The top 10 Eagles of the decade?
by d-jackfan10 on Dec 23, 2009 4:36 PM EST
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PrintWell, the decade is coming to a close, and it may have been the most successful in Eagles history with 100+ wins, 10 playoff victories, 5 NFC Championship games, 1 NFC Championship and 1 superbowl game. But what about the individuals? Who were the top 10 Eagles of the decade?
My list is this:
1. Donovan McNabb
2. Brian Dawkins
3. Brian Westbrook
4. Tra Thomas
5. Jon Runyan
6. Terrell Owens
7. Jeremiah Trotter
8. David Akers
9. Trent Cole
10. Sheldon Brown
I wasn't really sure if DeSean deserved to be on the list yet, but he is close to TO's production in his 2 seasons here and I wasn't sure if Asante had been here long enough to be on the list. Honorable mentions go out to Chad Lewis, Deuce Staley, Corey Simon, Hugh Douglas, Troy Vincent, Bobby Taylor, Al Harris and Lito Sheppard.
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Pretty good list
Maybe replace Akers with Troy Vincent? Other than that I pretty much agree with all of it—Maybe even an honorable mention: Jim Johnson. What a gem he was. Without those top defenses who knows how htis franchise would fare?
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
Yeah I was going to say I’d try to get Troy Vincent on that list somehow. But I don’t know how. The list is pretty good overall. Akers has been a solid kicker for the entire decade so I don’t know if you can take him off. Troy and Sheldon interchangeable maybe? 10a and 10b?
The Eagles are the first team in NFL history to have a running back and a wide receiver with 500 yards apiece in the same season before their 22nd birthdays.
As boring as he is...
Akers should be right near the top. He’s scored more points than anyone and won so many games.
It’s kind of like electing Elmer Fudd as your ‘poster boy’ for Hunter Safety. Elmer might be a dork, but he taught me never to pull the trigger when a rabbit has a finger in the muzzle your weapon. That tactical discipline has save my life many times during specops.
:)
LOL
"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs
TO
I’d put him lower on the list. I don’t know if he was here long enough to warrant top 10 of the decade.
The Eagles are the first team in NFL history to have a running back and a wide receiver with 500 yards apiece in the same season before their 22nd birthdays.
1 good year and then the 2005 debacle… he doesn’t deserve this list at all. Greg Lewis deserves this list more than him.
About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.
yea rite
dont hate on TO .. best wr we have had
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Dec 23, 2009 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
I DO hate TO, but not as much as I hate JIBTA
And you are wrong again, you JIB-Stained, Monkey-Foker.
Here’ the Logic: He was the best WR we ever had for a season (so far), but also the worst team-breaking influence we ever had for a season, and hopefully forever.
So T.O. balances to a neutral – at best..
He’s OFF the list.
No JIBTA...
the best WR we ever “had” we still have and his names Desean Jackson…
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
hahahahahah
if u think jackson is better than owens ur fuckin nuts .. not even close bro!! not even close .. ones a superstar .. jacksons a good wr and exciting .. but he will never be TO
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Dec 24, 2009 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
he's replaced TO's production...
and has more big plays, demands double coverage, still produces while being double covered and is having a much better year than TO.. Desean has surpassed TO, suck it up, you lost this one bud…
And I for one dont want him to be TO, I want him to have the production TO had and for a longer time and I want him to be humble about it yet slightly cocky…
merry christmas JIBTA.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"O BS"
To quote you moron. Jackson is by far the better reciever. As of right now Jackson has accumulated more yards than TO did the entire year. 1221 rushing and recieving for Jackson(up to this point) vs. 1195 rushing and recieving for the 2003 season. Now dumbass I hope simple math doesn’t escape you but if it does 1221>1195…
by Cowboy KILLER on Dec 24, 2009 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
um no
14 receiving tds to jacksons 8 .. where are u on that .. u guys are fuckin stupid i swear .. jackson is not fuckin TO .. they are not in the same class .. wow idiotic eagles fans .. atleast im realistic
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Dec 24, 2009 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
Jackson is not "by far" the better receiver
I’m with anyone who says DJax is better for the Eagles than T.O. was, and I might even be able to buy that DJax has a greater net effect on wins than T.O., provided I could be convinced that T.O.’s attitude costs teams more than his production helps them.
