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Listening to Mike and Mike this morning and John Clayton said that the Eagles have too many picks and too much cap room to not make something big happen.  He said that the Eagles are going after Jason Peters (LT, Buffalo) who wants a new contract, and may still have Anquan Boldin on their radar.

Getting Peters would no doubt be a HUGE upgrade and big time signing.  Not sure we will get Boldin, but that does not mean there are no future moves coming.

Just wanted to report what I heard.

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Interesting

Didn’t see the report, but I’ve heard Peters’ name attached to us in the past. He’s definitely been demanding a new contract for awhile in Buffalo and hasn’t gotten it. But what would this require via trade?

by ajay on Mar 10, 2009 9:53 AM EDT reply actions  

CORRECTION TO ABOVE ARTICLE!!!

i also heard what Clayton said on Mike and Mike in the morning and he DIDN’T say that the Eagles “are going after Jason Peters” he said that the Eagles may be INTERESTED in Peters……two completely different things!!! So I agree with foos05 with what he said below….the FO has a plan but until they actually pull something off don’t get your hopes up. No need to yet at this time.

That being said I’d really like to see something huge happen during the draft involving a trade.

by slandog on Mar 10, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno. I heard that the Bills and Peters are hammering out a contract… one that would make him the highest paid player on their team. could be wrong though

"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel

by foos05 on Mar 10, 2009 10:05 AM EDT reply actions  

yeah well if that was me and my team just signed TO I would be running away … fast.

"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"

by Whodie126 on Mar 10, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

truth… how about Trent Edwards saying he wasn’t planning to talk to any of the clown’s former teammates to try to find out the truth about him… good strategy

"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel

by foos05 on Mar 10, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

he probably already knows

Talking to his old teammates would bring out bad TO. He probably is trying his hardest not to open pandora’s box.

It took my two years to come up with an avatar and sig
and this is the best I could come up with.

by einman77 on Mar 10, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to be debbie downer here, but let’s just see what happens. Don’t get to ramped up for something monumental to happen incase it doesn’t. We see the situation, and yes given the facts, it seems that the next logical step would be some kind of big move. But we know this team has an agenda and sticks to it. I’m just saying, I’m optomistic as well, but I’m not going to sell out and set myself up for disappointment… at least not yet… lol.

"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel

by foos05 on Mar 10, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m just saying, I’m optomistic as well, but I’m not going to sell out and set myself up for disappointment… at least not yet… lol.

i save that for the regular season, haha

by eagleyosh on Mar 10, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think this all goes down as another Moss (we almost got him) story.

We seem to have so many every year, I thought we were gettin Larry last year when we cut Spikes. But never ever came through, I am not optomistic, I think they want us to think they are close, but may have no intentions on doing anything.

City of Champions!

by yophillybro on Mar 10, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I never believed we were getting Fitz … that would have been the dumbest thing ever by the Cards.

"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"

by Whodie126 on Mar 10, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't they just sign

Warner to a 2 year $25 million

and wasnt it something like 22 million in guarantees

by NickPampani on Mar 10, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah some craziness like that

"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel

by foos05 on Mar 10, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

you gotta love the vibe.....

love it…. dumped a wr, clearing up cap space, and tons of picks… great way to get make that splash in the FA market that we and mcnabb have been asking for….. love it

by mcnizzle on Mar 10, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

your madden team is gonna be sick mcnizzle

by andyreidswaistline on Mar 10, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

pretty sure your the only one worried about madden…

i want a ring before kolb attempts playing qb

by mcnizzle on Mar 10, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

i seem to think that our friend waisty was being, how you say, a smart ass, no?

"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel

by foos05 on Mar 10, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

the free agent market that has long since dried up?

"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel

by foos05 on Mar 10, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

They really screwed up that Jason Brown deal.

He said he would have signed he, but the Eagles couldn’t make the call on time. That sucks, imagine how our line would be right now.
LT-Herremans, LG-Brown, C-J Jax, RG- Sh. Andrews, RT- St. Andrews,
Back ups,
LT-Dunlap, LG-N Cole, C-MgGlynn, RG-MJG, RT-Dunbar (or mid round T).

City of Champions!

by yophillybro on Mar 10, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hadn't heard that one before
He said he would have signed he, but the Eagles couldn’t make the call on time.

