Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: NCAA Tournament Bubble Watch

I totally agree with Michael Vick

In an interview with Bob Costas before last night's game, Michael Vick had this to say about what he wants to be doing next year.

"I won't be a Wildcat guy. I can't," Vick told NBC. "It's a different style of play. It's almost like a hit-or-miss type of thing. My position is quarterback. That's what I was born to do."

I totally agree with the bolded part. It's fairly obvious that Michael Vick can't come in for one or two plays a game and do anything effective. The Vick experiment as it stands now is DOA. I don't really blame Vick per se, since the way he's used gives him very little chance to make a play but then again I'm not sure he's ready to handle much more anyway...

Vick also expressed to Costas that it would be tough to come back to the Eagles next year as a backup/wildcat player.

"It would be hard," Vick said of returning to the Eagles, according to excerpts released by NBC. "It would be an everyday struggle. But I would have to take that time to hone my skills and get better. I'm excited about the opportunity I have moving forward whether it's with Philadelphia or another team."

Basically Vick wants to be a starting QB next year... and you know what? I think the Eagles do too. I think the Eagles wanted that all along. Not starting here, but starting for whatever team offers the most in terms of picks this offseason. Watching the state of QB play around the league this past weekend, there has to be 5 or 6 teams that would be seriously interested in having a guy like Mike Vick as their starting QB. Especially considering that the Eagles have absorbed the brunt of the PR hit for bringing him back.

Comment 29 comments  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

Anything 4th round or better...

and I will call this move well worth it. Lurie is rich as shit. He threw some cap money at a guy in a gamble that he would spark interest and get his team some more room to work with on draft day. If that was actually his plan it was a great idea. If it wasn’t his plan than he is just another lucky ass rich guy because I think it’ll work out that way.

by IgglesFanDeployd on Nov 9, 2009 4:22 PM EST reply actions  

Worth the gamble

Vick at one point was a play maker (not a good QB). He’s just not bringing much to the offense yet, but then again he’s only getting one snap a game. Can’t get 1 snap a game and expect a huge play every time.

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!

by Joe_D on Nov 9, 2009 4:30 PM EST reply actions  

yeah

he hasn’t really gotten an opportunity here.

I don’t really know what he has left as an athletic QB he just looks like a shell of him self. I don’t know what made people think that after being in jail for two years he would just step onto the field and be the same.

Let's get it Birds.

by homestar2281 on Nov 9, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

i agree with Vick

He will never fit into the system when he’s not a steady contributor. in fact, whenever he steps on the field it doesnt even seem like Andy is giving him a chance to throw the ball down field. the fact that it is blatantly obvious that every Vick play is going to be a run, is wasting his skills and alerting the defenses to stop the run.

It orginally seemed that Andy was holding Vick back because we were playing preseason games, or we were playing the chiefs and Bucs. But now that we are getting into some division games and tougher contests against better teams, Andy still hasn’t shown that Vick can pass more than 8 yrds.

Sure Vick was aware from the game for 2 years plus, but he didn’t lose the ability to throw more than 20 yards down field. let’s let him air it out once in awhile and really make the defenses keep guessing, then the runs will be more effective.

Either way Vick is gone next year, hopefully for more than a 4th. I’m thinking at least 2nd. Kolb is the future for this team once McNabb is gone.

by ajr142 on Nov 9, 2009 4:44 PM EST reply actions  

I think thats the problem. The times when we do see Vick back there to throw he looks indesicive. Sure he still has the arm strength, but he was never a great decision maker to begin with and it appears that he just doesn’t know where to go with the ball.

Let the beasting begin.

by TransplantedFan on Nov 10, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

The problem is

If Reid / Vick takes any kind of risk whatsoever, not only is his trade value shit, but both said people will get crucified for the decision (and obviously vice-versa – if it goes well, we’ll be like ‘BEST IDEA EVER’)

Its a losing battle no matter what – I would love to see what Vick could do, as I’ll admit the excitement when we picked him up for the potential he gave a Wildcat offense, but as it was so adequately stated in other forums, the Wildcat really is for teams that dont have options. Last night probably wouldve been a better night to use a little frivolously considering 5 didnt do much in the passing game.

sigh Welcome to Eagles football…

by RucanorX on Nov 9, 2009 5:22 PM EST reply actions  

stop with the gimmicks

when they bring Vick in they should have him doing the same this thing he did in atl. Let him drop back because Vick is way more effective running in open field instead of doing qb counters. The defense is expecting the run when Vick comes in, and if you let him throw some screens or some short routes, maybe even a deep shot if theyre crowding the line the defense will respect the possibly of a pass. I say jus let him drop back and if the first and second looks arent there then take off. This wildcat is bullshit let him be a situational QB.

Desean is Rampage Jackson on a rampage outside of the cage

by birdsflyinhigh2590 on Nov 9, 2009 5:28 PM EST reply actions  

I think...

all of you are forgetting that Vick wasn’t and still isn’t in playing shape yet.
There was no way he was going to be able to step out of prison and contribute in the first half of the year. And there’s no way he would be able to absorb Andy Reid’s west coast style timing offense in this kind of time.

On a total side note, would it be so hard for Andy Reid to take a few hours here and there and run through some game clock management situations and when or when not to throw a challenge? I swear…

by JGCarraway on Nov 9, 2009 6:27 PM EST reply actions  

True

Vick hasnt been playing football for very long now. He took a two year break and he is still getting used to everything. I do think though that the Eagles need to use him more…especially on third and short….he can convert that most of the time. He needs to pass more too…..he wont be a decoy if he just runs. The dude can throw

by cnubsbl16 on Nov 9, 2009 6:48 PM EST up reply actions  

The wildcat is stupid anyway.

And Vick has never been good. This isn’t news.

"Right now Winston Justice is the guy...until that person gets back out there"

by EvilBanner on Nov 9, 2009 6:44 PM EST reply actions  

The problem is Reid treated the wildcat the same way used to treat the running game: he tried it a few times early, it didn’t work and he abandoned it. What happened to Desean taking snaps in the backfield, the jet sweeps and all that stuff? The idea is to put the ball in your playmaker’s hands and it’s doubtful Vick will ever be one again he’s at the age where most RBs lose a step.

by JP24 on Nov 9, 2009 7:48 PM EST reply actions  

Vick the Wildcat QB

Hey Andy, why not just down the ball when you put Mike Vick in the Wildcat formation?? The Eagles Wildcat is only going to be effective if we start throwing out of that formation. Defenses are committing to the run as soon as they see Vick enter the game – make them pay. I know Vick isn’t a stellar QB, but he can throw a bomb down field -

by Haansel82 on Nov 9, 2009 8:05 PM EST reply actions  

The whole Vick thing is just embarrassing.
Why?

The road to victory!

by jayt on Nov 9, 2009 8:17 PM EST reply actions  

Vick is not ready Yet

Vick looked confused in the last pre season game which was only 7 weeks ago. No one can miss pro football for 2 yrs and come back thinking they can still play at that level. He needs to chill and learn how to be a professional from Dmac. He also needs to watch what he says to the media because it could me misconstrued, the Eagles gave him a chance when nobody will and he’ll be better off not leaving an impression that he’s not that grateful.

Besides I don’t see Vick making the same type of impact he made when he last played. I do agree that Andy needs to maybe give him garbage time to throw the ball though.

by Super52010 on Nov 9, 2009 9:14 PM EST reply actions  

The eagles obviously don't feel comfortable

With vick throwing the ball or they would have used it already. To me he’s a waste of a roster spot. Couldn’t let djack hand off or run a sweep?

by phillynyc on Nov 9, 2009 9:17 PM EST reply actions  

i dont see how mike has any trade value. what has he prooven? hes still been away 2+ years. eagles have used the vick unwisely. its so obvious that vick aint gonna throw the ball when he comes in- so how does another team thats unprooven @ qb go give up draft picks instead of drafting.

for the record. i think vick could add value to eagles if used properly. the best wilcat qb in the world is on the eagles and has attempted under 2 passes in 7 games. now thats a joke. vick should absolutely be in games against raiders and cowboys- if the offense is struggling- a big play from the wildcat gets everybody pumped and could lead to a win in such tight games.

by Bugzy on Nov 9, 2009 10:04 PM EST reply actions  

I've always thought this was

half Banner buy-low/sell high, half Reid salivating over what Vick could do. If you cared, you could go back and look at the posts I made at the time.

The intention was always to grab him this year and sell hiim to the highest bidder this offseason; you can tell by the contract they created.

Only the eventual haul will determine whether this was worth the PR hit and getting rid of Feeley as 3rd stringer.

It’s a calucalated risk that even if it pans out only to be a mid-round pick, didn’t really cost the Eagles that much, IMHO

I agree with the people who think it would behoove us to showcase him, and I too was excited about the possibilities of Vick coming into the game from time to time. But it’s clear that the Eagles struggle enough already with three-and-outs and such, and they’re trying not to get too cute with Vick.

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Nov 9, 2009 11:15 PM EST reply actions  

I agree with most of u!!

It is NOT Vicks fault. Reid or MM gives Vick the play and sends him to the huddle. Vicks job is to run the play called. If it’s a Handoff play, shuffle pass, option run or if Vick is just a Decoy, that’s what he executes. He can’t call an audible and make check downs. Reid is Killing the more offensive potential we could have. Why keep running the same plays with Vick over and over. I believe we can all agree that when we see Vick in we can easily predict run!!! Either a called run (of some sort) or a shuffle pass. I dont blame Vick for the lack of success. Vick has an arm, if u let him drop back, look for his receivers and if no ones open tell him to take off, we could be seriously dangerous on offense. Nope. Reid wants to do it HIS way. And the crazy part is he KEEPS doin this thinkn that he’s FOOLING somebody. U gotta let Vick throw to keep the D guess’n and most importantly honest!

"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."

by Realtalk32 on Nov 10, 2009 2:05 AM EST reply actions  

Nice job marketing him

Basically the Eagles call Vick in for one play, have him hand it off and then send him to the sideline. Based on this, what team out there is going ga ga for Vick? Why don’t they run an option or a sweep or a bootleg pass with him?

by BillyBates on Nov 10, 2009 6:47 AM EST reply actions  

If this is how they’re going to use him, I wish they’d have just run the wildcat with DeSean or LeSean and not taken the PR hit.

by BrianS on Nov 10, 2009 10:00 AM EST reply actions  

Michael Vick

Look dog killer you should be satisfied you were given the opportunity to play at all.
I hust hope they don’t have a DOG mascot.
Shut up and play. You’ve had enough noteriety.

by froggyfred on Nov 10, 2009 10:17 AM EST reply actions  

The problem with the buy low sell high is Vicks greatest asset is his

speed. He used to look like he was playing at a different speed than anyone else. Now he looks like everyone else. Throw on the fact he hasnt progressed as a thrower and you have nothing.

KICK ASS every day!!!

by squidlo97 on Nov 10, 2009 11:20 AM EST reply actions  

yah

I think the reason the eagles pulled the trigger was because it was a buy low/sell high low risk/high reward decision. He’s shown nothing and probably never will with the birds, but what did we lose for it? No one even really cares about the PR mess anymore…nothing really ever happened.

by eagleyosh on Nov 10, 2009 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL at vick.. what a douche.. you cant handle the offense

by Qu1nTeR on Nov 10, 2009 1:56 PM EST reply actions  

I have a question

In my opinion, I don’t see Vick staying here and doing anything productive so my question is…

When do we trade him? Can we trade him at the end of the season to another team? Would another team take that gamble considering we might not exercise his option or would they exercise his option and then try and trade him?

Showcasing his talent in our games is important to some extent but he always has the opportunity to try out with another team and showcase his talents one on one. I’m sure, either way, he’ll have some sort of interest out there looking for a QB.

In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt

by Eaglesgrl5 on Nov 10, 2009 2:40 PM EST reply actions  

First off I believe everything starts with attitude, if you say you can’t do something then you are right. I think a lot of the issue with Vick is he has no determination or motivation to succeed in the wildcat.

Maybe it’s pride or maybe it’s foolishness but he believes he should be a starter. He may be right but the fact of the matter is no one was going to hand him a starting role. The Eagles went out on a limb and they deserve his absolute best (and maybe that’s what they are getting).

I’ve noticed the lack of hustle and passion he shows when he trots out on the field and that body language speaks to the players. I think that is a factor in why the plays he runs are so anemic. The first step in making something happen is believing that it can happen.

Jim Johnson 1941-2009

"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009

by Whodie126 on Nov 11, 2009 9:16 AM EST reply actions  

As a Bills fan...

And all the talk about Vick coming to Buffalo to be our next starting quarterback… I hope for our sake we dont go after him. Pre-jail he was a very exciting player to watch, had speed and play making ability. Now its clear he has lost a step or two and where he wasnt that great of a passer before… taking 2 years off hasnt helped that at all. I believe he can still be in this league but not as a STARTING quarterback.

I see alot of you guys are complaining about the way he is being used… and I watch alot of Eagles games due to my roommate being an Eagles fan. And I would have to say I agree with you. He comes in for one or two plays a game and they are draws up the middle… nothing creative. If you’re going to use him, use 100% of him… let him rollout, let him throw, let him do what he did best before he went to jail, improvise. If not why not let your best offensive player (Jackson) take the wildcat run. He did last year didnt he?

People in western New York would respect you a lot more if you went out, busted butt and they saw it in the way you did things on and off the field. - Darryl Talley

by bflo on Nov 11, 2009 9:48 AM EST reply actions  

Jackson has run the wildcat a few times this year.

by JasonB on Nov 13, 2009 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Welcome to the SB Nation blog about Philadelphia Eagles.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recommended FanPosts

Dscn0101_small
Understanding The Wide-9 MIKE
Sbnation_avatar_small
Beating Up on Bad Teams?
Angry_birds_small
The Make-A-Mock Thread
Evilbanner_small
Futility
Angry_birds_small
NFC bEast Eternal Thread #33 - We Ride Juance More!

Recent FanPosts

Pic_1_small
My Mock Offseason (Pre-combine and FA)
Small
Growing up an Eagle in Kentucky
Robbie_hummel_small
If you find yourself in Indy this week...
Deviljj_small
The Doctor is in, and for the Eagles 2012 Super Bowl run, I prescribe:
Small
Quick Thought
Small
THIS IS THE YEAR THE EAGLES CAN HAVE A NASTY D
Small
What Keeping Juan Castillo Means For The Eagles

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >


Managers

Bgnqr_small JasonB

Editors

Img_1084_small Bob_Q

Westy2_small Route36

Pumpkin_small JimmyK

Briandawkins1_small Ben_Larivee