Glazer: Eagles trade 28th overall pick for LT Jason Peters
by JasonB on Apr 17, 2009 1:49 PM EDT
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Per Jay Glazer, the deal is done.
The Eagles have acquired Pro Bowl left tackle Jason Peters from the Bills for the 28th overall pick in next week's draft, FOXSports.com has learned.Buffalo will also receive a second-day pick in this year's draft, as well as a late-round pick in the 2010 draft.
Peters held out before the start of the 2008 season, missing Buffalo's entire training camp and all four of the team's preseason games. Peters ended his holdout before the regular season began, with the Bills never giving in to his contract demans.
Peters, 27, has made the Pro Bowl the last two seasons, and was an All-Pro selection in 2007.
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nice
this is very good. I assume they have a long term deal worked out as well? This has to knock us out of the Boldin running though.
"I've gotto go with PSU. Ill make that pick every year till I die, and eventually it's gonna happen. Hear me now."- LL Cool J
by psuaar on Apr 17, 2009 1:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OMFGOMFG
SPECULATION SPECULATION SPECULATION SPECULATION. WILL WE USE THE 21st to get BOLDIN?!!!!!!
ARE WE DRAFTING A RUNNINGBACK> OMFGOMFGOMFG
by Metang3 on Apr 17, 2009 1:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nice to see reid and co do something we needed...
offensive line needed a fresh face, and we have arguably the top or one of top 3 offensive tackle in the league…and we still have the 21st pick!….i am excited to see what reid does there, heres to hoping he picks up a wide out or rb….our running game could be nasty with wells here….or our passing game could be elite with kenny britt…i dont think we will deal for boldin…it would probably take a first and maybe third….and idk if reid will want to do that…though we have the cap space and picks to be crazy…
I’m ready for next saturday already!
by blt5050 on Apr 17, 2009 2:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
So we gave up the 19th pick last year, which Carolina used to select Otah, to get arguably the best LT in the game in Jason Peters.
I like it.
by ajay on Apr 17, 2009 2:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually...
We traded that 19 for Peters, Trevor laws, Mike McGlynn, and Quintin Demps.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Apr 17, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
O-Line
Jason Peters – LT
Todd Herremans – LG
Jamaal Jackson/Nick Cole – C
Shawn Andrews – RG
Stacy Andrews – RT
Rest of the NFL: Fear.
by ajay on Apr 17, 2009 2:12 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
DON'T FORGET
we also got a huge upgrade at fullback!
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." - Bear Bryant
by NJBammer on Apr 17, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So glad we don’t have to play that line this year. :)
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 17, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Buffalo did pretty well under the circumstances...
Getting a late 1, a 4, and a 6 next year is pretty good compared to the prospect of this guy sitting out until the season starts again.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Apr 17, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent!!!
Well done, FO!
Also, chest bump to Football Outsiders, who called this trade.
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/ramblings/2009/2009-fo-mock-draft
“The one trade we’ll mention before getting to our mock involves the Philadelphia Eagles. Although there’s certainly a distinct pool of talent in this draft at tackle, and (as discussed at length in last week’s Four Downs on the NFC East) the Eagles could choose to move Todd Herremans to left tackle, we think Philadelphia will trade the 28th overall pick to Buffalo for the 139th overall pick and left tackle Jason Peters. Although Peters struggled last year, he was among the best left tackles in the league in 2006 and 2007; he’s a supreme talent, and a better fit for a team attempting to win now than any of the tackles in the draft. At 27, he’s still in his prime and fits the Eagles’ organizational philosophy. Buffalo, meanwhile, is obviously uninterested in re-signing Peters to the contract he wants, so this move allows them to find his replacement in a deep class of tackles. It’s a move that makes sense for both teams.”
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." - Bear Bryant
by NJBammer on Apr 17, 2009 2:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not to discredit them ...
… but this was rumored by a lot of people in a lot of places. It’s not that much of a surprise, except maybe the timing.
Or are you saying they nailed the exact price?
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 17, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well,
they were the only ones I saw calling it. Maybe it was all over, and I just missed it, though. Still a pretty good call, though they didn’t quite nail the price.
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." - Bear Bryant
by NJBammer on Apr 17, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I didn't mean that in a bad way ...
… I’m just saying, Peters to the Eagles had definitely been discussed. Here at least.
I agree, anytime you nail anything that far down in the draft, it’s a nice call.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 17, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
8-)
sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeettttttttttttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ABails8 on Apr 17, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fuck yeah.
Not a valuable comment, I know, but I’m pumped!
by JCC on Apr 17, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes ...
… that’s all you need to say. :)
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 17, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So now I have to purge my mind of that thread ...
… where he was 31st among LTs in sacks given up.
Of course, we debated the usefulness of that stat several times (it means he wasn’t requiring help from backs & TEs, etc.), and I imagine we’ll discredit it even more now that Peters is down with us.
This was encouraging, from the Football Outsiders post above:
Although Peters struggled last year, he was among the best left tackles in the league in 2006 and 2007
I admit, I’m geeked.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 17, 2009 2:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Haha, yeah...
Sorry about about that sack-total post. I guess I shouldn’t post it again, eh?
by Bye, Dawk :( on Apr 17, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
keep in mind the kid didnt want to be there
id probably give up more sacks if i didnt want to be apart of a team
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RIP Harry Kalas 1936-2009 -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Apr 17, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, the logic says that a guy playing for
a contract plays better, and once he gets it, the production tails off.
The flipside is a guy playing for a winning team, in a winning atmosphere, who just has to do his job and watch everyone else do theirs might be happier. More dedicated. More concerned about not letting other talented players down.