Ugh.

Then again, sometimes the best signings are the ones you miss out on, right LeCharles?

by D3Keith on Mar 10, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

great way to get make that splash in the FA market that we and mcnabb have been asking for

Still waiting for you to provide this quote from McNabb. And please don’t speak for me I’m generally happy with what the Eagles have done, it’s only March.

"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"

by Whodie126 on Mar 10, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

pretty sure you are in the minority

the majority of eagles fans know this era is closing and a big play reciever will only help our chances… you just have personal issues it seems with the organization if you cant see that. why else would mcnabb hold off on his contract talks but to see what we do for our next yr or two in FA???? you should just probably drop the negative comments, i know i am tired of it and i am sure there are others.

by mcnizzle on Mar 10, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

where’s the quote saying he’s the one holding off on the talks? maybe the Birds are the ones not talking right now. you don’t know… i don’t know… just because whodie doesn’t share your opinion that our biggest need is a wr doesn’t mean he has some kind of “personal issues with the organization”. I still want to know what “splash in the FA” market we’re gearing up for.

how is this a negative comment?

And please don’t speak for me I’m generally happy with what the Eagles have done, it’s only March.

he actually says he’s happy…

"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel

by foos05 on Mar 10, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Earth

you should visit every once in a while.

It took my two years to come up with an avatar and sig
and this is the best I could come up with.

by einman77 on Mar 10, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

here u go... i dont know how any other way you can take this..

ESPN reports that a meeting between Eagles brass and Donovan McNabb went well, and that the veteran QB will wait to see what moves the team makes this offseason before asking for a new contract or a trade. The Eagles have said they have every intention of keeping McNabb. - what else to you guys want???

by mcnizzle on Mar 10, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I want to see where the quote from McNabbs mouth is. You can’t supply it because he never said it. Michael Smith reported that a “source” told him this (ever heard of the game whisper down the lane). Call me crazy but I don’t believe things just because someone says it’s true I wait to hear it from the original source or see it for myself so until McNabb comes out and says it I don’t buy it.

Isn’t it much more likely that the organization and McNabb decided to hold off on contract talks so that the Eagles could FOCUS on free agency and the draft instead of being distracted by negotiations with a player that is already signed. This is the media spinning the news to their benefit in a slow time.

Our biggest need is not a WR, we tried this once and we still didn’t win a Superbowl.

"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"

by Whodie126 on Mar 10, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

what he said

"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel

by foos05 on Mar 10, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

my point exactly...

we were in the superbowl… playing the pat’s at the peek of there game and we almost won that game. i can remember quite a few nfc games where a big play by a wr would have put us in the super bowl.

14-3 vs carolina and 29-24 vs the rams just to name a few

by mcnizzle on Mar 10, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

your point is weak.

you realize that TO didn’t play in any of the playoff games leading to the Superbowl that year … We got there on the back of Greg Lewis. We were in the NFCCG the 3 years before so he really didn’t make any difference only we won but HE DIDN"T PLAY.

So this Superstar stud WR that was suppose to get us over the top wasn’t even there and it turns out we didn’t need him. Yea he got a lot of yards in the Superbowl but total yards don’t win games total points do.

"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"

by Whodie126 on Mar 10, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

...

we made the nfccg 5 times in 8 yrs and 1 superbowl appearance… not a good percentage to base your argument on…

+1 !?

by mcnizzle on Mar 10, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

how is that relevant?

we made the nfccg 5 times in 8 yrs and 1 superbowl appearance… not a good percentage to base your argument on…

You’re argument is that the 1 Superbowl we went to we had a stud WR but he didn’t play in either playoff game leading to the Superbowl … he was a non factor.

If “the player” had helped us beat the Vikings or the Falcons or the Pats I would probably agree with you but considering he didn’t I don’t see how a Big Time WR will solve all of our problems.

He didn’t help us win … you need to get your facts straight homey.

"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"

by Whodie126 on Mar 10, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

what was the 1 difference in that playoff run???

WE WERE PLAYING AT HOME THE WHOLE PLAYOFF RUN WITH A BYE…. WHICH TO DEF. HELPED US GET….. YOUR WRONG FRIEND I AM RIGHT

by mcnizzle on Mar 10, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

WE WERE PLAYING AT HOME THE WHOLE PLAYOFF RUN WITH A BYE…

HAHA now I know you’re an idiot … we had first round byes and home field in 02 and 03 too … wow, at least you make me laugh.

