This will be fun...

by Clyde Simmons on Dec 14, 2009 9:39 AM EST Comment 66 comments

I know, I know, after this big win this isn't what everyone wants to talk about....

BUT....Peter King had an interesting tidbit in his MMQB:

e. Interesting tidbit from respected St. Louis Post-Dispatch columnist Bernie Miklasz: "I would not be surprised, at all, to see the Rams make a play for Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Michael Vick after the season.'' I agree.

f. Also would not be surprised to see the Rams make a very quiet inquiry about Donovan McNabb after the season either. Not saying the Eagles would make such a deal (two second-rounders and a four for McNabb?), but Kevin Kolb will be a fourth-year player, and Philly's not going to be able to keep him until McNabb retires.

I brought up the possibility of trading McNabb after some of his lesser performances, but even after the great one last night, I still would consider trading McNabb for 2 2nds and a 4th, that is how good I feel about Kolb. At some point the McNabb era is going to come to an end...you have a guy behind him who looks like a winner, are you really going to give up on the 4 years of development he has had for a couple more years hoping McNabb can win a championship? I feel that if he doesn't do it this year, it is time. We could REALLY use those picks to rebuild our defense...we need saftey help (Sean Jones tackling will not cut it), D line help, LB help (more depth assuing STU is healthy), CB help (who doesn't?) and O-line help (unless we still have faith in the Andrews)....that is a long list of help.

The Vick comment is also exciting, because if Vick turns into a 3rd round draft choice or higher, I will be ecstatic.

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Vick for Steven Jackson. Thats fair right?

Vote Desean Jackson Pro Bowl 2010

by iKillCowboys on Dec 14, 2009 9:57 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

This makes me feel dirty,

But I agree with you. If we don’t win a ring this year we should probably trade McNabb and get the goods for him. I’d forgotten that we have put 4 years into Kolb, it’s time to turn the page when the gettin’s good. I’d like some extra 2nds.

by thwalls on Dec 14, 2009 10:22 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Zero chance

that we send 5 to the Rams. First of all i dont think this organization which has built its entire franchise around the guy would send him somewhere that bad.

5 is playing some his best football ever.

He’s staying here

Dont Disrespect the Level

by 700 Level on Dec 14, 2009 10:29 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

so…the Eagles would only send him to a good team? That makes sense?

And he is playing well, but lets not be sentimental, this is a business and we have a 2 round pick and 4 years invested in the future.

This team has ALWAYS been built around Defense, and we need draft picks to rebuild that defense. 2 2nd round picks is enough to get some really nice players…maybe even the Dawkins of the future (who was a 2nd round pick himself).

I think, with the weapons we have now Kolb could play just as effectively.

by Clyde Simmons on Dec 14, 2009 11:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I want 5 to stay here.

Period

Dont Disrespect the Level

by 700 Level on Dec 14, 2009 3:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Vick

If he can land us a 2nd round pick from the Rams (which would essentially be a late 1st rounder), I will legitimately shit my pants.

by birds'n'raiders on Dec 14, 2009 10:34 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

me too

by Clyde Simmons on Dec 14, 2009 11:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Don't see it

Can’t see any package which would be ok to let McNabb leave. You don’t have to think he’s a future HOF-er to know he’s a very very good QB, and those are not that easy to find in the NFL, ask Cleveland. He stays and maybe we deal Kolb, I can see that happening for a high 2nd/low 1st.

"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." - Bear Bryant

by NJBammer on Dec 14, 2009 10:46 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

We can't trade Kolb for a 2nd

we took him as a second and invested 4 years into him…how can we give him away for a second? That’s basically a terrible investment of 4 years of grooming.

"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs

by jalarsen1 on Dec 14, 2009 11:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I don’t think it would be a terrible investment considering he has been a good backup for McNabb when needed. It is not like we never used him. I think it’d be even tough to find a team willing to give a 2nd rounder for Kolb though.

by justyn725 on Dec 14, 2009 11:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

AJ Feely was traded for a 2nd round pick…AJ Feely…

by Clyde Simmons on Dec 14, 2009 12:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Good point...forgot about him...

by justyn725 on Dec 14, 2009 12:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

So...maybe a 2nd rounder would work...

by justyn725 on Dec 14, 2009 12:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

AJ Feeley was coming of going 5-1 for the Eagles to end the season and Miami desperately needed a QB.