But DJax would have to have this season about 10 more times before he’s “by far a better receiver” than T.O. Let’s be real here.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
actually when you base everything off this year
which is pretty much the only one that counts Djax is the better reciever…
Look at the stats, You cant compare TO’s complete body of work to Jacksons becasue Jackson’s only been in the league 2 years.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
Yeah...
When you look at their contribution “as an Eagle,” TO will hopefully fade away as a bad memory, but DJack should be here to stay.
How about Lance Parrish for the all-Phillies team? Any comments from Jackass is “by-far” the ass?
Yeah Desean has 5 more TD's to go before he catches TO's
total from when he was an eagle and he has a bare minimum of 3 games to do so.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
what are you a fan of?
jack isnt on the team anymore. you can leave
RIP Jim Johnson. You will truly be missed.
by Igglesfan13 on Dec 24, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
Jeremy Bloom is way better then TO,
hows that for u Jibta
by goldenbird09 on Dec 25, 2009 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
No way..
Jeremy bloom was pathetic.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
no kiddin
i was bustin balls wild eagle
by goldenbird09 on Dec 26, 2009 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
Listen JIBTARD
If you include the 415 yards and 2 TDs from kick returns then I don’t seriously see how you can compare the two. TO was a reciever, Jackson is a reciever, punt returner and rusher. Did I mention that he has 134 yards and 1 TD from rushing??? Rusher + Reciever + Punt Returner = BEAST
MERRY CHRISTMAS
by Cowboy KILLER on Dec 25, 2009 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
Take TO off that list NOW.
Everything he did well in his first season was negated by the team-destroying antics of the second season. In other words: He had a pretty good year but we weren’t really much better with him than we were before, but when he decided he wasn’t happy, he selfishly destroyed the team.
I am the people's troll :3™
agreed
About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.
Also agreed
TO could have been an Eagle forever and earned all the money he ever desired, if not from the team, from endorsements that accompany the accolades his talent and the adoring Philly market would have required. It’s too bad he finally decided to grow up now that he’s playing Buffalo.
And to IronHank, that’s a great point … all the good he did in ’04 he undid in ’05.
He played a season and a half for us, I’d put Sheldon and Troy higher on this particular list.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
Sorry, I missed your post the first time through.
About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.
Should have read this before I posted my similar comment.
+1. At least I added that JIBTA is a monkey-foker. I hope that added something.
Respect to Yom.
My bad yomjo
he wrote it higher up, and my timestamp comprehension skills are clearly equal to Asante Samuel’s tackling. My bad.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
Agreed
I’d take TO off the list. He was here one year and almost single handedly ruined our 2005 season. I’d replace him with Hugh Douglas, personally.
Otherwise, this is a graet list.
TO was the big story in 2005, but honestly I think Mike McMahon had a much bigger role in ruining that season.
Mike McMahon sucked but...
you have to be kidding me if you think TO wasn’t just as much to blame.
About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.
bs
what did TO do .. he said the eagles would be better off with brett favre .. yea well they would .. if they ask desean would the eagles be better with manning and he said yes .. is it not true .. favre is one of the 3 best qbs of all time .. they should of payed TO and maybe they would have a ring .. he deserved to be paid .. just like sheldon does
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Dec 23, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
did you even pay attention to what happened to the dallas cowboys last year?
THAT’s what would have happened if TO stayed… team division, general chaos, and the like… although jerry jones is more of a headcase than lurie
by alcatraz0109 on Dec 23, 2009 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
bull shit
dallas was better with TO .. hes a stud .. they always wanna blame TO .. but his td totals suggest hes an asset not a burden
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Dec 23, 2009 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
Do you have the ability to think outside the box?
Honestly just asking. Just because someone is talented doesn’t necessarily mean they’re an asset to a team. For instance, Allen Iverson was a great asset to the 76ers when they were well-built around him with guys who liked doing the dirty work and didn’t care that he dominated the ball on offense. But despite AI’s undeniable talent, he wasn’t always an asset to a team.
In this T.O. example, they’re not more talented without him, but if they finish 10-6 or 11-5 and they win in the playoffs when they were 8-8 and missed it last year, there’s an argument for them being better … If his influence in the locker room or in the offense was detrimental to the point where Romo and Witten et. al. feel they’re better off without him, and the results don’t outright disprove it, then maybe there’s something to it.
