Trade Kolb?
by NJBammer on Dec 14, 2009 11:11 AM EST
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Any thoughts about this? We have #5 looking like a kid again, #7 proving that he can in fact run a real offense, and Kolb, all under contract next year. Kolb with 2 impressive outings this year when McNabb was out. Time to trade Kolb? Would a team trade anything to give him a shot? What kind of compensation would we get?
By comparison, the Falcons traded Matt Schaub for 2 2nd round picks a few years ago, which is about as much as I can see us getting for Kolb. Make any sense?
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If we are planning on keeping mcnabb
Then we should get something for him so he doesn’t just leave without us getting anything…
This draft class seems pretty deep at quarterback so it might not be a bad idea to trade him and then draft a quarterback in the second or third round.
Oh the Boy’s in December are frightful
But to me it’s just delightful
Jerry will tell the coach to go
How they blow, how they blow, how they blow.
I wouldn't do it.
Mike Vick has done some things here… but I still doubt he’ll be here next year. Plus, I still wouldn’t trust him to actually run the offense.
You need a good backup QB and that’s why Kolb is here.
Honestly
I don’t think Vick wants to be here next year
Vote Desean Jackson Pro Bowl 2010
by iKillCowboys on Dec 14, 2009 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe that depends...
…on if he does get more involved like he has been and if he gets a ring. You really never know.
If Vick gets a ring he'll have less reason to come back
Vick is committed to this team. He wants to get them a ring. Having accomplished that, he will set his mind back to personal glory.
Let’s face it: Michael Vick is not a backup quarterback. He’s not Pat White. He’s a three-time Pro Bowler and can start for a lot of teams. And I think that’s what he intends to me.
No matter how “involved” we get Vick, we are not going to start him over McNabb and he knows that. He wants to be an every-down quarterback and he deserves that shot. He’ll get that with another team
Only if
You do in fact own a time machine so that McNabb CAN be a kid again. Because he just isn’t. He’s playing good football and all that but he he’s been in this league for a decade which is quite a long time. Vick will have trade value after this year to start somewhere, which is what I think the plan was all along, he wasn’t meant to stay here.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
Such Dumbasses
are the colts grooming Sorgie ? dont worry about grooming a back-up ride mcnabb till the wheels fall off. Yeah mcnabb’s been in the league for a decade , so has Peyton,Brady,Palmer etc…stop worrying about grooming a successor (sp) Dmac is 33 and can prolly play another 5 years plus…so worry about it when he’s 37 or 38 and he John Elways it and leaves with 2 wins…Im putting in a request to get trade mcnabb talks of this site until we see trade Brady and trade Peyton posts on thier forums “since they are at max trade value” so please everyone STFU enjoy having one of the top Qb’s of the Decade,and actually one of the top Qb’s in history of football (H.O.F. talk) please….he’s a Qb not a Rb so playing for a decade doesnt matter…i.e. farve , warner
by Mikegeminsky on Dec 14, 2009 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
+1 million trillion billion gazillon
I’m so over these trade talks.
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
Hell freakin' yes....
Mcnabb is still in his prime and hasn’t lost a step in his passing ability. Andy got extended, I believe Mcnabb gets extended if he continues to play like this till the end of next year. No way should Banner and company let Kolb be a free agent after next year. Trade Kolb for a high first rounder and draft Case Keenum wth one of our firsts/or second. IMO best QB in the draft(you heard it here first). Screw Tebow, Mccoy and Bradford. They are all overrated. There are desperate teams looking for a starting QB right now.
Keenum led the nation in total offense two years in a row. 159 QB rating, 5449+ passing yards, 43 TDs to just 9 INTS. Ironically he is also from the University of Houston as well except unlike Kolb’s team, they are ranked in the top 25 and going to a bowl game. Groom Keenum for 3-4 years until Mcnabb retires and watch Keenum do his thing.
(video for those who don’t know him) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qamX8yLKBD4
Berry/Keenum 2010!
Andy Reid is 43-5 when running the ball at least 30 times in a game( Ray Diddy on Eagles Post Game Live after Bears Victory)
"Mcnabb...hasn’t lost a step in his passing ability"
in fairness, he hasn’t gained one, either.
human beings, who are almost unique in their ability to learn from the experiences of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.
by variablesdont on Dec 14, 2009 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
tough call,
I love Kolb, and McNabb. I would still trade McNabb, only because he would still demand a first rounder plus. Kolb may only demande a 2nd and a 5th or so.
Plus Kolb is younger.
Bleed green, or don't bleed at all!
There's no need to trade Kolb... or McNabb.
Nothing wrong with having 2 QB’s that can play football.
by JimmyK on Dec 14, 2009 12:02 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
On another note...Iz anyone else happy that we are finally use the No Huddle Off.!!
What..ever since the Chargers game. I was callin for us to do this last year. It keeps the D from subing in and out and tires them out! Im realllly happy that Dmac and MM stepped up and decided to go this route! It will help us against good defenses like the Broncos and Vikings!! Good move guy…better late then never hahaha
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
2 2nd round picks? For Sir Picks-A-Lot?
Hell yes. I will drive him to the airport.
"Right now Winston Justice is the guy...until that person gets back out there"
I wouldn't be against this if they draft a QB this year.
There is a pretty good crop coming out, so we may be able to get a young guy to build up for when McNabb truly is done. Hell, go back to University of Houston and get Case Keenum. That said, I don’t think it will happen. If anyone is getting traded, it’s Vick (as I’m assuming that was the plan all along).
The only way Vick can be traded is if the Eagles pickup his 5 mil a year option, then trade him. Possible but unlikely. I believe he will be a FA and signed by another team.
Andy Reid is 43-5 when running the ball at least 30 times in a game( Ray Diddy on Eagles Post Game Live after Bears Victory)
I don’t see how that’s unlikely. He’s a fine backup QB option, and $5M a year (after a heavily discounted first year) ain’t that bad. $5M a year for a STARTER, though, is one hell of a deal. $5M for a starter who will sell jerseys and put asses in seats is worth high draft picks. Eagles pick up the option and trade him.
I am the people's troll :3™
That's a very good point...
I totally forgot whoever trades for Vick would only have to pay him 5 mil the first year. In that case, hell yeah, pick up the option and trade him for at least a third.
Andy Reid is 43-5 when running the ball at least 30 times in a game( Ray Diddy on Eagles Post Game Live after Bears Victory)
by Route36 on Dec 14, 2009 5:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Picking up the option then trading him is not a stretch at all.
We know someone is gonna want him, so it’s worth our while to pick him up and trade him (probably immediately or close to it).
how good is this????
i’ve never been a fan of mcnabb (very nice game last night aside) but how many teams have the luxury of three qbs that have value… here’s how i see it working out:
1) no matter what mcnabb is gone…. getting a 1st rounder in 2010 and a second in 2011. (the pics go for help on defense which is scary right now.)
2) vick is resigned and kolb takes over with vick playing a much bigger role in the offense.
whatever???… go iggles.
by Elmo the faithful fan on Dec 14, 2009 2:10 PM EST reply actions
He is.
Take a look at his earlier posts, which revolve around such cleverly crafted nicknames as ‘mcstupid’ and ‘mcidiot’ to come through with his point.
At least it’s transparent stupidity.
Extended Mcnabb
He Finally Has Weapons….Weve seen Wat he cna do with none…..Now that he has an arsenal the skys the limit. Trade Kolb or resign him for backup money, but if its simply one or the other Ill take the proven entity.
In my honest opinion I see McNabb being somewhere else before
Kolb is… Kolbs to young and too talented and we’ve seen a taste of what he can do..
I truely thing that if any of them gets traded it will be McNabb and Vick… Plus McNabb will bring a bigger price tag.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
Totally Agree!
Kolb is a real QB in this league! He will lead us whenever Donnie is done here! Good news..Dmac or Kolb…our future looks very nice!!!!
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
Yeah it’s always tempting to try and play Madden with real NFL teams but the fact is a franchise QB is a franchise QB. It doesn’t matter if another team is dangling two 1st round picks in your face and you’re pretty sure you have a pretty good QB waiting in the wings. You don’t trade franchise QBs.
The Packers are an exception. I like Kevin Kolb, and I think he has a ton of potential, but we’re not sure he’s as good as Aaron Rodgers. I wouldn’t even take Aaron Rodgers over McNabb right now. Barring the unforeseen, McNabb has years ahead of him. We should trade Vick, and draft a QB this year. Kolb will be our #2 next year. We can trade Kolb after next season, and the guy we draft will be our “future of the franchise” assuming McNabb doesn’t pull a Favre and play into his late 60’s.