Jim Johnson 1941-2009

"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009

by Whodie126 on Dec 17, 2009 8:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Well…Tom Brady seems to be on his way down too…maybe the Pats should trade him. How about the Manning, he threw a bunch of ints…Colts should trade him too and get some picks. No…we’re not trading McNabb.

by justyn725 on Dec 14, 2009 10:57 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Good point

Dont Disrespect the Level

by 700 Level on Dec 14, 2009 10:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I see your point

but I dont think its that simple. Those two are on another level and more importantly, they do not have a young guy waiting to take over that has showed alot of potential.

Its a really tough situation, kolb or mcnabb will be gone after this year. No way you let one of these guys walk after next season when they are free agents and get no value for him.

So do we extend mcnabb for another 2-3 years and hope he can keep playing at a high level, while letting go a “potential” franchise qb. Not saying he is yet, but we dont know and he has shown flashes of excellence.

by Tbot86 on Dec 14, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Thank you…this is it. You have a young guy read to take over.

For every Tom Brady and P Manning story you bring up….I am just going to bring up that Tom Brady played behind Drew Bledsoe, also a pro bowl QB.

by Clyde Simmons on Dec 14, 2009 11:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

This is really complicated

Vick, I assume is gone…so we’re left with Kolb and McNabb…

I’d love to keep both, but that’s probably unlikely…here’s the problem I see.

If we trade Kolb we need to get a 1st rounder (which won’t happen), otherwise 4 years of grooming is a completely wasted investment. We took him as a second, and groomed him…how can you just give him away 4 years of training later for the same thing you got him with. He’s simply worth more (to us at least) than the raw pick we used to get him.

If we trade McNabb, we give the reigns to a promising youngster with essentially no backup. That worries me a lot concerning depth. We have the luxury of feeling confident right now in our QB depth…I think that’s going to change drastically REALLY soon!

by jalarsen1 on Dec 14, 2009 12:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

this is also a QB rich draft class, it will be easier to trade a veteran like McNabb than Kolb. I expect that we will be able to find a good QB to be Kolb’s backup and provide some competition should we Trade Vick and McNabb

by Clyde Simmons on Dec 14, 2009 12:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Why would someone trade for McNabb if the draft is QB rich?

by justyn725 on Dec 14, 2009 12:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

really? Did Matt Stafford come in and make an instant impact this season?

by Clyde Simmons on Dec 14, 2009 12:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Hell yes he did...

He just doesn’t have much of anything around him…except for Calvin Johnson. It is hard to be good when you’re sacked so much. At least they pulled off some wins this year…

by justyn725 on Dec 14, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

You can probably make a much stronger case

for QBs being more successful long-term if they aren’t forced to start right away.

by jalarsen1 on Dec 14, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

That IS

The Aaron Rodgers dilemma from two years ago. I say that Donovan plays one more season after this. Franchise him after that year and trade him.

Wishlist:
[Desean Jackson] -for- [1,000 Receiving Yards] -currently- [947]
[Asante Samuel] -for- [9 Interceptions] -currently- [7]
[Trent Cole] -for- [12.5 Sacks] -currently- [9.5]
[Michael Vick] -for- [4 Rushing Touchdowns] -currently- [2]

by D-JAX! on Dec 16, 2009 5:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I've been saying all along

that I think Kolb is our Aaron Rodgers

by jalarsen1 on Dec 16, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I'd be curious to see

if we trade McNabb, but end up keeping both Vick and Kolb so we have some depth.

Not that I think that will happen, I would just rather see us keep two of our 3 QBs rather than lose 2…this seems to be the only even remotely likely pair that we could keep.

