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For a good laugh, the 2008 NFL draft scores

from 2008, here's an article where every team was scored.
Philadelphia Eagles - C (2.30) What the Eagles did right was trade down to get extra choices. What they did wrong was to waste some of them by over drafting players. Trevor Laws DT (47) is one of my favorite players. He has a non-stop motor and kept his head up and provided leadership during a tough season at ND. Desean Jackson KR (49) will be a specialty player. At most he will get 8-10 touches a game. He will never survive as a WR at his size and weight. Mike Gibson T (184) and King Dunlap T (230) were both need picks and good values. Jack Ikegwuonu CB (131) would have been a 1 st round player in 06 but fell because of an injury and less than exciting 2007 season. The other three picks were wasted.
Just as a by the way, 2 of the other 3 "wasted" picks were Quintin Demps and Joe Mays. This evaluation was kind of a total miss the whole way, wasn't it?

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Wow... just... wow.

Love how he omitted that we also scored an extra 1st round pick in that draft as well.

by JimmyK on Dec 21, 2009 2:26 PM EST reply actions  

How about Desean?

Actions speak louder than black people in a movie theater......

by Zachary Beard on Dec 21, 2009 2:26 PM EST reply actions  

Just as a by the way, 2 of the other 3 “wasted” picks were Quintin Demps and Joe Mays.

I guess the 3rd is Andy Studebaker? He’s starting for the Chiefs.

by JimmyK on Dec 21, 2009 2:34 PM EST reply actions  

He is right about DeSean...

8-10 touches is all he needs! 6 catches = 140 yards and touch! HAHAAAAAA…he could never be so right and so wrong in one sentence…or was that 2?

I've been sayin "Wait til next year" for 31 years....

R.I.P. JJ

by DoctaWoo on Dec 21, 2009 2:50 PM EST reply actions  

just goes to show

the draft is a crapshoot more than anything – one guy could see a draft class as potentially very successful while another sees it as a failure.

Fortunately, this class is more the former than the latter

by alcatraz0109 on Dec 21, 2009 2:58 PM EST reply actions  

It also goes to show

how really REALLY good the front office is getting at the draft. And better every year.

by IggleGreen on Dec 21, 2009 8:57 PM EST up reply actions  

This guy isn't legit... I just read his 2009 AFC winners and losers...
Chargers: SD got some solid values with the best player in the draft Aaron Curry (ILB Wake Forest) with the 3rd pick, my favorite center Max Unger (OC Oregon) in the second and one of my sleepers, Nick Reed (ILB Oregon) in the 7th. Grade A-

http://fryingpansports.com/2009/04/27/afc-draft-winners-and-losers/

Uh, Bill… The Chargers didn’t draft any of those guys.

by JimmyK on Dec 21, 2009 2:58 PM EST reply actions  

Hahaha

nice

"He wasn't an astronaut! He was a comedian, and he was just using space travel as a metaphor for beating his wife!"

by Rumplestiltskin02 on Dec 21, 2009 3:00 PM EST reply actions  

I'm going to flat out say it

Outside of Brian Dawkins, Desean Jackson is the best 2nd round pick in Eagles history. He’s the Black Tommy McDonald lol.

by NJEagle on Dec 21, 2009 4:56 PM EST reply actions  

Let's not get crazy...

I think you’re forgetting Quinton Caver.

by JimmyK on Dec 21, 2009 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I would give DeSean another few years before I would say that. You can certainly make an argument for Cunningham and Eric Allen.

by captain nodar on Dec 21, 2009 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

FAIL

"Backs in the 'I'...First and 10...McNabb, play action. Is back again. He is looking..he is going deep. He wants DeSean Jackson..who HAS IT!!! HE HAS IT!!! AND STEPPED INTO THE ENDZONE!! He took it away from the defender!! He took it away from Dominique Rogers-Cromarte, and ran into the endzone!!"

by McNabb2Maclin4Philly on Dec 21, 2009 5:13 PM EST reply actions  

There is a reason why there is no such thing as a “draft expert”… It’s all pure guessing.

RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.

by Imp on Dec 21, 2009 5:17 PM EST reply actions  

yep

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!

by Joe_D on Dec 21, 2009 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

did anyone see the eagle fan on sportsnation today LOL

by bkeagle718 on Dec 21, 2009 5:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

They really hit that one right on the head….

www.BirdsFan.com - A Philadelphia Eagles blog

by BirdsFan.com on Dec 21, 2009 5:25 PM EST reply actions  

ha ha, nice

they were right about him only getting 8-10 touches a game, i just dont think they realized each would be for 20+ yards

"Eli made a good tackle. I tried to run him over. ... Next time I'll try to jump over his head or something." - Asante Samuel

by abains007 on Dec 21, 2009 6:22 PM EST reply actions  

Is Laws still on the team? you sure don’t hear his name called much.

I'm not drunk I'm just drinking.

by no1pipelayer on Dec 21, 2009 6:47 PM EST reply actions  

this is why

I never pay any attention to the draft. Mel Kiper is a blowhard and a phony.

by philabronc53 on Dec 21, 2009 6:55 PM EST reply actions  

but he has nice hair

I bleed green and I piss silver and blue

by oldasquick on Dec 22, 2009 8:14 AM EST up reply actions  

8-10 touches

isn’t 8-10 touches a good amount for a receiver?

by philsfreak6 on Dec 21, 2009 6:56 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

haha

jack first round talent .. he got something right

An inconsistent coach is far worse than an inconsistent quarterback.(Route 36)

by jack is better than asante on Dec 21, 2009 7:36 PM EST reply actions  

hahahaha

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!

by Joe_D on Dec 21, 2009 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

GACK!!!!

JIB-STAIN!!!!
A consistent moron is a lot of fun to pick on – thanks for contributing JIBTA

by IggleGreen on Dec 21, 2009 9:00 PM EST up reply actions  

How would you grade this draft?

I would say the revised grade right now is B+. Jackson obviously is a Pro-Bowl caliber player but the rest?

2nd round (Trevor Laws, Desean Jackson) – He was the Eagles’ highest draft pick and is quickly approaching ‘bust’ status. He was inactive last week and barely seen any time this year on the field. He probably only sticks with the team next year because of his high draft status. Jackson has become the playmaker the Eagles were hoping and gambling on. Fortunate he dropped so much because of concerns about his size and off-field activities at Cal.

3rd round (Bryan Smith) – Wasted pick.

4th round (Mike McGlynn, Quintin Demps, Jack Ikegwuonu) – Demps still hasn’t been able to grab the starter job despite facing some mediocre competition at best. McGlynn likely won’t be on the roster next year and Eagles gambled/missed on Ikegwuonu recovering from his knee injury.

6h round (Mike Gibson, Joe Mays) – Gibson make the team. Coaching staff has really soured after Mays played poorly in training camp and has been inconsistent at best. Basically just a special teams player right now.

7th round (King Dunlap) – Another ‘depth pick’ who likely won’t be on the team next year.

It is very likely next year the Eagles will only have 3 players on their roster next year (Laws, Jackson, Demps) from this draft just 3 years removed with only 1 sure-fire starter. Dunlap & McGlynn likely won’t be back and can’t imagine this team keep Mays unless he shows he is really contributing as a special teams player.

Luckily Jackson was developed so much so quickly otherwise this draft would really have been a dud.

by MG77 on Dec 21, 2009 7:58 PM EST reply actions  

It's a B- at best

We got one pro bowler out of it and the rest are either S/T or lucky to be on the team. Typically you want at least two – three contributors. Looks like we got just one.

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!

by Joe_D on Dec 21, 2009 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

It depends on whether or not Demps can become a starter on this team.

by MG77 on Dec 21, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with this guys C

Other than D-Jack that draft was full of dreck.

I'm not drunk I'm just drinking.

by no1pipelayer on Dec 21, 2009 9:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Meanwhile

The guy the Eagles’ likely would have taken in the 1st round (Jeff Otah) has developed into a steady RT.

I would be curious to see what scouts think of Otah this year who is supposedly has been as good as advertised in run-blocking but has struggled at times with rushers on the edge.

by MG77 on Dec 21, 2009 8:02 PM EST reply actions  

Trading their 2008 #1 pick.

Eagles traded their 1st round pick for the Panthers’ 2nd round pick (47) and 4th round (109) and their 1st round pick in ‘09. They drafted Laws with the 2nd round pick and McGlynn with the 4th round pick. Both guys likely won’t be starters here and you have wonder just how much/if anything they will ever contribute. Panthers got the much better end of the deal here.

Eagles did take the 1st round pick in ’09 from Carolina though and use it as the lynchpin of acquiring Peters this offseason from Buffalo.

Guess you have to like how it eventually turned out because the Eagles took their #1 pick in 2008 and eventually turned in into their starting LT (Peters).

by MG77 on Dec 21, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

True

patterson and bunk were our obvious starters I’m assuming they thought laws was going to be a high caliber backup.

If DeSean wasn’t on his way to being an all pro WR u would have to rate this a pretty low draft.

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!

by Joe_D on Dec 21, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd say b+

Whenever you draft a star, especially when you don’t have a first round pick and you use that first round pick to trade for a pro bowl player that’s pretty damn good. Demps played as a rookie and has made plays in the return game. As for laws, he is playing behind some really good players.

by phillynyc on Dec 21, 2009 10:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Laws is now playing behind a midseason Redskins castoff Dixon.

I'm not drunk I'm just drinking.

by no1pipelayer on Dec 22, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

JIBTA , JIBTA ... PAGING JIBTA ...

Clean up on isle corner back , i repeat threes a waste on the floor in the corner back isle … clean up on isle corner back …

lol you know i love you JIBTA lol …

 if i didn’t love ya buddy i wouldn’t of donned that beautiful nickname on ya that everyone seems to love to hate lol … but seriously , poor sugar booger jack … i had real high hopes for him too bro but not too high..

i feel let down too … but then again i didn’t put my reputation on the line for him … i put my reputation on the line for a wide receiver that no one else really cared for that much … you may of heard of him or seen him before … in case you have not …

Desean Jackson baby !!!

"I think pro athletes should be forced to use steroids. I think we as fans deserve the greatest athletes science can create."- Daniel Tosh

If Football Had A Church , Brian Dawkins Would Be My Preacher. -NPK

by NorthPhillyKid on Dec 21, 2009 10:34 PM EST reply actions  

DJax is the man…. I can’t understand how sooo many people thought he wasn’t going to be that good of a player. I didn’t think he was going to anything but be a good PR and that is about all I thought.

I am glad that I was wrong and I am going to be on the lookout for anyother player that Jerry Rice says is the man. People, we should have listened to Jerry Rice. He is the greatest ever at his position.

T. Laws is a bust so far. I don’t really know what is up with him. Ohhh, I know, he played at Notre Dame. That is why Laws hasn’t done nothing.

by topcat6 on Dec 22, 2009 1:20 AM EST reply actions  

might be a dumb question but when or how often do we rotate our DT’s during games?

by Bo Jangles on Dec 22, 2009 2:41 AM EST reply actions  

You guys even read that crap. Look at Clevelands draft. Lol Brady Quinn was drafted in 07 and 08.

by regaberto on Dec 22, 2009 4:09 AM EST reply actions  

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