Eagles fall to Cowboys 20-16
by JasonB on Nov 9, 2009 12:08 AM EST
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The Eagles' performance tonight did little to silence the critics who call the Eagles offense an "all or nothing" unit. Last week, they hit their big plays against the Giants and won in blowout fashion. Tonight, the big plays weren't there and they lose a slow, grinding game to the Cowboys by 4. The defense wasn't great by any means(particularly the tackling), but the story of this game is once again the inconsistency of the Eagles defense. There were dropped passes, poor throws from McNabb, inconsistency up front, inability to convert short yardage... It was many of the same problems we saw in the loss to Oakland. I'm not exactly sure what to do with this offense other than just pray the good Eagles show up on a given week.
That said, we've seen this script before. The Eagles drop the early game to Dallas and then beat them in December when the pressure is on. How many Decembers in a row have we seen this? Hopefully the Cowboys enjoy their midseason win while they can. Round one to you guys, the decisive round comes in week 17.
The Eagles don't have any time to dwell on this one. A very tough game is looming against San Diego. That's a cross country trip against a decent out of conference opponent. Those aren't games the visitors win very often. Unless it's against the Giants I guess...
I've got a few more thoughts after the jump
Peters shows his worth
Gotta give credit to Jason Peters who absolutely owned DeMarcus Ware tonight. Ware made a few plays when Peters was off the field, but when he came back Ware disappeared. It got so bad that Dallas actually started lining up Ware on the other side to get him away from Peters. Solid job tonight by the $60 million man. I also have to give him credit for coming back after what looked like a very nasty play. A defender rolled up on his leg from behind, which we've seen led to torn ACLs all too often. Peters missed a few series, came back, and dominated.
What is the point of replay?
No one should take this as me blaming the refs. No doubt the Eagles had plenty of opportunities to win this game and have only themselves to blame. But how on earth did the refs see nothing on that McNabb sneak play? The camera angle was clear as day, the ball was clearly ahead of where they marked it... and yet the ruling on the field stands? What didn't they see? I'd love to hear an explanation of exactly why they felt that ball was spotted correctly.
David Akers came to play
If you were going to point out a positive tonight, one easy one would be David Akers who surprised just about everyone in the game thread by kicking FGs of 45, 48, and 52. Akers has been very hit or miss from beyond 40 for a while now, but for tonight at least he was back to his old self.
Can the Eagles ever get a big play at the end of a game?
Maybe it's late and I'm just not remembering correctly, but does it seem like the Eagles never make a big play at the end of a game? It just seems like every time the offense needs to make a drive or the defense needs to get a stop, they just fall short. The defense needed to stop the Cowboys once at the end of this game to give the offense a shot and couldn't do it. Now, I do give the defense some leeway considering they played decent overall and were without all 3 of the LBs they were supposed to start the year with. After Akeem Jordan was injured on the previous kickoff the only starter in the LB corps was Will Witherspoon, who only joined the team a couple weeks ago. It left them pretty exposed to the run and short pass, which is exactly what Dallas did to get the couple first downs they needed.
Every Eagles win this year has come pretty much in blowout fashion. This was the first really close game they've played all year. Last year, they won exactly one game where the final score was within at least a TD. That was the 20-14 win over the Giants which was only within one score was because the Giants scored a TD with under 2 minutes left. The Eagles lost 6 of their 7 games that were within one score last year. This year, they're 0-2 in games decided by one score. In 2007, they were 4-7 in close games. There definitely seems to be an issue there.
Some timeouts at the end would have been nice
As the previous paragraph said, it probably wouldn't have mattered that much if the Eagles could have stopped the clock at the end of the game... but still, their margin for error was very small with no timeouts. I suppose whether you're upset about this depends on how you felt about the challenges. Reid lost both and used another timeout somewhere than I don't even remember. I thought the first challenge was pointless, but I would have thrown the flag on the second one myself.
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maybe you guys will think u;m bitching, or whining, or making up excuses...
but that 4th down conversion (or lack of) was huge, was the refs fault and made A huge difference, maybe not THE difference, but it certainly was a critical call that made a difference
Weapon X eats babies for breakfast.
by immynimmy on Nov 9, 2009 12:13 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
It was THE difference
We were driving, McNabb was getting into a rhythm, then the refs screwed us so that “America’s team” could win. Completely changed momentum.
by tanman5 on Nov 9, 2009 2:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So sick of the same old shit over and over again. If you’re going to lose, at least make it interesting. Despite the poor call on 4th down, we deserved to lose that.
And for the love of God, stop using Vick in the Wildcat. There really is no point anymore. He’s an overpaid backup.
by joetimek on Nov 9, 2009 12:15 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
If they get the correct spot on foruth down and convert and go on to score and win they 'deserve to win'
These ‘deserved to lose’ arguments have never made sense to me.
by fleeb on Nov 9, 2009 12:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In some wins I’ve said they deserved to lose, however I usually add “but I’ll take it.” The way they were playing left me with no confidence that they could get it done, or call the right play for that matter. It sounds cliche, but that’s my meaning.
by joetimek on Nov 9, 2009 12:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That 4th down was definitely converted.
Huge blown call by the refs that probably cost us the game. This place is gonna be filled with trolls this week. Jason, please do your best to remove them.
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by Route36 on Nov 9, 2009 12:16 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
nah, let em come.
if we act like the more mature ones and ignore them they’ll eventually leave and feel stupid. Kind of like how you deal with small children
Weapon X eats babies for breakfast.
by immynimmy on Nov 9, 2009 12:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
When it comes to Dallas
the reply is simple: “We’ll see you again.”
They know they’re gonna have to see us again with something more important on the line. As backwards as it seems, you might even take their trolling as a sign of respect … they know beating the Eagles matters, and they gotta get their licks in now because they might not be able to when it counts.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Nov 9, 2009 12:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
perhaps your right
…but i do not believe the thought process of a cowboys fan expands that far
Weapon X eats babies for breakfast.
by immynimmy on Nov 9, 2009 12:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well I back your original theory then
if we act like the more mature ones and ignore them they’ll eventually leave and feel stupid. Kind of like how you deal with small children
I’ll man up, take my medicine if they’re cordial about it, and they wanna look at it from a true football perspective.