I can’t see us trading Kolb, but keeping McNabb and Vick

I don’t even think I see us trading Vick, while keeping Kolb and McNabb…Kolb’s ready to go, and someone’s going to want to pay him for it.

IF we’re going to keep two (which we likely won’t), kinda seems like McNabbs the odd man out

by jalarsen1 on Dec 14, 2009 2:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Fine…how about Tarvaris Jackson showed a lot of promise last year…maybe the Vikings should trade Favre at the end of the season (first player to play for every team and retire every season).

Of course…we can compare situations all day. I just think McNabb is an excellent QB and looks to still have a lot left in him. I say we trade Vick and try our hardest to hold onto Kolb…if we get a good offer though, I don’t think we can wait. Afterall…it doesn’t have to take too long for someone to be groomed as a started…Tom Brady started his second year and led them to the SuperBowl…we could draft someone this year in the 6th round and they could lead us in two years…who knows…but I think in the end we can only keep one and now is still the time for McNabb.

by justyn725 on Dec 14, 2009 11:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I wasnt saying one option is better than the other, just saying its a much more complicated situation than you originally compared it too.

I would love to figure out a way to keep kolb and mcnabb for another 3 years. But its not going to happen, kolb is not going to sign a backup deal, he wants to play and I know there are teams willing to give him some money.

I am not really offering a resolution, bottom line is that this sucks. I really dont know what you do here, I cant see a way that reid trades mcnabb if he continues to play well. And if we trade kolb, I cant see us getting much. MAYBE a late 1st, but even that could be tough considering the qb draft class. Unless some dumb team goes crazy and offers us like a 1st and 2nd for kolb, I dont think we are going to like the resolution of this problem.

by Tbot86 on Dec 14, 2009 11:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree…it is a complex situation with probably not clear resolution. I just can’t imagine that a team would trade their franchise QB. Everything has been build up around McNabb and I think he still has a lot left. Not to mention, who would risk taking a veteran QB with a history of injuries when they can just draft someone and train them to their format and have them for a long time.

There is not telling what Kolb really wants, unless you know him. And there really isn’t telling if anybody would actually want him or find a way to fit them into their scheme. Two games just don’t show a whole lot to make a team jump all over someone.

by justyn725 on Dec 14, 2009 11:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree with your point on mcnabb, it would be crazy to trade him this offseason. but your assertion that kolb might be ok with being a backup is a little naive.

whether or not he wants to be a starter is not important, its about the money. we wont give him much money to be a back up. some team out there will give him a deal and see if he can be a starter. I dont think he will get a 10 mil a year deal but someone will give him a deal. Theres no doubt in that, there would be almost no risk, all you lose is some money, instead of losing a first round draft pick AND a bunch of money.

by Tbot86 on Dec 14, 2009 12:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

We don’t know what anybody really wants. We’re all just guessing. For all we know, Kolb just wants to win and be there is needed…maybe a SuperBowl ring will encourage him to have hopes of starting for the Eagles soon enough.

by justyn725 on Dec 14, 2009 12:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Money is pretty universal, people generally want more of it. I think someone would probably pay him 4-5 mil a year, compared to 1-2 mil a year we would pay him to be a back up.

I like the optimism, I would love to keep him and mcnabb around, but I dont think you are being realistic here.

by Tbot86 on Dec 14, 2009 12:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Do I have to be realistic when we are all just guessing and estimating? We really don’t know much of anything…and I just want that point made. For all we know, we get to the Superbowl and all three of them get hurt and are out for their careers…anything can happen. We really won’t know anything until it happens.

by justyn725 on Dec 14, 2009 12:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed…we dont know anything. But I believe it is safe to assume that someone wants more money, I think theres enough history of people liking money to safely predict that kolb will go where there is more money.

