Boldin rumors gaining steam

by JasonB on Apr 16, 2009 1:17 PM EDT in News Comment 37 comments

Yesterday, Arizona Cardinals' coach Ken Whisenhunt made what I considered to be a rather benign statement about the team's situation with disgruntled WR Anquan Boldin.

"Before the draft, you know there is going to be talk about Anquan and his situation and a trade," Whisenhunt said. "Since not a whole lot has changed with his contractual situation, we know that will come back. It would be foolish from out standpoint not to listen to those opportunities and see what actually exists. But I want to make the points -- our goal is to re-sign him to a long-term deal. That hasn't changed."

This isn't different from what Cards' GM Rod Graves has been saying for the past year. However, ESPN's Sal Paolantonio is stoking the fire by reporting that the Cardinals have a set a price for Boldin and that guess who is interested?

ESPN’s Sal Paolantonio reports that the Arizona Cardinals are telling prospective suitors for receiver Anquan Boldin that at least a first-round pick and a third-round pick will be needed to get the deal done.

Per Paolantonio, the Eagles, Giants, Jets, and Ravens have shown interest.

We get these stories every offseason. A WR is rumored to be on the block and the Eagles are supposedly interested. While I have little doubt that Boldin would do great things here... should we believe this rumor more than any other over the past few years?

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The one difference with this rumor is that the Cardinals have openly confirmed they are fielding offers. I am not sure the first and 3rd is more than a rumor at this point. If we could keep our 21st and give up the 28th plus a 3rd, it becomes something that is worth considering in my book. Not sure how feasible it would be to trade some combo of our 4th and 5th rounders to get back into the 3rd round. If we could do that, why not?

by Dawk on Apr 16, 2009 1:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I’m with ya’ on this Dawk…..I’d love it if our FO could get something like that done.

Loooooook here brotha'.....who you jivein' with that Cosmic Debris!!!???

by OkieEagle on Apr 16, 2009 1:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I’d love to have Boldin here. It’s an absolutely perfect fit, and I’d do a 1 and a 3 in a heartbeat.

But with that said, I’d have to think the Cards would be likely to take a slightly lower offer from the Jets, Ravens, or any other interested AFC team than they would from the Eagles or Giants. These aren’t the same old Cardinals anymore. They should have no reason not to believe they can contend again, and I personally feel they’d be crazy to trade a talent like Boldin to a legitimate SB threat like the Eagles.

Also, I love how the asking price is always “a 1 and a 3.” It’s like on the old “Night Court” episodes where the sentence was always “$50 fine and time served.” I apologize – if you’re younger than 28 or so, you have no idea what I’m talking about.

by Bye, Dawk :( on Apr 16, 2009 1:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I e-mailed a friend of mine

with:
a 1, a 3, Reggie Brown…
I’d be willing to throw in a fifth or two…
and

I’d have to think the Cards would be likely to take a slightly lower offer from the Jets, Ravens, or any other interested AFC team than they would from the Eagles or Giants.

This is a very good point

by cavortingEagle on Apr 16, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don’t know. Maybe, but how concerned are teams with a guy still being in the conference? The Cards won’t play the Eagles again for probably 3 years.

I guess it’s possible that they’d take a lower 1st and/or lower 3rd…. but would they really sacrifice rounds just to get Boldin out of the conference?

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by JasonB on Apr 16, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hear ya. I’m not saying they’d accept an overwhelmingly lower offer, but at the very least, I think they’re giving the interested AFC teams every opportunity in the world to match or at least come really close.

by Bye, Dawk :( on Apr 16, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Cutler fallout

had local reporters saying things like this.
Now WR and QB are 2 very different positions for sure, but the general feeling was that given similar deals Denver was going to send Cutler to the NFC rather than AFC…

by cavortingEagle on Apr 16, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Awesome “Night Court” reference! LOL

Loooooook here brotha'.....who you jivein' with that Cosmic Debris!!!???

by OkieEagle on Apr 16, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m only 24 but I know “Night Court” … I watched re-runs on nick at night as a kid

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by Whodie126 on Apr 16, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i’m 24 but i remember Night Court. I’d do the 28th and a 3rd, i wish we could give up 2 5ths and the 28th instead of the 3rd, but if we can deal 2 of our 5th round picks to get back in the 3rd, i’d do it.

by Weapon AxMan85 on Apr 16, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

If It wasnt for those stupid ass cowgirls trading their whole draft for a POS reciever, we could get him cheaper than a 1st and 3rd. A first and one or two 5th round picks sounds more fair to me.

by andyb on Apr 16, 2009 1:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

It really depends on what the FO thinks of this draft class..

If they are already set with either trading up for a OT they really like or staying put and having guys fall into there lap.. IMO it’s really contingent on that… If they are not so high on two players they think they could get in the first round.. I think we at LEAST make an offer for Boldin’s services.