"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"

by Whodie126 on Mar 10, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok on futher review

your right 02 and 03 we did have homefield i forgot those glorious days of fed-ex catching 4-26.. your right bout that but still gimme break whodie… a big play reciever will or will not help us in tight game situations with an ageing 5 … just a yes or no question and then we can stop this banter

by mcnizzle on Mar 10, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

mcnizzle cracks me up

The cliff notes to his cumulative posts are as follows: mcnabb is unhappy, sign housh!, the window is closing, sign housh!, sign marvin!, trade for boldin, eff the FO for not signing housh!, trade for gonzo, make a splash, grammar error, spelling error, grammar error, make mcnabb happy!

by andyreidswaistline on Mar 10, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

correction i never said sign gonzo, but

but since this past years playing calling and the movement of players i am fed up..

by mcnizzle on Mar 10, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha! I just read that whole argument. Made my morning. Sorry mcnizzle but you should really stop… you are getting owned.

+1 Whodie…. especially referring to “the player” as “the player”

by jvoelks on Mar 11, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I will concede that we need a definitive red zone threat. Does is have to be a big play WR … no it doesn’t. I personally think Celek can be that guy.

Our Wide outs are talented enough to move the ball between the 20s they proved that last year. We need help inside the 20, any number of things will help this. A healthy OLine, a fullback, a blocking TE, a Bruiser RB, or a Change of Pace RB will all improve our red zone offense more then a big play WR IMHO.

"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"

by Whodie126 on Mar 10, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

In this offense I think the big play WR would be nice...

While not a necessity, I think the big play WR would make a big improvement – we had a good OL, we had a blocking TE (Schobel – didn’t play much), we had a change of pace RB that is not a bruiser but more so than BWest (Buckhalter – didn’t play much)…what makes you think that will change (as much as you and I would like it to) with different players in the same roles…

by PoppiDamus on Mar 11, 2009 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

The larger picture...

…is pretty basic: The Eagles have $40+ million dollars left and 12 draft picks. Do you think they really make no more moves (either through free agency or trades) and draft 12 players? That would surprise me.

by ajay on Mar 10, 2009 10:31 AM EDT reply actions  

yeah i think they

trade a forth round pick for another RB that was rejected by the wort team in fooball.

Who is the lions 3rd RB?

by NickPampani on Mar 10, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Booker was not rejected by the Dolphins. It’s just that the new regime came in and saw their way of things. Booker had looked fairly good at times in the 2nd half of 2007, and a 4th round pick for a guy who had been a 2nd round pick the year before was a steal.

Besides, can we not give up on Booker yet? He’s been in the league for 2 years. One of the worst things about the modern NFL versus the older NFL is that it used to be that players had a few years to prove themselves. Now if they’re not pro bowlers by their second year, they’re terrible.

by wildcatlh on Mar 10, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

not quite

The Booker Deal did look great at the time but in retrospect he really was a bust for us and i will by no means want him as Westbrooks backup.

He came in and was supposed to be a carbon copy of Westy but when the time came to play on the field it appeared he worsened from his rookie year. He couldnt break a tackle and couldnt get into space. it would of been nice if he worked out but he didnt last year and this year we are all assuming we are going to draft a RB and why would we spend a high pick on a 3rd rb

by NickPampani on Mar 10, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

i dunno if i can pass that kind of judgement from 26 total touches…

"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel

by foos05 on Mar 10, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

no but ill tell you i wouldnt be confident in giving him the 2nd rb spot

by NickPampani on Mar 10, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

why did he only get 26 touches

he was so high on the eagles board when he ws drafted and we obviously wanted him thats why we traded for him. Why only 26 touches?

by NickPampani on Mar 10, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

because he was behind Brian Westbrook and Buckhalter… Buck didn’t even get enough touches… i think this cat was a two year project… give him one more… they knew buck was gone

"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel

by foos05 on Mar 10, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Unless they draft a RB...

Then he will still be 3rd on the depth chart most likely…

by PoppiDamus on Mar 10, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, I agree

The jury is still out on both him and Kolb in my mind. They haven’t had a real chance to prove themselves.