If it makes you feel better, I will say that Kolb is VERY likely to sign with another team rather than backup mcnabb for another 3 years.

and back to the main point, this means it is VERY unlikely to keep both QBs, so I think we are going to be a little pist this offseason.

by Tbot86 on Dec 14, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

And its likely that there will be 4-5 posts a week that deal with this same discussion until we get rid of two QBs…

We wait forever to get this much firepower and all we do is talk about getting rid of it.

by justyn725 on Dec 14, 2009 12:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

well, we can trade one of them this offseason and get something for them. or we can wait another year and get nothing.

I certainly would love to keep em both, but I would rather get a pick for one of them rather than keep him for an extra year and get nothing.

by Tbot86 on Dec 14, 2009 12:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Tarvaris Jackson never showed any promise…

by Clyde Simmons on Dec 14, 2009 12:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

lol at this topic...

Let’s trade our top 7 QB so we can give our backup who proved he can beat the Chiefs a chance! I’m not even going to argue who is better because Kolb can’t hold a candle to Donovan still in his prime.

I also don’t get how people are still fantasizing about trading Vick. He is a FREE AGENT after this season. Eagles are not picking up his option.

Andy Reid is 43-5 when running the ball at least 30 times in a game( Ray Diddy on Eagles Post Game Live after Bears Victory)

by Route36 on Dec 14, 2009 11:23 AM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs

I think your wrong about both those things. The Eagles would be stupid not to pick up his option. 5 Million for a QB with Vick’s potential is a fair price, and it will be easy to trade him.

Secondly, Donavon is an inconsistent QB. Yes, he is healthy and just had a great game, but lets not forget games like he had against SD and Oak…the passes he made last night were more due to having incredibly too much time in the pocket and wide open receivers.

Did you see how open Djax was on that post? Donavon could have lead him another 5 yards and the defender would have had no prayer at the ball.

by Clyde Simmons on Dec 14, 2009 11:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

For all we know, Kolb could be the most inconsistent QB in history. Two games really mean nothing. What if he nevers plays another good game again or he throws a thousand picks…he hasn’t been given the chance and I don’t think we can give up on McNabb when he pulls out the wins for our team.

by justyn725 on Dec 14, 2009 11:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Well, I don’t think we can give up on Kolb when he could be the next Payton Manning either…

Everything about decisions like this are what ifs…. What if Donavon has some years left in the tank? What if he doesn’t? What if Donavon tears his shoulder and never plays again? What if he doesn’t?

For me, getting a haul of picks to make your team better with a backup who has proved himself capable and apparently looks great in practice and every game he has played in is a wise choice for the FRANCHISE.

by Clyde Simmons on Dec 14, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

4 straight wins during the toughest part of our schedule buddy. 3 of those wins, QB rating over 100. When Donovan has a bad game, he sucks. When he has good games, it’s because he had too much time. Fuckin’ ridiculous.

Andy Reid is 43-5 when running the ball at least 30 times in a game( Ray Diddy on Eagles Post Game Live after Bears Victory)

by Route36 on Dec 14, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

The Bears, Redskins and cripple Falcons are the toughest part of our schedule?

And if you give any QB in this league 6 seconds to throw the ball in the pocket they are going to complete a pass…not all the f’in ridiculous buddy.

by Clyde Simmons on Dec 14, 2009 12:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

6 seconds?

The most time Mcnabb had behind the pocket was 4.3 seconds when NBC timed it on the Desean bomb for a TD. How many times did we see Mcnabb elude rushers and complete a pass last night. I think at least 5-6 times he made a play because of his pocket awareness and elusiveness.

The Bears, Redskins and cripple Falcons are the toughest part of our schedule?

Why leave out the Giants game last night? What do you think the toughest part of our schedule is? The first 7 games when we played teams including the Panthers, Bucs, Chiefs, Raiders and Washington?

I won’t waste anymore time arguing with a hopeless hater.

Andy Reid is 43-5 when running the ball at least 30 times in a game( Ray Diddy on Eagles Post Game Live after Bears Victory)

by Route36 on Dec 14, 2009 12:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

Forgot to mention it was AT Bears, AT Falcons, and AT Giants. As 85 would say, “Child please!”

