Eagles trade up for Jeremy Maclin
by JasonB on Apr 25, 2009 6:15 PM EDT
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PrintWe're having some sudden and major internet issues here. So I apologize for being slow with reaction. Let's use this as an open thread for reaction to the pick.
Your Philadelphia Eagles have now picked a WR in the first two rounds 2 straight years. Let's hope this is finally the end of the WR question in Philly.
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mcnabb wants a proven wr
i wish we still looked into getting a vet. oh well this is good too
what if
this is part of a bigger deal for boldin? i dont think it is but i still think this could be a bigger picture thing
"Howard, he know me" Rudy
lions
this is the first time i will say that the lions are smarter than the eagles
there goes Pettigrew
"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." - Billy Beane
by athleticsBB4life on Apr 25, 2009 6:20 PM EDT reply actions
i don't think this a good pick at all.
with all the receivers out there, we take maclin? this doesn’t make any sense to me. i can’t believe it. i know moreno wasn’t there, but goddamn. we already have small fast receivers.
Should've been Pettigrew
Maclin is a poor man’s Jackson and they only have Celek at TE.
that would be sweet
that would be cool if he could be our own hester
I'm confused.
Not sure how I feel. But give it some time….
"Now Sav Rocca played for the Magpies in Australia. I don't know if it's a bird or a pie or what it is." Ike Reese
i'm happy
i like maclin. i’m high on him. i’m happy with the pick
by afksports on Apr 25, 2009 6:23 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
also
the voting hated on my pick in the bgn mock draft with josh freeman to the bucs and i got it right!
wtf
Petitgrew should have gone to Philly
by let_them_eagles_fly on Apr 25, 2009 6:25 PM EDT reply actions
Surprising pick
lets hope eagles pick up shonn green in the second round man idunno this is weird eagles have jackson and curtis who are like allready fast but not tall and then they go and get maclin whos identical to jackson ! WTF
oh well im happy cornerbacks in the nfl will be playing with a cushion wen they come to philly !
Not too shabby,,,
Remeber that this kid might be a good compliment to our recieving core and remeber that Boldin is super exspensive and donovan wants another reciever. Give this one time before we start up the angry mob people!!
SGT Dave "larsonprojects" Evans
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ugh
Hate the pick. absolutely hate it. Now we have 3 5’10’’ receivers who all do the same fucking thing. I can just see the redzone problems coming up again because theres no one over 62 to throw to
i don't understand it.
i would of rather had harvin. yeah, he’s small too. but the guy will get yards after the catch. i’m in a state of disbelief.
Well...
He’s 6’ easy, and he’s nearly 200 lbs…DeSean is like 5’10" 175…he’s not a big guy, but he ain’t tiny either…
---AstrosFan (Austin Lawyer and Sports Fan)
yea, just seems like the same type of receiver
by west36express on Apr 25, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Well...
That causes some serious matchup issues for the other guys…better bring two shut down corners, or you’ll be reading the back of their jerseys all night long…
---AstrosFan (Austin Lawyer and Sports Fan)
what!
hes 6’1 hes more of a play maker than desean he just doesnt always run good routes .. hes a top ten talent and we stold him at 19 . i wanted b pett too .. but he was way too good to pass up .. desean can play in the slot .. or they can all interchange really
by jack is better than asante on Apr 25, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
A good thing aboug Maclin
He may take DeSean off of special teams…the beating the punt returner takes…many times I thought DeSean was bruised and battered when he was on O because of the hit he took on ST…
---AstrosFan (Austin Lawyer and Sports Fan)
I agree
You have a good point
SGT Dave "larsonprojects" Evans
58th SIG BN
US Army
by larsonprojects on Apr 25, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
pfft….not at all! just tryin to figure this out
by west36express on Apr 25, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
No...
I was talking about a bonus of getting a young WR with gettyup…Boldin would not be returning any kicks…
---AstrosFan (Austin Lawyer and Sports Fan)
At least Boldin?
He is the same thing as Desean Jackson. There was no point to move up in the draft to pick up a guy that we don’t need.
Why couldn’t we have been satisfied with Pettigrew?
This better be part of a package deal for Boldin, makes sense if you think about it.
I wanted Pettigrew
but I find it hard to be mad about an offensive weapon that was slotted top 10 at No. 19.
Provided they get a very good TE as well.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
Are you kidding - I'll take another DeSean Jackson
Both on the field at the same time with Curtis. Both returning punts and kicks. Maclin was a TD machine and was arguably the most explosive receiver in the draft.
If teams knew now what DeSean Jackson was going to be, he would have been a top ten pick. I will most certainly take another DeSean Jackson. Lets come at them in waves.
Just get one of the three running backs right now.
by CowboysSuck on Apr 25, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i know. i didn’t mean it quite like that. I’m just saying.
I was just hoping more for the 6 2’’ wide out, with a little experience (Boldin).
ehh. plus I was a little confused about why the need to move up?. not that it really matters anyway.
I love Desean, i just think that we either need a running back or TE right now instead of another guy under 6 foot
yeah but which is proven?……….i thought so
by west36express on Apr 25, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah - but who wanted $10 million a year...
and isn’t slotted in to a rookie pay scale. Pay Boldin and you are going to have problems with DeSean Jackson and a bunch of other guys within the year. Maclin is going to be making more than Jackson, but the Eagles will have no problem giving Jackson a big pay day in 2 years and everybody in the locker room is going to understand and accept that.
Which one's looking for $9-10 million annual?
Which one has missed a minimum of 4 games a year the past two seasons?
I like Boldin but this isn’t as simplistic as the guys from ESPN suggest.
The monster at the end of this blog.
Mortenson (pardon the spelling)
Was saying teams were hearing up to $10 million for Boldin no more than 5 minutes after the Eagles drafted Maclin.
I’m not sold on the pick, I think the Eagles need a RB and would have been very happy with Brown but if Maclin can give you 80% of Boldin’s production in 2009 at 1/10th the cost then its a good choice.
The monster at the end of this blog.
fuck boldin
hes a product of larry fitz. . maclin is a playmaker .. hes better than desean .. and hes a game changer .. everyone in the post is stupid .. we stold this guy .. boldin for 10 mil or maclin for the next 5 years .. not even a choice ,, maclin!!!!
by jack is better than asante on Apr 25, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
The move up was strange
I didn’t get it because with Calvin Johnson you wouldn’t expect the lions to draft another wide out. Millen drafted wideouts in the first year on successive drafts and we see where that got him.
Only thing I can guess is that the Giants were making overtures to either the Cleveland pick or the Detroit pick, and that the birds really wanted Maclin ever since Moreno fell off the board. So they gave the Browns a worthless pick to get what they wanted. I like that move and I like the pick.
really?
we passed on gonzo for a 2ND ROUNDER yesterday. he would have solved (or at least began to help) our redzone problem. and then we trade up to get Maclin, very similar to desean??
I hope we have something up our sleeves…
Gonzalez
I think the issue is the Eagles would rather have a player’s entire career, potentially, than a couple years, for a second-rounder.
I don’t necessarily agree since the birds are running out of time with McNabb and had such red zone deficiencies last 2 years, but I can see where they’re coming from.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
i dont know i like macklin but wells was there ,pettigrew was there i just dont understand why they would take another wr. and one thats puts me in mind of jackson
Give them a chance yet ...
… maybe they get the RB and TE later. Only one of each off the board through the 24th pick.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
Look at it this way...
Maclin was rated to go a lot higher that where he was picked! We god a good deal on this one!
SGT Dave "larsonprojects" Evans
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Drafting a franchise team
Hopefully they keep drafting youth and build around that like the Steelers do.
SGT Dave "larsonprojects" Evans
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wtf????
really do not understand………does anyone think that this guy will be ONLY a special teams guy? if so seems kinda weird that they would pick him up. i know it sounds retarded but they could of gotten boldin instead of this guy, ive looked up his highlights, seems pretty good but…………..