If they’re just showing up looking for a reaction, I’m likely not reading to their end of their post, and I’m certainly not humoring them by being part of a back and forth. I can think of a million things I’d rather do with my time.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Nov 9, 2009 12:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
my only other option is to study for a test tomorrow
jeez i can’t believe I wasted my time watching that piss poor effort.
by eagleyosh on Nov 9, 2009 12:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see any reason not to be cordial about it
This wasn’t a 44-6 blowout by any means. Tough, hard fought game that could have gone either way. We also know how the script goes: Win the early game, lose the late game. Hopefully, the Cowboys can change all that. You could tell both teams were really good tonight and the next game will probably be for something on the line. Good game guys.
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
by kameleon_o on Nov 9, 2009 12:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cowboys fan here..... first time poster..
I too thought the 4th down was converted, until I heard a couple of points on the broadcast:
1) The replay rules have apparently been adjusted this year. It now takes absolute proof that the call was wrong, moreso than before. Since it isn’t completely clear from the replay that McNabb’s left knee and/or left elbow weren’t down earlier, no reversal. I know, it took me a while to buy that, but after 3-4 replays I can see the decision standing as called.
2) The two penalties on the returns were HUGE, and both were stupid plays but correct calls. Real momentum killers, which brings me to my last point.
3) Going into the game, all the analysis down here (or at least the decent analysis) was that the Philly offense was a big play one, and that forcing them into a grind-it-out style was the way to go. Without a doubt, the lack of a big play by your offense, coupled with the lack of big plays of those two returns, was the difference in the game. You really missed Westbrook, who excels in keeping those drives going by busting one loose FAR too often for my eyes.
All that aside, it was a helluva game to watch, and I only hope it doesn’t fit the pattern of recent years – beat you early, lose later when we need it. No doubt the next game will be for all the marbles, as that Giants team is in deep trouble right now.
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by bking on Nov 9, 2009 11:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
You, sir, are welcome back to talk football any time.
This was a close game that I enjoyed. What’s really ruining it for me are the classless Dallas fans who’ve come here to crow.
It’s good to see Boys fans that want to come and talk ball, rather than try to make up for feeling “small” by ragging on the Birds or the City.
by UnclaimedFright on Nov 11, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Eagles’ performance tonight did little to silence the critics who call the Eagles offense an “all or nothing” unit.
I think that’s a fair criticism. They haven’t sustained many drives this season, and I think sometimes their big-play ability obscures that.
They have great depth on offense, many options and maybe even an identity, but when they really need to dig in and go the length of the field against a good team, they don’t seem to be able to complete short pass after short pass after short pass.
If you look though, the Eagles look like they have potential to be a really good offense later in the year. The run game works when they lean on it. The Wildcat’s kinda taken a backseat, and nobody really seems to be missing it. Westbrook didn’t play, but if he gets healthy …
It’s not like they just are what they are and there’s no reason to think differently.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Nov 9, 2009 12:21 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
im so sick and tired of seeing that stupid fucking smile on miles austins fucking face
In 20 We Trust
by Lyons81 on Nov 9, 2009 12:22 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Miles Austin
Where was his penalty in the endzone for doing a dance and then throwing the ball at the back endzone wall. They certainly did not have a problem throwing a flag on the Celek td for taunting!!!!!!
by wallyeagles on Nov 9, 2009 2:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What is the point of replay?
Well stated.
I mused earlier tonight that baseball might actually have it right: at least with no replay, you can blame mistakes on “the human element.” When you have an intricate replay system and still manage to get calls wrong, it’s hurting the game.
And while you’re right that the refs didn’t lose this game for the Eagles, each of the rejected challenges was crucial. The McNabb sneak goes without saying, but on the McCoy play, Collinsworth was right that the Eagles should have actually lost yardage — a bad result, to be sure, but one that should have at least convinced the refs that the ball was spotted incorrectly on the field, and that the Eagles should keep their timeout. Those two timeouts could have proved helpful at the end of the game, huh?
by PhillyFriar on Nov 9, 2009 12:25 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hey guys
I know you’re upset. Just want to say good game. As long as McNabb is your quarterback, the Eagles will continue to scare the hell out of me when my ’Boys play them.
2009 Dallas Cowboys: 10-6
2009 New York Jets: 11-5?
2009-2010 Dallas Mavericks: 57-25
by Grady90 on Nov 9, 2009 12:25 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough
You deserve a response. I think the fun part of the Dallas-New York-Philly trio this year is that we all know we’ll have to play each other again later with a lot more on the line.
I don’t think the Cowboys are as talented as they were last season, but when they play within themselves, they really have the potential to mix the run and pass well … without having so-called “dangerous” or “explosive” superstars … they don’t really have a lot of weak spots either.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Nov 9, 2009 12:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think we're as talented either but hopefully we shoot ourselves in the foot less.
That’s been the real achilles heel of the Cowboys. Undisciplined and stupid. Our draft was pretty crappy too but a couple of them have helped out this year. Hopefully, we’ll work on all the mistakes we made tonight and get better.
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
by kameleon_o on Nov 9, 2009 12:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Grady90
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by fleeb on Nov 9, 2009 12:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well since he's playing McNabb 3 times this year he probably has reason to be wary
He’s bound to come out hot one of them.
by fleeb on Nov 9, 2009 12:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ahhh
I thought you were calling him a front runner or something. My bad…good point.
by eagleyosh on Nov 9, 2009 12:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh Cowboys and Saints
I understand now. Yeah I thought you might have been pointing out I was a fraudulent ’Boys fan or something since I support other teams as well, haha!
2009 Dallas Cowboys: 10-6
2009 New York Jets: 11-5?
2009-2010 Dallas Mavericks: 57-25
by Grady90 on Nov 9, 2009 12:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
nice response
very classy…we’ll be seeing you again later this year!
by eagleyosh on Nov 9, 2009 12:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cowboys fan here.