Andy Reid is 43-5 when running the ball at least 30 times in a game( Ray Diddy on Eagles Post Game Live after Bears Victory)

by Route36 on Dec 14, 2009 12:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Wow...

casting me off as a hopeless hater….then insulting my maturity…you sure got me there.

How about the NY, Cowboys, SD, Bears, definitely a much harder schedule, and we dropped 2 of the games.

I don’t even see why this matters…I was just trying to point out how rediculous the statement that Donavon just played well in the toughest part of the schedule…HE LOST to the Raiders and looked incapable of throwing a pass on target that game, or finding any rhythm.

Yes Donavon is a great QB, but he has a lot of flaws including the games he doesn’t show up. Everything is clicking right now, we have a run game, our O-line is playing fantastic, and Donavon is in on top of his game.

All I am saying is that we are in a situation where you have to make a decision on where the future of your franchise is going. Personally, I would rather see this franchise move into a new era by collecting a whole bunch of draft picks to rebuild the defense, and give Kolb a legitimate chance to start, he has more than earned it in my opinion.

If you want to argue about how good Donavon is, and has been, and cast me off as a hater so be it, but that is not what I am trying to do…I agree Donavon has been a great QB for this team and will be in the Eagle Hall of Fame.

by Clyde Simmons on Dec 14, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

We're not in the situation yet though...

We can’t trade anybody right now…we can just sit back and watch the Eagles kick ass in the playoffs and enjoy!

by justyn725 on Dec 14, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I still think its fun to talk about…

I think we all like playing GM, or we wouldn’t be reading this blog.

by Clyde Simmons on Dec 14, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

McNabb isn't going anywhere, people.

Who know’s what happens with Vick during the offseason, but next year McNabb will be the starter and Kolb will be the heir apparent. After that, I don’t know what will happen. It’ll depend on how well McNabb plays, but right now he’s playing as good as he ever has. We’d be stupid to trade away one of the best QB’s in the league.

The Eagles are the first team in NFL history to have a running back and a wide receiver with 500 yards apiece in the same season before their 22nd birthdays.

by Smitty2K3 on Dec 14, 2009 12:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

BTW

Why in the hell are we talking about what we can get for McNabb if we trade him? Did you actually see the game last night. He played a hell of a game and was a huge reason why we won.

The Eagles are the first team in NFL history to have a running back and a wide receiver with 500 yards apiece in the same season before their 22nd birthdays.

by Smitty2K3 on Dec 14, 2009 12:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

AGREED...

We can’t be happy with what we have right now obviously…

by justyn725 on Dec 14, 2009 12:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Because when he doesn’t we have the same argument….

by Clyde Simmons on Dec 14, 2009 12:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

It wont be 5

that disapoints us this year….I’m more worried about the D.
There are many good facts and opinions that would/could be beneficial with the trade of 5, but lets worry about Denver. period.

I've been sayin wait til next year for 31 years....

R.I.P. JJ

by DoctaWoo on Dec 14, 2009 12:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Well we still have San Francisco first, but I know what you mean.

If there’s anybody or anything that disappoints us this year, I think it’ll be the defense too. Regardless of what I think was a fluke game last night where we looked like a JV team trying to tackle, I still think we have a great defense. Do we have a championship defense though? That’s the important question. A lot of problems that need fixed. The non-pressure and non-tackling last night was very worrisome.

The Eagles are the first team in NFL history to have a running back and a wide receiver with 500 yards apiece in the same season before their 22nd birthdays.

by Smitty2K3 on Dec 14, 2009 12:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

For some reason the Eagles always have troubles with Eli.

I dunno is he is just really good at reading our D…but he makes outstanding passes against us that we have no chance to defend against.

by Clyde Simmons on Dec 14, 2009 12:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Really??

Earlier in the year he had a QB rating of 55.7 against us and only threw for 222 yards with 1 TD and 2 INTs while only completing 50% of his passes.