With that said, are the Eagles just notoriously bad (in the Andy Reid era) and gaging running back talent? Granted we got Westbrook, but he was kind of a lucky pick with a 6th rounder, nobody expected him to become what he was. Bucky was good, but under-utilized…I guess Moats wasn’t terrible, but we obviously didn’t see a role for him. Then we get into the Tony Hunt debacle, and now we seem unsure of Booker. I just don’t get how the Cowboys can come away with Felix Jones and Tashard Choice (2 guys able to carry the load) in one draft, and we’re still trying to find a single back-up

"What did it feel like? That collision, I ­didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs

by jalarsen1 on Mar 10, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

at gaging running back talent

"What did it feel like? That collision, I ­didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs

by jalarsen1 on Mar 10, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Westbrook was a 3rd rounder.

"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"

by Whodie126 on Mar 10, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

you can’t he only got 26 touches the Eagles must not like him … Bucky only got 76 touches and he was averaging 5 yards a carry

"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"

by Whodie126 on Mar 10, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

He was...

…a third rounder the year before, but still good value (a 4th for a 3rd).

by ajay on Mar 10, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

At the time...

It seemed like good value, but if we draft or pick up another RB to be BWest’s backup and Booker doesn’t play, than it won’t be of any value…unless he can contribute on special teams…

by PoppiDamus on Mar 10, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

im not saying this is what they are going to do...

as much as we all love westbrook i think we have to come to the realization the he only has 2-4 yrs left in the tank and you know how the eagles like to get rid of guys beforeor as the tank goes empty. if groomed properly booker could replace the role westy has in the next couple years. also should something happen to westbrook and we do draft a big back as the #2 guy then booker would make it possible to not have to change our game play that much. also i cant see letting desean return kicks for to much longer as we would want to injure him so he might see time as a PR/KOR. Just some thoughts.

by mgrisez on Mar 10, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Should also be noted

The Eagles were interested in drafting Booker that year, the Dolphins just beat them to the punch. Booker had ALOT of trouble picking up the blitz this year, his inability to block the oncoming blitzer kept him off the field more than any other factor.

Look at Westbrook, how much playing time did he get his first couple of years. Rarely does a rookie or someone wet behind the ears come into the Eagles offense and make a difference. Obviously, the offense takes a while to pick up, so let’s hold off on passing judgment and give Booker a chance.

by willydick71 on Mar 10, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

but..

…would you be surprised if this team was left with holes again by Reid. Let’s see.. a fullback isn’t important, and a blocking tight end..nah, don’t need that..punt returner..anyone could do that…Sound familiar??

Marc Gross

by phillyfansportstalk on Mar 10, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

very nice said

Also, I think I have seen all of Booker’s carries. He doesn’t make the first guy miss. Ever. If you are that small, you have to be able to slip tackles. Its not something you learn when you are 24 or 25. Booker is a 3rd rb on every other team in the league, except ours.

www.okupy.com

by royboy on Mar 10, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

all I will say is I will be shocked if I see the Eagles select 12 players come the end of April.

"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"

by Whodie126 on Mar 10, 2009 10:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Damn HowieB ...

first post and it makes the front page … welcome.

"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"

by Whodie126 on Mar 10, 2009 10:34 AM EDT reply actions  

I know, right?

Maybe he could be our new LT.

by ajay on Mar 10, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"

by Whodie126 on Mar 10, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

thanks for the welcome. I just hope my Eagles will do something BIG!

by HowieB on Mar 10, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

That O Line would be sick though

T Peters
G Herremans
C Jackson
G Andrews
T Andrews

by damonmoore43 on Mar 10, 2009 10:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Had to go look up some info on Peters. This is good sign:

According to ESPN.com, Jason Peters is the 2nd highest rated left tackle in the video game Madden 2009 with a 97 rating (Joe Thomas is 1st). Peters was rated an 87 in the 2008 version.

by jhavrk8 on Mar 10, 2009 10:54 AM EDT reply actions  

video game Madden

Lost any credibility right there. According to foos05.com, foos has only lost 2 games on Madden video game franchise since 2000. It’s a travesty that he isn’t at the helm of an NFL franchise as we speak!