FWIW.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 17, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like it, even though I was intrigued with the idea of Shawn Andrews going to LT I am even more intrigued him lining up next to his brother.
by The Legend on Apr 17, 2009 2:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agree
100%
And wasn’t the take on Stacy Andrews that he was one of the best RTs in the game at one point? So now we have two tackles to replace Runyan and Thomas who were at one point considered one of the best players in the league at their positions?
And how old are they?
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 17, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like it
And if you think of it, we shouldn’t be surprised that the FO went for a O lineman in a trade despite all of the other talk you heard in the media.
I feel much better about our OL situation now.
by MRPH on Apr 17, 2009 2:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Same here
I feel much better about our OL situation now.
I really wasn’t that worried about it since I really believed Herremans & Shawn Andrews could slide out, but now that they don’t have to … that we aren’t forced to draft line depth … that we got an established player with our draft pick … all great news.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 17, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Both are 27
And if they hold up like Runyan and Thomas, they could be there for the next 7 years.
by ajay on Apr 17, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought they were both young ...
… and without even looking you had to know that’s what the Eagles’ FO was doing, trying to set up the new set of bookends for years to come.
Gotta love that.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 17, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
A move for the future for Kevin Kolb, but instant impact for D-Mac this year.
by ajay on Apr 17, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of D-Mac
Will he consider this a weapon? Heh.
by MRPH on Apr 17, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I was a QB ...
…. I’d love having guys who keep me off my ass/from getting drilled. The more the merrier in that regard.
Especially since dude would rather to stand back there and go through his progressions anyway …
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 17, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's great now...
…is that we can just take the best offensive skill position player in the draft, which is always more fun.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Apr 17, 2009 2:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Another reason to be geeked by the offseason movement
it was pretty obvious all year that our tackles weren’t getting the job done for the run in 08. Here’s proof that last year, the Eagles were among the best in the league when running to the guards, and among the worst when running to the tackles.
http://footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol
I think our run/pass mix will improve this year. It now also makes more sense to draft a high-ceiling RB. This is just such a great move!!
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." - Bear Bryant
by NJBammer on Apr 17, 2009 2:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I can’t wait to see us run the ball behind the the great wall of Andrews brothers.
by MRPH on Apr 17, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a 1 and a 4...
They just said on SportsCenter it’s a 1, a 4, and an undisclosed pick next year.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Apr 17, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Per Rotoworld
“It’s believed that the Giants also made a play for the Pro Bowler.”
Linky
If true, this is even better.
by ajay on Apr 17, 2009 2:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Heck yeah.
Although they’re no doubt gonna steal someone the Eagles’ fan base covets by the time the draft is over.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 17, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
niceeee
i love that they traded a pick they were probably taking a lineman on for one of the best lineman in the league, smart move
Go Cubs Go, Fly Eagles Fly
by ManBearPigMBP on Apr 17, 2009 2:28 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Sigh
We only have a measly 10 draft picks left, including another 1st rounder. Fucking Eagles ;-)
by ajay on Apr 17, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I know
Those cheap-ass jerks never use their first round picks. (Hee-hee)
by Tracer Bullet on Apr 17, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
*crickets*
from the “We have $40 million in cap space and we aren’t going to use it!” camp that was chirping loud in Feb. and March.
Hey, if JackASSante gets to pat himself on the back for wanting the Peters deal (below, if you haven’t read that far yet), I get to pat myself (and all the level-headed people who were down with this line of thinking) on the back for saying ‘Be patient. Don’t judge the offseason until Lehigh’
Because
Jason Peters
Stacy Andrews
Leonard Weaver (Klecko back to DT)
Sean Jones (Rashad Baker)
21st pick
53rd pick
etc.
is looking like a nice offseason so far.
And while you could certainly argue that the FO was filling holes of its own making, the other side can argue that three biggest deals (LT, RT and FS) made us 7 years younger at each position.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 17, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Love it now...
You guys just traded for the laziest talent on the planet…He has unbelievable talent, but as soon as he gets paid you can watch the pounds pack on. I’d be wary of the deal he gets…
by DonutVT on Apr 17, 2009 2:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I know we aren't supposed to personally attack... but...
Blow me.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Apr 17, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The only one packing pounds is....
you. Donout
Taking Route 36 will bring you to Touchdown,PHI
by Route36 on Apr 17, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You go right ahead and be wary ...
… Even if Peters is a bust, which his track record suggests he won’t be, we can still shift Shawn Andrews or Herremans to tackle in a pinch and let Nick Cole or MJG (when he heals up) play guard.
I don’t like to use the words “we’re set for a long time here,” but given how high people seem to be on McGlynn and King Dunlap’s potential, and the fact that Winston Justice’s unfulfilled potential is still occupying an Eagles roster spot (for the time being), what would you call it?
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 17, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now all we need is.....
Moreno at 21 and Shawn Nelson/Chase Coffman at 85. Trade our 2nd and a 5th for Ocho Cinco. Unstoppable.
Taking Route 36 will bring you to Touchdown,PHI
by Route36 on Apr 17, 2009 2:35 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, we might as well ask now ...
… what do you think we do with the 21?
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 17, 2009 2:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Guys
First Leonard Weaver, then Jason Peters…
If we draft a running back early I’m going to go out on a limb and suggest that Andy Reid intends to RUN THE BALL next year…?
by ajay on Apr 17, 2009 2:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
SHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
You’re gonna jinx it, dude!!!
by Bye, Dawk :( on Apr 17, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Matt Mosely (of all people) with a good take
He seems to think we got a great deal here.
