and I will call this move well worth it. Lurie is rich as shit. He threw some cap money at a guy in a gamble that he would spark interest and get his team some more room to work with on draft day. If that was actually his plan it was a great idea. If it wasn’t his plan than he is just another lucky ass rich guy because I think it’ll work out that way.

Vick at one point was a play maker (not a good QB). He’s just not bringing much to the offense yet, but then again he’s only getting one snap a game. Can’t get 1 snap a game and expect a huge play every time.

He will never fit into the system when he’s not a steady contributor. in fact, whenever he steps on the field it doesnt even seem like Andy is giving him a chance to throw the ball down field. the fact that it is blatantly obvious that every Vick play is going to be a run, is wasting his skills and alerting the defenses to stop the run.

It orginally seemed that Andy was holding Vick back because we were playing preseason games, or we were playing the chiefs and Bucs. But now that we are getting into some division games and tougher contests against better teams, Andy still hasn’t shown that Vick can pass more than 8 yrds.

Sure Vick was aware from the game for 2 years plus, but he didn’t lose the ability to throw more than 20 yards down field. let’s let him air it out once in awhile and really make the defenses keep guessing, then the runs will be more effective.

Either way Vick is gone next year, hopefully for more than a 4th. I’m thinking at least 2nd. Kolb is the future for this team once McNabb is gone.

as long as he avoids interceptions.

If Reid / Vick takes any kind of risk whatsoever, not only is his trade value shit, but both said people will get crucified for the decision (and obviously vice-versa – if it goes well, we’ll be like ‘BEST IDEA EVER’)

Its a losing battle no matter what – I would love to see what Vick could do, as I’ll admit the excitement when we picked him up for the potential he gave a Wildcat offense, but as it was so adequately stated in other forums, the Wildcat really is for teams that dont have options. Last night probably wouldve been a better night to use a little frivolously considering 5 didnt do much in the passing game.

sigh Welcome to Eagles football…

The problem is Reid treated the wildcat the same way used to treat the running game: he tried it a few times early, it didn’t work and he abandoned it. What happened to Desean taking snaps in the backfield, the jet sweeps and all that stuff? The idea is to put the ball in your playmaker’s hands and it’s doubtful Vick will ever be one again he’s at the age where most RBs lose a step.

The whole Vick thing is just embarrassing.
Why?

Vick looked confused in the last pre season game which was only 7 weeks ago. No one can miss pro football for 2 yrs and come back thinking they can still play at that level. He needs to chill and learn how to be a professional from Dmac. He also needs to watch what he says to the media because it could me misconstrued, the Eagles gave him a chance when nobody will and he’ll be better off not leaving an impression that he’s not that grateful.

Besides I don’t see Vick making the same type of impact he made when he last played. I do agree that Andy needs to maybe give him garbage time to throw the ball though.

With vick throwing the ball or they would have used it already. To me he’s a waste of a roster spot. Couldn’t let djack hand off or run a sweep?

half Banner buy-low/sell high, half Reid salivating over what Vick could do. If you cared, you could go back and look at the posts I made at the time.

The intention was always to grab him this year and sell hiim to the highest bidder this offseason; you can tell by the contract they created.

Only the eventual haul will determine whether this was worth the PR hit and getting rid of Feeley as 3rd stringer.

It’s a calucalated risk that even if it pans out only to be a mid-round pick, didn’t really cost the Eagles that much, IMHO

I agree with the people who think it would behoove us to showcase him, and I too was excited about the possibilities of Vick coming into the game from time to time. But it’s clear that the Eagles struggle enough already with three-and-outs and such, and they’re trying not to get too cute with Vick.

It is NOT Vicks fault. Reid or MM gives Vick the play and sends him to the huddle. Vicks job is to run the play called. If it’s a Handoff play, shuffle pass, option run or if Vick is just a Decoy, that’s what he executes. He can’t call an audible and make check downs. Reid is Killing the more offensive potential we could have. Why keep running the same plays with Vick over and over. I believe we can all agree that when we see Vick in we can easily predict run!!! Either a called run (of some sort) or a shuffle pass. I dont blame Vick for the lack of success. Vick has an arm, if u let him drop back, look for his receivers and if no ones open tell him to take off, we could be seriously dangerous on offense. Nope. Reid wants to do it HIS way. And the crazy part is he KEEPS doin this thinkn that he’s FOOLING somebody. U gotta let Vick throw to keep the D guess’n and most importantly honest!

If this is how they’re going to use him, I wish they’d have just run the wildcat with DeSean or LeSean and not taken the PR hit.

In my opinion, I don’t see Vick staying here and doing anything productive so my question is…

When do we trade him? Can we trade him at the end of the season to another team? Would another team take that gamble considering we might not exercise his option or would they exercise his option and then try and trade him?

Showcasing his talent in our games is important to some extent but he always has the opportunity to try out with another team and showcase his talents one on one. I’m sure, either way, he’ll have some sort of interest out there looking for a QB.

First off I believe everything starts with attitude, if you say you can’t do something then you are right. I think a lot of the issue with Vick is he has no determination or motivation to succeed in the wildcat.

Maybe it’s pride or maybe it’s foolishness but he believes he should be a starter. He may be right but the fact of the matter is no one was going to hand him a starting role. The Eagles went out on a limb and they deserve his absolute best (and maybe that’s what they are getting).

I’ve noticed the lack of hustle and passion he shows when he trots out on the field and that body language speaks to the players. I think that is a factor in why the plays he runs are so anemic. The first step in making something happen is believing that it can happen.

And all the talk about Vick coming to Buffalo to be our next starting quarterback… I hope for our sake we dont go after him. Pre-jail he was a very exciting player to watch, had speed and play making ability. Now its clear he has lost a step or two and where he wasnt that great of a passer before… taking 2 years off hasnt helped that at all. I believe he can still be in this league but not as a STARTING quarterback.

I see alot of you guys are complaining about the way he is being used… and I watch alot of Eagles games due to my roommate being an Eagles fan. And I would have to say I agree with you. He comes in for one or two plays a game and they are draws up the middle… nothing creative. If you’re going to use him, use 100% of him… let him rollout, let him throw, let him do what he did best before he went to jail, improvise. If not why not let your best offensive player (Jackson) take the wildcat run. He did last year didnt he?