"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel

by foos05 on Mar 10, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

well

i have a great idea lets all go play madden and see what it will take to trade for peters and bolding

by NickPampani on Mar 10, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

LIKE AN IDIOT

i actually typed in foos05.com

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!!!!!

by 700 Level on Mar 10, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

great

now i dont have to

by NickPampani on Mar 10, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

bahahaha…. get anything?

"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel

by foos05 on Mar 10, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"

by Whodie126 on Mar 10, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good video game research

Here’s the scoop with Peters. He was rated the best young LT in the game coming in to last season. Drew “fan favorite” Rosenhouse told the guy to hold out. He did, and he got destroyed all last season. He came up from nowhere (undrafted I believe), then became a pro bowl pick, and last season started to show a lot of inconsistancy. Who knows what the hold out did to the guy, but he is suseptable to Rosengoshiating, not a good trait. This trade probably won’t pan out unless the Bills see Peters and his boy Drew as a big pain not worth the headache, and they can get someone who slipped (Smith?) or someone they rate highly (Oher) as an upgrade or at least equal to Peters. Peters is in the last year of his contract, and if he thinks Buffalo is holding out, would probably move on after that. They would also likely have to be reaching at the #11 spot to move back to #21 (if the first pick is a wash for a trade to cover a position that they already had covered before the trade). Then the Eagles would have to give up compensation. Who knows if it can even happen? The Vikings and Chiefs pulled off something similar last season, when the Chiefs gave up Allen drafted Dorsey, then took the Vikings #17 (I think) pick and a couple of third rounders. With 12 picks, the Eagles could pull that off. They could also afford to give him a 10M/year contract which he is looking for. It all depends if both teams can see the rewards over the losses.

It took my two years to come up with an avatar and sig
and this is the best I could come up with.

by einman77 on Mar 10, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bills invested the time and effort to convert him from a TE to LT and was a total d!ck when they didn’t fold to his outrageous demands. He even closed communication lines when it became clear they weren’t going to pay him like the top LT in the game.

by andyreidswaistline on Mar 11, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

So are you saying his price tag is lower?

Or are you saying that you don’t need another Rosenhouse guy on the team?

It took my two years to come up with an avatar and sig
and this is the best I could come up with.

by einman77 on Mar 11, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

except Peters’ agent isn’t Drew Rosenhaus….

~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"

by Kurupt on Mar 11, 2009 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's what I get for making a generalization

Who would it be then?

It took my two years to come up with an avatar and sig
and this is the best I could come up with.

by einman77 on Mar 11, 2009 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Eugene Parker, just as big of a turd.

~K
"I’m Kurupt with Buffalo Rumblings. I am worth hundreds!"

by Kurupt on Mar 11, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

apparently

Ugh, there’s more than one of them out there. Someone needs to kill them both before they start spewing their spores and reproducing.

It took my two years to come up with an avatar and sig
and this is the best I could come up with.

by einman77 on Mar 11, 2009 3:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Here’s some real NFL info before anyone else starts hanging their hat on Madden ratings.