That was a good game. Both teams had a TON of mistakes. but, hey, that’s the NFC east for ya.
i know most of you are hot-headed right now, and i guess it’s understandable. but, i really don’t understand why you can’t just tip your hats and say the ‘Boys were better today.
but, no. it’s the same tired “Dallas will choke late in the season.” that’s really a shame.
if the ’Boys lost, then the post-game analysis on BTB would have described how the Eagles were able to out-tough the ’Boys, and win.
when i read, “how did the refs miss that 4th down sneak call?” i think, "easy. the same way they missed Asante’s p.i. on Williams in the end zone.
the refs probably missed that call. probably. but there was no way the replay should evidence to overturn the call.
by falconPUNCH on Nov 9, 2009 12:28 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
You gotta understand
most of us have a very Eagle-centric view of things. So we’re more concerned with how calls affected us or how poorly we played.
I don’t hang out at BTB, but I find it really hard to believe that everybody over there would just be tipping their hat and saying how good the Eagles are. I find it’s pretty common to have a your-own-team-centric view of things, and rare are the fans who can step outside of that and appreciate the other team.
There are some of them on BGN, they will make themselves known over the next few days for sure. But also don’t blame us for venting … if we can’t do it here, where can we do it?
Let me be the first to say you guys got this one, and I’m looking forward to doing it once more later in the season.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Nov 9, 2009 12:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fair points
It was a tough game, just like I expected. And for what it’s worth I don’t know any Cowboys fans who weren’t worried about this game. These are two very good teams.
What impressed me was the Eagles’ defense. Of course some plays were given up, but that happens. They played really tough and that has to make you guys optimistic. McNabb has a slightly better day and it’s another game. Just like Dallas losing to the Giants – Romo has an even average game and it’s another G-man loss.
Great game, another instant classic.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Nov 9, 2009 8:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"another instant classic"
You’re kidding right?
I don’t care who won that game, it was not a well played game and not particularly entertaining. It was slow, plodding, mistake filled, penalty filled. It was probably pretty awful to watch for neutral observers.
by JasonB on Nov 9, 2009 11:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not at all
it was a defensive classic and it came down to the wire. So no, not an offensive fireworks game, but a real slug fest. Maybe it’s all my years watching the NFC East, because it was certainly played in the division’s tradition.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Nov 9, 2009 2:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
dude
why do you come here and expect to read about how the cowboys were good? You know as well as we do that both teams played less than stellar. And you know the refs sucked all around. If you want to read about how great the cowboys are, go back to BTB. The eagles played like shit. The cowboys played slightly better. The refs tried to screw both teams out of victory. Neither team really deserves that much praise tonight. Congrats on the win, but I don’t really know what you expect to find here….
by eagleyosh on Nov 9, 2009 12:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1 eagleyosh
Weapon X eats babies for breakfast.
by immynimmy on Nov 9, 2009 12:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I dont think the cowboys played bad.....eagles are a great team and it was tough road win
specially after that a$$ wiping you gave us last year. Give us a little credit…..defense made plays….didn’t let you make big plays. Offense made one great play and protected the ball…….cmon. Give us some credit.
by ManTab on Nov 9, 2009 12:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
look
we’re both supposed to be super bowl contenders/playoff teams, right? In my eyes, with how sloppy that game was played, neither of us looked like play off teams. I did give you credit…you played slightly better and I guess that’s all you needed to do. But I really don’t think either team played how they’re expected to…certainly not wwell enough to hang with the top teams in this league.
by eagleyosh on Nov 9, 2009 12:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
dunno....
after all that crap ive seen from the cowboys the last decade, I’ll call them a playoff team when we get the 10th or 11th win. A game at a time and this was huge……..we’re 1.5 games ahead in the division after we lost a huge one to giants at home….it wouldve been very tough being 0-2 in the division and 1.5 games behind…….this was big.
good luck the rest of the way except for last week.
by ManTab on Nov 9, 2009 12:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it was a big win
I’m really not trying to discount them. I just am trying to explain why I say they didn’t play well. And as an eagles fan…I hope your team collapses and we clinch the division by the next time we meet :)
by eagleyosh on Nov 9, 2009 12:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what i thought i would find was "dallas won." not, "the refs beat us"
that’s all i’m trying to say. credit.
you said i came here expecting to read praises, not me.
by falconPUNCH on Nov 9, 2009 12:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No one should take this as me blaming the refs. No doubt the Eagles had plenty of opportunities to win this game and have only themselves to blame.
he warned you not to take it that way! ;) the refs had stupid calls for both teams…i say we both played less than stellar, and I stick by it. Those were not two playoff caliber looking teams with all those mistakes. The eagles didn’t even look average tonight.
by eagleyosh on Nov 9, 2009 12:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
The cowboys only looked slightly better, which is just good enough to win..I’d take it if it were the other way around…and why is no one questioning that FG call..wth reid?
by TheDtrain on Nov 9, 2009 12:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
questioning reid is futile
the man never runs then decides to run on third and four. his thought process is mind boggling.
by eagleyosh on Nov 9, 2009 12:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
haha I hate that you're right
I wish i could be in his mind sometimes..
by TheDtrain on Nov 9, 2009 12:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that's a different take.
i think it comes with the territory. as in, the 44-6 was an abbiration for an NFC east game. don’t get me wrong, the Eagles destroyed the boys. but that’s not the norm. the norm is a high-scoring shoot out, with both teams looking offensively sharp. or, the the norm is like this game.
by falconPUNCH on Nov 9, 2009 12:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Some people blame the refs whereever you go
that’s not specific to this website in this moment.
If you really read though, a bunch of rational posters are saying that the refs didn’t lose the game, but there were calls that were very big. People are also complaining about McNabb’s passing, Reid’s challenges, etc.
This is pretty standard stuff anywhere you go, I’m not sure why you’re stunned.
The Cowboys have a nice team. You got this one. Looking forward to the next one.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Nov 9, 2009 12:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed..
This is NFC East football… + some really bad calls both ways.
I’ll even concede that the 4th and 1 call could have gone either way..but converting that does not automatically put points on the board..it just gave another opportunity.
Just like the PI call on Samuels would have given the cowboys a better opportunity.
The Eagles still have a lot going for them. That pass rush is clearly the best I’ve seen all year. The Linebackers played much better than I had expected and for a great part of the night the Cowboys’ running game was non-existent.
Maclin and Jackson look to be the real deal but they just weren’t able to get behind an improving Dallas Secondary.
Seemed to be two evenly matched teams that knew each other very very well that were in the midst of a slug fest. If they both keep up this play it is very conceivable that Philly could steal the game in Dallas week 17.
Forgive us Cowboys’ fans for trying to reiterate the fact that this is not the 44-6 team and that as much as all other NFC fans would like to think..Dallas at the very least.. doesn’t suck
by SDTrueblue on Nov 9, 2009 12:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
He doesn’t have to go to BTB. He can go to ESPN, CNNSI, or Fox Sports.
Thanks to our boys choking and the refs, we will be treated to at least a week’s worth of hype about the resurgence of the Cowboys, the rebirth of Roy Williams, how Tony Romo is an MVP candidate, that Jerry Jones is being nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize…
it’s going to be nauseating
by tanman5 on Nov 9, 2009 2:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you want to read hype about the Cowboys
You can go to any major sports site that will not be blowing up “America’s team”
Here, we focus on the Eagles.
by tanman5 on Nov 9, 2009 2:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Missed CAlls
Yes you are correct missed call for PI, but question does the PI penalty equal a touchdown? no Did it cause the Cowboys to lose the ball? no Did the Cowboys still get 3 points? yes
That PI was a blown call for sure, but lets be realistic. Over an over and over the Eagle got screwed on calls
-4th down conversion
-Asante taunting penalty as he pulled his friend up off the ground
-taunting penalty on Celek’s td with a no call on Mile Austin’s TD for te exact same thing
-Bullshit holding call on the Hobbs return for a TD
Dont get me wrong the Eagles played bad, real bad but the Cowboys got a lot of help. All but one field goal came after blown calls or the interception gift from Maclin.
Finally, what was teh deal with the Eagles receivers early? They looked like the Dolphins out there, couldn’t catch a cold. The Eagles are obviously the more talented team, but talent isn’t all it take ssometimes.
by wallyeagles on Nov 9, 2009 3:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m chalking this one up to that new star avatar. ;-)
Looking Mean in Kelly Green
by goodfella46er on Nov 9, 2009 12:30 AM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
GET OFF YOUR KNEES, REF, YOU'RE BLOWING THE GAME!!
by oclafcire on Nov 9, 2009 12:39 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
GET OFF YOUR KNEES ROMO
You’re blowing the refs!
by tanman5 on Nov 9, 2009 2:29 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Even better
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by bdawk4ever on Nov 9, 2009 2:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Refs
The Eagles were the obvious better team, even though they could’ve played better. But I’m placing this loss squarely in the refs hands. They blew three calls that changed this game:
1. The “holding” on the kickoff return for a TD.
2. The “low block” on the interception return.
3. The spot on the 4th down challenge.
Any one of those go the Eagles way and we win.
by bdawk4ever on Nov 9, 2009 12:41 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
No they weren't
The Eagles were the obvious better team
If this is what that Dallas fan above is talking about, I agree with him. This was not one of the Eagles’ best efforts.
They might have more talent than Dallas, and I wouldn’t be surprised if they went farther in the end. But they did NOT dominate that game only to have the refs pull the rug out from under them. Be real.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Nov 9, 2009 12:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The better team?
lol — no. Sorry, dude. The Boys were better.
by dfan77 on Nov 9, 2009 12:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No
Again, no they were. They got three big calls. We didn’t. The Eagles played well enough to win. Not great, be enough.
by bdawk4ever on Nov 9, 2009 12:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Anything good the boys did
Was because the Eagles messed up. Their first touchdown? Maclin tips a pass right to their cornerback. Their other touchdown? Sheldon Brown gets a brain transplant from Deangelo Hall and leaves Miles Austin wide open.
The only good play they made was the Jenkins pick
by tanman5 on Nov 9, 2009 2:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
we get the PI call on samuel and its a different game as well.....
The spot on the 4th don was horrendous and you guys shouldve gotten that one……the other two looked like legit penalties to me
by ManTab on Nov 9, 2009 12:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
reid's call for the FG?
Anyone accepting responsibility for that? Was Reid a ref, too? ;)
by dfan77 on Nov 9, 2009 12:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe the eagles are better…but they didn’t play that way tonight
by eagleyosh on Nov 9, 2009 12:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
PI on Witten?
Was that not a ticky tack call as well?
by SDTrueblue on Nov 9, 2009 12:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i texted those exact words to my dad, actually
by eagleyosh on Nov 9, 2009 12:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Txting fathers give an opportunity for rare gems
i got back from mine today this nugget “the refs suck cow balls..get it?”
by TheDtrain on Nov 9, 2009 12:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
only 1 of those is questionable
the holding on the ko return was blatant, no question about it
the low block was also blatant, on change of posession you can’t go low, no question about it
the spot on the 4 th down is a tough one…. i’d like to see it again
by CowboysFan4Life on Nov 9, 2009 11:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cowboys fan here
You guys have a solid team, of course. It was a great game. Two things, though, ok?
Stop moaning about the officiating. We got screwed too — most notably on the fake PI call that should’ve actually been a Dallas TD.
I wish you guys could just accept the fact that you lost. You don’t even have to give props to the Boys — just stop sounding like little girls complaining about “unfairness.”
Second, don’t ask us fans to “get over the win” — your fans have been gloating for months about 44-6. You will continue the gloating in late December.
So just stop, man up, and act like real men and women instead of crying little girls.
by dfan77 on Nov 9, 2009 12:43 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
if you read
you’ll realize that’s what the majority of us are doing. congrats….you won. see you later this year
by eagleyosh on Nov 9, 2009 12:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wish you guys would stop coming here telling us what to accept
I wish you guys could just accept the fact that you lost.
Everybody deals with losses differently. Please stop trying to act like it’s a freakin’ monastery over at BTB or wherever you hang after Cowboys losses.
You’re right, we gloated over 44-6. You’re free to gloat over this one til we do it again.
But please stop trying to dictate how different people react. We’re not all the same. Some Eagles fans say “great, you got this one,” some are more concerned with the refs, but if you’re coming here expecting us to be one homogenous bunch of we-played-well-but-got-beat-by-a-better-team-today fans, you a) didn’t watch very closely, cause we didn’t play well, and b) maybe have never met an Eagles fan before.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Nov 9, 2009 12:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There's also a difference
between beating a team 44-6 in an elimination game to end the regular season and getting lucky and generous officiating to squeak by a team 20-16 in the middle of the season
by tanman5 on Nov 9, 2009 2:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, we'll take what we can get...
It’s gonna take more than one win to get the taste of 44-6 out of our mouths……
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by bking on Nov 9, 2009 11:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Show the "Boys some love!!!!!
I love Philly fans…ya’ll are so bitter!!! I will have to agree that both teams played less than great and it pretty much came down to who screwed up less… and that happened to be us today. So don’t get so pissed off, I mean, ya’ll are supposed to be the City of Brotherly Love?
by MirandaTX21 on Nov 9, 2009 12:45 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
lol..thats just a front.
We’d eat family if we had to
by TheDtrain on Nov 9, 2009 12:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If we agree on this
I will have to agree that both teams played less than great
Then why should we be showing you love for it?
Enjoy this one. Cause you know we’re gonna enjoy the next one. And the whole offseason afterward …
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Nov 9, 2009 12:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
Cause you know we’re gonna enjoy the next one
Only if you win. I’ve learned with the Cowboys not to get too cocky about it no matter how good I think we are. Don’t count the wins until they’re won.
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by kameleon_o on Nov 9, 2009 12:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I actually posted that pre-game
everybody, and I mean EVERYbody liked the Eagles in this one. I did too. And I’ve been around long enough to know there’s something wrong with that.
But from our perspective, there are certain games the Eagles play, against the Cowboys and everyone else, where they fall into certain frustrating habits … and that’s what fans are so ticked about, as far as I could tell on the during-the-game thread.
This is completely unlike the 41-37 game early last season where both teams took each other’s best shot and only one could be left standing. This was, from our point of view, a lot closer to a shitshow. Not quite Oakland, but not our best effort either.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Nov 9, 2009 12:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It just wasn't a score fest.
But it wasn’t like either of our offenses were totally inept. It just seem like our respective defenses did enough to keep the other team off balance for the most part. I really think that if the Eagles or the Cowboys had played the way they did tonight against a non-NFL East team then we’d probably both have hung 30 points on someone. Just my thought.
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by kameleon_o on Nov 9, 2009 12:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Your team sucks
Our team just sucked more tonight
by tanman5 on Nov 9, 2009 1:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ya'll were offsides
On the defense. No, um, wait, the offense. Let me point my hand in the wrong direction. wait, I’m drunk.
by dfan77 on Nov 9, 2009 12:48 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Septa strike is over!!! Thank God.
This was going to be an even shittier week if I had to spend another $125 on cabs.
World Series- check
NBA Title- check
Stanley Cup- check
Superbowl- In progress...
by Route36 on Nov 9, 2009 12:48 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
WTF kinda name is that for a transit system???
Sounds WAYYY too close to “septic” to me…
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by bking on Nov 9, 2009 11:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
South Eastern Pennsylvania Transportation Agency
septic isn’t far off to describe their service.
by zerofischer on Nov 9, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dallas fan here
Man this is the type of game I had expected; a hard nosed NFC east fight that came down to the final minutes. It was a real nail biter for me; my heart was racing the entire 4th quarter. I knew this would be a tough game and just wanted to tell you guys that the reamatch is going to be an epic battle.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
by cowboy78 on Nov 9, 2009 12:55 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
With you on that.
At least I hope the rematch is better than this one. It came down to the 4th, but I don’t think it was nearly as well-played or exciting a football game as our first one last year, for example. The 41-37 game
That was more of a game where I came away going “wow, we’re good and the Cowboys are GOOD.”
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Nov 9, 2009 12:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Damn straight!!!
It’s good to see a friendly post!!! As you can see, Dallas fans are in the minority!
by MirandaTX21 on Nov 9, 2009 12:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't so friendly to you above
but if you come into Eagle territory looking for trouble … duh, you’re gonna find it. Same as when we go into Cowboy territory running our mouths.
I pretty much think you get back from BGN posters what you give out, Cowboys fans or not.
I like to keep it friendly myself; I used to argue on message boards years ago and it consumed me but never got me anywhere. I learned to let it go.
So for this one, I’ll depart with a tip of the hat to the Boys for this one. Looking forward to the rematch already. Same thing with the Giants game, I know us crushing them last week wasn’t truly representative of what they can do.
Looks like it’ll come down to all three of us in the end. See you there.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
by D3Keith on Nov 9, 2009 1:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fired up for it!
BTW, not all Cowboys fans are from Texas.
We’re actually from ALL OVER.
I know of about 53 Dallas fans who even went to the Linc tonight.
by dfan77 on Nov 9, 2009 1:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"BTW, not all Cowboys fans are from Texas"
Not all? Most probably aren’t.
HOnestly, I have never met one from Texas or anywhere close.
by JasonB on Nov 9, 2009 1:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
To all the whining Cowboy fans
Go somewhere else if you want "some love" and "credit." This is not a Cowboys site, it’s not a general sports site. It’s an Eagles site. We talk about the Eagles. WHen I talk about a game I talk about what the Eagles did in that game. If you’re looking for validation, I’d say you’ve come to the wrong place.
by JasonB on Nov 9, 2009 1:09 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thank You
I’m not given any credit to the Cowboys.
The Eagles should have won this game. Whether it was the refs or the Eagles themselves, the Cowboys didn’t win it.
by bdawk4ever on Nov 9, 2009 1:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My point is that whether or not to give them “credit” is irrelevant. We talk about the eagles. If you’re a cowboy fan looking to hear how wonderful your team is then go to a site about the cowboys. We’ve got one here on this network that’s well maintained, smart, and most importantly is about the cowboys. Go there if you want to read about them.
by JasonB on Nov 9, 2009 1:57 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Touche
Yes you are right. Whatever the Cowboys did doesn’t matter here. Its how the Eagles failed. They certainly could have done more to win. And they didn’t.
by bdawk4ever on Nov 9, 2009 2:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Been reading for months... need to make my first comment.
Long time Eagle fan here in Toronto… And I am dying… Best friend is a Cowboy fan so I will be Babysitting his kids over next weekend so he can take his wife out… Much worse than that is everything that I was afraid would happen, happened.
Why can’t we run with Weaver on 2nd and one?
Why can’t we get it to Celek in short yardage?
Could someone please hide the damn challenge flag from Andy?
After watching Tashard Choice slice us up in the Wildcat… why have Vick here if at least he does not run the sneak?
It all seems so simple, 3 passes on the first drive? 9 Passes to Maclin?
There is Superbowl talent on this team… however the consistency is not there… So what are the solutions?
Can Runyan be brought in just to rotate in, or is he done? That period where Peters was injured, the team went to max protect…. and when they didn’t Ware was able to stop a sure Maclin touchdown.
Can we please run some wildcat in short yardage?
To me the blueprint for success for the Eagles is the 2nd Quarter… let’s bottle it and pull it out again and again.
I ask you Bleeding Green Nation… what are the solutions? I think we all know what’s wrong.
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by Humble Dragons on Nov 9, 2009 1:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The solutions
1. When we play the Cowboys, make sure Tony Romo does not come out of the refs’ locker room before the game wiping his mouth. I’m sure a scene like that occurred tonight.
2. CATCH THE BALL! More drops. Maclin looked like a rookie.
3. Don’t dance. Give the ball to Weaver in short-yardage situations.
4. Press cover.
by tanman5 on Nov 9, 2009 2:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
1. HAHAHA. Seriously, listen to this man.
2. The drops really killed the Birds tonight. MAKE THE CATCH!
3. Yes, Shady’s dancing didn’t help, Weaver is much better in that situation.
4. True as well.
Glad I’m not the only person still up and stewing.
by bdawk4ever on Nov 9, 2009 2:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can't sleep
I got two exams tomorrow and I’m wondering if my professor will let me skip them due to emotional distress.
So yeah you’re not the only person still up and stewing
by tanman5 on Nov 9, 2009 2:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank You
I’m not given any credit to the Cowboys.
The Eagles should have won this game. Whether it was the refs or the Eagles themselves, the Cowboys didn’t win it.
by bdawk4ever on Nov 9, 2009 1:19 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
the Cowboys didn’t win it.
I beg to differ
by SDTrueblue on Nov 9, 2009 1:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Beg all all you want, but they were given it.
by bdawk4ever on Nov 9, 2009 1:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Let's be real
The Eagles did give this one away… but the Cowboys did alot to contribute to that… no sense putting our heads in the sand.
However the following is true…
Maclin has to make that catch… the tip drill for the interception hurt.
McNabb was inacurate for most of the night
The play calling was horrible… and so was the challenge management
So many stupid penalties
However the Cowgirls did make the interception
McNabb was probably inaacurate because he was running for his life all night…
No sense complaining about the play calling… it is what it is and will remain until Andy is gone… but the grass is not always greener.
The stupid penalties have to… that’s our third Celebration penalty if I remember correctly…
The Cowgirls didn’t whoop us… but they did win this game… the good news is that we played horribly on offense and only lost by four.
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by Humble Dragons on Nov 9, 2009 1:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought the first challenge was dumb but I agreed with the second
by JasonB on Nov 9, 2009 1:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
The 2nd Challenge
Under these new replay rules it make no sense to challenge a ball spot in a pile… Especially when it leaves us with no way of stopping the clock if we lose… but even worse than that was kicking that last field goal… what was the point of that… why not take two downs to go 10 yards?
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by Humble Dragons on Nov 9, 2009 2:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
I liked the field goal call. For one thing, it was 4th and 10. If it was 4th and 5, he may have gone for it. But we need two scores to win. Why not kick a field goal now, and trust your defense to get a 3 and out.
And chances are, if Akeem Jordan isn’t injured, our offense gets one more shot
by tanman5 on Nov 9, 2009 2:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well Jordan was injured...
I would have run the draw on 3rd and 11 and hopefully we pop it… if not you get 4 or 5 yards and then you go for it on 4th down…. again with no timeouts kicking a field goal there is senseless if you need a touchdown anyway.
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by Humble Dragons on Nov 9, 2009 2:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps
But McNabb was a shoelace from getting a first down.
It feels like every break went Dallas’ way. Seriously, how many times were we just a little bit short of the first down? Desean got the first down and then came back just behind it on that crucial turnover on downs. 2nd and inches instead of 1st and 10. Ware gets to McNabb a second before he can hit a wide-open Maclin for a touchdown.
by tanman5 on Nov 9, 2009 2:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh
Why does Vick ever come into the game? If at any point he threw a strike like 30 yards down the field to give any team game planning any idea that it might happen, then maybe… maybe, and even then still it’s pretty whack. Instead, he comes into the game to hand off to McCoy? It’s so unnecessary. Also, that 4th down might have been a bad spot, but in reality it never should have come to that. Can we please bang it in there with Weaver on 3rd down, instead LeSean goes pussy footing in? Damn. And Asante can cover, sure, but damn he is a little girl out there sometimes. MAN UP.
by Chad Lewis on Nov 9, 2009 1:23 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Vick needed to have an impact in a game like this
If Vick can’t do anything to impact the game in week 9, then cut him and let’s get another tackle on the roster…. I don’t want our poor left guard to have to slide out there agaain…
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by Humble Dragons on Nov 9, 2009 1:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why doesn't Vick ever throw the ball?
RONNIE BROWN HAD A TD PASS FOR CHRIST’S SAKE! Let Vick throw the ball. We can burn a defense. Otherwise, there’s no trick to it; the defense knows what’s coming. It should be called a tamecat offense
by tanman5 on Nov 9, 2009 2:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Losers
Wow, you guys really have no class, do you?
Why on earth would we be whining? We won. lol
Pathetic and sad. “The officials,” blah blah blah.
What a disgrace. No class.
The Raiders exposed you. We imploded you.
by dfan77 on Nov 9, 2009 1:51 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
haha
I don’t think a 4 point win handed to you by the officials would be considered “imploded.” And even if the Cowboys were better in this game, its only early November.
By the time December and January comes around, the Cowboys will choke once again.
by bdawk4ever on Nov 9, 2009 1:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Very Clever
dfan77… your post shows that you are a very classy and well read individual and we are all better for your insightful comments. Thank you for teaching us something new.
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by Humble Dragons on Nov 9, 2009 1:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You are whining right now. As to your question about why you’re whining? I really don’t know.
Are you upset that you were unable to cone up tough talk that made more sense than “we imploded you?” what does that mean anyway?
by JasonB on Nov 9, 2009 2:03 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Also thank you iPhone for making my spelling horrible!
by JasonB on Nov 9, 2009 2:07 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
At least
you didn’t say “we imploded you”
Say what you want about spelling, at least you speak better English than this stupid cowboy
by tanman5 on Nov 9, 2009 2:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The iPhone “imploded” my spelling.
by JasonB on Nov 9, 2009 2:10 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
almost as bad as asante's "tackling"
by TheDtrain on Nov 9, 2009 2:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t know if anything could be as bad as that.
Thought that helmet tackle on Jones was pretty sweet….
by bdawk4ever on Nov 9, 2009 2:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Now did Asante’s implode the art of tackling or did tackling implode him?
I’m still trying to figure out this whole “imploding” thing.
by JasonB on Nov 9, 2009 2:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Okay you made me laugh for the first time tonight and that is saying something.
by bdawk4ever on Nov 9, 2009 2:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cris Collinsworth
“Asante means than you in Swahili. I think the Cowboys are saying Asante right now.”
I hate him so much
by tanman5 on Nov 9, 2009 2:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yea i heard that and sat there having to agree
by notfromphilly on Nov 9, 2009 3:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"IMPLODED"!?!?!
The raiders beat us more convincingly than you did
"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs
by jalarsen1 on Nov 9, 2009 7:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t you have a horse, cow or pig who’s feeling lonely and needs your “Special Texas Attention?”
Or am I out of line? I mean, if your sister does it for you, then you must be the OTHER 50% of your state.
by UnclaimedFright on Nov 11, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Everything sucks
The refs gave the game away. Of course, it’s better for the NFL to have “America’s team” win.
We were clearly the better team and we lost. I sacrificed my entire weekend so I would be free to watch this game and we lost. I go to Michigan, and our football team is atrocious. All I wanted to salvage this God-awful weekend was for my favorite football team, which was looking good, to beat the team I hate more than anything else.
And we lost. Life sucks.
by tanman5 on Nov 9, 2009 1:56 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
At least you can look forward to the eagles beating the cowboys late in the year as always. As for Michigan beating someone idk…..
by JasonB on Nov 9, 2009 2:05 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Only if
We manage to get through the gauntlet that is the rest of our schedule.
by tanman5 on Nov 9, 2009 2:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
True, but if the last 3 years are any indication this team plays better as the schedule gets harder and it gets deeper in the season. Hopefully thus year is no different.
by JasonB on Nov 9, 2009 2:08 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I do have to keep reminding myself its early November, and the Eagles always get better. But still I yearn for ’04 when they rolled over everybody.
by bdawk4ever on Nov 9, 2009 2:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+ 1
Michigan is my favorite college as well… Jumped on during the fab five bandwagon and never got off… I feel your pain my friend…
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by Humble Dragons on Nov 9, 2009 1:58 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
LOL Jason
Asante Samuel attempting a “tackle”
Just noticed that caption…
by TheDtrain on Nov 9, 2009 1:59 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
What happened to Sheldon?
Why did he bite so hard? It’s third down, give them a short gain if anything. Plus, you have help from Mikell underneath. All week, every article I read said the Cowboys would try to punish our corners for their aggressiveness. Did Sheldon Brown not get that memo?
There was only one thing the Cowboys did that wasn’t a result of our mistakes. The pick by Mike Jenkins was an athletic play (I don’t fault McNabb…well not completely).
Other than that, we gave the game away. Maclin tipped the ball right to a Cowboy. Touchdown. Sheldon decided to turn into Ellis Hobbs. Touchdown. ballgame.
by tanman5 on Nov 9, 2009 2:02 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
It was an athletic play
But that ball was thrown short… last week it was perfect into the endzone to Maclin… today a little off… we were just off today… Defenders crashing into each other, dropped passes… I feel sick.
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by Humble Dragons on Nov 9, 2009 2:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I didn’t understand why he bit so hard- Mikell was underneath, and even Jones was sort of over top, so no reason to bit.
But maybe even he knew it was Dallas, and wanted to make a play? Especially given his contract dispute?
by bdawk4ever on Nov 9, 2009 2:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No
It was a bad pass to Maclin- right to Jenkins. I could see if he made a play, but the ball wasn’t thrown very well.
by bdawk4ever on Nov 9, 2009 2:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jenkins
Jumped high and had good coverage. It was similar to that DRC pick against the Giants
by tanman5 on Nov 9, 2009 2:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
OK
I will have to review the film, but from what I remember Maclin had good inside move and McNabb threw it high and behind.
by bdawk4ever on Nov 9, 2009 2:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cowboys Fan Here
Damn hard fought game guys… It could have gone either way. Look forward to the next one.
And hey… As much as I hate the eagles I know this game probably won’t mean all that much in the long run. It will be the december games that will make and break both teams.
MacGruber!
by Mojoness on Nov 9, 2009 2:13 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
One beef with Reid
I don’t have much to complain about Andy Reid tonight.
One thing, however, that baffled me is that he gave Leonard Weaver on 1st and 2nd down and he gave McCoy the ball on 3rd and short situations (besides the one conversion we had all night). Uh, why not give it to your big-play threat on first and 10, then give it to the grinder to finish?
by tanman5 on Nov 9, 2009 2:23 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Upcoming
So looking ahead, here is the schedule:
SD
Chi
Was
Atl
NYG
SF
Den
Dal
How does this play out? 10-6? 11-5? 8-8?
I think they beat SD, Chi, Was, NYG, and Dal, then lose to Atl, and Den. Why? Why the f&*((& not with this team.
by bdawk4ever on Nov 9, 2009 2:38 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
After tonight and that embarassment against Oakland
They owe the fans an 8-0 finish.
