know .. all i know is hes talented .. and his size speed make his potential a shut down corner in the nfl .. if he reaches it .. asante doesnt have that high a ceiling .. he is what he is .. a good corner ..over payed .. but good .. great ball skills and recovery speed .. jumps routes .. not great agaisnt the run
by jack is better than asante on Apr 8, 2009 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah I get you. You are so dead on about him against the run or tackling in general. He leads with his shoulder rather than wrapping up, something i detest. If Jack becomes a shutdown corner, someone like my man-crush Nnamdi Asomugha, I’d give you a medal for believing in him.
thanks bro
i too have a few man crushes . asomugha is clearly the premier corner in this league ..
by jack is better than asante on Apr 8, 2009 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah man
You probably already know the numbers but to educate those who have not experienced been exposed to him. Asomugha had only 26 charted pass attempts. That means over the course of the season, only 26 passes have attempted to a reciever he is covering or to his area. With all the stats broken down, that means over the course of the season, he was targeted only 1.7 times per game (WTF? i know lol) and had only gave up 9 completion (OMG?!) for 144 yards (46 of those came on one play where he misjudged an underthrown pass, I KNOW HOLY CRAP). Yeah, man crush is the appropriate term. I respect great play and he does play in the black hole but he is so respected that he automatically cuts the field in half.
not great against the run?
seriously dude, where were you when the Eagles played the Giants, or any other game. I have seen Asante come up from coverage and take out rb from their feet. Ive seen him take out Brandon Jacobs like that and Jacobs is not a small baby
knowshon... Knowshon... KNOWSHON!!!!
no way
you can argue all you want about asnate .. but you have no argument about him being good against the run
by jack is better than asante on Apr 9, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
there are worse corners against the run.
not that he’s a devastating tackler, but he is a willing tackler.
deangelo hall
zone coverage expert. serviceable in man to man.
watch him in the run game… laughable.
About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.
yes
but i prefer hall to asante .. hes better in coverage .. this man was money in atlanta .. than he goes to oakland to ruin his career .. fuckin oakland is the worst franchise in sports i swear. . how dare they cut gibril wilson
by jack is better than asante on Apr 10, 2009 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions
you do know DeAngelo Hall plays for the Redskins right?
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
yess
n if he never went to oakland he would still be an elite corner .. going their ruins your reputation .. but hey he got paid still
by jack is better than asante on Apr 10, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
now I’m confused … your boy Nnamdi Asomugha plays for the Raiders so it’s obviously possible to be a good corner on that team with a good reputation.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
he is stuck there
its not his fault they drafted him .. if you go there its your own dumbass fault .. he needs to get out tho ..
by jack is better than asante on Apr 11, 2009 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Not to jump in but
Your name actually says that Jack is better than Asante, not that “hes gonna be” better than Asante. Every time you post that you only say that he “will” be better than Asante but isn’t necessarily yet, you contradict yourself, because you simultaneously are posting that he already is better in the form of your name.
thats just my name
i like my name .. it can be what ever i want it to be .. my name doesnt mean anything .. i love jack hes awasome
by jack is better than asante on Apr 8, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
That's fair
All I’m sayin is that every time you complete a message, you are also simultaneously asserting that Jack already is better than Asante, Unless your name is a lie, in which case that would hurt your credibility, I think.
All in all I’m really just messing with you a bit though
Actually
You said, “Jack is BETTER than Asante”…there isn’t even an implied future form there which I think is what gets everybody so riled up. How can Jack already be better with 0 games…you can’t back off now and say that you have some gut-level feeling that Jack might potentially someday be better than asante…a lot of people wouldn’t argue that because it’s possible (won’t know till the dude steps on the field)
"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs
well
we only got a few months and then we will see!
by jack is better than asante on Apr 10, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
No we won't...