2008 Sacks allowed by LT’s

1. Ryan Clady (Broncos) 0.5 sacks allowed (16 starts)
2. Michael Roos (Titans) 1.0 sacks allowed (16 starts) PRO-BOWL
3. Tra Thomas (Eagles) 2.0 sacks allowed (16 starts)
3. Orlando Pace (Rams) 2.0 sacks allowed (14 starts)
5. Jake Long (Dolphins) 2.5 sacks allowed (16 starts)
6. Jordan Gross (Panthers) 3.0 sacks allowed (15 starts) PRO-BOWL
6. Jammal Brown (Saints) 3.0 sacks allowed (15 starts)
6. Jared Gaither (Ravens) 3.0 sacks allowed (15 starts)
6. Marcus McNeill (Chargers) 3.0 sacks allowed (14 starts)
6. Tony Ugoh (Colts) 3.0 sacks allowed (12 starts)
6. Chris Samuels (Redskins) 3.0 sacks allowed (12 starts) PRO-BOWL
6. Todd Weiner (Falcons) 3.0 sacks allowed (11 starts)
13. Walter Jones (Seahawks) 3.5 sacks allowed (12 starts) PRO-BOWL
14. D’Brickashaw Ferguson (Jets) 4.0 sacks allowed (16 starts)
14. Bryant McKinnie (Vikings) 4.0 sacks allowed (12 starts)
14. Max Starks (Steelers) 4.0 sacks allowed (11 starts)
17. Joe Thomas (Browns) 4.5 sacks allowed (16 starts) PRO-BOWL
17. Branden Albert (Cheifs) 4.5 sacks allowed (15 starts)
19. Levi Brown (Bengals) 5.5 sacks allowed (11 starts)
20. Mike Gandy (Cardinals) 6.25 sacks allowed (16 starts)
21. David Diehl (Giants) 6.5 sacks allowed (16 starts)
22. Flozell Adams (Cowboys) 7.25 sacks allowed (16 starts)
23. Khalif Barnes (Jags) 7.5 sacks allowed (16 starts)
23. Matt Light (Pats) 7.5 sacks allowed (16 starts)
23. Chad Clifton (Packers) 7.5 sacks allowed (15 starts)
23. Kwame Harris (Raiders) 7.5 sacks allowed (11 starts)
27. Joe Staley (49ers) 8.5 sacks allowed (16 starts)
28. Donald Penn (Bucs) 8.5 sacks allowed (16 starts)
29. Jeff Backus (Lions) 9.25 sacks allowed (16 starts)
30. John St. Clair (Bears) 9.75 sacks allowed (16 starts)
31. Duane Brown (Texans) 11.5 sacks allowed (16 starts)
31. Jason Peters (Bills) 11.5 sacks allowed (13 starts) PRO-BOWL

by andyreidswaistline on Mar 10, 2009 11:09 AM EDT reply actions  

ProBowl nominations are sometimes equally worthless to Madden ratings

by andyreidswaistline on Mar 10, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Probably worth at least side noting that Herremans allowed 0.75 sacks at LG in 15 starts.

by andyreidswaistline on Mar 10, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

so wait. Peters is the worst LT in football?

by Clyde Simmons on Mar 10, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

not exactly.

How was his run blocking

who was on the opposit side Tacckel because if he wasnt that good they would send the better D end to him

wonplayed next to him?

by NickPampani on Mar 10, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Only if you go by sacks allowed, which is a pretty telling statistic in my eyes.

He also held out all of camp, all of preseason and the first few games of the season as part of his bargaining tactic for a new contract. Not the type of guy I’m ready to fall head over heels for.

by andyreidswaistline on Mar 10, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good stat...

but what about run blocking…or your QB holding the ball too long…or your QB breaking tackles…

by PoppiDamus on Mar 10, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you’re Andy Reid are you looking for a pass protection LT or a run blocking LT?

Pretty obvious…

by andyreidswaistline on Mar 10, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Except...

Stacey Andrews ranked 30th among RTs…Plus these numbers were pulled off of a message board if i’m not mistaken, don’t know how reliable…

by PoppiDamus on Mar 10, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

It IS true that Thomas only let up 3

but an Eagles source on WIP said they gave him decent help last year. Those stats are not telling at all. If they were, he would’ve been signed a lot faster and had more interest.

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!

by Joe_D on Mar 10, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Like I said – take the stat for what’s it’s worth. It’s not the end all be all.

Player notes on Peters from usatoday.com

 Mar. 1, 2009 – 1:33 p.m. ET
 
The Bills have entered contract negotiations with LT Jason Peters.
 
Peters held out through training camp last year and had possibly the worst season of his career, but Buffalo still considers him a building block. The 27-year-old remains one of the most physically gifted tackles in the game.
 
Source: Buffalo News
 
 Jan. 2, 2009 – 12:08 p.m. ET
 
Buffalo’s Jason Peters gave up more sacks than any starting left tackle in the league in 2008.
 
His 11.5 sacks allowed came in only 13 games because he missed three with various injuries after a training camp holdout. He was even worse than fellow turnstile LTs Jeff Backus, Khalif Barnes, Kwame Harris, Max Starks, and Levi Jones. Peters has very little leverage if he still wants that raise.
 
Source: Palm Beach Post
 
 Dec. 26, 2008 – 1:30 p.m. ET
 
Bills LT Jason Peters (knee) is not expected to play in Week 17.
 