In other words, there are some things in team sports that can’t be quantified by stats alone.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
TO destroyed dallas...
Im glad we got rid of that cancer.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
bull shit
would u rather play dallas with out TO? cuz i sure as hell would .. they were a better team with him .. they underachieved and romo is not a good qb .. none of that is TOs fault .. they always make him out to be the scapegoat .. lets blame TO .. he said he would rather have brett favre .. whos top 2 qb of all time .. how dare he .. what a jerk .. atleast TO tells the truth
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Dec 24, 2009 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
Actually Id rather play them WITH TO...
he’s about to explode at any moment and just about every year(expecially the 44-6 outing) TO starts screaming at everyone else…
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
You lost me at
“romo is not a good qb”
They were a more talented team with him. They’re better without him.
Well, to be completely fair, they were better with him the second year, when he behaved (13-3), then he started in with the selfish shit (8-8), they dumped him, and now they’re gonna be somewhere between 9-7 and 11-5.
The three years of Owens they were 9-7, 13-3 and 8-8. Not all of the record is attributed to him, but he clearly didn’t make them into an amazing unstoppable force.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
what???
I never said Romo isnt a good QB.. But I do think it.
I think there way more dangerous w/o TO.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
Even if TO had behaved, the Eagles weren’t winning games with McMahon. When you don’t have an NFL caliber QB, you don’t have a good team. If Donovan hadn’t been hurt, the maybe TO would have been a bigger deal, but McNabb’s injury and lack of a capable backup made it a throwaway season anyway.
Oh, it was a throwaway season ...
… wasn’t the stat 9 pro bowlers injured that year? I know Tra and Lito and a bunch more players than McNabb missed significant time because of injury, but that’s not really the point.
Has T.O. done enough to be one of the best Eagles of the decade? If you believe yes, you’re basing it on one season, since they were 4-5 with him in ’05 before all the injuries hit. He did not earn a positive spot in Eagles lore in ’05 no matter how you judge him.
So was ‘04 enough, that’s the question.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
I wasn’t really saying he belongs on the list, just that he wasn’t what killed that season. Or at least, not the only thing.
Fair enough
However, I would still argue that the TO Cloud marred that season more than the injuries. The team was 4-5 when McNabb went down. It just spiraled out of control when you threw the injuries on top. The team was distracted from the very beginning. Andy Reid was going to court instead of preparing for a game. Finally, when he left the Eagles got nothing in return because he made himself untradeable. His negative impact on this franchise at the very best makes his time here neutral. Reno Mahe may have done more positive for this organization than TO when you look at the entire decade. Finally, we won two playoff games without him and we lost the SB with him, despite his incredible performance. That tells you something right there. Not denying he should be on the list from a talent standpoint but there is no way he should make a Top 10 Eagles of the Decade List.
We’ve been quite fortunate as a franchise to have so many high caliber players come through here in the last 10 years. The list we make in 10 years is going to contain players like Maclin, Jackson, Celek and McCoy (maybe even a certain lineman from USC???) who are getting the opportunity to play side by side with some of the best players from this decade. We’ve got a quite a thing going here.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
Take TO off and replace him with Asante.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
lets be honest guys
TO made our offense so sick. He is a HOF WR. He’s also a HOF diva, but the impact he had on this team was enormous
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
he was here for a year... To short of
a tenure to be a “top 10” in an eagles unitform.. Fuck Id rather have Reggie brown up there than him.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
agreed actually
i think Simon is much more deserving, the guy was elite for several years before skipping fat camp for a year. T.O. was probably the best WR all told from 2000-2009 (so far), but his body of work isn’t big enough for one of the best Eagles of the decade.
Slap Troy Vincent, Corey Simon, Hugh Douglas, hell Darwin Walker over him. Maybe even Sam Rayburn. Those guys produced for more seasons, and didn’t make one season completely miserable even though they also sputtered out quick (except Vincent).
How many years did...
our run defense suck! I have a hard time putting any D-tackle on the list. Simon was good but man, I remember games that I would have nicknamed him a turnstile. And that’s no pretty spin.
bs
wild eagle stop hating on TO .. hes the best WR to ever wear an eagles uniform .. and they should have never let him go
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Dec 23, 2009 8:30 PM EST up reply actions
Desean>TO...