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by TheILLadeph on Apr 16, 2009 2:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

My take/wish

I posted this thought on another thread that looks like it hit a dead end and I was trying to see what you guys think about this, so here goes:

So we trade one of the first rounders and our third, no big deal for a proven star. Then we package some of our later picks (ie some of the 5th rounders) and move back into the 3rd, if possible.

We address WR with Boldin and still have another first rounder to go for RB or O-line stability (I could see maybe a top center or guard). Now we still have our 2nd rounder to go after the position we don’t address with the 1st rounder or possibly a TE (Cook will be there or even Coffman at this point).

Then hopefully trade back up into the 3rd with a package of picks and address whatever our top position of need is at that point (I like Rashad Jennings if we haven’t gone RB and if he’s still there).

From that point on we use picks for depth in the secondary, LB, and O-line (we still have enough that we could package later picks to move up into 4th and/or 5th rounds to get higher quality players).

by Scotty Laf on Apr 16, 2009 2:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Try to stay with me on this one...

Last year we traded our #1 (19th overall) to the Panthers – used to select Jeff Otah (who we probably would have taken if we used our pick) for…

- This year’s 2nd #1 (28th overall)
- a 2 (43rd overall), which was traded with a 5 (152nd overall) to the Vikings for…
- a 2 (47th overall) – used to select Trevor Laws
- a 4 (117th overall) – used to select Quintin Demps
- a 4 (109th overall) – used to select Mike McGlynn

So, if we can somehow make a deal that most would regard as “too much” – let’s call it a 1, a 3, and a 5 for Boldin… then we will have essentially made the following deal…

- Jeff Otah
- a 3rd rounder
- (2) 5th rounders (one was last year, one this year)

FOR…

- Anquan Boldin
- Trevor Laws
- Quintin Demps
- Mike McGlynn

GET IT DONE, FO!!!

by Bye, Dawk :( on Apr 16, 2009 2:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Reggie Brown

We also have Reggie Brown to throw out there. I know we are all pretty down on him but a change of scenery along with playing alongside Fitz and Breaston, he might look pretty good. Part of his problem here is that he was expected to be our #1 guy and faced the best a defense had to offer. Not the case when Fitz is on the other side of you. So, maybe AZ is willing to consider less when Reggie is part of the equation?

by Dawk on Apr 16, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree...

Obviously, last year was bad (and to be fair, he was hurt), but he had 780 yards in ‘07 and 816 in ’06, so it’s not like he’s worthless. I’m sure there are some teams out there that could be mildly intrigued… and like you said, being able to operate alongside Fitz and Breaston, (as well as give their young WR’s Early Doucet and Jereme Urban some competition for the 3rd spot), the Cards would seem to be a nice fit.

I think a concern some teams might have with Brown though, is that as a 4th WR, he’d have to play special teams, and I have to plead ignorance on knowing whether or not he can.

by Bye, Dawk :( on Apr 16, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jason Smith

I don’t know who posts this stuff but Jason Smith regarded as the top OL in the draft is in Philly today meeting with Eagles team execs. We may be moving up because that’s the 2nd OL thats predicted to go top 5 or 10 that’s come to town, the other being Eugene Monroe.

by Weapon AxMan85 on Apr 16, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Interesting...

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by JasonB on Apr 16, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

hmmm

wonder if there is any possibiltity of giving up only 1st rounder and some 4rd, 5th and some of next year to go up. so that way we can get boldin our other 28th pick?

by Metang3 on Apr 16, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=9&c=2&cid=857092&nid=3934900&fhn=1

There’s the link.

by Weapon AxMan85 on Apr 16, 2009 2:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I wonder....

If the FO of other teams pay attention to these rumors too. I mean according to sources the Giants are in the process of closing out the Braylon Edwards deal so how do the Browns feel about the Giants being mentioned in a Boldin trade rumor? Think they put any stock in that kind of stuff or blow it off as just hearsay like the rest of us?

by IgglesFanDeployd on Apr 16, 2009 2:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, I mean that is basically how it goes it’s pretty safe to say Joe and Tom have never actually said “we are interested in Boldin” It’s all speculation like many of you all say.. we have been linked to every WR that has a chance of becoming available. I really hope we can get a deal done I can see a 1st 3rd and Reggie..

DeSEAN JACKSON THE ONE

by TheILLadeph on Apr 16, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think they absolutely listen. The Browns can’t be too happy right now. It has all of a sudden really become a buyer’s market for WR’s.

by Bye, Dawk :( on Apr 16, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Pull the trigger FO….

DeSEAN JACKSON THE ONE

by TheILLadeph on Apr 16, 2009 2:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I don't think they'll make a move

until the draft, if at all.