Jack will be the 4th CB this year most likely…are you implying he will take a starting spot away from Asante in a few months?
what about the game after atlanta when l.j. smith got blown up by milloy?
i seem to remember celek having a 100 yard game and everyone booing l.j. smith off the field anytime he got playing time thereafter.
lj smith
lj smith shouldnt even be in the nfl!! baltimores dumbass is still paying him hahahaha .. i would cheer for dorenbos at TE as long as its not LJ smith .. hes garbage
by jack is better than asante on Apr 9, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
+1 on Demps
I’m really looking forward to see how he plays if we turn him loose at FS full time. I have a lot of high hopes for him this year. I know he will not ‘replace’ Brian Dawkins, but maybe he can bring something to the table that we don’t see coming just yet. Interceptions? Passes defended? Incredibly quick blitzing?
About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.
AGREE 100%
Iv been saying this forever since i saw him at training camp Demps is a star in the making i cant wait to see him compete and win the starting role at FS MARK my words he will have at least 4 picks this season if not more
DeSEAN JACKSON THE ONE
i agree ..
demps is clearly the most talented saftey on this roster .. but hes young .. i see them all rotating .. mikkell isnt a superstar like people think .. hes a nice player .. and so is sean jones .. jones is a lil more athletic .. and jim johnson will find ways to use them all
by jack is better than asante on Apr 7, 2009 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Why don't you like Mikell?
Dude is a superstar. He’s been at a probowl level for the last 2 years, but has no name recognition. I know it’s hard to say, but he was the best safety on the field for the birds the last 2 years….but I do agree that Johnson will rotate. Sean Jones seems like a big hitting run-stopper, while (except that fall in the NFCCG) Demps should be a great cover-safety.
"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs
mikkell
hes not a superstar .. hes a good saftey and an adequete starter .. the guy in pitt .. u know .. u might recognize his hair .. hes a superstar .. or ed reed .. or my boy adrian wilson .. mikell is a nice lil player .. hes serviceable
by jack is better than asante on Apr 7, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Polamalu & Ed Reed are better than Mikell?
Thanks Captain Obvious.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
well
you said superstar .. those are the superstar safteys ..mikkell is not on their level.. so not a superstar
by jack is better than asante on Apr 8, 2009 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
well both Troy Polamalu and Ed Reed are..
FREE SAFETIES.
Quentin Mikken is a SS
Quintin Demps is a FS.
If we’re going to make fair comparisons here, shouldn’t we at least be talking about the same position? If we are comparing Mikkell to anybody, shouldn’t it be against somebody like Bernard Pollard or Bob Sanders?
About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.
wait, nvm, i messed up
Polamalu is a SS. sorry guys
About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.
so did you go out and crack open a few cold ones this weekend....
with your boy adrian wilson? was t.o. and larry johnson there too? i would say just in terms of last year mikell was every bit as good as you boy, adrian wilson. mikell regularly sees better competition in the nfc east then wilson sees over in the west.
nooo
are u kidding me .. adrian is one of the best young safteys in the game .. dont compare mikkell to him .. thats a joke
by jack is better than asante on Apr 9, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Adrian will be 30 yrs old this year...
He’s no spring chicken, older than Polamalu and Bob Sanders…but I do agree he is pretty damn good…
consider the level of competition.
wilson plays twice a year against….the seahawks, the rams, and the 49ers.
mikell plays twice a year against…the cowboys,the redskins, and the giants.
not to take anything away from wilson, i think the guy is a damn good player. but if you were to compare their numbers from this last year, taking into account their respective divisions….i think my point is valid. mikell is a stud. not the nice “lil” player you like to paint him as.
i think hes good
i like mikell .. mikell and demps will be good together .. but hes not in my top 5 safteys .. and not a true superstar .. just a good solid football player
by jack is better than asante on Apr 10, 2009 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions
yea
but hes not better than wilson or the kid from the skins ..not even mentioning the obvious studs .. reed troy p .. etc
by jack is better than asante on Apr 11, 2009 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions
no way!
wilson is a bonafide star .. not a chance
by jack is better than asante on Apr 11, 2009 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
why can't you just use stats to back things up?
if you’re right, the stats will back you up. if you’re wrong….well maybe that’s why you’re not using stats.
also…ed reed and troy p play in the afc…pro bowl competition for mikell is from the…nfc!
and great on returns, guy needs to be on the field more....not enough snaps to go around, till now?
Loooooook here brotha'.....who you jivein' with that Cosmic Debris!!!???
Demps I mean, and Mikell is going to be great for us for a while
Loooooook here brotha'.....who you jivein' with that Cosmic Debris!!!???
What do you consider a break-out season for Booker?
I think there is a 60% chance that Booker makes the team. I could see the Eagles drafting a running back in the first round and taking another running back in like the 4th or 5th round, which would force Booker to have to show something during the preseason. If Booker does make it, I wouldn’t be shocked if he rushed for 300 yards and had another 300 receiving.
by Baron Dainer Von Tresvant on Apr 7, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
That's breakout in my opinion
If he can basically get on the field, score a couple TDs over the course of the season, and demonstrate the ability to get good yards most of the times that he touches the ball, I would consider that a breakout. I don’t think he’ll be a franchise RB, but I think he could be a really versatile guy who, as you suggested, could put up 300 rushin and another couple hundred receiving. That’s pretty dynamic and very useful to have.
I don't consider ...
… Jackson, Bradley or Samuel breakout candidates. Those guys all already broke.
Abiamiri is a guy I would consider. I would love for it to be Justice (could you imagine how set we’d be if we even factored him into the OL discussion this year). Or Booker. Demps could be good, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Sean Jones got more time than he did, either.
How about Gaither winning his job back?
Avant getting to 50 catches/750 yards/5 TDs or something maybe?
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
i agree except
Jackson. while Bradley and Samuel are already broken, Jackson can break out. his season could be even better. this season?
knowshon... Knowshon... KNOWSHON!!!!
I don't see why a second-year player ...
… couldn’t logically improve on his rookie season, but also if he did what he did last year again, it wouldn’t be a horrible disappointment.
Maybe it’s just semantics … I think a dude who starts, is a threat to score, other teams have to game-plan for, has at least 3 highlights (and 2 lowlights) you can remember off the top of your head isn’t a “breakout” candidate.
D-Jax can definitely elevate his game though, I agree there. Would love to see him become the premier little WR in the game (sorry Steve Smith)
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
i definitely think avant can come up with those numbers.
and it would’nt surprise in the least to see gaither back in the line up this year.
gaither
why cant he play instead of gocong .. and then move gocong back to DE where he belongs .. he is only good at getting to the qb
by jack is better than asante on Apr 10, 2009 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions
i'm halfway inclined to agree with you on this one.
but gocong is a decent run stopper. would gaither be better? maybe. i wouldn’t mind seeing gocong get some snaps on the line. it would be a nice little experiment.
wasnt gocong
isnt he the all time ncaa leader in sacks .. he is only great at getting to the qb .. hes a DE .. its his natural postion .. he doesnt do anything great at lb .. you can deff upgrade there
by jack is better than asante on Apr 11, 2009 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions
noo
hes not all that great .. hes actually the weak link in our lb corps .. hes a DE playing there .. any of the lbs avalible in the late first are huge upgrades .. cushing luranitus mathews…
by jack is better than asante on Apr 11, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
many DEs thrive at LB
Gocong is one. That’s why Julius Peppers wants to go to a team with a 3-4 scheme so he can play LB.
knowshon... Knowshon... KNOWSHON!!!!
what
since when is he thriving and been anything more than mediocare?
by jack is better than asante on Apr 11, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Abiamiri will be really good this year and I think Avant is capable of having a 50 catch season.
If Demps starts I think he can do good things. Also I might take some heat for this but if he learns how to block(so he can get on the field) but I think Lorenzo Booker can possibly be more of a factor this year.
A lot of people ...
… have said that Booker, with a year in the Eagles system and an offseason of the offensive staff trying to figure out how to put him in position to make plays, that he could be useful this year. It’s not as much of a reach on BGN as it might be on some sites where they don’t look past the basics.
At the very least he should return kicks as they look to take some of that burden off Demps.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
Booker should not return kick offs
He was terrible at it during last year’s preseason. I agree that the Eagles should take that burden off of Demps if he becomes a full time starter as a safety, but I don’t think Booker is the answer in that position.
I do agree that I want to see what Booker can do after a year of learning the system and working on improving his blocking. I’m not sure what would be considered a break out season for Booker. I think 300 yards rushing and 300 yards receiving would be reasonable.
by Baron Dainer Von Tresvant on Apr 7, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Ed Reed
returned kickoffs even while he was a starter. I know its risky, but if the guy knows how to make people miss, then let him have the ball. Unless, of course, you’d rather bring back Reno Mahe or Greg Lewis or Bloom or J.R. Reed…
About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.
I agree that you can't judge CBs on INTs...
Look at Sheldon last year. Guy had his first pick in like 18 games or something like that but didn’t allow a TD against him until the NFC Championship game Vs. Larry Fitzgerald. I will take a year like that from Hanson hands down as opposed to a 4 INT year. This year I am really looking at Joe Mays. The man was all over the field during the preseason and I hope he can develop even more this year. I dont expect him to take a starting spot as we already are fielding a very good and very young LB core. But a 50 tackle year with a couple FFs and an INT would make me feel very secure as to our LB future. Having 5 guys that you can interchange and contribute on special teams would be awesome. I also see Demps being a ball hawk but I think people will give him some grief for not being the snot knocker Dawkins was. No one can replace Weapon X and I think no matter how good Demps does this year everyone will take his play with a grain of salt. Oh and one final note, I know he already played great last year but I think Mikell is a shoe in for his first Pro-Bowl spot this year. That man gets no credit but plays lights out when he is on the field.
by IgglesFanDeployd on Apr 7, 2009 3:13 AM EDT reply actions
How
is Mays going to get 50 tackles from the 5th LB/Special teamer spot?
I agree it would be nice to see something out of him this year, but I hope you just plucked that benchmark stat out of thin air.
I agree about Demps not being a hitter, but Sean Jones is one … so if he lights a couple dudes up and Demps is a non-liability in coverage, Birds fans — although we won’t forget BDawk — will be happy with our safties.
I like how you judged Sheldon’s season.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
agreed.
this is going to be mikells year. he was great last year and the sky is the limit for him in this system. demps could definitely haul in some picks, but the guy has never been known for his tackling and i don’t know that will change.
I’m not going to argue semantics of what exactly a breakout year is, but I will put up money that Stewart Bradley does big things this season.
"Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein." -Joe Theismann
No argument from me about Bradley.
I really think he’s going to be a stud next season.
by Baron Dainer Von Tresvant on Apr 7, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
He did big things last season ...
… did he not?
I think he’s past breaking out. Peter King named him his all-pro MLB.
I agree he’s not a household name.
Also, did I just use Peter King to prove a point?
(flags own post)
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
I agree he broke out last year
I’m just agreeing that he’ll continue to be a stud and will probably be even better in 2009
by Baron Dainer Von Tresvant on Apr 7, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he will have an even bigger, more productive year than last year. Really interested to see if he becomes a strong leader on top of it.
"Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein." -Joe Theismann
by southjersey89 on Apr 7, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
He's so good
because he had his start in Rugby, the original manly sport (after gladiatorial competition, of course)
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I feel bad for EZ55
He had a good topic here that got hijacked by a huge discussion about which player is better than which. If only we could answer the immortal question of who is better, Asante Samuel or Jack Ikegwuonu…alas, this perplexing question will be debated by men for time immemorial.
Sorry EZ.
yeah man… you really did post a good topic here and it got donkey punched rather quickly…
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
Agreed. It’s tough to not to respond the sidebar stuff, but this was a good thread that got taken over.
i think we (myself included) really need to start biting our tongues in certain instances. Throwing more gas on is just going to feed the fires.
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
This is the exact same thing that happened
with my Ocho Cinco post 9 days ago lol. Out of 193 comments maybe 30 was related to my post.
Taking Route 36 will bring you to Touchdown,PHI
well
“i love me some me” hahaha guess who said that
by jack is better than asante on Apr 10, 2009 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions
It's all good..
Thanks for the comments guys. All I wanted was some discussion and that obviously happened, so I can’t really complain here..donkey punches and all. I just appreciate you all reading the post and lending your opinions, whether off topic or not. I embrace different viewpoint’s and I don’t think things got too out of hand, so no worries here. It was very interesting, that’s for sure..you guys do a good job defending this team and the players, but also telling it like it is. You all posted some good responses and you schooled me on some stuff. Maybe it got a bit out of hand, but it had people talking football and I can always enjoy that. Thanks for checking this post out!
btw I’m picking Chris Clemons to have a breakout year with ~10 sacks and 1 choke slam
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
i'm picking mikell...
i think he’ll make the probowl this year and help give the eagles one of the strongest defenses in the league.
DeSean should be hoping for a breakout year to avoid a sophomore slump…Celek NEEDS to have a breakout year because he’s being given the reigns at tight end…of all of them, however, I say that Stewart Bradley emerges as the Eagles’ breakout player this year. He’s shown he can direct the defense and make plays…he won’t put up sexy numbers, but his solid all-around play will help the Eagles win a bunch of games.
jaws
JaQUA PARKER
monster on the other side of trent cole this year he should even better he has got better every year i think he lead the team in sacks this year . also i wanna throw a bone in for my boy chris gocong stewart bradley got all the love last year witch he deserved but gocong layed some some major wood all year and you didnt hear about him much but he handles his biz .
im sorry asante is a monster dont turn on him now assholes just lastyear the ame guys was saying he is the best thing walking. sheldon brown is a lockdown corner too so calm all that noise …. JACK GET ON THE FEILD FIRST THEM TALK TO ME HOLLA
my comp is dead / getting it fixed
my computer crashes and i miss getting in another good cat fight lol … ps is it me or is it annoying as hell when comments get replied to where only 5 words fit per line lol … break out player of 09 … depends what our roster contains come pre season but im going with djack just like i did last year …
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
Crabtree ! Crabtree ! Crabtree ! -NPK
and 36 punts
down inside the 10
MVP
About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.
Most Valuable Punter, yes?
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
lol muahahah
hey dont knock sav … he was the leading punter in the league going into the ravens game …
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
RIP Harry Kalas 1936-2009 -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Apr 15, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Aussie Aussie Aussie ! ! !
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
RIP Harry Kalas 1936-2009 -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Apr 15, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Whatever RB we draft
My guess is we package picks and move around but no later than the 2nd round will we draft an RB. Whoever this guy turns out to be is going to be the Forte or Slaton of 2009. Westbrook will split time when healthy and inevitably miss games due to injury. With the Andrews and now Weaver – and possibly a top O Line guy drafted – busting holes whoever we draft here is gonna get huge stats.
Booker and Eldra are going to battle for the 3rd spot, I’ll put my money on Eldra
ABIAMIRI
HAS 10 SACKS BEFORE THE PLAYOFFS…BET
by STRAIGHTOYOURFACE on Apr 12, 2009 1:28 PM EDT reply actions
D-jax will improve his total yards from scrimmage and his touchdown total to 9 by the playoffs, with one touchdown throw.
add 3 rushing tds
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
RIP Harry Kalas 1936-2009 -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Apr 15, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
and 10 sacks
and 3 FF and 5 passes defended and 8 interceptions
About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.
and one dropkick
"Now Sav Rocca played for the Magpies in Australia. I don't know if it's a bird or a pie or what it is." Ike Reese
by The Badassador on Apr 15, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
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