Desean will always be better than TO, he’s done everything TO did in 2004 already this year, and he’s not a cancer and isnt going to try and destroy this team.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
+1 AND ....By the end of the season
He’ll have the numbers to prove it.
hahahaahah
dumbasses!!! jackson is not better than TO" .. his numbers are not better .. TO is only 2nd all time in tds .. jackson is a nice player .. he is and will never be TO!!! stop it with this nonsense .. iron hank hates TO more than anyone on here. . i bet he would even say ur crazy and jackson is not better than TO skill wise or production wise
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Dec 24, 2009 7:12 PM EST up reply actions
here are the stats...
And keep in mind Im saying Jacksons better than TO this year, you cannot compare careers until both of theres are over…
Jackson: 56 rec, 1087yrds, 19.4 average, 8td’s; 9 rushes, 134yrds, 14.9 average and 1td
TO: 47rec, 725yds, 15.9 average, 4td’s; 5 rushes, 58yds, 1td.
Jackson is far better than TO, he has surpassed TO in all categories, your arguement is useless.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
By golly, JIBSTAIN is wrong again.
Well, how do you like that. Boy that TO is just burning up the field this year. He sure puts Jackson to shame. NOT!!!
Your argument is useless JIBSHIT, TO might be second all time in TD’s (However I suspect you are lying and that is just another JIBTA opinionfact), but he is first – FIRST – in screwing up three otherwise decent teams.
You JIBTA are a moron , a first class idiot. a jackass of the lowest denomination. By your logic, If we were to pick the most productive posters of all time on BGN we could say it was you. You have produced the most lies, the most bullshit and the most enemies of anyone on line that I have seen since Saddam Hussein used to post on the Sesame Street websites. Please take poison and die. And video it and post it for us. It would make a great Christmas present.
Merry Christmas, JIBTA, you useless pile of reindeer snot. I hope Santa leaves you a brain, a personality and a friend, cause currently, you got none.
there was absolutely no reason for trashing JIBTA like that
completely uncalled for, I cannot believe you would speak(type w/e you wanna call it) to someone in that manner no matter how much you disagree with them…
You made good points but telling him to poison himself is completely fucked up… And I am JIBTA’s friend no matter how much we disagree(which is like all the time), cant exist without an opposite.. You are my friend too I.G. and we get along great but this went to far.
JIBTA I offically apologize for what IggleGreen has said to you on that last comment…
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
and its Christmas bro, if your gonna say this
save it for new years.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
I don't...
take what Iggle said as serious. I hope we can all banter back and forth in good fun. It is much more fun to read outlandish posts and respond. We need the JIBTA’s just like those sad misled fans of d.
As for me, I’ve trashed d and all their fans for the fun of it. Again, this is all fantasy land as far as I’m concerned. We’re not solving the world’s problems here. So try not to get all worked up everyone. Right Yomi?
Thanks Soren.
Good perspective post…. I’ll reply to Wild_Eagle after Xmas is over.
You’re right about a couple of things. I might hate TO more than anybody else here. I hate him even more than I hate Josh McDaniels for stealing Dawkins.
You’re also right about another thing. I am not going to say Jackson is better than TO. Part of the reason I hated him so much was the fact that he was good. Really good. Not only did he screw us by asking for more money when he was only one year into his seven year deal. I hate him because, of all the teams he could have gone to, he went to Dallas. And I hate that he burned us for multiple touchdowns while he was there.
What I am saying is that he doesn’t belong on the list of the top ten eagles of the decade. He played with us for one good year, then screwed us over after McNabb went down and, as icing on the cake, he skipped to Dallas to screw with our secondary for three years. I don’t count him as an Eagle, not a real one at least. As such, he doesn’t belong on the list.
Greg Lewis is a better fit for this kind of list. Greg Lewis.
About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.
Best WR ever to where an Eagles uniform?!!!
I beg to differ my man. Lets see Mike Quick, Harold Carmichael, Tommy McDonald, Irving Fryar, Fred barnett , Calvin Williams Just to name a few.These names represent a lot more good memories for TRUE eagles fans than THAT idiot. I haven’t even mentioned the Kids DJ and JMac because that wouldn’t be fair to put them up against what an outside observer would term a HOF career for the crybaby. ( not to mention a very poor actor , by the way).But they will be better than him . Ya know why? Because they are TEAM first Guys. These guys are definitely much better than YOUR hero in an Eagles uniform.
