The 2009 Roster, Post Draft
by Andrew B on Apr 26, 2009 10:34 PM EDT
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Ignoring the likely camp fodder ... 62 players the Eagles have drafted, traded for, or spent significant amounts on in Free Agency ...
QB (3) - McNabb, Kolb, Feeley
RB (3) - Westbrook, Booker, McCoy
FB (2) - Eckel, Weaver
TE (3) - Celek, Schobel, Ingram
WR (7) - Jackson, Curtis, Brown, Avant, Baskett, Maclin, Gibson
T (5) - Andrews, Peters, Dunlap, Justice, Tupou
G (6) - Herremanns, Andrews, Jean-Gilles, McGlynn, Gibson, Fanaika
C (2) - Jackson, Cole
ST (3) - Akers, Rocca, Dorenbos
DT (4) - Patterson, Bunkley, Laws, Klecko
DE (6) - Cole, Thomas, Howard, Smith, Clemmons, Abiamiri
LB (8) - Gocong, Bradley, Jordan, Gaithers, Mays, Daniels, White, Fouko
S (4) - Mikell, Demps, Jones, Baker
CB (6) - Brown, Samuel, Hanson, Hobbs, Ikegwuono, Harris
Nine decent players aren't making this team. Competition for roster is obviously at WR (-1 or 2), CB (-1 or 2), G/T (-3 or 4), LB (-1 or 2), and maybe DE and FB (0 or -1). Everybody else is pretty much set unless they slip up and let a camp body past them on the depth chart.
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Wow, they'll be battling at Lehigh...
Here are my cuts…
- Kyle Eckel
- Tank Daniels
- Jack Ikegwuonu
- Reggie Brown
- Winston Justice
- Paul Fanaika
- Moise Fouku
- Brandon Gibson
- Mike Gibson
by Bye, Dawk :( on Apr 26, 2009 10:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hahaha
I can see where this is gonna head once jack is better than asante sees your list.
"I want to maintain my flexibility."
-Andy Reid
by BroadStBullies on Apr 26, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha...
That’s kind of why I have him there.
I’m not going to pretend that I’ve watched a ton of Wisconsin games and know Ikegwuonu inside and out, but for the Eagles to trade for Ellis Hobbs and draft Macho Harris, I gotta question how comfortable they are with him… and I’m not so sure that bringing in these extra corners is 100% related to Sheldon Brown.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Apr 26, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hobbs
hes only herre to return kicks! macho better be a saftey or his ass is cut!
by jack is better than asante on Apr 26, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no chance hobbs is here only to return kicks. maclin is all over that this yr like djax was last yr…..he’ll work his way in as the season goes on….so i highly doubt we just traded 2 5’s for a returner/
by GreenInBaltimore on Apr 26, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even if they make Macho a safety, Ikegwuonu isn’t necessarily safe.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Apr 26, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes he is
they didnt draft him .. and rehab him a whole year to cut him
by jack is better than asante on Apr 26, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They do if he isn’t better than the other corners.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Apr 26, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bs
1st round talent or ellis hobbs .. hobbs makes the team .. so does jack .. if they dont deal sheldon they will keep all 5 .. baker will get cut
by jack is better than asante on Apr 26, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nothing makes a team
like a rookie on IR
"I want to maintain my flexibility."
-Andy Reid
by BroadStBullies on Apr 26, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
First round talent...
2 years ago… before a bad junior season, before he shredded his knee, before he stole an xbox, before… oh forget it… I just don’t have the patience.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Apr 26, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
fuck that
hes a poor black guy from wisconson .. wtf is there to do in wisconson? exactly .. he needed that xbox .. he is the man .. he is a great athlete and big for a corner
by jack is better than asante on Apr 26, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
brilliant
"I want to maintain my flexibility."
-Andy Reid
by BroadStBullies on Apr 26, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
condoning stealing because he lives in wisconson?
jesus christ man
"You always hear about ballplayers buying numbers from other players for five figures. When this .300 lifetime hitter was in Philly, he traded his number to Mitch Williams for two cases of beer." - Stuff Magazine on John Kruk
by BadCo'09 on Apr 26, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
next
people will be photoshoping a pic of him stealing a car .. probably a navigator .. hes first round talent .. we got him cheap .. and he will develop into a starter eventually .. sheldons on his way out .. hanson is a nice corner but not special .. hobbs is a nickle player with return skills .. macho is a saftey .. not fast enough to be a corner
by jack is better than asante on Apr 26, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I gotta think this guy is f-ing with us. If so, I’m impressed.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Apr 26, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no im not
i dont get how you cut a guy and replace him with a slow corner macho and a mediocare nickle back hobbs
by jack is better than asante on Apr 26, 2009 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
macho will prob be a safety
but he was a great pick, watching him for the past 3 years here at VT i can say that without a doubt
"You always hear about ballplayers buying numbers from other players for five figures. When this .300 lifetime hitter was in Philly, he traded his number to Mitch Williams for two cases of beer." - Stuff Magazine on John Kruk
by BadCo'09 on Apr 26, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
//cobb'd
mediocare
"I want to maintain my flexibility."
