The Linc - Time is trouble
by JasonB on Nov 9, 2009 12:08 PM EST
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Phil Sheridan: Once again, time is trouble for Eagles | Philadelphia Inquirer | 11/09/2009
Andy Reid's reasoning wasn't terrible when he sent his field-goal team out with 4 minutes, 33 seconds showing on the clock. His math was another story.
Eagles come up short against Cowboys | Philadelphia Daily News | 11/09/2009
RED FLAGS and red faces were the story at the season's halfway point, as the Eagles stumbled last night when given the chance to take control of the NFC East.
Cowboys bury past, McNabb - NFC East - ESPN
It wouldn't be wise to make any sweeping judgments on the Dallas Cowboys until their cruelest month arrives in December, but it's fair to say they took an important step at the Linc on Sunday night. They returned to the site of one of the most regrettable performances in franchise history and seized control of first place in the NFC East with a 20-16 win over the Philadelphia Eagles.
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Eagles' Stewart Bradley, Cornelius Ingram making progress with injury rehab -- themorningcall.com
Two injured Eagles who are rarely seen during open locker room sessions reported encouraging news about their recoveries Thursday at the NovaCare Complex. Linebacker Stewart Bradley and tight end Cornelius Ingram, who each underwent surgery to repair torn anterior cruciate ligaments suffered in the preseason, are making excellent progress with their rehabilitation work.
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Reid is good at a lot of things...
But he’s the absolute worst time-management coach in the NFL… and it’s not even close.
Why is there not a time-management specialist position, as in a person that has no other job than to specialize in all time-management decisions? I’m not joking. It would probably be somewhat embarrassing to Reid should the Eagles choose to be innovative and employ such a position, but it’s time they recognize this severe deficiency and do something about it.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Nov 9, 2009 12:26 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
They could just call him something non-embarrassing like “Offensive Quality Control Coach” or “Get Reid’s Head out of His Ass Coordinator”
by BrianS on Nov 9, 2009 12:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I remember having this conversation
at least once before, Bye, Dawk :( … :)
(that’s way too many smilies)
BL: It needs to be done. … the guy doesn’t have to overrule Reid or take the decision-making out of the coaches’ hands, he just has to stand near him and quickly appraise him of the pros and cons of using timeouts and such before Reid has to make a snap decision.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Nov 10, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I HATE
Matt Mosley. He always hypes to Cowboys so much. No mention of that terrible call by the official. I hope he gets fired
by tanman5 on Nov 9, 2009 1:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
oh please.....
if anything he is like Aikman in that he usually goes out of his way to talk up the other team….
by McLovin9 on Nov 9, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Your not gonna get much love comparing him to Aikman round here… you might as well compare him to Joe Buck while your at it.
by Sparki on Nov 9, 2009 1:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Here's a statement that's no exaggeration...
When it comes to knowledge of the Eagles (although maybe not writing skills), I’ll take at least 5-10 regulars on this site over Mosley any day. Seriously. He may know the Cowboys well because he’s covered them much longer, but when your full-time job is to cover 4 football teams for the biggest sports website in the world, I expect better.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Nov 9, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He doesnt know the Cowboys. He use to cover them and and has a couple of lame brain friends still there.
How about him saying Maclin will own Jenkins ass. I told you Dawk, Jenkins is an up an comer. Him and Maclin will be a great battle for a number of years. Jenkins got this one but Mac will get his too.
Mosely is a tool and a Eagle lover along with half of the Cowboy beat writers including Gosselin.
KICK ASS every day!!!
by squidlo97 on Nov 9, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
not looking for love spanki....
but if you think Aikman hypes the cowboys….well then i think you better go back to complaining about the officiating
by McLovin9 on Nov 9, 2009 1:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That is just lame
Go back and read all of his blogs. He does nothing but rip the Cowboys when they are down and suck their nuts when they are up, just like all of these clowns on ESPN, CNNSI, CBS etc. And they all do it for every team.
For example, when the Giants were 5-0 they were saying they were the greatest. But no one recalls how they barely beat us even though we shot ourselves in the foot so many times. Now, they deserved to win, but to say they were a dominant team and not point out that game shows you how little the average clown on tv knows.
But Mosely, with his cheap shot attempts at wit is the worst. Go back and read all his blogs and tell me I am wrong.
by BillyBates on Nov 9, 2009 10:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i love how all the cowfag fans are all coming over now
can’t wait til the December implosion again this year.
you guys are just lucky our qb is looked more like your qb that game. maybe next time we’ll get good Donovan, i’ll go ask my 8 ball.
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Nov 9, 2009 2:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
that game wont matter
and you should start playing Kolb….McNabb is done.
by ManTab on Nov 9, 2009 3:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s mostly wishful thinking on your part…
by JasonB on Nov 9, 2009 3:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
cowfag? lol
good one but a bit immature. I will come here and send congrats if you win and I promise I won’t whine about the refs like what is done here. I pormise I will be here win or lose :)
by dubious on Nov 9, 2009 8:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jodi (my bad, Joe_D)
I cant wait to play you guys again. You know what is great? Kolb sucks, Reid is washed up and McNabb has two years left. DeSean is fast, but he gets taken out of many games. And your team is old. What that means is that you will not be winning a SB anytime soon. So while my Boys were in the wasteland for the last decade or so, we a) have prospects for the very near future and b) had some great times in the 70s and 90s. What do you guys have? Marky Mark movies? Chumps.
by BillyBates on Nov 9, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kolb sucks
Based on what?
Reid is washed up
You’d kill for his record.
McNabb has two years left
He’s 3 years older than Romo. Does that mean Romo only has 5 years left?
DeSean is fast, but he gets taken out of many games.
QB’s aside, he’s only the undisputed best offensive player in the division.
And your team is old. What that means is that you will not be winning a SB anytime soon.
That’s the dumbest thing I’ve read all week. Name 1 starter – just ONE – that’s over 32 years old.
(Jeopardy music playing)
Did you find any? No? OK, I’ll make it a little easier… Name 4 starters (again, there are 22 possibilities here), just FOUR, as in 1-2-3-4, that are 30 years of age or older.
(Jeopardy music playing again)
What’d you come up with?
So while my Boys were in the wasteland for the last decade or so, we a) have prospects for the very near future
By the end of the season, your OL will be the following ages…
Adams – 34
Kosier – 31
Gurode – 31
Davis – 31
Colombo – 31
Didn’t realize this, but you have more guys over 30 on your O Line than we have in our entire offensive and defensive starting lineups combined. OUCH!
What do you guys have? Marky Mark movies? Chumps.
Just took you to school, brother. We know our football here. Come back a little stronger next time.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Nov 10, 2009 10:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Undisputed?
How is DeSean the undisputed best offensive player? Austin has better stats in fewer games.
Yes, McNabb is only 3 years older than Romo, but McNabb has been beat down year after year and Romo has only started (actually played) for about 3 years, so he is relatively fresh.
As for the team is old bit, you are right and I can admit that. I was actually focussing in on McNabb and his window because I don’t see Kolb playing well for you guys in the future. But I still think our best players are younger than yours (Ware, Ratliff, Jenkins, Austin, Ogletree, Felix, Choice, Bennet, not to mention Romo)
by BillyBates on Nov 10, 2009 7:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Austin has better stats in fewer games.
Seems to me he’s played in all 8 games this year.
I was actually focussing in on McNabb and his window because I don’t see Kolb playing well for you guys in the future.
Right, and again, you should probably finish your statement on Kolb with the following phrase… “and I base that on absolutely nothing.”
But I still think our best players are younger than yours (Ware, Ratliff, Jenkins, Austin, Ogletree, Felix, Choice, Bennet, not to mention Romo)
Ogletree? OGLETREE?!?!? (As if Chris Rock is saying it)… “OGLETREE?!?!?!?!?” 3 freaking career catches and you’re including him among your best young, core players? Ogletree aside, I’ll take our young core ANY DAY of Dallas’. It’s not close.
Dude, look… The Cowboys won on Sunday, and I know you’re happy, but just get lost please. You’re out of your league.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Nov 11, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
man dawk is the know all of every team huh?
Austin has played in 8 games offically but you obviously are way over your head on how much he really played this season. Stick to Philly cause there are just some things you actually don’t know about other teams. Please tell me how many offensive plays Jackson has been involved in over his games played and the offensive plays Austin has been involved in. I know the stat is nothing as you just made it seem by your ,“well it seems to me he’s played in all 8 games this year comment”. Well does 5 to 10 offensive plays really seem to you he played the entire first 3 games as Jackson did? Check it out . I will wait …btw you’re out of your league on this one. Stick to teams you know about !!!
by dubious on Nov 11, 2009 7:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dubious
dont wast your time on Dawk anymore. He’s one of those know it alls that tries to manipulate facts to fit his argument.
by BillyBates on Nov 11, 2009 8:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
dude I think maybe you should be the one that is in over your head … Austin Miles has been targeted 46 times while DeSean Jackson has been targeted 55 times … just as a benchmark the two guys leading the league in Receiving Reggie Wayne and Andre Johnson are separated by 7 targets with Johnson being behind.
9 passes is all that separate them, that’s not a huge number as you are trying to make it seem. Fact of the matter is Miles does not have better stats in fewer games as was erroneously stated by BillyBates
Austin Miles is having a fantastic year and time will tell if this is the real deal. We already know Jackson can play he’s had more than a few good games (Miles accumulated 69% of his yards and 58% of his TDs in 2 games)
Next time instead of hiding behind the unknown …
Please tell me how many offensive plays Jackson has been involved in over his games played and the offensive plays Austin has been involved in.
Do a little research yourself …. or don’t and end up looking like a clown, it’s really your choice.
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Nov 11, 2009 9:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok idiot let me make this simple.......
Austin has started the last four games….with me so far? The first four games he played very sparingly on offense with very little touches. I dont give a fuck how many balls were thrown his way as 90% of them were in his four games he has started. You need to really learn to research before making yourself look like a total ass in front of your fan base with knowledge of something you dont have on this subject. He has not played a full 8 games, do you still understand? Jackson on the other hand has played as a starter the whole season. So Austin is doing way more with the little time he has been the main focus as to what Jackson has done the whole season, so Billy makes the best arguement . The stats also prove this point. Get that ? the stats as in a fact ? Not the shit you pulled out your ass of balls thrown his way and not telling how many in which games. So don’t step up and act as if you know anything. Bring facts to the arguement and not how many balls are thrown to him without saying how many in the first 4 games and how many in the last 4 games. Got it? You still comprehending this or do I need to spell this crap out for you big guy? Offensive plays are not based on how many balls are thrown your way moron , its based on how many plays you are on the field. Funny thing is you will still think you have a good arguement .
by dubious on Nov 11, 2009 10:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
haha I get it your getting angry because you are backed into a corner.
What does it matter how many balls were thrown to him in how many games … they were still thrown his way right? you are arguing 9 passes that is not a lot of passes regardless of how many plays each player played.
Miles Austin is the most targeted Wide Receiver on your team DeSean Jackson is ours how many plays they are on the field is of no importance if the play doesn’t go their way. Either way you are still arguing 9 passes which is ridiculous at best.
Offensive plays are not based on how many balls are thrown your way moron , its based on how many plays you are on the field.
This is quite possibly the worst argument I’ve ever heard. So DeSean is on the field for running plays but Austin isn’t so DeSean should have better stats?
Perfect Example both teams played the Bucs you contend that Miles didn’t start and I’ll agree and Jackson did start. Jackson was targeted 3 times and Miles was targeted 2 your argument is that this game doesn’t count because Miles was on the field less than DeSean? You realize how idiotic that sounds right?
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Nov 11, 2009 10:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh thanks for the ban. if you can't argue correctly you ban me? lol
Austin has better stats in fewer games.
That is what this whole arguement is based on and what I backed up in the first place. You stated how many plays a player is involved in doesn’t matter? Are you really sticking with this dumb comment?
I will explain this as if I am telling a 5 year old. Jackson has been in the game for a far greater number of offense plays than that of Austin. That means regardless of balls thrown he has had a better chance of making more of a difference for the Eagles. Austin has played the majority of 4 games and he has been a bigger factor and has done more to have balls throw in his way in alot fewer games. In that his stats are better in fewer games. You can stick with your notion of 9 balls . Thats the reason of the whole debate. Austin has been more productive in fewer games and facts support this. I am sorry your not getting this as I can tell by you having the author ban me. I guess that is the Philly way of if they present facts just ban them and let whodie throw out the last, albeit the worst comment , and make it seem he was successful. Problem is others with common sense can see what I am talking about. Its weird I can’t get you to understand. But hey ban me again so you can again attempt to make yourself look better. Either way its funny how you are so lost in this. :)
by daniel1234 on Nov 11, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously you can’t take a hint. So I’ll explain it like I’d tell it to a 5 year old.
Go. Away.
We don’t want you here.
by UnclaimedFright on Nov 12, 2009 5:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
dude I didn’t ban you I find this all amusing because you actually think you are correct.
The statement was Austin has better stats in fewer games … this is FALSE he has played in all 8 games just as DeSean has. It’s not my fault he couldn’t get balls thrown his way.
If the statement was Austin has better stats in fewer opportunities I would be more incline to go along with that. But that is not the statement that was made so I made my point.
I’m finished with you its quite clear you are one of those guys that even when proven wrong continue to fight a dying fight. Good luck with that I’ll even let you come back and have the last word if you’d like and you can call me as many names as you want because everyone is a tough guy on the internet.
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Nov 12, 2009 8:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ummmmmm I'm not banned ....hello?
daniel1234? who the hell are you? cause well UMMMM If I was banned I wouldn’t be typing would I????
Anyways, my point was Austin didn’t get on the field much in the first 4 games due to him being 3rd and 4th string. All of his oppurtunities have come in the 4 games he has started , so that does go with the statement , I as in dubious was backing.
Unclaimed I am sorry you feel that way toward me cause I disagree with peoples opinion on here. I am sorry for the fact you hate debate or someone to differ from yours. I am not the type to try and make a big scene, I thought whodie and I were having a convo, for which he came in and put his 2 cents in that at first wasn’t about him. Again I am sorry and good luck guys
by dubious on Nov 12, 2009 9:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can see his reasoning, Dawk.
Miles Austin: 2 or 3 big games against crappy secondaries after seeming like a ho-hum WR. His ONE play against the Birds was good, but he was shut out of the other 55 minutes of play.
Kevin Kolb: After a ho-hum few games as a releiver, comes out as the only QB to ever pass for 300+ yards in his first two starts.
One’s a superstar, one’s not going to play well. GOT IT. Thanks, Football geniuses.
by UnclaimedFright on Nov 12, 2009 5:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wow didnt realize that our whole line was over 30.
I guess considering that offensive lineman usually have the longest careers, I guess thats better than an old QB , running back , etc huh? Secondly, your team does have a young O-line but what are you getting out them? Aren’t most of them hurt? So I guess I will take a 30 something line that is playing every game and not bad I might say …..over a 20 something line that ..well….isn’t playing at all? Youth only helps if they can stay on the field right? Thats just my opinion :)
by dubious on Nov 11, 2009 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess considering that offensive lineman usually have the longest careers
They do? Wanna guess how many of the roughly 320 current NFL Offensive Linemen in the NFL are 35 years of age or older? Go ahead… Guess. I’ll wait.
by Bye, Dawk :( on Nov 11, 2009 3:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
dawk too funny and you base this off of what QB'S career's?
lets consider there are how many on a team as opposed to O-lineman. Tell me what position has the same number of players on a given day roster that the age compares to lineman. I ll wait. :)
by dubious on Nov 11, 2009 7:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
btw mr know it all dawk
how many players in the entire NFL are even over the age you just said of 35? Any guess will do…….here let me help you. There are 46 players over the age of 35 so basically your comment again has no bearings as there is only 2.5 % of the 1696 players past the age you just said. So how do you expect educated facts on what positions have the longer careers. In todays game, younger players rule at every position due to the salary cap restraints. That said the avg age of lineman or any player in the trenches usually is increased as opposed to other players on the field. Well excluding back up qb’s who hold clipboards which there is 6 in the NFL today over 35, or P/K which there is 14, and I don’t look at a position that never has contact their whole careers to a player like OL or DL.
by dubious on Nov 11, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There are 46 players over the age of 35
How many of them are O Linemen?
by Bye, Dawk :( on Nov 12, 2009 11:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
5 OL , and 9 DL.
I base careers off that as a whole …..obviously you base it off a certain number that only 2.5% of the league is over. We can agree to disagree? Btw there are 14 punters/kickers but I dont consider a guy who gets touched maybe 10 times his whole career as a football player :) my opinion lol
by dubious on Nov 12, 2009 10:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, not to blast a fellow cowboy fan but the eagles are younger than us.
This was a great win for us but hardly changing of the guard. Desean, Celek, Maclin, and McCoy are 22 and younger. They will get better just like our young guys( we also have a good size list of young talent) . Jan!st will be another slug fest. I look forward to it.
KICK ASS every day!!!
by squidlo97 on Nov 10, 2009 10:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would have whined about the refs in this one had we loss.
They were not very good and very inconsistent.
I always watch to see how the are going to call pass coverage. Are they going to let them play or are they going to be ticky tack. About every 3 or 4 series this goup would switch back in forth. It doesnt matter which direction it goes just be fair and consistent.
KICK ASS every day!!!
by squidlo97 on Nov 10, 2009 10:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Andy and Don
You guys have done good for the Eagles. You are Winners! But you are not CHAMPIONS! Mr. Laurie, we want a champion! Please hire either Dungy or Shanahan. Where ever Andy goes take Don with him. We will send them off with a “Winners” commendation!
by Trade Kolb on Nov 9, 2009 2:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Andy is a great coach
5 championship games in 8 years. I’m not willing to part with that. Not to mention all the talent that we keep restocking ourselves with — just incredible. He can ship of Donovan though — I’ve seen enough of him
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Nov 9, 2009 3:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My feeling is that you can work around an inconsistent quarterback when you have a load of offensive talent otherwise.
You can’t work around a consistently underachieving coach. I’ve give Reid until the end of the season to get his head out of his ass.
by joetimek on Nov 9, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You’d also be losing one of the best GMs in football.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John (obviousman) on Nov 9, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How do you workout an inconsistent QB?
We kinda need him to throw some balls to our WRs to score some points…Esp in a WC offense.
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Nov 9, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
work around?
cobbd
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Nov 9, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Remember- Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl as a starting quarterback. And Kyle Orton, who stares down his receivers like a high school QB, is on a 6-1 team.
If McNabb can make the occasional big play, we’re fine. And we have big play guys to do that. Andy, who calls the plays, needs to adjust to put him in that decision. He is going to complete SOME passes.
I agree with the whole losing a great GM part, John. That’s what he excels at. I don’t think we could ever ask him to strictly be a GM, because some other team would scoop him up as a coach. Bit of a catch-22 if we dropped him as coach.
by joetimek on Nov 9, 2009 4:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We do have a load of offensive talent, but what good is that if we can’t get them the ball when McNabb is being inconsistent
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
by Eaglesgrl5 on Nov 10, 2009 2:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dungy maybe....
I wouldnt take Shanahan over Reid ever!!!!!….Shanahan won because of Elway. he sucks!
by ManTab on Nov 9, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Shanahan has a good record without Elway, what really killed him is his tendency to scapegoat the DC in his last few years. Mike Nolan is making McDaniels look good.
by JP24 on Nov 9, 2009 4:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
WHEN
we play good in the first 5 mins, we usually win. when we play bad, it’s usually another oakland gm like last night. the team is too emotional. why is that?
by Bleediots on Nov 9, 2009 4:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
sometimes there is another team playing against the Eagles and
they make things harder for your team to succeed. Its possible huh ? :)
by dubious on Nov 9, 2009 8:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bleediots
I’m with you 100%. No disrespect to the Cowboys or anyone who has beaten us the past three seasons, but you can count the times the Eagles get flat-out outplayed on one hand. They usually lose close games in which they fail to look sharp from the very start.
Yet we sit there after getting that foreboding feeling in the first quarter because we’re die-hard fans hoping this one will turn out differently.
Bottom line with the Eagles: I think they have been and still are capable of beating anyone in the NFL. And as they showed us against Oakland, they’re capable of losing to anyone.
There are a lot of teams in the NFL whose talent level I respect, Saints and Cowboys included. But nobody scares me on game day like the Eagles.
It’s cliche, but I’ve watched consistently enough that I actually believe the Eagles are the team most capable of beating the Eagles on any given Sunday.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Nov 10, 2009 12:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thats why they call it Any Given Sunday… and thats likely for any team, especially ours.
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
by Eaglesgrl5 on Nov 10, 2009 2:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yea we can say that too about losing close games
2 losses this year by 9 points. One game we get the lead late and lose on last second field goal and the second we cant complete the comeback and 3 tries in the endzone to tie the score. Our team scores nothing at the start of the game look at the stats. We score the most points in the 3rd quarter and your team usually scores in the first half. Thats why its called a 60 minute game. I just think everybody could do the what ifs. The Eagles are good and will be ok .
by dubious on Nov 11, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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