Don't (sniff)...
pick on (sniff) D-Mac, he’s my quarterback (sniff).
In all seriousness, I don’t dislike TO; I feel sorry for him. He’s a very sad case, a troubled soul.
huh?????????????
how can TO be the best receiver 2 ever wear a eagle uniform when he was only hear for 1 and a half years???? I know his production was out of this world but i know ur not tellin me TOs 1 good year compare 2 Carmichaels whole career as a eagle.
the impact he had on this team was enormous
No doubt. He helped us get to 13-1 in the SB season, then he helped bury the following season, and he was gone.
His impact is undeniable … and it’s also not of the caliber deserving to be on a list of great Eagles of the decade.
Most talented players to wear green the past 10 years, sure …
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
The impact was enormous
Both positive and negative. This is why he doesn’t make the list for me. If this was just a list about the most talented Eagles, he might even be #1. As far as those who were the “best Eagles,” he should not even sniff the top 50.
Remember, this team won the games to get to the SB without him. They lost the SB with him. While he made McNabb’s number look better, I see no conclusive evidence that the team would have done any worse without him that season. Maybe the SB would have been more lopsided but there is nothing to say they would not have made it.
Top 5 are straight
I’d put Trotter 6, Brown 7, Douglas 8, Vincent 9, and CLew 10.
If we include coaches at all, Johnson is 4 and everyone moves a spot down.
Anybody else want to rearrange the top 3?
McNabb/Dawk/Westbrook are clearly the three … just wondering if that’s the order.
There have been plenty of times when people have said Westbrook is the most important player on the team.
It’s nitpicking, I’m not sure it matters. Any order of those 3 probably works.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
Westbrook was the most important player on the team this decade until this year. Eagles’ offense would struggle most of the time when he didn’t play. He was irreplaceable. As Garcia and Feeley showed, Eagles can still win some ball games without 5. I would put Westy No. 1, no doubt.
Andy Reid is 43-5 when running the ball at least 30 times in a game( Ray Diddy on Eagles Post Game Live after Bears Victory)
by Route36 on Dec 23, 2009 9:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'd have Dawk first if he wasn't gone this year
And as for Westbrook or McNabb, the two are really interchangeable.
Don't agree...
Think of the games we played without McNabb. Now think of the games we played without Westbrook. We hurt in both instances, but I remember beating good teams without McNabb (San Fran on a Monday night with Koy Detmer was a highlight). Our offense, at times, was nothing without Westy.
I think it should go
McNabb because the QB is most important
Westbrook because he was our badass for years
Dawkins becasue he’s Dawkins.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
yea
i would put tra thomas ahead of westbrook .. bookend tackle who never got beat .. similar to a poormans walter jones
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Dec 23, 2009 8:54 PM EST reply actions
Similar to a poor man's Walter Jones?
…what?
How about just ‘similar to Walter Jones’. There was nothing poor about Tra – and, while he might not have been as outstanding as Jones was, he was always in camp, played hard, and did things right.
I wouldn't put Tra ahead of Westbrook
I’m not sure Tra was even the Eagles’ best tackle of the decade. He was a heck of a pass blocker, as you say JIBTA, and we were passing about 65% of the time, but Runyan was a more well-rounded offensive lineman, and didn’t get beat a whole lot.
If I didn’t know better, I’d think you say things like “i would put tra thomas ahead of westbrook” just to get a rise out of people here.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
Runyan is 4A and Tra is 4B
THAT’s what I think.
by alcatraz0109 on Dec 23, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
no
a probowl tackle is more important than a pass catching rb .. thomas could actually be as high as first .. rank the seahawks .. i bet walter jones is one .. he should be .. ogden should be top 3 for ravens
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Dec 23, 2009 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
Agree to disagree
generally, a Pro Bowl tackle is better than a pass-catching RB, but I assume you’ve watched enough Eagles over the years to know Thomas’s limitations and how special Westbrook was in his prime.
I like Thomas & Runyan at 4/5 on the list, either order, and Trotter at 6, even despite his on-again, off-again. … dude can’t cover, but he’s a hell of a downhill linebacker and is the soul of the great defenses over the years, along with Dawk, Troy, et. al.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
Yeah...
Trotter in that Superbowl year was something special. I remember the countless times he penetrated the line and blew up the ball carrier. I loved that guy in his prime. And he was a difference-maker. Remember our MLs without him?
yea
well i think westrbook has been drastically over rated by eagles fans .. a bookend tackle who never got beat and was a dominant probowler for the whole decade basically ..hes easily top 3
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Dec 24, 2009 7:14 PM EST up reply actions
He was a three-time Pro Bowler ...
… let’s not make him into Jonathan Ogden.
# 3× Pro Bowl selection (2001, 2002, 2004)
# 1× All-Pro selection (2002)
He’s a very good pass blocker who didn’t get all that much push in the run game. You didn’t have to worry about him missing games or getting our QB killed, but you’re kidding yourself (or just making wild claims for the fun of making wild claims) if you believe he was dominant for a decade.
He’s No. 5 on my list.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
How can you say Desean and Asante hasn’t been here long enough but put TO on the list?
TO is a great player but Troy Vincent deserves that spot.
Andy Reid is 43-5 when running the ball at least 30 times in a game( Ray Diddy on Eagles Post Game Live after Bears Victory)
by Route36 on Dec 23, 2009 9:02 PM EST via mobile reply actions
his tackling gets better for a few games then drops off.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
He brings the wood
he just doesn’t wrap up.
It’s not that he’s Deion and scared to hit, he just always goes for the killshot instead of breaking down and form tackling. FWIW
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
yeah, they really need to work on that
with him, he needs to at least wrap up until help comes.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
nah, you can always lay down the law
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
I've seen him...
avoid contact before. Yes, he goes for the kill shot when the ball carrier is not facing him, but he often won’t attack a guy coming at him. And yes, he definitely does not wrap up. I know the guy is small, but it doesn’t excuse the lack of fundamentals.
Great list.........Only somewhat Questionable call is TO..........
and only because he was here for such a short time making a +ve impact……….
Now someone needs to make a list consisting of the worst players of the decade.
I’ll start it off by nominating LJ Smith and Todd Pinkston.
"THIS IS NOT COLLEGE NO MORE. THIS IS THE BIG MAN SPORT." ~Crazy Lady on BGN forums
FredEx, McDougle (huge bust)
thats all i can think of right now
by alcatraz0109 on Dec 23, 2009 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
Sean Considine
Worst players being defined by someone who showed some promise, but never fulfilled it.
Matt McCoy.
Tony Hunt and Ryan Moats (although he’s a decent Texan)
I give McDougle a pass b/c of injuries and getting shot. It’s not like he straight-up squandered his talent.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
Arrrgh. Tony Hunt.
Coulda, shoulda, woulda. I wanted him to succeed.
And not just cause he was from PSU.
Same with Jack the Iguana and Reggie Brown. They aren’t all gonna live up to expectations, I ’spose.
reggie's talent doesn't bug me
so much as his disappearance after getting paid. I remember e contributed somewhat in his early years post-TO
by alcatraz0109 on Dec 24, 2009 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
true
mcdougle had an astounding amount of bad luck. ill give him a pass i guess
by alcatraz0109 on Dec 24, 2009 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
I can't give...
Al Harris an honorable mention. The dude was a nickel back while he was here and had more personal foul penalties than I care to remember. It seemed he was destined to do at least one stupid thing a game. He was a heck of a nickel back and has done very well in Green Bay, but I don’t see how we can put him on this list.
My boy and I
nicknamed him “the human penalty flag.”
He did start a run of us always having good nickel corners though.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
That list SUCKS!!!
1. Jim McMahon
2. Freddie Mitchel
3. Todd Pinkston
4. Dhani Jones
5. James Trash
6. Mark Simoneau
7. Sean Considine
8. Reno Mahe
9. L.J. Smith
10. Quinton Caver
My list wins.
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
lj should definitely be higher.