Then last year we played him three times and these were his lines:

-17 for 31 for 191 yards with 2 TDs and 1 INT
-13 for 27 for 123 yards with 1 TD and 0 INT
-15 for 29 for 169 yards with 0 TD and 2 INTs

I don’t know, but that doesn’t appear to be like very good lines for a QB. Last night had to be, by far, his best game against us.

The Eagles are the first team in NFL history to have a running back and a wide receiver with 500 yards apiece in the same season before their 22nd birthdays.

by Smitty2K3 on Dec 14, 2009 2:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I seem to remember many miraculous comebacks and passes with Plaxico where Eli just threw the ball up and it ended up being perfect.

by Clyde Simmons on Dec 14, 2009 8:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

err...

on my part…But yeah!…lol One game at a time,
thx smitty

I've been sayin wait til next year for 31 years....

R.I.P. JJ

by DoctaWoo on Dec 14, 2009 12:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

sorry i'm not taking the time to read everything above this at the moment

but didnt we establish the fact several months ago that if the Eagles wont both QBs back next year, they will be?

Kolb has no choice if the Eagles want him back, he’s back

Dont Disrespect the Level

by 700 Level on Dec 14, 2009 3:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

*want

Dont Disrespect the Level

by 700 Level on Dec 14, 2009 3:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I can see something happening involving all of our QB's

for the right price…
McNabb should give us a 1st, he’s got 2-3 seasons left.
and the rest you can just work out yourself.

thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro

by wild_eagle on Dec 14, 2009 3:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

This Coversation is Assinine

Mcnabb is having the second best season of his Career! Its. not like his play is declining farve is 40 surely Mcnabb is capable of cont to lead u as farve is leading the vikes. He should not play in any other uniform and should retire an eagle…….Lets be real He just now has had the luxury of having weapons…….why would we say goodbye to the best qb in franchise history and a future hall of famer? for a prospect who has 1Win to his credit vs KC?? Let him grow with these young weapons and we will be rewarded for it as Denver was with Elway.

by CJ's Eagles on Dec 14, 2009 6:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

All of this is speculation

I feel like this conversation is had every other week and we’ve all said our peace each and every week about this topic.

In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt

by Eaglesgrl5 on Dec 15, 2009 8:56 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

This is not at all far fetched and very conceivable.

Jim Johnson 1941-2009

"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009

by Whodie126 on Dec 17, 2009 8:44 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Again philly fans crack me up...

Let’s see where to begin again… asi have said in a diff thread… Mcnabb is the best QB in franchise history… Pull your head out of your asses and realise that your watching the best player we have seen in an Eagles uniform… It’s fans like you that give Mcnabb a bad name… When mcnabb went down against carolina kolb had a terrible forth quarter… and i remember all you same fans bashing kolb for his performances last year and the carolina gam… he has 2 good games now your ready to get rid of the best player on our team… you guys are honestly retarded you think that if you read colts/patriots forums they are talking about backup qbs… mcnabb is 33 so is peyton no talks of retirement he still has how many years he wants… you guys will realise what we lost when mcnabb retires… or because of you idiots gets traded… kevin kolb when it came to crunch time against the saints if you remember threw that pick six to basically put us in the unsermountable hole and he had a good game against an abismal kc team…. good for him… you were trying to tar and feather him prior to those starts cuz of his bad play in previous opportunities now your ready to hand him our franchise wow guys… thats all i have to say… heres my advice for all you guys… pull your head out of your ass and actually watch a game… mcnabb is so hard to bring down and hes ever elusive he makes our team go… you say he could have led jackson so the d back had no chance on the ball.. you realise that there is like 60 yards from point a to point b… lets see you say he had a bad game against SD ughm yea cuz 400+ passing yards is a terrible performance… ughm the defense let us down that game allowing san diego to kill 5+ minutes when our offense was scoring uncontrollabley… do what you want say what you want but Mcnabb is the best player we have ever seen in an eagles uniform and just wish you guys could shut up long enough to enjoy watching him play…and to say he has bad games… oh no so does every other player in the league look at manning the last few games he’s been average at best his defense has won most of those prior games…

by 5savestd on Dec 17, 2009 12:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs