Heckert: We Already Got One (A WR)
by foos05 on Feb 13, 2009 12:31 PM EST
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Tom Heckert sat down with Anthony Gargano of Fox 29 to discuss some of the upcoming free agent situations that will be present with the Eagles. Some of the players discussed were Correll Buckhalter, Jon Runyan, Tra Thomas, and Brian Dawkins. 
It shouldn't come as too much of a shock to anyone that the front office doesn't believe that Buckhalter will return; as he has been vocal about finding more playing time. Heckert also mentioned that they haven't begun negotiations with Brian Dawkins, but that they would "love to have him back."
The bigger news, given some recent rumors, is that the Eagles probably won't be looking to add a wide receiver. In his view, they already have an extremely talented wide receiver in DeSean Jackson, and this position won't be an issue in the offseason.
"It's an easy out for everyone to say we need a wide receiver but we did get one - DeSean Jackson," Heckert said. Jackson was a second-round pick last season.
The goals of the front office seem to be in the area of offensive line and running back (which we all assumed).
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i wouldnt read to much into this, if weve learned anything about the front office its that they wont tip their hand about their off-season intentions. If a good reciever becomes available I think theyll make a play for him
by njh3293 on Feb 13, 2009 1:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
This is true… They said the same stuff about how happy they were with WRs last year and they spend a second round pick on Jackson and offer Randy Moss a ton of money…
by JasonB on Feb 13, 2009 3:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess Heckert didn’t watch the same NFC Championship game the rest of us did—having Fitzgerald wins the Eagles that game. Jackson is poised to be very good, and even though Curtis is a nice receiver, he’s mainly a slot receiver and not a real deep threat. I don’t see any of our receivers as being that great on the fade in the end zone. Something you saw in the past two SB’s…
by doubleh on Feb 13, 2009 1:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
and even though Curtis is a nice receiver, he’s mainly a slot receiver and not a real deep threat.
Not to be a dick but how can you come to this conclusion? In his first season here Curtis had 77 Reception 1,110 yards and 6 TDs. He came close to those numbers just once in St Louis 60 rec 801 yards and 6 TDs in 2005 curious that this was the same year Issac Bruce missed 5 games and Curtis was moved outside to the #2 spot.
Last year being cast off because of injury (the same injury that knocked out McNabb and Smith. I would say that Curtis is both a deep threat and makes a compelling case as a #1 receiver best suited to be on the outside and not in the slot.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
by Whodie126 on Feb 13, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I love Curtis,
But I would love a WR that makes you poop in your pants. But, I don’t think that is a reasonable request being that we need RB, OT, C, TE. I am not in love with a deal for Boldin, because the price is too high. But if we can get Who’s your mama for a nice price, (he isn’t a poop you pants guy), but is an upgrade for our WR group as a whole. I see Houshmendzadah as a Hank Basketish player with a boatload of more ability. But I would only do it if it were a good reasonable price.
Curtis and Jax are the bomb, but it would be nice to get some respect with our WR, but I guess that isn’t gonna happen.
You know what, our WR are really why we lost the NFL championsip game. BDawk got exposed big time, and Asante has to tackle better.
City of Champions!
by yophillybro on Feb 13, 2009 1:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe our WR aren’t why we lost the NFC Championship game, but a having premier one certainly wouldn’t hurt. That or a premier TE, but it doesn’t look like that’s going to happen, either.
We just have too many draft needs to waste a few on one position.
by doubleh on Feb 13, 2009 2:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
or not giving up 32 points…. maybe that’s why we lost
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
by foos05 on Feb 13, 2009 2:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Houshmanzadah is not like Baskett because he is smaller than baskett. TJ is only and inch taller than curtis so anyone looking for a BIG receiver is barking up the wrong tree with Housh
by bula412 on Feb 13, 2009 5:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I read that. TJ is not as tall as Basket, but plays like Hank
He works a lot in the middle and catches the ball at a high point. But your absolutely correct, he is kinda short. He just appears like a big receiver. Maybe its his build.
City of Champions!
by yophillybro on Feb 16, 2009 8:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, then the coaching staff needs to do a better job because he’s not used that way enough. Why do they keep trying to trot out Reggie Brown to catch deep balls? I think having another WR threat—someone like a Burress (but not Burress, obviously) who has good hands and can get separation (and is tall—we need someone tall who can leap over a defender) could make Curtis even better. I just don’t think Jackson is enough. And who knows what Westbrook will look like this year with the possible knee surgery? So there goes your main alternative offensive weapon.
by doubleh on Feb 13, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the said the possible surgery is minor and will not cause any issues in prep for camp or teh season… i’m not worried about the surgery… i’m worried about him being 30
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
by foos05 on Feb 13, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, all combined it’s the beginnings of the downhill stage for a premier RB. I just don’t know if I can live in a world where Westbrook becomes Shaun Alexander. It’s just too soon.
by doubleh on Feb 13, 2009 1:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Personally I’m fine with our WR core as is, I don’t want to sell the farm on Boldin 4 picks and then a monster contract is a lot to pay for him.
I would take Housh because he’d be a good bargain and is a great route runner with good hands which is perfect for the WC O we run (sorry Joe_D but it is) …
I just don’t see a Plaxico player available I mean Housh and Boldin are both just 6’1" Curtis is 6’0" (granted Boldin is a beast of muscle). IMO Antonio Bryant is a poor mans Boldin with about the same amount of talent but maybe more of an attitude which worries me.
I think we need to focus on other areas, Westbrook is definitely a concern, so is the OL, these are more pressing matters then adding to a WR core that was 6th in the NFL in receiving YPG, tied for 8th in Receiving TDs
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
by Whodie126 on Feb 13, 2009 2:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
um…the Cards NOT having Fitz wins us that game too.
by Clyde Simmons on Feb 13, 2009 1:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Did you not see our WRs burn the FUCk out of their secondary?
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Feb 13, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No surprise there,
But if we can get Who’s your Mama, I would like that deal.
City of Champions!
by yophillybro on Feb 13, 2009 1:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Nothing new here
The front office has always said they’re happy with their WRs. They said this last year and drafted DeSean in the second round. I still think if the price is right, they could always pull the trigger on a FA or a trade.
by ajay on Feb 13, 2009 2:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
they said this last year then offered Moss a contract … smoke and mirrors.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
by Whodie126 on Feb 13, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup, yup
and almost got Walker the year before. They come out with that same line every year.
City of Champions!
by yophillybro on Feb 13, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
in fairness to the FO though, i honestly think they drafted Jackson as a PR that would see some action as the 3rd or 4th wr… his wr production was a pleasant surprise… now offering an expensive multiyear contract to randy moss…. that’s another story
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
by foos05 on Feb 13, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How about drafting
A NEW FRONT OFFICE! It’s no wonder we don’t have a ring.
by cool-rockin-daddy on Feb 13, 2009 2:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
yep. front office’s fault taht we havnt won a superbowl. consistent winning for the last decade (for the most part) avoiding salary cap trouble year in and year out, bringing in great free agents like runyan and samuel,draft picks like jackson, westbrook, cole, sheldon brown, stewart Bradley, mike patterson, etc… all luck. THE FRONT OFFICE SUCKS FIRE EVERYONE!
by njh3293 on Feb 13, 2009 3:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I dont care if we try to sign TJ or not. He is a great reciever and would be great for us but we could spend the money to help on Oline or defense in free agency. Id say boldin is out of the question. Id rather keep all our picks and take Chris Wells and Pettigrew in the first. That would add two great offensive weapons would could share reps in the offense and eventually start in a few years if their production is good. Then we could spend a bunch of picks on o line and probably safeties. A signing like TJ or Boldin would be something to get excited about and would make the eagles tons of fun to play with in madden, but i think this year it will be better if we sign one or two good FA and draft some major talent with our picks.
by andyb on Feb 13, 2009 4:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It doesn’t have to be a WR but the Eagles need that tough nosed possession guy. WR or TE it doesn’t matter as long as they get the job done.
by IgglesFanDeployd on Feb 13, 2009 4:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
isnt the possession guy
avant??
Curtis sucks at deep ball he is never open deep, Djax is alright but not his forte I dont think. he finds the gaps. If anything on WR get a burner type guy that has the wheels to get open deep.
Stay away from beenie wells he’s a bum, doesn’t practice, gets hurt too much, has no hands, and would probably hold out.
My money’s on King Dunlap to start next season
by jhavrk8 on Feb 13, 2009 5:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
where to begin ….
Curtis sucks at deep ball he is never open deep
I don’t know if I agree with this completely I’ve seen some pretty nice deep balls go Curtis’s way.
If anything on WR get a burner type guy that has the wheels to get open deep.
You realize that is what Curtis and Jackson do right? we need a physical receiver not another “burner”.
Stay away from beenie wells he’s a bum, doesn’t practice, gets hurt too much, has no hands, and would probably hold out.
Doesn’t practice? you mean like Westbrook? get’s hurt to much? in his 3 seasons in college (39 games) he missed 3 games (all this year) due to injuring his foot and he only came back to rush for over 1,000 yards 5 TDs in his next 9 games failing to break 100 yards only twice. Hold out? your assuming the Eagles would have trouble signing him to a contract, and that is no reason to not draft a guy, any player can hold out you can’t tell.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
by Whodie126 on Feb 13, 2009 6:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We need to stay away from beanie Wells
Besides, that’s not Andy’s MO. He takes the little-heard-of backs that turn into gems, like Westbrook. I don’t think the Eagles have ever taken a high profile college RB. Buck wasn’t high progile, neither was Ryan Moats. I think the closest they cam last year was trying like hell to get Felix Jones. And that would have been an awesome coup.
But wells is overhyped because he’s from Ohio State. Hell, Ohio State is overhyped because they are Ohio State. That notwithstanding, Wells puts up big numbers except when it counts – in bug games and against out-of-conference teams with speed on defense. When he gets to the NFL, every team (except Detroit) will have faster D than Florida, LSU and USC. He’s overhyped and would not be worth a 1, 2 or 3 round pick.
"Dig In....Hit Hard"
by TexasLax on Feb 15, 2009 7:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
avant is the eagles over the middle guy and hes good at it he has the size for this middle shit
"My first and foremost goal is to win a Super Bowl. I also set goals in terms of having a type of year to make the Pro Bowl. If I'm going to the Pro Bowl, I know I'm making plays for the team." Brian Dawkins
by EAGLE_MAN71 on Feb 14, 2009 3:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sure we’ve got two good recievers and one who has potential to be very very good. but we are so far beneath the cap won’t the recievers we have be even better, heck, won’t even Westbrook be better if we have a solid #1 go to reciever that defenses need to key on. I am a TJ fan if we don’t sign him ok, but do something, do something…
As long as there is evil in the world, the cowboys will have their fans.
by vinniesdad on Feb 13, 2009 6:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I can't take all the retards in here anymore
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Feb 13, 2009 10:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
haha +1
Everyone has a right to their opinion but some people need to start checking facts and stats before they start posting. WR is a touchy subject in philly and most people post out of emotion and excitement when a big name guy is rumored to have a chance at coming to philly.
by andyb on Feb 14, 2009 2:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can't take all the retards in here anymore
RETARDS – damit how did dallas fans get in here bastards – ha ha lol
"My first and foremost goal is to win a Super Bowl. I also set goals in terms of having a type of year to make the Pro Bowl. If I'm going to the Pro Bowl, I know I'm making plays for the team." Brian Dawkins
by EAGLE_MAN71 on Feb 14, 2009 4:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
part of me is ok with our receivers, part of me fears the eagles ignoring all three guys and a nightmare scenario of housh playing in washington, boldin to the giants and ocho to the cowboys while we stay with our current receiving corp. i have had a feeling jackson was gonna be a star since i first saw him and i have nothing to deter that gut feeling
by 0sirys on Feb 13, 2009 11:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
: Eagles Won't Get Receiver
if they were smart they would – brown is dead weight to me as well as lewis at this point -say good by to these two and bring in one more
"My first and foremost goal is to win a Super Bowl. I also set goals in terms of having a type of year to make the Pro Bowl. If I'm going to the Pro Bowl, I know I'm making plays for the team." Brian Dawkins
by EAGLE_MAN71 on Feb 14, 2009 3:07 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Non Story
As has been said throughout the comments, this is a non story. The front office is known for playing things close to the vest. They gain nothing by saying: “yes, we would like to address the WR position and will be looking at all avenues to make that happen.” In fact, all they do is lose leverage in trade talks, and hurt the existing WR core if they are not able to pull anything off. I am not among the Philly fans that gets bent out of shape about the WR position. Last week I posted something on the topic on my own blog but I will summarize here. Basically, as other have said, WR is not the #1 priority this offseason. In fact, it’s well down the list. If the team went into next year with the current crop of WRs it would not be considered a major weakness. The WR core as is struggles in only one area and that is in the red zone. How much of those struggles are related to play calling and the lack of a consistent TE threat is difficult to measure. Now if the Eagles could go out and get a Boldin type player I certainly wouldn’t mind—as long as it doesn’t come at the expense of other more pressing needs.
Chris Iafolla http://heardinthecheapseats.com/
by Chris Iafolla on Feb 14, 2009 11:32 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
More pressing needs
As much as i would like to get a receiver like boldin or TJ, there is more pressing needs at the Oline positions. I think the defence is pretty much set with the exception of the dawkins signing situation, so it’s pretty clear the majority of the picks are going towards our offensive side. There’s only so many picks we can use on the offensive line before we move on to either the WR, or RB positions. And don’t get me worng, i think our oline’s good, but it’s not great. And we never know how players like McGlynn are improving this offseason so there may not be as big of a need at the line position as we thought. It’s all really up in the air as far as who to get, who to let go, and who can we afford. The one thing that sticks with me though is that McNabb could certainly use a big receiver, and after all he’s been through, i think he deserves a superbowl and the front office needs to do everything in their power to help him out.
Side note: Why is a 300 pound DT our fullback? C’mon, we need to address this issue. Teams with a good fullback, have a good run game… it’s a proven fact
Maybe next year
by awat5 on Feb 14, 2009 4:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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