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nflnation/0-7-260/Peters-will-be-a-huge-upgrade-for-Eagles.html
by wildcatlh on Apr 17, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Mosely said this?
Quarterback Donovan McNabb reportedly wanted to take a wait-and-see approach as to what the Eagles might do to upgrade the offense. In my mind, Peters is a bigger upgrade than any receiver out there (Anquan Boldin and Braylon Edwards) would be.
Maybe he does have a brain.
by MRPH on Apr 17, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is great for the O-Line, but we have no shot at upgrading at receiver know right? still its great to get peters are O-Line will be amazing!
by eaglesinmd on Apr 17, 2009 2:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There's always a shot at everything ...
… even upgrading at WR.
That’s the point, the Eagles’ FO will do anything it think makes sense to improve the team.
Not to fuel more WR speculation, but if they just traded one first round pick for a 27-year-old established player, what makes you think they wouldn’t do it again, for the right deal?
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 17, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok so this makes things a lot more interesting for the next week.
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Apr 17, 2009 2:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like this and I don’t … mixed feelings right now … I know it makes our team better and sures up the line fills a whole and all that nonsense. I’m guessing the price to move up high enough for a top Tackle in this years draft was more than the price to get Peters. And I have to trust Andy’s judgment on lineman he knows his shiz.
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Apr 17, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
christ this is the only day in the pat two months that i’ve actually had real work to do at work and i miss this… lol
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
by foos05 on Apr 17, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha me to I got a text and was like shit better log onto BGN.
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Apr 17, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
christ… too bad i didn’t get work more frequently… maybe i’d log onto to see some other crazy signings/trades
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
by foos05 on Apr 17, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow
are u kidding me .. this post is rediculous .. who has been calling for peters for all along? me .. and no one suported me .. everyone was saying hes over rated .. they dont want him .. hes not top 5 tackle .. he gives up sacks .. blah blah .. and then we finally get him .. and here come all the comment about how happy every one is .. seriously thats bs .. stick by your opinions .. if we take knowshon at 21 .. i will not change my mind and be happy .. i have my opinions and i keep them no matter what .. all you people who jumped ship and are on the peters boat now .. hahahaha
by jack is better than asante on Apr 17, 2009 2:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How did I know
You would make this trade about you and your brilliant opinions somehow…
by ajay on Apr 17, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So will you change your name
to peters is better than eben britton for week in honor of the deal?
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 17, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?!?
I seem to remember a lot of nonsense about Chad Johnson.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Apr 17, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
peters is now an eagle
so we will say he’s awesome because we love the eagles. if you don’t like it, i don’t care.
by eagleyosh on Apr 17, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I nearly wrote this same thing ...
… it’s what people do. We like players on our team better. It’s called being a fan.
If you want to grandstand about sticking to your opinion — well, you obviously don’t need permission to grandstand — in light of changing information, feel free … but how’d that work out for G.W. Bush?
In theory, some people should be getting props for backing the Peters deal and some people who didn’t like it will probably change their tune … because its done and they have to. There will be a few FO-haters who say we overpaid or he’ll be lazy or whatever, some Eagles fans are never happy.
The thing about getting respect, though, jack … you almost never get it by prompting people to give it to you. And clearly what you want is a lot of attention and a little respect around BGN. So maybe let your opinion speak for itself?
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 17, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats stupid
i have no more respect for you eaglesyosh .. if you cant form your own opinions and love every player just because their an eagle its stupid .. i hated consodine .. and i talked trash on him when he was on and off the field .. so i atleast form my own opinions .. i liked peters .. no one else wanted him .. now you all jump ship .. its bs..
by jack is better than asante on Apr 18, 2009 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's cool
i’ve never had respect for you. who is eaglesyosh though? sure as hell isn’t me. I don’t have an s in my name. but that’s ok. sorry for being an eagles fan…you know, and liking the players that are eagles…
by eagleyosh on Apr 18, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
also, you can't form sentences. I don't completely understand what you wrote. sorry
by eagleyosh on Apr 18, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
yea rite man . . seriously .. in life you need to form your own opinions .. you dont have to like every eagle .. or hate every cowboy .. like who you want to like .. think who you think is good .. its all opinion .. your entitled to your own opinion
by jack is better than asante on Apr 19, 2009 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what?
you just attacked me for my opinion. my opinion is that since i’m an eagles fan, i should like people on the eagles. and you attacked that. take your own advice
by eagleyosh on Apr 19, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sick burn
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 19, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahah
no thats bs .. you dont have to like every eagle .. thats the total oppisite of forming your own opinion .. sick burn my ass .. u make no sense .. i like who i like .. i like them no matter what team they are on .. i love jacobs . and hes a giant .. i dont love samuel .. and hes an eagle .. i am a huge eagles fan .. and if asante picks off a ball im happy. . but i still dont like the guy .. all you ppl who didnt like peters and said hes over rated .. stick to your opinions .. dont just say hes good cuz hes an eagle .. i have more respect for ppl who form opinions and keep them
by jack is better than asante on Apr 19, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
When you predict every possible trade, you’re bound to be right if they do indeed trade
"What did it feel like? That collision, I Âdidn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs
by jalarsen1 on Apr 17, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well...
even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then….