Dont hate just yet
I dont think that people here realize that this guy was supposed to go in the first 15 and has the stats and speed we want, who cares if he’s not a power WR, if he can dust a CB and run it into the end zone, I say we made a good choice!
SGT Dave "larsonprojects" Evans
58th SIG BN
US Army
by larsonprojects on Apr 25, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Notes on Jeremy Maclin
Redshirt Sophomore. Big time playmaker with explosive speed. Not a polished WR, though. Knee injury cost him the 2006 season. Mizzou used him very creatively. They understood what a dynamic force Maclin was and got him the ball as much as possible. Had 91 career carries for 668 yards and 6 TDs. Caught 182 passes for 2315 yards and 22 TDs. One concern is that Maclin was used in a spread offense. His route running will need work. Mizzou got him the ball by design. That won’t happen as much in the NFL. Has good, but not great hands.
Not only was Maclin their best offensive player, but he was an elite kick returner. He ran back 3 punts for TDs and 2 kickoffs.
Top 25 pick.
all of that should have been in quotes…
by cavortingEagle on Apr 25, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
i just hope they know what they are doing….seems kinda silly to me but, who knows
by west36express on Apr 25, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Method to the madness
I know that Andy Reid is brainstorming new plays for this kid, give Andy some credit that he does see the big picture and might be on to something with Maclin!
SGT Dave "larsonprojects" Evans
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US Army
pick
I dont know too much about Maclin but it seems like a good pick to me, yeah we need RB most (our TEs are fine for a bit, not great but it is not like they are horrible) but WR is probably the next biggest area. If the guy is the same as desean and Curtis that is no big deal because then they will just haev to have 3 fast corners or safeties or whatever. Haha, i mean you could have 3 6 foot 4 guys too and even if they are a little slower they would still work well together. To say it is bad because he is the same as Jackson is kind of weird, imgaine if we got someone who was the same as Westbrook that would be good. Jackson did well last year during his rookie year, hopefully he does better this year.
As far as RB it seems like there are 3 guys, Brown McCoy and Wells who are all about the same so why not just wait and take one of them in the 2nd round or something.
Probably the best player out there available and fits in the best with our need
Exactly
if we get Brown, McCoy or Wells in 2 … that’ll be hard to beef with.
Also, Weaver and improved T play will help make up for the lack of a blocking TE, if that ends up being the case.
Of course, it could end up being a glaring hole on an otherwise stacked roster.
Blocking TEs can be found later though. I’m hopeful.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
i really like celek, and think he’s only gonna get better, i hope brown is still kickin around in the second rd, he seems like a speedy powerback
by west36express on Apr 25, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Celek is legit ...
… as a passing threat.
Problem is Birds can do whatever they want between the 20s. Can they finish drives this year (with Weaver?), or will they settle for field goal attempts and lose close games again?
These next few rounds may determine.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
recap -- what did they trade to move up
Hey, I tried to find it — what did the Eagles give up to move up?
no sweat trading a 6th
when you have four 5ths
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
yeah thats just too much to take in. its all about the 1st and 2nd
by west36express on Apr 25, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
cleveland traded their 19th for phillys 21st…not sure what thats all about
by west36express on Apr 25, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Draft picks are slotted
and Cleveland coveted a center. So they will pay him much less than if they had taken him earlier, or used their first-rounder on a more premium position.
I guess Philly needed to jump in front of Detroit to get Maclin.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
yeah really, detroit is gonna have a pretty stacked offense in no time…..but they are still detroit…..lol
by west36express on Apr 25, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Gotta judge the draft as a whole ...
… let’s see how they finish this thing out. They still need the RB and TE.
As for the Maclin pick, very few of us saw it coming, but that’s what the Eagles do, zig when everyone thinks they’re going to zag … they draft for value, not for need.
I was 100% in the WR is a WANT not a NEED camp, and I really coveted Moreno or Pettigrew.
But I find it very hard to be angry with my team for drafting a player widely regarded as a top-10 talent as we prepare to pay him the No. 19 salary. And he fits our system and can return kicks to boot.
