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"Not really," general manager Tom Heckert said. "If there had been a guy we really, really wanted and needed, we probably would have stayed there. Obviously, it would have been better for us if Carolina had had a poorer record. But there's no second thoughts.

"If we were in the same position [again] and there was a guy there we felt we didn't really have to have, we'd do it again. We thought Jeff Otah was a good player. But he fits their [run-oriented] offense a lot better than he fits ours

  • The wide receiver class in this draft seems pretty strong, and if the Eagles are interested they should find some good options outside of the first round

Even though the Eagles aren't likely to spend either of their two first-round picks, at No. 21 and No. 28, on a receiver, there are some interesting names that could be on the board for their turn at No. 53 in the second round. After all, 48 players were chosen before the Eagles took Jackson.

One of this year's receivers is Kenny Britt from Rutgers. At 6-4, 215 pounds, he has the size and leaping ability to be a red-zone threat, which is something the Eagles need. Three others with decent size are Maryland's Darrius Heyward-Bey (6-2, 206); North Carolina's Hakeem Nicks (6-1, 210), and Ohio State's Brian Robiskie (6-3, 209). A more versatile option might be Penn State's Derrick Williams.

Just by watching with eyeball test, it was obvious Abilene Christian’s Johnny Knox could really move. Texas-Austin’s Quan Cosby, Florida’s Percy Harvin and Maryland’s Darrius Heyward-Bay also appeared to run well. Unofficially, they were blazing. We’re waiting on the official times to come in after the second group runs, and we will pass those along as soon as we can.

It also appeared that Missouri’s Jeremy Maclin ran well. In the second group of receivers later today is Ohio State’s Brian Robiskie, Penn State’s Derrick Williams, North Carolina’s Brandon Tate and USC’s Patrick Turner, among others.

Miami has had at least one player drafted in the first round for the past 14 years dating back to 1995. The streak started with defensive tackle Warren Sapp, who went to the Buccaneers, and continued all the way to last season with safety Kenny Phillips, who went to the Giants.

But this year, the only Miami player at this year’s scouting combine is Hurricanes cornerback Bruce Johnson, whom NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock does not project as a first-day pick.

According to an announcement inside Lucas Oil Stadium for the benefit of scouts in attendance, Smith’s whereabouts were unknown for a time Saturday morning. About 30 minutes before he was scheduled to work out, he finally was located, but there were conflicting stories about why he was absent.

Smith, projected to be drafted as high as No. 2 overall by the Rams, came into the combine with some question marks. He was suspended from Alabama’s appearance in the Sugar Bowl for alleged improper contact with an agent, and he reportedly has struggled to keep his weight in check.

  • TE Jared Cook South Carolina was one of the big standouts in Indy. The 6'5 246 pounder led all TEs with the fastest 40 time, by far the highest vertical jump, best broad jump, and was among the leaders in just about every other measured category. If he falls to #28, he could be a very interesting pick for the Eagles.

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No love for PSU's Deon Butler?

Dude ran a 4.26 this weekend. 2nd best at the combine.

"For every moment of triumph, for every instance of beauty, many souls must be trampled"- Hunter S. Thompson

by phishead_psu on Feb 22, 2009 1:22 PM EST reply actions  

Unofficially?

I wasn’t able to watch this weekend but the website has him at 4.38, 4th among WRs (still blazing)

by PoppiDamus on Feb 23, 2009 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Say NO to combine warriors

Being a strength coach myself I can say that a lot of these guys manufacture their #s. I can take .2-3 seconds off your 40 time in a day by adjusting your technique. A lot of these guys that run 4.3’s will play at 4.7 speed. Remember Vernon Davis or Mamula? These guys were combine heroes, boosted their stock a LOT and ended up being not as good as advertised. remember Boldin and Rice ran 4.71 and 4.65 respectively.

Strength coaches nowadays are preparing a lot of these kids since their high school days for the combine.

Select them on what they did with a helmet on not what they do with shorts and a tee shirt.

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!

by Joe_D on Feb 22, 2009 1:32 PM EST reply actions  

IT’s about confirming what you see on the field. If a guy seems slow and lacking explosion on film… then he runs a 4.8 that’s a problem. If a guy looks quick and runs a sub 4.4 that’s confirmation of what you saw on film.

It’s the guys who seems play slow but run a blazing 40 time that are suspect to me.

Jared Cookw as every bit as productive as the consensus top TE Pettigrew. More productive this past year actually.

by JasonB on Feb 23, 2009 12:40 AM EST up reply actions  

+1 jason

"My first and foremost goal is to win a Super Bowl. I also set goals in terms of having a type of year to make the Pro Bowl. If I'm going to the Pro Bowl, I know I'm making plays for the team." Brian Dawkins

by EAGLE_MAN71 on Feb 23, 2009 4:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Boy...

…that Andre Smith is a fuckin’ character.

by ajay on Feb 22, 2009 1:40 PM EST reply actions  

my thought after reading that blurb was

he’s gonna be an eagle. he was flat dominant on the field for alabama, and this administration has never been shy about selecting linemen with weight problems and/or character issues.

smith’s got the kind of upside where it makes sense to take him with three picks in the first 50.

by variablesdont on Feb 22, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

don't you think NFL personnel people know that to begin with though?

"For every moment of triumph, for every instance of beauty, many souls must be trampled"- Hunter S. Thompson

by phishead_psu on Feb 22, 2009 1:43 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah they do

Heckert spoke about it last year but some teams still have players end up going from one end of the round to the other with a good or bad combine outing. Troy Williamson went from went from being late 1st round pick to 7th overall because he ran a fast 40 time which totally voided his limited production in college. Vernon Davis was on the fence about going top 10-15 but his strong outing in the combine put him in a guaranteed top 8.

Believe it or not Bunkley helped his draft status with a strong outing which ended up working out pretty good. However, Mamula who was not expected to go as high as he did ended up giving us limited production while Warren Sapp and Derrick Brooks were selected with the picks we traded away to nab him.

All I’m saying is doing a couple drills might show that an athlete is gifted and it might confirm that his success wasn’t because of a weak conference, but more often than not it’s no indicator how well someone is going to perform. I mean 40 time is everything but track stars ain’t football players. Ask the Vikings about that one, and painful memories of Troy Williamson will come to mind.

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!

by Joe_D on Feb 22, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Also,

skiers are not football players. what was that dudes name? Bloom or something? God I’m glad we have a return game now…..

by keithk on Feb 22, 2009 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Jared cook

I dont see him being taken in the first round even with a good performance at the combine. Its the combination of blocking, size, and recieving ablitliy that puts pettigrew into the first round. If we cant get a good TE this offseason via trade or pettigrew in the first round, cook may be a good obtion in the 2nd round.

by andyb on Feb 23, 2009 1:38 AM EST reply actions  

" I mean 40 time is everything but track stars ain’t football players"

Not dissing your or anything Joe just saying that running the 40 is totally different from running any race in track!. A lot of track runners have trouble running the 40 because it is a totally different race where there is no messing up and no catching up. As u said earlier the 40 is all technique…but its a lot harder than it looks

by phila.eagles on Feb 23, 2009 1:47 AM EST reply actions  

As much as the combine may just be all hype you had to take that hype with a grain of salt. The fastest 40 time for RB last year was put forth by Chris Johnson, who also turned out to be one of the best players in the draft.

by IgglesFanDeployd on Feb 23, 2009 7:13 AM EST reply actions  

Yea it does mean something...

I agree you can’t over-rate based on the draft but it is important…guys like Calvin Johnson and Adrian Peterson were able to make sure there were no questions about their skills coming out of the combine

by PoppiDamus on Feb 23, 2009 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

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