I am the people's troll :3™
We have #5 looking like a kid again
And his age still stand at 33 and his contract his him keeping him here in Philly for rest of this season and next. And our FO doesn’t resign 35 year old players.
And I do NOT want a QB in this upcoming draft class…
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
Tebow – Spread QB, won’t be able to adapt to pro level
McCoy – Spread QB, weak arm strength
Bradford – How many surgeries on that throwing arm?
Clausen – Last QB to go in first round from Notre Dame? Brady Quinn. Before that? I don’t know, but it predates this decade so it’s not like that place had many successful QB.
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
i think
tebow may be good at the next level… But dont start argueing with me over it b/c honestly I dont care what you have to say about it.
McCoy actually has a decent arm and he’s a good runner, he will most definantly be good at the next level in the right situation.
Bradford had 1 injury, I see him as a good QB in the NFL
Clausen has great upside, but I truely dont see him as a starter till year 2-3 in the NFL.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
You can find something negative for every single solitary college QB... ever.
Peyton Manning – Never won a bowl game – can’t win the big one
Philip Rivers – Funky 3-quarter arm delivery – will have to change his mechanics to play in the NFL
Drew Brees – Weak arm
Tom Brady – Lost his starting job in college
Donovan McNabb – Syracuse mainly ran the option
Ben Roethlisberger – Played in a minor conference – no competition in college
Trade Talk Nonsense
All this trade talk is a bunch of nonsense. The Eagles have a trio of good QBs they should keep as long as possible. As an ole Californian who also followed the 49ers during the Montana Young days, the 49ers had a similar situation. Young played a few years behind Montana before getting his start……after Montana was on his way down and traded, even though he had a couple good years left in him at KC. When Young took over, the 49ers and Jerry Rice didn’t miss a beat. Young took them to the Superbowl too.
Elway played many many years before he could win a Superbowl. Manning…the Colts Manning….has just as many years as Donovan. Curt Warner is older than Donovan and still very productive. QBs who aren’t seriously injured during their career can play 12-15 years or longer and still be competitive. The Eagles finally have a team with all the right weapons in place…..and depth at several key positions. Something they haven’t had in the past. A potential pro bowl tightend with a good backup….and with Ingram and Bradley coming back next year, who knows what lies ahead. Trade talk about any of the QBs is nonsense at this time. Keep them all. The team will be set for the future with all the young players the Eagles have now. A young team with a veteran QB….a veteran backup QB and a QB who can do whatever the Eagles ask him to do…………..sounds like a winning formula to me.
Totally Agree
Kolb’s talent’s being wasted on the sidelines. Seriously. Trade him to the Skins or someone…
We can draft one this offseason or the next. (Sam Bradford, anybody?)
Wishlist:
[Desean Jackson] -for- [1,000 Receiving Yards] -currently- [947]
[Asante Samuel] -for- [9 Interceptions] -currently- [7]
[Trent Cole] -for- [12.5 Sacks] -currently- [9.5]
[Michael Vick] -for- [4 Rushing Touchdowns] -currently- [2]
why would you trade a good player to a division rival … idiotic.
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
Trading Kolb to the Skins...
…means we can rest assured that we’re going to beat them twice a year, every year. Let Kolb’s pick-6’s benefit US for a change. His cotton candy floaters are perfect for our voracious CB’s to snack on and run back.
"Right now Winston Justice is the guy...until that person gets back out there"
Trading Kolb would be a mistake he knows the system has shown he can play. If you trade Kolb you are putting all your eggs in one basket. Then we have to draft another QB and bring him up probably much faster then we want to.
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
Philly fans are one of a kind...
I really don’t understand the majority of eagles fans… i love donovan and i would never want to see him wear any other uniform… What is wrong with you people like people have said in previous posts mcnabb is the same age as peyton so get used to it he’ll be here for a long long time… and i welcome that… every eagles fan was ready to behead kolb when he had those horrible games in relief of mcnabb (baltimore, carolina) i had to hear that he wasn’t ready to be a backup that he coudnt’ carry us til mcnabb got back… he had to good games now your saying that he’s better then mcnabb… what?!… don’t know who we would trade kolb or mcnabb… wow… pull your head out of your asses Mcnabb is our qb and will be til the day he tearingly says thanks for the great time eagles fans and enjoy those superbowls i gave ya… lol get over yourselves and just enjoy watching the best qb in our franchise history
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