-Andy Reid
by BroadStBullies on Apr 26, 2009 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol nice ... glad im not the only one keeping that alive
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
RIP Harry Kalas 1936-2009 -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Apr 27, 2009 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly guys….. I really really really really am starting the think Jack is better…… IS jack hahaha i mean it would explain a lot wouldnt it…. I bet if you ask JAck ikewg who his best from on the team is he would prob say Reggie Brown.. If this is true Jack is better then asante is DEF …. Jack Ikewg!! I have finally figured out the mystery
DeSEAN JACKSON THE 10NE
by TheILLadeph on Apr 27, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
interesting point...
"You always hear about ballplayers buying numbers from other players for five figures. When this .300 lifetime hitter was in Philly, he traded his number to Mitch Williams for two cases of beer." - Stuff Magazine on John Kruk
by BadCo'09 on Apr 27, 2009 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you obviously havnt been around for troll blue
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
RIP Harry Kalas 1936-2009 -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Apr 27, 2009 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah right
like some kind of idiot savant
"I want to maintain my flexibility."
-Andy Reid
by BroadStBullies on Apr 26, 2009 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am not a fan of bashing fellow fans or other people in general. He is entitled to his own opinion. Regardless of it’s the popular pick or not, it isn’t necessary to bash him.
by soman319 on Apr 26, 2009 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it’s okay son. haha. nah i get it when people firmly believe in something. It is hard to change a belief since the more force in trying to change it basically causes the person to hold tighter to it.
by soman319 on Apr 26, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
were not bashing
were trying to understand his point of view, but with no argument or facts its impossible
like a 3 yr old saying ‘because’ after every question he/she is asked
"You always hear about ballplayers buying numbers from other players for five figures. When this .300 lifetime hitter was in Philly, he traded his number to Mitch Williams for two cases of beer." - Stuff Magazine on John Kruk
by BadCo'09 on Apr 26, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
+111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
"I want to maintain my flexibility."
-Andy Reid
by BroadStBullies on Apr 26, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
reccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
RIP Harry Kalas 1936-2009 -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Apr 27, 2009 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're right.
And it isn’t necessary that you’re bashing at all. It was just a general statement.
by soman319 on Apr 26, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why
why do i need stats to show you that macho is too slow to play corner .. hobbs has been nothing but medicare .. u would know this if you seen hobbs play .. hanson is decent .. but not a starter .. over paid .. jack is going to replace sheldon eventually .. i think sheldon plays this year and then gets traded
by jack is better than asante on Apr 26, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why indeed
who are we to question his evaluations of players futures
"I want to maintain my flexibility."
-Andy Reid
by BroadStBullies on Apr 26, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if he really has that hat, ill concede right now lol
"You always hear about ballplayers buying numbers from other players for five figures. When this .300 lifetime hitter was in Philly, he traded his number to Mitch Williams for two cases of beer." - Stuff Magazine on John Kruk
by BadCo'09 on Apr 26, 2009 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
you need stats if someone says explain or support
no one here asked for stats bout macho being too slow because he is, thats why he played a hybrid safety/corner at tech, and excelled at it
i agree sheldon plays one more year and gets traded, like lito, but seriously, back up what you say and people might actually start to take u seriously
"You always hear about ballplayers buying numbers from other players for five figures. When this .300 lifetime hitter was in Philly, he traded his number to Mitch Williams for two cases of beer." - Stuff Magazine on John Kruk
by BadCo'09 on Apr 26, 2009 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
again jack.
Performance is key. You can make a case for Hobbs and Hanson since we have seen them play, etc. But Jack has never played a down in the NFL. Much like everyone drafted today and yesterday, all we have is college highlights and every type of “stats” possible for each player. Top 10 talent does not necessarily equal success. I agree Macho doesn’t fit a corner mold. Hobbs did a decent job at NE and he was at his best when he played with Asante. I agree, not better than Sheldon but let’s give him a chance and see where he goes. I agree with you that I highly doubt we’d cut Jack without seeing him in action after investing in him.
by soman319 on Apr 26, 2009 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
//cobb'd X2
medicare
"I want to maintain my flexibility."
-Andy Reid
by BroadStBullies on Apr 26, 2009 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why do you need stats?
so you don’t get embarassed like you did earlier today when you said….
fuck casey
hes slow .. we dont need no more fuckin celeks!! jesus .. ingram was the most athletic te in this draft .. we stole him .. i wanted him in round 3 .. he lasted another 50 picks! what a draft .. the last pick kinda pissed me off with duke robinson sitting there. . but owell
to which someone pointed out to you that…
Casey’s slow?
I like the pick Jack, but you need to check your facts. Casey’s times in the 40 yard dash and the 20 yard shuffle were better than Ingram’s. He also did 28 bench presses to Ingram’s 21.
then you just discredited the pure fact that casey was faster in every single way at the combine than ingram. sorry, but you can’t just say “that doesn’t matter because i don’t think it does”. that doesn’t make for a good argument….that’s why no one is listening to you right now. instead of arguing with facts, you’re saying “i’m right because i am, you’re wrong because the stats you show don’t matter”.
by eagleyosh on Apr 27, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well actually everyone is listening to him haha… I mean when you really like a guy you really like a guy but in jack is better case… Some of the things he says are just laughable…. Ill admit when we drafted Desean and Demps i didnt care what anyone said i knew they were gonna be stars…oh shit i was right… yet to be seen with Demps but .. I could argue with anyone he will be our starter and be a solid one at that and he hasnt played in the starting role…but thats how much i like him .. soooo from that standpoint i can see why jack is like that but most of the things he says are not valid
DeSEAN JACKSON THE 10NE
by TheILLadeph on Apr 27, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i could see why you'd argue for one player
relentlessly, and not let anyone say you’re wrong just because that’s what you believe. But he doesn’t offer any sort of backup for anything he says ever, and he makes claims about everything. at some point, you have to provide backup.
For example…I’m sure Darwin really believed he was right about evolution, but no one else did. To combat this, he didn’t say “well, you’re wrong, I’m right. This is definitely what happened, how could you say anything else?” No…he provided data that lead to his conclusion, and now it’s taught in schools.
Other more recent examples…who the hell would believe that the earth is getting warmer because we burn gas? No one. So the scientists who really believed that didn’t go, “no, the earth is warming. you’ve got to be kidding if you don’t think it is. it’s common sense”. They showed evidence supporting their claim.
Point is, say whatever you want. But if you’re gonna say it, back it up at some point, and someone will believe you. I can understand believing something just because it’s what you believe, and some things don’t require an explanation, but I would appreciate it if he actually took some time to say why he thinks what he does besides repeating his opinion over and over. if he did, at some point I might actually change my mind about something. Instead, I’ll provide evidence for my point, he’ll call me an idiot, and then nothing will change.
by eagleyosh on Apr 27, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well yeah ...
… Jackassante sucks at arguing.
But he’s an All-Pro at stoking the fires and getting the conversation going.
And we’ve both seen enough to know that he just wants to be heard. I don’t think it matters to him if his point is well fleshed-out or accepted or logical or liked. He doesn’t seem care about being respected, as long as people appear to be listening.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 27, 2009 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
which is sad
real sad
"You always hear about ballplayers buying numbers from other players for five figures. When this .300 lifetime hitter was in Philly, he traded his number to Mitch Williams for two cases of beer." - Stuff Magazine on John Kruk
by BadCo'09 on Apr 27, 2009 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You ever notice
he disagrees just to disagree sometimes?
Here I am talking about him. Feeding the monster. Something I was avoiding doing so well.
I actually agree with some of jack’s opinions, like his take on Sheldon vs. Hobbs. He just has trouble distinguishing his opinions from facts, and his presentation of opinionfacts has not endeared him to the board public.
(offers monster choice of steak or chicken)
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 27, 2009 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yes i do
but i got mixed feelings about that b/c sometimes playing devil’s advocate can expand everyone’s knowledge and understanding of a subject, therefore having everyone benefit, but on the other hand, we have threads that are filled with posts just tearing him to pieces over and over again like nothing has changed and no one learned anything
"You always hear about ballplayers buying numbers from other players for five figures. When this .300 lifetime hitter was in Philly, he traded his number to Mitch Williams for two cases of beer." - Stuff Magazine on John Kruk
by BadCo'09 on Apr 27, 2009 4:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was trying to ignore him too
i figured if we ignored him, he would go away. but not so much
"I want to maintain my flexibility."
-Andy Reid
by BroadStBullies on Apr 27, 2009 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dont
i dont disagree for the sake of arguing .. i agree on somethings. . but seriously i dont agree with 90 percent of the things you gusy say .. sheldon brown for tony sceffler? thats a joke ..
by jack is better than asante on Apr 27, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Got It!
GW Bush said the jury was still out on evolution and global warming therefore ipso facto JISBTA is GW Bush!
"I want to maintain my flexibility."
-Andy Reid
by BroadStBullies on Apr 27, 2009 7:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
jibta *
cobb’d
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
RIP Harry Kalas 1936-2009 -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Apr 27, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
word
"I want to maintain my flexibility."
-Andy Reid
by BroadStBullies on Apr 27, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
is he allowed to steal the xbox because he's from wisconsin....
or because he is a great athlete and big for a corner. is it okay for him to snort powder with his buddies because it’s boring up north?
by snowhill82 on Apr 27, 2009 4:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think youd consider snorting candy
if you lived in Wisconsin … im not ruling out i might if my life sucked lol “assuming all life sucks in Wisconsin lol”
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
RIP Harry Kalas 1936-2009 -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Apr 27, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey
that shit was photoshoped .. i could care less if he stole an xbox .. first of all xbox is hands down better than playstation .. so it shows me hes smart .. hes fast .. cuz he had to run away from the cops .. and its in the past .. if hes stealing ints and returning for 6 thats all that matters .. hes a cromartie like talent
by jack is better than asante on Apr 27, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
jack.
i don’t think the brand he stole has anything to do with his intelligence. if anything, anyone headed to nfl shouldn’t be involved in petty theft. it’s going to be great when they cut the guy. i guess you’ll have to change you name to “jack is better than a welfare check”
by snowhill82 on Apr 27, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bs
0 percent chance he gets cut
by jack is better than asante on Apr 28, 2009 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i am actually having trouble watching this guys head explode repeatedly.
by GreenInBaltimore on Apr 26, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
Was thinking the same thing. It’s a little disturbing.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Apr 26, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it is a bit disturbing
but its like a train wreck
"I want to maintain my flexibility."
-Andy Reid
by BroadStBullies on Apr 26, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
DeSEAN JACKSON THE 10NE
by TheILLadeph on Apr 26, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wtf
are u kidding me .. you cut jack .. brown and justice still have value .. ur list blows! jack is better than fuckin ellis hobbs .. thats a joke hobbs is only here to return kicks and insurance incase sheldon holds out
by jack is better than asante on Apr 26, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and
you have klecko and baker on ur team .. they are both trash
by jack is better than asante on Apr 26, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
do you know who you are talking to!
he doesn’t support anything ever. he will just tell you who is better than who. then yell at you if you disagree with him
"I want to maintain my flexibility."
-Andy Reid
by BroadStBullies on Apr 26, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well everytime i try to evaluate his screen name, i cant find a single stat line where Jack Beats Asante…..
Actually i did find one….Knee surgeries!
by GreenInBaltimore on Apr 26, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
hahaha
"I want to maintain my flexibility."
-Andy Reid
by BroadStBullies on Apr 26, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So they’ll go into the season with only 3 DT’s? Is that what you’re saying?
by Bye, Dawk :( on Apr 26, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
howard and abiamiri both got ample time at DT last year
also, it’s not exactly hard to find a fill in DT, nor is it hard to keep a pair of them on the practice squad.
3 DTs won’t be an issue, though i’d still bet klecko would make the roster.
brian mccann: derek lowe's got the best slider i've ever seen
john smoltz: yeah? and josh bard's the best catcher i've ever thrown to.
by variablesdont on Apr 26, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Abiamiri/Howard
…only on passing downs.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Apr 26, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
klecko
he wont make the team .. howard is like a fourth d tackle
by jack is better than asante on Apr 26, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No chance ...
… they go 3 DTs, variables.
Howard’s ability to play there definitely gives them some flexibility, but going with three serious DTs on a roster … that’s a risk like building a roster without a fullback. One injury can make you seriously regret it.
Anyway, it should be a fun bunch of battles to watch. I think they keep 5 DEs instead of 6 before they keep just 3 DTs instead of 4 … or maybe 4 of each plus Howard.