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Apr 17, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bs!
i dont predict shit .. i said no boldin .. no moreno .. i want peters .. the FO values offense and defensive lines .. and peters would have the biggest impact .. than everyone brought up the sacks and how he wasnt worth a first .. blah blah hes lazy .. he gave up so many sacks .. and i said he was dominant and would make this team better than adding any of the WR and yes i said i want chad .. chad is more of an impact than boldin .. hes better when he wants to play .. last year he didnt .. it is kinda bs that u all talked trash on peters and said he wasnt worth it and you didnt want him and now your all soo happy .. stick to your opinions .. if you were all trashing the deal i would have a lot more respect for you for sticking to your opinions .. i do .. if the take moreno im still gonna be mad. . there will be no .. what a great pick .. post from me
by jack is better than asante on Apr 18, 2009 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude...
i think you may be the only one here who wants chris wells.
by snowhill82 on Apr 19, 2009 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Posted by ESPN.com’s Tim Graham
Two new things I’m hearing about the Jason Peters trade, which is being finalized as I type this:
* Peters is meeting with the Philadelphia Eagles sans agent Eugene Parker, and talks are going extremely well. So well, in fact, that the deal could be announced Friday. The initial expectation was it could take until Sunday.
Taking Route 36 will bring you to Touchdown,PHI
by Route36 on Apr 17, 2009 2:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Weird, but probably a good thing — he wants to be here, and he wants to get the deal done.
by wildcatlh on Apr 17, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
More proof for my theory that he just straight up didn’t want to be a Bill…
… which means his erratic play will disappear…
… which means you guys are going to the Super Bowl next year. Beat the Pats! :)
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 17, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah Brian – I get that feeling more and more – espcially sans parker.
good luck eagles – if he plays up to his standards your gonna be very very happy
The rest of you go get the goods on Stan. His mom grounded him once for setting something on fire. Let's find out what that something was and then lie and say it was a puppy.
by J2 on Apr 17, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well as long as the cordial Bills fans are in the house
Enjoy the 28th pick. Heck, I hope the fourth-rounder pans out too.
See, we are capable of Brotherly Love!
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 17, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
J2
Great tag line for your posts man…..’bout spit soda on my monitor….F-ing gotta love South Park
Loooooook here brotha'.....who you jivein' with that Cosmic Debris!!!???
by OkieEagle on Apr 17, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah – their my favorite – single handedly saved Comedy Central…..ty!
The rest of you go get the goods on Stan. His mom grounded him once for setting something on fire. Let's find out what that something was and then lie and say it was a puppy.
by J2 on Apr 17, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the weather
is beautiful i knew something good was gonna happen today … now gimmie crabs or boldin and im happy … always hungry :D
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RIP Harry Kalas 1936-2009 -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Apr 17, 2009 2:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
couldnt resist....
hahahaha…gimmie crabs….hahaha
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Apr 17, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Three things I'm wondering ...
1) How hard Buffalo tried for the 21st pick, and why the Eagles wouldn’t surrender it.
(just because they were bargaining, or do they have plans for the 21)
2) What this means for Winston Justice’s future.
(is he just going to play out his deal as a backup, or will he be shopped hard this week?)
3) Have the Eagles realized they have a 2-4 year window with McNabb & Westbrook?
(and if yes, does this mean they’d rather have more established players in their mid-20s as opposed to rookies?)
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 17, 2009 2:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good question on Justice...
I’d take a box of kicking tees for him, but that might be a high asking price.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Apr 17, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Draft Fantasy...
Not to be confused with a fantasy draft… This is what I hope happens on draft day, and bear with me because I know it’s not really what a lot of you want.
Pk #21: Brandon Pettigrew — Great blocker, great hands. He doesn’t have speed, but we don’t need a deep threat at TE since we have DJax, Curtis, and even Westbrook. He’s a great 3rd down guy for short in routes, and, worth saying again, is an exceptional blocker.
2nd Round: Trade up to get Donald Brown hoping he falls out of the first. I am not a huge fan of Knowshon (/please don’t hit me). I don’t think he has the strength (mainly upper body) to be a great back. And I really like how Donald Brown looked behind an egregiously mediocre offensive line.
So there’s my take…
by TwoTonsOfIrony on Apr 17, 2009 2:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If we take Pett...
we might lead the league is rushing, with a 6.0 YPA…
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." - Bear Bryant
by NJBammer on Apr 17, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats impossible
we would have to do some serious flipping of percentages so yea if we flipped our pass 80% and ran 20% we def would :D !
"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh
RIP Harry Kalas 1936-2009 -NPK
by NorthPhillyKid on Apr 17, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm in the relatively small Pettigrew camp too ...
… I just think TE is such a glaring need beyond Celek, and having two that can play, especially with diverse skill sets, is a great luxury.
But I guess my reasoning for RB (there’s talent outside the first round) is relevant for TE this year too.
I wouldn’t argue with an RB at 21, and maybe I’m falling into the ‘draft for need’ trap, but I really want us to go RB or TE there.
I wouldn’t rule out another trade …
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 17, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
other than OL they don’t have wholes on Offense with Evan, TO, Lynch, Jackson, Edwards, Royal, Parrish.
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Apr 17, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OL is a pretty big hole, though. They’ve also been linked (in a few mock drafts) with Pettigrew at #11.
They have a pretty nice collection of WRs to be sure, and I like Edwards.
by wildcatlh on Apr 17, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Royals gone and Lynch has a 3 game suspension.
but we do have 2 holes on our o-line to fill (thats a lot) and the TE position needs to be upgraded – although we do have a good blocker in Derek fine and if we take say a pass catching TE in the 3rd or something that would fill that hole
But we obviously need to fill our LG and LT on offense. Our current backup Kirk Chambers is actually a pretty good player – we might see him start and let a rookie develope fora while first.
The rest of you go get the goods on Stan. His mom grounded him once for setting something on fire. Let's find out what that something was and then lie and say it was a puppy.
by J2 on Apr 17, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
think they’ll put Langston Walker at LT … ? and do you think they’ll snake Pettigrew.
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Apr 17, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
can’t say on Walker – his feet aren’t very nimble – but he played there last year and played very well. so this wouldn’t surprise me.
as it stands – i’d proabably thnik they’d keep Walker there and start Chambers at LT.
Pettigrew – well Buffalo does move up into the first round more often so it wouldn’t surprise me if they tried to jump up (down) from 28 to get before Atlanta or soemthing like that.
If he falls to us at 28 i’d bet a pretty good penny we take that pick before the clock even starts
The rest of you go get the goods on Stan. His mom grounded him once for setting something on fire. Let's find out what that something was and then lie and say it was a puppy.
by J2 on Apr 17, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cool it should be interesting to see what they do I know I’ll be paying attention good luck this year with Team Obliterator.
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Apr 17, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
join
i got some company on the bpett camp
by jack is better than asante on Apr 18, 2009 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
with Andy, who knows
we could still be at the bottom of the league in attempts
by andyreidswaistline on Apr 17, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if Mockingthedraft will do another redo lol.
by Clyde Simmons on Apr 17, 2009 2:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Damn, now I gotta trade for Peters in Madden...
Yup, I’m a tool.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Apr 17, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A lot of us wanted Jordan Gross...
…who is a year older. Will Jason Peters do instead? ;-)
by ajay on Apr 17, 2009 3:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd take Gross...
For one, he’s better, but also because his name/number combo on his jersey looks funny… “Gross 69”
by Bye, Dawk :( on Apr 17, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
our-kansas
How often do two Pro Bowl o-linemen from the same college team who came out of school the same year end up playing together in the NFL? On a line with one of their brothers no less… Andy Reid kept saying earlier this offseason that Shawn Andrews was the best college LT he’d ever seen at Arkansas. I wonder what his opinion of Peters was as an in-line blocker at TE?
Also what will happen between Herremans, Jean-Gilles and Cole now. With some of the other young guys we’ve got on the line, I wonder if Andy will consider moving either Max or Todd?
by thistheperson on Apr 17, 2009 3:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nope...
Herremans will still start and Jean-Gillis is too valuable as a backup.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Apr 17, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
I was thinking the exact same thing about Madden, woot!
Gonna miss Dawk a WHOLE lot next year..
by xEdge_Camx on Apr 17, 2009 3:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Damn that give Buffalo the 11th overall pick, 28th overall and 42nd … that’s a lot of ammo.
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Apr 17, 2009 3:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
TO's going to tear that team apart anyways
No worries ;-)
by ajay on Apr 17, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Statistically
he does well the first year and it’s only a 1 year contract …
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Apr 17, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You saying they might not be done?
They do have a lot of holes. Including one now on the left side of their line.
Can’t throw to T.O. if T.E. has no time.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 17, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BGN
Where 200 comments within an hour of a trade for an O-lineman is a given
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 17, 2009 3:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Apr 17, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
Jason Peters was originally picked up by Buffalo (undrafted) as an OT/TE. Wonder if we’ll use him as a tackle-eligible. That’s a big target for McNabb!
by ajay on Apr 17, 2009 3:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
see more weapons …
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Apr 17, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
notice how everything we do is aimed at picking up extremely athletic players that can excel at more than one aspect of football
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
by foos05 on Apr 17, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m just glad this gives me something else to talk about today on the golf course rather than stupid WR talk.
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Apr 17, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah but it will stop my golf buddies from bringing it up for today at least …
average age of our O-Line …. 26.8 Years Old … gotta love that.
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Apr 17, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah but it will stop my golf buddies from bringing it up for today at least …
you would think that, wouldn’t you?
average age of our O-Line …. 26.8 Years Old
and yes, that’s awesome…
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
by foos05 on Apr 17, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is just ridiculous his Wiki is already updated
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Apr 17, 2009 3:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
those people and their interwebz…
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
by foos05 on Apr 17, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im lovin the deal…
dmacc is gonna have plenty of time now to be accurate/play action all freken day
by Bugzy on Apr 17, 2009 3:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
plenty of time now to be accurate
uhhh i’ll debate that point… but overall still a good thing
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
by foos05 on Apr 17, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
How about...
…one less excuse for not being accurate?
by ajay on Apr 17, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah that was probably the better wording
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
by foos05 on Apr 17, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he is shorter than thomas
so that can only help those throws he makes to our receivers’ shoelaces decrease in frequency
by andyreidswaistline on Apr 17, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
uh, well in thoery, with a taller thomas, he would have had to throw the ball higher… now he will be able to throw the ball lower without plugging his linemen in the back of the head
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
by foos05 on Apr 17, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so he has a more direct route to the receivers feet on short passes … YAY!
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Apr 17, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
rolf
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
by foos05 on Apr 17, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
right
I was thinking of the angle in which the ball is released from the hand with regards to the height of the guy you need to get it over
by andyreidswaistline on Apr 17, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
anyone have a good site for offensive lineman stats I wanted to compare this guy to some of the other players around the league?
by IgglesFanDeployd on Apr 17, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
how could you? The run is obviously gonna be better now and westbrook will be be able to find bigger holes. The D will be totally off guard and off- balanced. It will be much tougher to scheme against a QB that now has a running game.
by Bugzy on Apr 17, 2009 3:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Peters definitely helps the run game.
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Apr 17, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you talking to me? if so, it helps if you use the reply button below the comment you are answering… that way things stay neat and tidy… i’m assuming you were addressing me though… I’m simply uncertain that it will help his accuracy, as i’ve seen him have all of the time in the world and proceed to fire the ball into the ground five yards in front of a wide open receiver
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
by foos05 on Apr 17, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Peters expected to be highest paid LT in the league
by ajay on Apr 17, 2009 3:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well he was asking for 11 mil a year.
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Apr 17, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t believe all 4 of those clowns like the deal.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Apr 17, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
im in Italy stuck on crappy AFN… say anything about a new contract?
by IgglesFanDeployd on Apr 17, 2009 3:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
earliest Friday … supposedly by Sunday
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Apr 17, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN telling me Winston Justice is a bust
Big news…
by ajay on Apr 17, 2009 3:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Trey Wingo
“Osi Umenyiora is the person most sad about this deal.”
by ajay on Apr 17, 2009 3:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL I like Wingo.
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Apr 17, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn't it be great...
If the Bills made a play for Boldin or Edwards now just to piss off the Giants…
by IgglesFanDeployd on Apr 17, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it would be greater if the eagles signed plax!!!!
by Bugzy on Apr 17, 2009 3:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why?
Really, why?
I think “character issues” are overrated, and “chemistry” matters more in basketball, but it’s plain as day on Plax … The Steelers and Giants gave up on him. The guy had 5 traffic stops in a month with a court case pending.
He used to murder us when he was on the Giants, but I think it’s wise to stay away …
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 17, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah i’m sure that pesky jail sentence won’t get in the way of his playing time either… fail…
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
by foos05 on Apr 17, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we got Moreno with the 21st and Coffman with our 2nd round pick id wet myself with joy.
by IgglesFanDeployd on Apr 17, 2009 3:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Me too probably.
I just realized that my Pettigrew/Moreno fantasy now can’t happen.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 17, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wingo:
“If you got rid of Jason Peters because he’s a distraction…you brought in TO!”
by ajay on Apr 17, 2009 3:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wingo usually annoys the crap out of me ...
… with stuff like that (dude, moderate the show, stop trying to be the show), but that’s a solid zinger. :)
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 17, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I say usually ...
… but I actually rarely watch ESPN, it’s like the No. 6 go-to source for football news anymore.
But enough about me and my viewing habits.
Jason Peters!
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 17, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you got rid of Jason Peters because he’s a distraction…you brought in TO!"
we got rid of him because he wanted to get paid more to play in Buffalo than what he was worth to us. I bet you guys get a better deal – he just didn’t want to play for us.
The rest of you go get the goods on Stan. His mom grounded him once for setting something on fire. Let's find out what that something was and then lie and say it was a puppy.
by J2 on Apr 17, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wasnt expecting to wake up and see this at all
NIce pick up though. The 28th pick really didnt have as much value to us as the 21 pick did so im glad the 28th pick is all it took. Now that were set on the offensive line for a few years, we can start rebuilding at running back, wr, safety, and te. I wonder who we will take at 21 now. Im not that big of a moreno fan. Maybe somebody can send me some tape of him to get me on the bandwagon.
by andyb on Apr 17, 2009 3:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wtf are you talking about? “rebuilding at rb, wr, safety and te”? facepalm
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
by foos05 on Apr 17, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just ment those are the players we need to start drafting
Why do you think everyone has been saying we need moreno, pettigrew, boldin, ect. Its not so much rebuilding but we do need to start looking for the rb of the future. One season ending injury for westbrook this year and were screwed.
by andyb on Apr 17, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Screwed?
You must not respect that all-around talent that is Lorenzo Booker!
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 17, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's sad ...
… but I think I should have qualified the above with a
/sarcasm
to prevent the inevitable Lo Booker sucks tangent.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 17, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm waiting to see booker on the cover of madden.
what a talent.
by snowhill82 on Apr 19, 2009 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
def has issues/but has always produced on the field/although hes made a plethra stupid mistakes, his teamates still have nothing bad ever to say/doesnt seem like a locker room distraction to me/hes also better than any other wr out there.
by Bugzy on Apr 17, 2009 3:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
fail
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
by foos05 on Apr 17, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously...
Why is TE a need? Celek is already a league average pass catcher with upside. Also, with our 1700 pound offensive line, do we need to waste a high pick on a blocking TE? I would much rather see a WR/DE in the first round with whichever RB is left in the second.
by Neduol Caz on Apr 17, 2009 3:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
TE is a need ...
… because the depth chart is
1. Celek
2. ___________
3. Schoebel
The idea that taking Pettigrew is a wasted pick, or that there are 6-7 guys who are relatively equal (which you say below) is based on two possibly false premises. One, that Pettigrew is about as good as all the other TEs in the draft, and two, that’s he’s a one-dimensional blocking TE.
I will be the first to admit I didn’t watch a whole bunch of Oklahoma State games, but the reason I think Pettigrew is a need is because he’s a two-dimensional weapon. He can block AND catch.
Celek is a developing weapon in the passing game, no doubt. But the missed block in the Chicago game sounds like its more than just his reputation preceding him. Sounds like he really struggles to block. So why not get a guy who can potentially do both, giving you two weapons in the passing game especially when you go double-tight around the goal line (RED ZONE has been our Achilles’ heel the past two seasons) and a guy who can seal the corner on run plays so we can actually run the ball, and add depth at the position, keep Westbrook/McNabb healthier, and be a weapon in the middle of the field? I don’t particuarly see the downside … except that the other TEs in the draft this year are also well regarded and there are other ways to improve the team with the 21.
That post probably should be broken into a couple posts.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 17, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
your right – i’ve heard him mentioned as the best TE prospect in 5 years and possibly 10 years because he can do both
The rest of you go get the goods on Stan. His mom grounded him once for setting something on fire. Let's find out what that something was and then lie and say it was a puppy.
by J2 on Apr 17, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still think 21 is a reach for Pettigrew … I’m not big on TEs.
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Apr 17, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
9 times out of 10 ...
… I’m not either. But our roster and lack of other holes on it, coupled with the availability of a guy like Pettigrew, has me going against my own grain.
I think I’m in the minority, and that’s fine. I’m not sure i expect it to happen. I’d be good with an RB or a valuable trade-back now. I’ll reserve judgement on the overall roster & overall offseason until training camp begins.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 17, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t be upset with it … but I’d have to see the other options at the time to really know how I’d feel.
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Apr 17, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough.
I’d have to see the other options at the time to really know how I’d feel.
I don’t think the Eagles are locked in to one course of action at this time either. They could still package lower picks to go up, trade the 21 and get more picks (I guess in future years or for other trades), or use the 21 on an RB, TE or (god forbid) another position :)
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 17, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still think 21 is a reach for Pettigrew … I’m not big on TEs.
now you know how we felt when they were saying pettigrew at 11 – no way.
I agree you probably could find better talent – depends on your needs and how they have everyone graded out.
at 28 though we’d love him :)
The rest of you go get the goods on Stan. His mom grounded him once for setting something on fire. Let's find out what that something was and then lie and say it was a puppy.
by J2 on Apr 17, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now that our Tackles are sured up + the fact we brought in Weaver I am less concerned today about the quality of blocking from the TE than I was yesterday
by andyreidswaistline on Apr 17, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good point.
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Apr 17, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is a good point ...
… although I can’t imagine it could hurt.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 17, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
TE is a need purely for depth purposes. Im a fan of Celek as well but I dont know if he is a starting caliber player at that position and neither does anyone else until this year happens.
by IgglesFanDeployd on Apr 17, 2009 3:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Then do we waste a 1st/2nd round pick on TE when it seems to be a position where there are 6-7 guys who are all relatively equal? I say we wait until atleast the third, as there are other positions that can help this team immediately…
by Neduol Caz on Apr 17, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what position besides RB (which may be taken care of in the first round)?
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
by foos05 on Apr 17, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another DE who can rush the passer would really transform the defense, in my opinion.
by Neduol Caz on Apr 17, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
when’s he going to play? since we signed Clemmons to be that thrid down pass rusher guy
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
by foos05 on Apr 17, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he is better than Clemmons/Smith/Howard/Parker, then he will play a lot. The point is to upgrade the position…
by Neduol Caz on Apr 17, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know it sounds crazy but
I wouldn’t mind Rey Maualuga as the MIKE linebacker. I love #55, but he could move over and play the SAM (which was the position he was drafted to play…I think).
"Seriously… F off." JasonB to a Denver fan after Dawk left.
by DownHillBradley on Apr 17, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont think...
The guys that can really contribute at the position will be available in the third round. I say RB in 1 TE in 2. What are the other options? Right now with the O-line all set I think RB and TE are the biggest needs of this team right now. Safety may be an issue but Im pretty solid on Demps and Jones holding down the fort this year and Demps taking over the starting role by next season.
by IgglesFanDeployd on Apr 17, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how intelligent.
says the individual that can’t use a reply button correctly… and i’m trying to consolidate my information regarding Plaxico’s 40 something fines since joining the Giants, arrests, and other issues to demonstrate what kind of a stand up guy and definitely not a distraction he is… i fear, however, that it may need its own dedicated post
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
by foos05 on Apr 17, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As of 9/29/08 Burress played in 50 games for the Giants and had been fined approximately 50 times by the organization for various violations. He has been noted as being publically insubordinate to coaches. He has also been known for his diva-like attitude.
Has also been charged with weapons related charges that carry a three year minimum prison sentence.
He has also been the response target of domestic disturbance and temporary restraining orders have been levied against him.
He has been the subject of atleast nine civil law suits since 2000.
He has also been in trouble with countless moving violations.
Yeah…. regular beacon of fucking pride and joy this guy is. Pass.
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
by foos05 on Apr 17, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Average weight of our O-Lineman
331 pounds
by ajay on Apr 17, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
TIME TO CALL SOME PEOPLE OUT
Or at least provide the links for other people to.
Time to man up and admit where you stood on Peters.
Peters, Bills far apart on new contract – Eagles Mentioned
There may be some others, those were the ones I found so far. The middle one I think is where most of the talk about Peters was not favorable.
I’m not specifically trying to ruin the fun of today for anyone, but (I can’t believe I’m about to say this), Jackassante brought up a good point. There was mixed reaction to the idea of Peters when the idea was first floated … and the wonders of the intergoogle allow us to go back and check.
Personally, without looking, if I had to guess, I’d say I was lukewarm on the idea of Peters, along the lines of how i felt about a WR upgrade … “it’s a luxury, not a need.” Which means I was free to be meh about the idea of adding a T, yet I could still be excited when we did add one.
I thought TE, RB and OL depth were needs in that order.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 17, 2009 3:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think most people today...
Are just happy that the front office did something at all. For me I was afraid we would sit back and watch the Giants sign a #1 from either the Browns or Cardinals. Now I know that no matter what happens this year at the LT position at least our FO was proactive instead of reactive.
by IgglesFanDeployd on Apr 17, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I'm not going to rain on anyone's parade ...
… personally, but I did think those links would be handy to have when it slows down in here again.