Saving the picks until the draft give us ammo to move up to draft a OL if we need to. If the guys we want go early I can then see us hitting the phones hard trying to get a deal done with the Cards.

by Screen Name 20 on Apr 16, 2009 3:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I would love to have Boldin linup up on the other side of Desean Jackson but I have learned not to get my hopes up.

by The Legend on Apr 16, 2009 3:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

it's been said before.

12 draft picks? something’s gotta give.

by snowhill82 on Apr 16, 2009 5:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Maybe I’m a silly Willy but I don’t think Boldin would fit the Giants offense as well as he would fit ours. I think Braylon Edwards would be a better fit for the Giants, but wouldn’t be a great fit here. Anyone know what I’m talking about?

I just think with our QB and WRs, Boldin fits in better here, and the guys they have in NY would pair better with Edwards.

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by yomjoseki on Apr 16, 2009 5:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I agree with you...

I think the Eagles need that underneath WR that gets YAC over the middle and the Giants need the Plaxico replacement – the big WR that is good down the field and can catch the terrible deep ball thrown by Eli…

by PoppiDamus on Apr 16, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

3 star wideouts are getting traded

Ocho Cinco, Boldin, and Edwards. Any of these three would make us 2 wins better. 4 teams are seriously looking for a star wideout. Eagles, Giants, Jets, and Ravens. Out of 4 teams Eagles have the most ammo to get them. I say our chances are looking really good for nabbing one of the three. And please nobody start complaining about Ocho Cinco’s character or Edward’s drops. They would instantly make us a top 4 team(record wise) in the NFL. I believe the Eagles are the best team in the NFL every year lol.

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by Route36 on Apr 16, 2009 6:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

please, please, please get boldin! we would be amazing if we got him!

by eaglesinmd on Apr 16, 2009 7:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Do the Eagles need a WR ?

Umm ..YES.
Its not their greatest need….OL is…but it IS right up there. Everyone saying we are OK with Desean and Kevin and Jason…well we had those guys in the Arizona game against a less than spectacular secondary…how did that work out ? Our wideouts are good…not great. Having a dominant WR will open up everything for everyone.
Having said that…the Eagles dont give up a one and a three for anyone. Never have never will….every now and then you need to gamble a little…Do we want to winn now or do we want to be 10-6 for the next five years ? I say mortgage some of the future now to go for it all. Will the Eagles do it ? …nah….I doubt it. Lets just continue to run westbrook into the ground and expect mcnabb to win the game throwing 40 times a game to a good receiving core….not a great one. I can see the headline now…“Our WR’s are fine”…..yes they are fine…but spectacular may get us over the hump.

by Gdog2009 on Apr 16, 2009 8:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

with Boldin, Edwards and OchoCinco

on the table i do not see how the Eagles could not come away with a trade for a WR. There have been two minds all offseason regarding trading for a #1 WR we dont need one and we need one. I believe we don’t have to get one but with three great WR available to at least bid on how can the FO not pull the trigger on one of them. Im not saying sell the farm to get one but a 1st 3rd and maybe reggie for Boldin seems fair, a 3rd and a fifth or another combination for Edwards or Ocho should get the job done maybe go up but i dont think either player would be worth more than a second at best. I cant stand the fact that the asking price for Edwards is a 1st and a 3rd he is not worth that but if they can low ball it spring for it. Yet I really like Ocho he wants to be in philly the ammount of picks needed to get him has hit rock bottom compared to last years offer of two first round picks and I think he can still be a top 3 WR in the league. I think of it this way could the Eagles find a WR later in the draft that would give as much production as any of the WR available that have proven to be great WR. I would argue given the eagles track record of making the choices they have at drafting a WR they need to get a proven vet not hope later in the draft they can find one that may be good someday. I would also think that a trade for jason peters would be fantastic to me it would be even better than a trade for a WR because he would fill a hole and that is what free agency and the draft is all about but WR can be upgraded thats why I feel they need to trade for one ASAP. well thats my piece I hope something will get done before the draft because I cant stand it any more. I want to know what the Eagles will be working with next year

by Gabecm21 on Apr 16, 2009 9:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

thoughtful post but,

I personally don’t see the eagles going after any of these 3 receivers… personal opinion

Representing CANADA eh?

by awat5 on Apr 17, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

As much as I love Boldin

He’s probably worth the 1st and 3rd OR the 10 Mil a year.

If we have to give both… ugh – tough call

by andyreidswaistline on Apr 16, 2009 11:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Maybe Sal heard something was brewing with the Eagles ...

… and he guessed Boldin instead of Peters.

I don’t even want to think about how nuts everybody would go if we traded our OTHER first-rounder plus picks for Boldin.

I should apologize now for mentioning it. :)

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Apr 17, 2009 2:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Crazy, but it's not totally out of the question.

If you think about it, let say it takes our 1 and 3… We’d STILL have 8 draft picks. Granted, we’d only have one pick in the first 4 rounds, but imagine that team!

by Bye, Dawk :( on Apr 17, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs