Eagles beat the Giants to Maclin
by JasonB on Apr 29, 2009 12:00 PM EDT
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I love reading these little backroom dealings from draft day. They really give you a great peek into all the wheeling and dealing that goes on. This particular deal worked out well for us and took a player from a division rival.
Before drafting North Carolina's Hakeem Nicks with their own pick at No. 29, the Giants had worked out the parameters of a trade with the Lions to move up to the 20th pick, according to someone briefed on the negotiations between the two teams.
The person, who requested anonymity because the Giants don't discuss war-room talks publicly, didn't divulge what was being offered to Detroit but said the trade was contingent on Missouri wide receiver Jeremy Maclin's being available for the Giants to select at that spot.
The plan was nixed when the Eagles, probably sensing the Lions were shopping their pick, jumped up two spots to No. 19 (by giving the Browns a sixth-round selection) to pick Maclin, whom they hadn't considered a possible target because they didn't expect him to fall that far. It's unclear if Philly knew its division rival was the team getting ready to pounce on Maclin.
Reports yesterday said that Giants had Maclin as the top rated WR on their board, even above Crabtree.
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I forget where it was written...
…maybe GCobb, but I think around 18 teams had Maclin ranked as the top receiver in this draft.
by ajay on Apr 29, 2009 12:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
gcobb and espn
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by yophillybro on Apr 29, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I read this earlier, I didn't post it because I mad enough post recently.
I wonder how Andy knew NY was trading w/ Detroit? I bet you NY tried to trade with Cleveland, but Cleveland didn’t want the 29 pick. So Cleveland calls Philly and offered the deal telling them that NY was trying to trade up. That was all Andy needed to here to pull the Trigger.
Cleveland knew they wanted Mack, and adding another pick while getting the guy the wanted was OK by them.
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by yophillybro on Apr 29, 2009 12:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
I absolutely think that’s what happened. I also believe this report, because there was no reason to think that Detroit was going to pick a WR and so no reason for the Eagles to trade up 2 spots unless they were pretty sure that SOMEONE was also trying to snag him.
Given the very large number of low picks the Eagles had this year, to them a 6th rounder was basically nothing, and even if it was a calculated risk it was a very savvy move to trade up to make sure.
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by NJBammer on Apr 29, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thank you cleveland
or…. I think the Birds were the table behind the Lions in the theatre, so they probably knew if something was going on if the lions called the table to tell them to announce the trade and must have picked up on something going on, so they pounced
by sports00fan00 on Apr 29, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t be surprised to hear that the Lions called the Eagles and told them that New York wanted to make a deal to see if the Eagles would top the deal. Instead of doing that, the Eagles just jumped past them and did a deal with Cleveland.
I’m sure that one way or the other they got wind of a possible deal.
by JasonB on Apr 29, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
love it
any time you can get a handle on what another team is doing, especially a division rival, is great.
and now that it’s all coming out in the wash, to be able to take maclin right out of NY’s hands, is satisfying to the point of elation.
i def. believe that a lot of teams had this guy ranked #1 for WR’s in the draft. he’s gifted and we got a gem for the 2nd half of the 1st round… lets hope he can impact our squad immediately…
by PHIGHTINPHILS on Apr 29, 2009 12:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Browns...
How stupid are the Browns? They trade back from 17 to 19 and only get an extra 6th round pick, and then trade back to 19 and AGAIN only get a 6th round pick? Anyway, thanks Mangini!
by Bye, Dawk :( on Apr 29, 2009 1:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
when your desperate to move back that is a pretty good pick up. Everyone was saying it wouldn’t take alot to move into the top 10 this year, if the Eagles had offered what they gave up for Peters I think they could have been there for Eugene Monroe at 8.
by Clyde Simmons on Apr 29, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
or the person they wanted was gone or still there
and they didn’t think anyone would take him, they did take a center, plus after moving back they could give him less money.
by sports00fan00 on Apr 29, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree the Browns are idiotic. They started out with the 5th pick in the draft and kept trading back to the top of the first round, only to take a Center. Its not that trading down that was stupid, but you have to think that a team that was picking 5th in the draft had more pressing needs than center.
by njh3293 on Apr 29, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This isn't as good as when we booted them out of the playoffs
But it will do. Nice.
by MRPH on Apr 29, 2009 1:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Over on the ESPN boards a lot of our rivals are saying that Maclin is going to be a bust and Giants fans are saying that both Nicks and Barden will be better I wonder what they would be saying if they did choose Maclin.
Also teams were calling the Eagles about moving up to 21 and they thought it was about Maclin so that is why they traded up to 19.
by The Legend on Apr 29, 2009 1:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Of course they’d be saying the opposite… They’re homers.
by JasonB on Apr 29, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
where did you get that?
Also teams were calling the Eagles about moving up to 21 and they thought it was about Maclin so that is why they traded up to 19.
by bsencore on Apr 29, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hello there, Irony!
I was SHOCKED when the Birds picked Maclin. That’s exactly who I wanted but historically I never get what I want when the Eagles pick. This makes so much more sense now.
by michellemtsu on Apr 29, 2009 3:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This won’t be the last time the Eagles beat the Giants this year
by eaglesinmd on Apr 29, 2009 7:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
whos gonna cover that 6’6 target in the red zone?
by 85gtstang on Apr 29, 2009 7:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
As much as I don’t want to support a BBV troll, I have to agree… That 6’6" target is going to be tough to defend if a fade goes his way. I’m not sure how much press coverage can help there, unless a blitzer comes unblocked.
I’m sure JJ is working his magic right now though- he’ll figure something out. I would have loved to have the Utah DB Smith, but I can’t argue with the Shady pick.
.K
by KGJ on Apr 29, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If everything works out for them, then there might be a problem.
However height does not equal talent or production, and he was a 4th round prospect for a reason. Tall WRs like Mike Williams and James Hardy didn’t exactly take the league by storm.
by FredEx on Apr 29, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pencil the G'nats in for the SB
they got a 6’6 receiver…lol. He may be good, but there’s a reason why he was a 3rd round pick.
by Screen Name 20 on May 1, 2009 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s got size and he’s a decent receiver right now but he played in the Great West conference. I want to see how he does against some real talent I’m not saying he is going to be the next TO or the next Charles Rodgers but let’s wait until he actually steps on the field against some pros before we worry about who is going to cover him.
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on May 1, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Harold was 6'8"
and talented, in an era when players were somewhat smaller. He was terrific but he didn’t score every TD for them. A lot of other factors are involved including pass blocking, QB accuracy, jams at the line (can Barden get a clean release? There isn’t much time down in the RZ) etc.
by since1961 on Apr 29, 2009 10:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Barden has talent, but....
The knock on him is two things. One, he has inconsistent hands and only average speed. Plus he didn’t face anything close to top caliber competition at Cal Poly, nor did he play in an offense that was anything close to a pro style attack. While I think the kid has potential to be a solid pro, its not going to be this year.
by captainmike011 on May 2, 2009 2:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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