I was curious as to what we were all saying at the time. A lot of it was concern for what he might cost, in terms of draft picks and the new contract. Everyone seems satisfied with the trade.
Now let’s wait and see what the new deal is.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 17, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can admit I’m not thrilled about the guy. I like him and he immediately helps our run game. I’m skeptical of his ability in pass protection which we are in a lot but if Andy thinks he can do it then I trust that because Reid knows lineman.
I think this makes our team better and fills a whole and was probably cheaper than moving up into the top of the first round so I can’t really complain.
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Apr 17, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if Andy thinks he can do it then I trust that because Reid knows lineman.
That was definitely a determining factor for me. If Andy were in love with one of the rookies, with all the ammo on the table, the Eagles probably would’ve gone that way.
I think (read: hope) this means the Eagles realize that although it’s cool to get younger and more affordable whenever possible, that they need to go balls-out the next 2 seasons and win one.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 17, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember....
We have a great O-line coach in Juan Castillo who is regarded as one of the best in the business. Im pretty sure Peters will be great at pass blocking as well. If by any means Peters doesn’t pan out. We still got big Andy Reid to line up as LT.
Taking Route 36 will bring you to Touchdown,PHI
by Route36 on Apr 18, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol you called him...
Jackassante
Taking Route 36 will bring you to Touchdown,PHI
by Route36 on Apr 18, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I also would love to trade back from the 21st pick. Perhaps ending up with 3 second round picks (including our own) which would allow us to take one of the top RB’s, one of the top C’s (and trade away Jackson in the process), and one of the top WR/TE’s. I really feel that Jackson is a glaring weakpoint along our offensive line now, and an Alex Mack type would complete the transformation.
by Neduol Caz on Apr 17, 2009 3:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought about trading back ...
… but I thought that might be a discussion for another day.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 17, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yah
that post has already been started…..the what do we do now thread….
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Apr 17, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotcha
some of us have hardly been off this thread, we’re so damn giddy :)
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 17, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
GOTCHA
Now i know that’s not true for you, becasue i came to this because of what you wrote on another post man.
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Apr 17, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if we wanted to snag another pick in the 2nd I wonder if the pats would deal one of their’s for our 3rd and next years 1st…
by andyreidswaistline on Apr 17, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We are now going to move down...
With Peters signed, dont be surprised if we move down into round number 2 for Donald Brown…
by Lee C. on Apr 17, 2009 4:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd back that ...
… but Brown seems to be popping up at the very end of the first round in some mocks. Not that mocks are the end-all, be-all.
I also saw one mock where the Eagles had their choice of Wells, Moreno, Brown and McCoy at 28 … where no RBs had been drafted to that point but all six first-round Ts were gone. Which is not unfathomable.
Maybe it all depends on how things shake out. 21 is a nice spot to be sitting at.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 17, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
First time poster....
…….Super excited about getting peters, solidifies the line for years to come. Now as far as I’m concerned we are one or two weapons away from Super Bowl talk. Here’s a crazy idea, offer the Cards a 1st and 3rd rounder in 2010 and throw in a 3rd rounder this year, totally worth it imo for boldin. Then, when draft day comes around trade away that 21st pick ala what we did last year, that way we ensure we have a 1st rounder next year. Draft a speedster at TE either Ingram or Cook and then pick up a running back in the second.
by djaxftw on Apr 17, 2009 4:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
welcome!
The question in your scenario is would the Cards take a future first- and third-rounder when they can probably demand one of this year’s first-rounders from some team. They’re not that far away either, and potentially would want to send Boldin to the AFC, if anywhere. Sending him to the Eagles or Giants, with the Jets and Ravens in the bidding, doesn’t seem particularly wise.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Apr 17, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tons of great value left at 21 no matter what happens on draft day….I see us taking a skill player of some kind and we’ll have lots of options left for RB’s, WR’s, and TE’s……
Loooooook here brotha'.....who you jivein' with that Cosmic Debris!!!???
by OkieEagle on Apr 17, 2009 4:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oh wow Whodie126 u were right mehn, someone just updated Jason Peter’s wikipedia, tha’s ridiculous. it’s been just a couple of hours already and JP is getting mad love. I think you prolly had something to do dat thou..lol… but no one can argue wit dis move thou, a proven veteran over a possible line men wit da 28th pick(an unproven rookie). gotta love dis move by da FO.
eagles all day err day baby.
by esizzle on Apr 17, 2009 5:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
how is this not the major story on the Eagles website
I was extatic about this news and rushed home to get to my computer to see what the eagles website says and it has nothing on this fantastic move. How? Well he was worth a 1st rounder pick and a fourth and somehing next year. Great move but again I ask how is there nothing on the website about this?
by Gabecm21 on Apr 17, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He still has to pass a physical.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Apr 17, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
because
it would be premature, he’s not inked yet.
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Apr 17, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah apparently the trade is contingent on him passing a physical and signing an extension.
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Apr 17, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess they finally learned their lesson...
Don’t start posting propaganda on the website until the ink is dry. See: Lecharles Bentley, Shawn Springs.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Apr 17, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
at least we know
we`re not getting boldin edwards or ocho now… those threads were getting a little old :)
Representing CANADA eh?
by awat5 on Apr 18, 2009 1:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Eagles FO owns.
- pick seems oddly low for a Pro Bowl LT entering his prime.
The great work of the Eagles FO makes it all the more annoying being a Lions fan.
by Ohpityme on Apr 18, 2009 11:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lions fan?
they exist? i thought that was just an episode of the x-files. go figure.
by snowhill82 on Apr 19, 2009 7:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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