And to think I thought this pick would make the value and the Need a WR camps happy. I guess some Philly fans will second-guess anything :)
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 25, 2009 6:37 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
another Scouting report
Reads kinda like a WR I was drooling about:
At 6-1 and 200 pounds, Maclin has a rare blend of size and speed. Obviously there will be taller receivers out there, but not many in the NFL are 6-1 and 200 pounds and as fast as Maclin. He is not just a speed receiver either; he will break his fair share of tackles.
There’s a ton more info in this one so check out the link
Don't be worried we didn't take Pettigrew
Obviously the birds are high on Celek. He has put on some muscle, will work on blocking, and we already know how dominate can be in the passing game. We don’t need a 2nd starting quality TE. Eagles got speed with the first pick… Can’t teach speed, but you can teach a TE how to block better. This guy will be GOOD!
"I'd like to thank my hands for being so great."
-FredEx
totally agree
I am not sure why everyone thought TE was such an important position to fill anyway — i was hoping the eagles wouldnt take Pettigrew he sounded like he would be kind of soft — plus the Celek Schoebel tandem has been mildly competent in the past year or two, whereas aside from Curtis and Jackson, the WRs havent been — I think WR was a bigger need than TE
Boldin?
What is the possibility of packaging this guy for Boldin. Or is it even worth it anymore?
Lol
that was actually to be posted for some dallas dude a little further up the page
"I'd like to thank my hands for being so great."
-FredEx
no worries, i thought that came kinda out of left field
by west36express on Apr 25, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow.
What’s with all the hate? This kid was a top-10 talent and we just solidified our WRs for the next few years. Love the pick.
And BTW, we didn’t get Boldin because he’s NOT ON THE BLOCK.
I'm starting to think ...
… you don’t believe Arizona wants to trade Boldin. :)
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
haha
That just may be right :) I’d rather think that.
by chrisbeomsuh on Apr 25, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Or because he wants $10 million
or because he’s 29 years old.
I wanted Boldin as much as the next guy, but if we couldn’t get him I’m at least happy that we didn’t draft an offensive lineman. I wanted Moreno also, and I bet the birds were ready to jump in front of the chargers to get him – but the Denver choice killed that.
Yeah
I think it’s weird that you get 3 months to pre-analyze the draft, the team gets 10 minutes (or a couple hours) to make up their minds, then we get 3 more months to second-guess :)
And anything can happen. I did not see Moreno at 12.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
Eagles close to getting TE Scheffler
There trying to work something out
Just Wondering...
Did it bother anyone that DENVER got Moreno?
I dont know, maybe just a lil bottled anger from the whole Dawkins deal.
Yes
there were a ton of posts about that either on the Moreno countdown thread or the original draft thread.
I believe one of them was “fuck the broncos” repeated 35 times :)
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
Patience is a virtue
We might get Scheffler or a TE in Rd 2
SGT Dave "larsonprojects" Evans
58th SIG BN
US Army
Agree 100%
Judge the draft at the end of the draft, and the team at Lehigh.
I know that’s not human nature, esp. not for Eagles fans
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
i think its funny denver got moreno
they wanna be the eagles obviously . Yeah it does kind of suck to know that chances are he wont contribute right away like dede did and if we would have traded to get a vet they could have came in right away and contributed but we will see what happens we have till tomorrow night to rack up our complaints and im sure there will be plenty more to come :)
" If you do that its really unfair, that's my teammate (sniff), that's my quarterback, if you guys do that its not fair, we lost as a team (sniff, sniff, sniff, sniff, sniff)." - Terrell Owens
is it just me...............?
or does it seem like players always go to teams that have similar colors……ex donald brown just now to the colts…..
" If you do that its really unfair, that's my teammate (sniff), that's my quarterback, if you guys do that its not fair, we lost as a team (sniff, sniff, sniff, sniff, sniff)." - Terrell Owens
Even weirder was Drew Brees ending up with the saints... he played at Purdue... who practically copied the saints Uni's
too bad no college team has uniforms like the eagles
id love to get beanie
" If you do that its really unfair, that's my teammate (sniff), that's my quarterback, if you guys do that its not fair, we lost as a team (sniff, sniff, sniff, sniff, sniff)." - Terrell Owens
Yes...