James Trash should be higher and how is Jones not first. that one tackle was awesome
RIP Jim Johnson. You will truly be missed.
by Igglesfan13 on Dec 24, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
i assume you mean Mike McMahon
I’d still put FredEx number one, as in drafting him we missed ocho, reggie wayne, steve smith, and Housh. the thing with mcmahon is we didnt have a ton of other options (although i totally forget that year’s FA QBs)
by alcatraz0109 on Dec 25, 2009 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
i love desean as much as anybody
but its not arguable that To’s 2004 season was better than deseans this year
TO: 77 catches 1200 yards and 14 touchdowns
Deseans number have been posted, but really punt return yards cant be factored into the equation. throw statistics out the window; no way desean is as big a deal as TO was to that 2004 team.
two other things are completely nondebateable: TO has had a better career than desean (TO is a top 3-5 reciever all time)
also: To’s killed i mean absolutely killed the 2005 season
i mean the guy was in the media everyday bitching and started fights in the locker room.
that being said, TO deserves his place on that list for bringing us to the super bowl that season. as a franchise with only two super bowl appearances, there is no possible way to discount the importance of that season and what it meant to philadelphia. at any point from the jaws era until 2004 youre honestly teling me all of you wouldnt have traded a 6-10 year for a super bowl appearance? really? i realize he didnt play until the superbowl, but owens brought a swagger, a certain air of invincibility to that 2004 team. if the eagles win that superbowl theyre one of the greatest nfl teams ever, let alone in the league that year. Although he broke all of your hearts the next year, his heart and determination that year is really unquestionable. he fought back from that injury to have a huge game in the superbowl, and at that point i bet all of you would have wanted him at number one on this list someday.
CHAD LEWIS!!
this guy made clutch catches when it mattered. Always seemed to get open in the endzone and played his heart out up until his last game. Showed up when it mattered (in playoff games), and even though he wasnt the most athletically gifted TE he definitely gave everything in him for the team. Duece was also the man back in his day (remember him rushing over 200+ yds agains the cowboys) but he left pretty early on, if not he would’ve been a shoe in
Chad Lewis is great
Child please
by worldphuckinchamps on Dec 25, 2009 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
Id rearrange and add/drop a few people
1. Brian Dawkins
2. Tra Thomas
3. Jon Runyan
4. Donovan McNabb
5. Brian Westbrook
6. Jeremiah Trotter
7. Trent Cole
8. David Akers
9. Hugh Douglas
10. Chad Lewis
The real reason why I dropped McNabb and Westbrook is because they were always injured.
Dawkins, Thomas, and Runyan did not miss many games, if any at all.
Child please
by worldphuckinchamps on Dec 25, 2009 10:42 PM EST reply actions
No TO for obvious reasons, even though I do agree that he helped our team a lot (but only for a single year)
Sheldon has been good, but not great. He would be on my top 15 though for sure.
Child please
by worldphuckinchamps on Dec 25, 2009 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
whoa whoa
when i sugested thomas at 2 they all laughed at me .. he was that good .. he was always better than runyan .. possibly hof bookend .. poormans walter jones
An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)
by jack is better than asante on Dec 28, 2009 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
I do remember...
Dawkins missing extended time a couple years ago, but I’m with you….I love that guy. And his leadership and way of carrying himself as a soldier of the Lord puts him at the top of my list.
The Philadelphia Inquirer had an article listed as “Best Eagles of the Decade” in the paper on Sunday and their list included:
McNabb
Dawk
Westbrook
Tra Thomas
Runyan
Vincent
Douglas
Trotter
Cole
D Jax
I dont remember the exact order they had the list in but I tried to guesstimate as best as I could… but I do remember D Jax being on the list at number 10.
I definitely thought Akers should of been on the list but since he’s just a “kicker” I see why he could be overlooked.
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
Interesting...
I guess I would have to qualify best players in the decade and best players of the decade. DJax has been great but his sampling size is just not enough to qualify for the latter. I was wondering if Vincent should be on the list. I thought he was great when he was here. Again, for him, I couldn’t remember how many of his years here were in this decade. When did he leave the team?
Yeah thats not my list, just the list that was in the paper. I think Jackson has the opportunity to be a franchise favorite over time but he does have a small sample size. But with his time here he has done a lot so I’ll take it. Vincent signed with the Eagles in 96’ and played for 8 seasons. He had 5 back to back pro bowls and man of the year within that time. .
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
yeah I would agree.
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
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