I guess this is the stuff we’ll have to talk about all offseason, so lets not blow it on the first night.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 26, 2009 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but howard also
cant play fullback
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
RIP Harry Kalas 1936-2009 -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Apr 27, 2009 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i would too .. simply because if we lose eckle
we free a spot and klecko and be situational on both sides of the ball … i would love to see eckle come through but im no so sure its gonna happen :(
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
RIP Harry Kalas 1936-2009 -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Apr 27, 2009 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would you change your name if they cut him?
by Bye, Dawk :( on Apr 26, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol…he’d go follow whatever arena team picked him up and stalk him through there. HAha…
I am kidding…i dont want the guy to fail, but i wouldnt mind a certain someones “factual opinions” disappearing.
by GreenInBaltimore on Apr 26, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dont want the guy to fail, but i wouldnt mind a certain someones "factual opinions" disappearing.
Yup.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Apr 26, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s better than Ellis Hobbs? Based on what exactly?
by Bye, Dawk :( on Apr 26, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nonsense
the same magical reasoning that tells him jack is better than asante
"I want to maintain my flexibility."
-Andy Reid
by BroadStBullies on Apr 26, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hobbs
hobbs is a back up he only played cuz ne secondary was garbage .. plax burned him for the winning td in superbowl .. ne got corners finally and got rid of him .. he will return kicks .. maclin returns punts .. and he has 0 chance of starting over hanson .. if brown is dealt
by jack is better than asante on Apr 26, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plax has burnt his share of Eagles receivers too.
You’re basing your entire opinion of him on ONE play. That’s just plain stupid.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Apr 26, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually
hes been nothing but mediocare his whole career .. i say hes worht getting as a return man and a fourth corner .. but hes not good
by jack is better than asante on Apr 26, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
as usual based on nothing
other than his opinion
"I want to maintain my flexibility."
-Andy Reid
by BroadStBullies on Apr 26, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
who needs fact
when you are a non-practicing NFL general manager?
"You always hear about ballplayers buying numbers from other players for five figures. When this .300 lifetime hitter was in Philly, he traded his number to Mitch Williams for two cases of beer." - Stuff Magazine on John Kruk
by BadCo'09 on Apr 26, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
noo
ive watched enough pats games to know hobbs was medicore .. if your talkin a sheldon brown to hobbs .. thats a huge drop off .. defense wont be ranked third anymore
by jack is better than asante on Apr 26, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why would we trade two 5th rounders
for a guy to just return kicks?
especially when we have like 5 people that can do that now?
"You always hear about ballplayers buying numbers from other players for five figures. When this .300 lifetime hitter was in Philly, he traded his number to Mitch Williams for two cases of beer." - Stuff Magazine on John Kruk
by BadCo'09 on Apr 26, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he is a solid
nickle corner .. hes not a starter .. and those picks were useless .. other wise we would draft people there with no chance of making the team . we couldnt draft 11 people!
by jack is better than asante on Apr 26, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nickel corner.
you spell it the same as the 5 cent coin, jack. nickel. nick-el.
by snowhill82 on Apr 27, 2009 4:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cobb'd
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
RIP Harry Kalas 1936-2009 -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Apr 27, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dont care!
please stop correcting my spelling .. i type fast and then hit post .. i dont care about spelling
by jack is better than asante on Apr 27, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously
they don’t care what you think and are going to keep correcting you.
To quote you, they “don’t take the high road.”
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 27, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
observant we are ?
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
RIP Harry Kalas 1936-2009 -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Apr 27, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yoda
hes pretty bad ass but mace windu is the most bad ass jedi by far .. hes black and has a purple light saber .. winner
by jack is better than asante on Apr 28, 2009 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The other ones
are all vital to the team in one way or another.
Hobbs, if he was to be the 4th CB, would be the primary KOR. And he’s a weapon back there, he took three to the house last year, didn’t he? Maybe that’s a function of disciplined blocking, but I suspect he has something to do with it
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 26, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea from the draft alone ... lol ...
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
RIP Harry Kalas 1936-2009 -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Apr 27, 2009 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather play Sheldon
than Hobbs at CB, but the Patriots were 18-1 with Hobbs starting, so I think a talented team can win with him. He’s not exactly a sieve.
And honestly, if our boy Samuel clutches that INT, Hobbs never gets beat for the GW TD, and everyone in Pats land has happy thoughts about awesome Ellis Hobbs.
I love him for KOR first, FWIW.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 26, 2009 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my boy?
i hate samuel lol
by jack is better than asante on Apr 26, 2009 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i thought u said he was good just overpaid?