And I’d settle for Andre Brown…some RB with some speed/power…
---AstrosFan (Austin Lawyer and Sports Fan)
which position we got on the 2nd round???
by let_them_eagles_fly on Apr 25, 2009 7:04 PM EDT reply actions
hopefully we can grab a good one that can complement B-West
by let_them_eagles_fly on Apr 25, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm all over the Scheffler rumor
if someone would source it :)
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
Hakeem Nicks
Nothing wrong with this guy.
i wouldn’t mind him, just for the fact he seems ready for the NFL.
Already told a Giants fan
he’s no Jeremy Maclin. :)
Have no idea really. Funny how that works.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
really? you like the scheffler talks? im not a huge fan…..and a 2nd for him? id really like to get beanie….but looks like titans are getting him
by west36express on Apr 25, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Here comes Arizona.
well. wouldn’t this just be great if Arizona picked up a wide receiever.
A far stretch, but really. Boldin would get squirmish.
yeah really…i think they are ok at wr with fitz and breaston though….a wr would be a spite pick i think if anything
by west36express on Apr 25, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
ANOTHER ONE!!!!!!!
Beanie to the cards…. Red team to red team
" If you do that its really unfair, that's my teammate (sniff), that's my quarterback, if you guys do that its not fair, we lost as a team (sniff, sniff, sniff, sniff, sniff)." - Terrell Owens
Just got back from work
and I like this pick! Helps the wr core and they can easily get a good TE or RB in the 2nd now, McCoy or Javon Ringer would be good for me!
No Need to worry about TEs
There are still a lot of great options on the board. Jared Cook seems to be a better fit for the birds as it is anyways. The guy runs a sub 4.50 40 and hauled in 10 TDs for 800 yards last year. He could be a huge weapon for us this season. Ingram and Nelson are the same way. I can only hope they drop to pick 53….
hahaa
you all bitch about boldin and edwards for weeks .. and the eagles get the best playmaking wr in the draft and no ones happy .. you got to be kidding me .. stupid people
by jack is better than asante on Apr 25, 2009 8:16 PM EDT reply actions
you of all people shouldn’t be calling anyone stupid… besides, you picked the eagles getting vontae davis in the first round.
Whoever doesn't like this pick...
…is a moron! We took the best player available! Maclin should have been taken between 10 and 15, I’ll gladly take him at 21, especially since our boy Knowshon Moreno wasn’t there. I dare the Cowboys, Giants, or Redskins to try guarding our trio of Maclin/Jackson/Curtis… can’t be done. We may be a bit undersized, but our speed is nasty! Brilliant pick by the Eagles. Make McNabb happy. Complete the WR group. There are plenty of RBs left. Don’t worry.
by All Philadelphia Sports on Apr 25, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions
Agreed.
I’ll take the upgrade from Baskett/Avant to Maclin over that of Celek to Pettigrew. I also like taking the highest guy remaining on your board over a player that isn’t as good or doesn’t fit your system.
I’m pissed at the Broncos for taking both Moreno and Ayers (not that I don’t think Cole and Parker can handle it, Ayers just looked great to me).
The red zone concern is still huge.
haha
ayers and moreno were both on my bust list .. denver sucks .. maclin and mccoy wooooo!
by jack is better than asante on Apr 25, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Ambivalent about this pick
Maclin may be a good pick in the long run, but frustrating for those of us who want to win before Westbrook’s knees break down. Barring any moves, I don’t think he’s gonna see that much time at WR, although he will be valuable as a return man. He’ll be rotating in with Baskett and Avant and Brown, and won’t get enough reps to produce the way that Jackson did last year, unless there’s a lot of injuries. In a couple of years though he should be either the on or the two, once Curtis slows down and he’s a definite upgrade over Avant and Baskett once he adjusts to the pro game. I’m not convinced it was the best use of a first round pick, but it’s not a terrible move.
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