He’s officially doubtful on the injury report. Peters received a Pro Bowl bid in 2008, but did not remotely deserve it over Ryan Clady after a miserable season on Trent Edwards’ blind side. Peters still wants a contract extension, but the Bills hold all the cards. They have him under contract through 2010.
 
Source: buffalobills.com

by andyreidswaistline on Mar 10, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Still doesn't explain the excitement over Andrews...

Andrews was 30th in the league at RT with 9.5 sacks allowed, so why are we all excited about him…

by PoppiDamus on Mar 10, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

3 reasons

He still has alot of upside

Athletes play better when family is around

Shawn is depressed dont you think having his brother around will help him become better and get back to a playing state of mind

by NickPampani on Mar 10, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Andy knows lineman.

I trust Andy when it comes to lineman 100%. And like Nick said anything to keep Shawn happy and on the field.

"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"

by Whodie126 on Mar 10, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

You could list any # of reasons that Peters had a bad year last year too...

I also think Andrews is a good pickup and also trust Andy on the O-Line…All I’m saying is that if he is going after Peters, these stats don’t in and of themselves make it a bad pickup…

by PoppiDamus on Mar 10, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

very true … actually I’m willing to bet the hold out is what hurt Peters. From listening to the Eagles lineman over the years it’s tough for them to sit out of camp and be read for the season.

"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"

by Whodie126 on Mar 10, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

see: Andrews, Shawn (related article: injury)

"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel

by foos05 on Mar 10, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

The same stat is the reason someone would drool over Peters.

I believe he only allowed two sacks in 2007.

by andyreidswaistline on Mar 10, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

so you’re telling me that Madden isn’t an accurate representation of real football?!?!? be still my heart

"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel

by foos05 on Mar 10, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

thanks!

Great job bringing actual data to the playing field!

"What did it feel like? That collision, I ­didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs

by jalarsen1 on Mar 10, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

If we land Peters

We’ll be sick

Maybe next year

by awat5 on Mar 10, 2009 2:14 PM EDT reply actions  

is he contageous? if that’s the case, we better quarantine him until it subsides.

"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel

by foos05 on Mar 10, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

ba dum pshh

"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"

by Whodie126 on Mar 10, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

100th comment

that is all

"Now Sav Rocca played for the Magpies in Australia. I don't know if it's a bird or a pie or what it is." Ike Reese

by The Badassador on Mar 10, 2009 6:28 PM EDT reply actions  

this era is closing?
the majority of eagles fans know this era is closing

Besides McNabb & Westbrook, I disagree.

That’s two key pieces for certain, but the rest of the team is young, under contract and has the look of a contender for years to come.

by D3Keith on Mar 11, 2009 12:01 AM EDT reply actions  

The FO has done a good job...

Rebuilding the defense, and re-tooling many pieces on the offense with young players while remaining competitive…

by PoppiDamus on Mar 11, 2009 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Eagles FO has kept our team very young. I don’t follow every team but I don’t know if there are many teams any younger than ours.

Very late comment. I will totally grant people their argument that TO didn’t help us go to the Superbowl, but I will not accept the fact that Jevon Kearse didn’t bring us over the edge.

He was a huge money FA and thats why I think we need to look for at least a few(or one) big impact FA so our young team can win a SB. I don’t know if anyone has brought up Kearse. I think him and Burgess were one of the main reasons we beat the Falcons.

by topcat6 on Mar 11, 2009 11:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Kearse had his moments when he was healthy

That Minnesota game where he shadowed Culpepper (I think it was MNF, when DC was still MVP form), he was maybe the best player on the field.

He looked like he was going to have a great year before he hurt himself against the Giants too. Shame it didn’t work out, he definitely showed flashes of brilliance

by D3Keith on Mar 12, 2009 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kearse and Owens show that the Eagles are willing to go after that big ticket FA to put us over the edge.

I think there was a glaring shortage of guys worthy of that type of money this year and think the guys the Eagles would’ve been open to (like Gross & Scaife) got tagged or resigned before we could make a move.

by andyreidswaistline on Mar 12, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

i get your point and agree… but technically Owens shows that we’ll trade for a high value player

"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel

by foos05 on Mar 12, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah I think most people forget we traded for Owen because it was such a debacle.

"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"

by Whodie126 on Mar 13, 2009 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

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