"You always hear about ballplayers buying numbers from other players for five figures. When this .300 lifetime hitter was in Philly, he traded his number to Mitch Williams for two cases of beer." - Stuff Magazine on John Kruk
by BadCo'09 on Apr 26, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cricket cricket ...
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
RIP Harry Kalas 1936-2009 -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Apr 27, 2009 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thank you for noticing
that there was no response
i must have checked that reply 10 times waiting for some bs to come but he took the high road and ignored it
"You always hear about ballplayers buying numbers from other players for five figures. When this .300 lifetime hitter was in Philly, he traded his number to Mitch Williams for two cases of beer." - Stuff Magazine on John Kruk
by BadCo'09 on Apr 27, 2009 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol haha no doubt
i mean dont get me wrong i was on my high horse and still am about desean before he played in the nfl but at least my horse is riding tall … but if i was in his shoes, a college player i love that i hope the best for in the nfl and believe is better than others i would probably be in the same position if deseans season was bad or was coming off a college injury as well … so i dont blame him but i agree completely i could of recalled a few situations like this … digging a grave and then no valid response … also ( “JIBTA” i dub his new name ) tends to not find factual evidence to support his case which hurts his image and argument … but dont get me wrong im sure he could probably find some college stats to compare against hobbs persay or someone else … its not hard to find a good side in everyone and i for one think jack will be an good cb not amazing but good … and i cant retract my statement (which i would love to replace with amazing cb) until the kid can get some pads on and prove it … Asante is proven so right now and one of the best in the league with stats to back it … jack is nothing until he gets out there and makes some plays so i just chuckle inside every time i hear asante isn’t better … i like to use what i call the “madden factor” … go pop in madden and see the overall of the two and that should be pretty dam close if not off in the attributes range … and that should deaden whos better at this point … i would love for this to have more essence 2 years down the line and comparing jacks production …
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
RIP Harry Kalas 1936-2009 -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Apr 27, 2009 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i hope he will be great too
cant wait till training camp to see what he has
hell id even take all the shit JIBTA would say if Jack does become and elite CB (well as long as thats with the Eagles)
if only JIBTA would put some of his passion into research structuring an argument he would be a hell of a BGN member
"You always hear about ballplayers buying numbers from other players for five figures. When this .300 lifetime hitter was in Philly, he traded his number to Mitch Williams for two cases of beer." - Stuff Magazine on John Kruk
by BadCo'09 on Apr 27, 2009 4:21 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
fo sho
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
RIP Harry Kalas 1936-2009 -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Apr 27, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
i dont take the high road .. i had school .. sorry i cant be on here 24 7 .. fuck asante .. i hate him
by jack is better than asante on Apr 27, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he is
i hate asante! i think hes good .. but over paid .. hes not a top 10 corner .. but hes deff good enough to start on most teams
by jack is better than asante on Apr 27, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well you gotta think.
Players excell when they are in the right system. Who is to say that Hobbs won’t?
Even though I agree that Hall is overrated, he played absolutely terrible in Oakland more because he did not fit with the defensive system not because he was absolute crap. (lol again regardless of personal opinion. I never liked him)
by soman319 on Apr 26, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
//cobb'd X4
medicore
"I want to maintain my flexibility."
-Andy Reid
by BroadStBullies on Apr 26, 2009 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fine...
Jack Ikegwuonu is the second coming of Ronnie Lott. Happy? I’m done.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Apr 26, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
//cobb'd X3
mediocare
"I want to maintain my flexibility."
-Andy Reid
by BroadStBullies on Apr 26, 2009 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lmao
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
RIP Harry Kalas 1936-2009 -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Apr 27, 2009 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
an Andrew sighting. Hello, again.
i think our offseason brings more moves. With Sheldons contract BS and us trading for Hobbs, something is up.
Perhaps i am wrong, i dont get the feeling that we are completely done yet. Some of these guys may be packaged up and sent off. I say Eckel and Justice are the best trade bait.
Brown will end up somewhere, but i dont know that we get him sent off. He should be cut.
As the Eagles always do, they’ll IR a guy or 2 from this list.
by GreenInBaltimore on Apr 26, 2009 10:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Brandon Gibson, Paul Fanaika, and Moise Fouku are our IR candidates. I’m thinking Eckel and Justice have no trade value whatsoever. However, Sheldon Brown would bring back some good value, and I think there could be interest in Reggie Brown as well. Last season was terrible, but he’s had a few nice seasons – Remember… the Pats gave us a 5 for Greg Lewis.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Apr 26, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree about Brown
wasn’t he trying to play through an injury too?
I hate how guys have an off year and they go from up-and-coming to done. F that. Michael Clayton is still eating off that first 1,000-yard season with the Bucs. Reggie Williams did a lot less for a lot longer than Reggie Brown and remained employed. (well maybe not a lot, but you get the pic)
If Brown can’t play for us, it doesn’t mean he can’t play.
Shoot, Matt Ware and Ryan Moats are still in the NFL.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 26, 2009 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
vikings might need him
once harvin gets arrested
or fails a drug test
or retires
or just does something stupid in general
i think we can get a 4 for him
"You always hear about ballplayers buying numbers from other players for five figures. When this .300 lifetime hitter was in Philly, he traded his number to Mitch Williams for two cases of beer." - Stuff Magazine on John Kruk
by BadCo'09 on Apr 27, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude
did you see him not knowing who the Vikings QB is?
pretty funny
"I want to maintain my flexibility."
-Andy Reid
by BroadStBullies on Apr 27, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
link
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d81003310
"I want to maintain my flexibility."
-Andy Reid
by BroadStBullies on Apr 27, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
did now
thanks for the video
kinda feel bad for brad childress tho
"You always hear about ballplayers buying numbers from other players for five figures. When this .300 lifetime hitter was in Philly, he traded his number to Mitch Williams for two cases of beer." - Stuff Magazine on John Kruk
by BadCo'09 on Apr 27, 2009 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So the divas of the NFL?
Harvin and Crabtree are the obvious ones. Who else do you think fits the bill?
Harvin is a hit or miss. Reminds me of a freddie mitchell type of player who has a huge ego but doesn’t seem like he will make it far like the other big ego WRs like…gulp… T.O.
by soman319 on Apr 27, 2009 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah but
un like freddy he has talent
by homestar2281 on Apr 27, 2009 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
FredEx had talent
it was just too good for this world…
"You always hear about ballplayers buying numbers from other players for five figures. When this .300 lifetime hitter was in Philly, he traded his number to Mitch Williams for two cases of beer." - Stuff Magazine on John Kruk
by BadCo'09 on Apr 27, 2009 4:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
roflmao
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
RIP Harry Kalas 1936-2009 -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Apr 27, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
harvin
hes more like reggie bush
by jack is better than asante on Apr 27, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we just gotta make sure
suger booger jack stays off the nose candy and away from percy
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
RIP Harry Kalas 1936-2009 -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Apr 27, 2009 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd
for sugar booger
classic
"You always hear about ballplayers buying numbers from other players for five figures. When this .300 lifetime hitter was in Philly, he traded his number to Mitch Williams for two cases of beer." - Stuff Magazine on John Kruk
by BadCo'09 on Apr 27, 2009 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
check above i replied to you
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
RIP Harry Kalas 1936-2009 -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Apr 27, 2009 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
too bad i spelt it wrong
cobb’d
suger
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
RIP Harry Kalas 1936-2009 -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Apr 27, 2009 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i aint one to //cobb'd anyone
and thanks for the reply
and could have used ya during the draft (i can only speak for day 1, day 2 i was passed out recovering) but we had quite a thread goin lol
"You always hear about ballplayers buying numbers from other players for five figures. When this .300 lifetime hitter was in Philly, he traded his number to Mitch Williams for two cases of beer." - Stuff Magazine on John Kruk
by BadCo'09 on Apr 27, 2009 4:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea
im a regular here but admist all the pre rumors (esp this year since the yahoo deal) its been 3 times as hectic as it was last year … i didnt want the headache until it was all over and done with so i avoided BGN on draft day as much as possible … i peaked in on my i phone to see if jason b dropped some good intel but thats about it
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
RIP Harry Kalas 1936-2009 -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Apr 27, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
brown
i still say brown is better than avant and baskett
by jack is better than asante on Apr 27, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Schobel
If I had any disappointment whatsoever with this offseason (besides the obvious, see my name) it is that we did not do an adequate job of upgrading the TE position. I am a Celek fan. I just don’t think he is good enough to be the ONLY TE on this roster. I am excited about Ingram but I think he is a prospect. I think he takes some time to develop into what we hope he can be. Plus, one of his weaknesses is his desire and ability to block. While the tackle changes will help with pass protection, it does not matter how good your tackles are when the defense brings extra guys off the edge and your TEs cannot block. Then we have Schobel. The guy is even horrible on special teams. Here is hoping one of those trades (Brown/Brown) can get us a decent TE, even if they are just a blocking TE.
by Dawk on Apr 26, 2009 11:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Very very minor problem
but Eldra Buckley isn’t on there. I doubt he makes the team, but since we just signed him this off season he should be mentioned
"Now Sav Rocca played for the Magpies in Australia. I don't know if it's a bird or a pie or what it is." Ike Reese
by The Badassador on Apr 26, 2009 11:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Technically they
signed a safety from the CFL and a TE from UCF or something the other day too, no?
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 27, 2009 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
"Now Sav Rocca played for the Magpies in Australia. I don't know if it's a bird or a pie or what it is." Ike Reese
by The Badassador on Apr 27, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eldra Buckley ...
… is official camp fodder. I’ll look it up later, but very few of the guys they sign in January/February of street free agents to fill out the roster make the team. Maybe one or two in 10 years?
by Andrew B on Apr 27, 2009 7:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eagles Camp Fodder on the 53 Man Roster
Sean Morey was a street free agent camp body. He is the one success from this source.
Robert Redd, on the 2005 roster, for what, a day?
Andy Thorn made an NFL roster, briefly, on some other team. Jeremy Cain was briefly with the Titans.
by Andrew B on Apr 27, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is the third thread like this in the past 6 hours ...
… just for the record.
Putting Eagles Depth into Perspective
and now
It was obviously a great idea, that’s why three of you had it :)
In any case, for fans who want to compare three takes on it, there are the links. I’ll post this back on the other ones in case you navigated to one of those first.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 26, 2009 11:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This one is Andrew's
I hadn’t seen him in a while so I figured I’d do it, but if he’s back he’s pretty damn good at projecting the roster.
by Alon on Apr 27, 2009 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Roster projection
I’ll do that once they sign their undrafted free agents (at least one undrafted guy has made the team every year most years), and we see a little bit of practices and training camp and get a feel for who can play and who can’t. Right now, its not obvious who is getting cut. I especially think the people cheering for Reggie Brown’s departure are being exceedingly premature. Brown >> Baskett and Avant.
by Andrew B on Apr 27, 2009 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with those assessments
lookin forward to it / lemme know if ya want help hah
by Alon on Apr 27, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks!
hey andrew b i dunno who u are .. but brown is better than avant and basket!! yes! ive been saying that for 2 months .. the undrafted FA will be a D Tackle
by jack is better than asante on Apr 27, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MEDIOCRE!
And the high hook of the day goes to jack! Cuz, I don’t know whats funnier, the number of times you fucked that up, or the number of ways you fucked it up.
"I want to maintain my flexibility."
-Andy Reid
by BroadStBullies on Apr 26, 2009 11:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
thats a lotta /cobb'd
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/personal.html?from=getfirefox
http://dictionary.reference.com/
and the number of ways wins by landslide
"You always hear about ballplayers buying numbers from other players for five figures. When this .300 lifetime hitter was in Philly, he traded his number to Mitch Williams for two cases of beer." - Stuff Magazine on John Kruk
by BadCo'09 on Apr 27, 2009 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My Favorite aspect of the post-draft roster
Virtually the entire team is 28 or younger. Football is not quite as obsessed with prime ages as baseball, but salary-conscious teams like the Eagles are a little age-obsessed.
According to Bye, Dawk’s thread on this a few weeks back, everyone’s 28 or younger, except:
Westbrook 29
McNabb 32
Curtis 30
Howard 32
Four guys we’ll make exceptions for based on their ability or produce still. Howard might not be a lock, but his DE/DT versatility could save them a roster spot in what could be a tight cutdown day.
I think the age factor has been underplayed so far in draft reaction. This team is set up for now and for the near future (assuming Kolb is any good) at every position.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 27, 2009 2:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Howard?
Howard had 10 sacks last year coming off the bench. Didn’t that lead the team?
Kearse skidded by on a lot less for three years as a starter.
Akers and Rocca are also over 30. I think AJ might be close too.
by Andrew B on Apr 27, 2009 7:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
rocca
rocca isnt a lock to make this team .. well bring in someone to challange him
by jack is better than asante on Apr 27, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
meydeocre
just for you bsb
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
RIP Harry Kalas 1936-2009 -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Apr 27, 2009 2:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
or how bout
meatyioker
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
RIP Harry Kalas 1936-2009 -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Apr 27, 2009 2:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hahaha
meatyoker .. thats funny
by jack is better than asante on Apr 27, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol touche
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
RIP Harry Kalas 1936-2009 -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Apr 27, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
or should i say 2shay
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
RIP Harry Kalas 1936-2009 -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Apr 27, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
boooo
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
RIP Harry Kalas 1936-2009 -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Apr 27, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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