Realistically, I think they will lose to Atlanta and SD. 11-5. But you never know. Just when you think they will look like a contender, they decide to prove you wrong and lay an egg. They could seriously end up anywhere from 5-11 to 13-3. That’s how boom or bust this team is.
by tanman5 on Nov 9, 2009 3:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No way you guys lose to ATL
Their secondary could give Brown lessons in biting on fakes. You should run them off the field.
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by bking on Nov 9, 2009 11:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We lost to Oakland
Anything is possible
by tanman5 on Nov 9, 2009 3:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL -true, but you guys are generally only good for one dud game a year...
Surely that’s all that OAK one was.
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by bking on Nov 9, 2009 4:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good Game
This is the first time i’ve come across this thread, and i have to say, i’m glad to see Eagles fans actually talking coherently(for the most part) about the game. I’m a Cowboys fan, and most threads are nothing but morons (on both sides) making ignorant statements.
This was a good game all around. It reminded me of the old days, with great defense, both teams fighting for every inch, and the last team to score wins.Yeah, there were some bad calls for both sides, but the Eagles had every opportunity to win that game, and just couldn’t convert.
And yeah, it is only November, so we shouldn’t be getting too excited, but this game proved that the Cowboys are for real and among the best teams in the NFC along side the Eagles. Neither team is elite, just good all around. You guys have dominated us for so long that we’ll take any victory we can get. I can’t wait till the rematch, as i’m sure playoff spots will be up for grabs.
by jon n. on Nov 9, 2009 2:56 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
As a Dallas Fan...
Ugly game played by both teams. Dallas got killed over and over again by the Eagles blitz defense, they made the Dallas offensive line look silly many times. For the most part, they were able to keep the backs in check, and make Romo throw a lot of check down passes. Defensively for Dallas, the Eagles attacked with a lot of screens and a lot of runs on the outside. McCoy impressed me, and scares me in the future. Dude is a serious player, and being that my buddy is a big Pitt fan, I saw a lot of games with him last year.
As for the Eagles, Dallas was able to put a lot of pressure on McNabb, and force him to get rid of the ball fast. Losing Peters for that time hurt you, as he did a really good job keeping Ware in check. Ratliff had a great game though. The linebackers, specifically Brooking, had a real rough game. The middle of the defense was open again. Newman played tough at times, but Jenkins played rather good and his pick on McNabb was a perfect baited pass on his part.
On offense, Romo played solid for the most part, and most importantly, didn’t turn the ball over. The one pick, either Romo threw the ball in the wrong spot or Witten ran the wrong route. If you watch the timing, it looks like Witten cut in after Romo threw it, and the pick was a perfect play by the defender. Like I said, Romo was pressured all game, and the Eagles did a good job shutting down the Dallas offense.
As for the refs, there were many plays on both sides that made me disgusted as a fan. The 4th and 1 spot was very generous for Dallas, and personally, I think Donovan got the spot. I felt bad for Asante when he got the taunting call, as it looked like him and Barber are probably friends, or at least, get a long, as both were laughing after what was ever said. Stuff like that makes me ashamed as a fan to see. The taunting thing is stupid, and is the fault of Goddell being a, well, douchebag, and taking the fun out of the league. Also, lame jokes about “INSERT COWBOY HERE blowing the refs” is just that, lame.
Anyway, I’ll end it now with a shout out to those Eagle fans saying I wouldn’t come back on Sunday night/Monday, post this, and say I’ll see you guys week 17, which will probably be another game between the division leader and the wildcard team, with big playoff implications. Especially since the Giants are falling, and fast. Bye
by Zach22 on Nov 9, 2009 2:57 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Either way
It’s hard to see us going deep in the playoffs. You have to be CONSISTENT to do that and McNabb just doesn’t have it.
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Nov 9, 2009 6:17 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
well...not really
Gotta give credit to Jason Peters who absolutely owned DeMarcus Ware tonight. Ware made a few plays when Peters was off the field, but when he came back Ware disappeared.
Peters did a better job than I thought he would, but Ware was chipped or doubled with a RB or TE a good part of the night….Ware moves to the other side often, this is nothing new. I think this had more to do with them doubling him than Peters.. regardless, the OL couldn’t stop the others which led to 4 sacks and alot of pressure on Mcnabb…Good game on both sides. See you in December, but this time it will be in our house..Good luck the rest of the way…
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
by Boyzfan94 on Nov 9, 2009 10:03 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
No, really
Facts are facts. Ware never sniffed the QB when Peters when in the game. He was chipped a few times, but not nearly as often as you seem to remember. Even if he was, he faces that stuff every week and still makes plays.
And they didn’t move Ware to other side until late in the game when it became apparent he couldn’t overcome Peters.
by JasonB on Nov 9, 2009 11:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Peters was great
I was even more impressed that he was gimped up and STILL played that well.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Nov 9, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is anyone really paying attention?
You can blame the officiating if you want. It was obviously a blown call, and I hope that someone is evaluating this stuff and taking the proper corrective measures; but I think that the Eagles and their coaching staff have to own up. No one ever said playing pro ball was easy, and on any given Sunday, (especially when you are not prepared – like Oakland), any team can win.
What kills me is the absolutely empty headed penalties. Ever notice how the Eagles, through their superior intellect I guess, manage to make the most blatant and obviously stupid penalties/mistakes at the most critical times? Is there some kind of locker room bet going on? Someone please give “Skipper” McNabb a rule book explaining that catching the ball on the first bounce, “short hopping” it, does NOT count as a reception. I’m not sure he knows that. And Mr. Reid, please stop grunting, clearing your throat and telling us you dindn’t get it done – millions of people already saw that.
Really, I know I’m venting, but truthfully, I think that50 years is long enough. I believe I’m going to switch my loyalty to the Steelers or something. At least I see some degree of intelligent design there.
The amount of money the “divas” demand gives every fan out there the right to DEMAND better from them. Most flagrant example of OVERPAID UNDERACHIEVERS in football, except maybe the Redskins, but not by much.
Maybe if some of the prima donnas read some of these blogs, including the owner, they might wake up and show a little character. What a wild idea that is, right?
by pink.floyd on Nov 9, 2009 11:40 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
That's what you call a tough NFC East game
Unfortunately, I wanted the win. But…meh. It’s alright, I guess. We’re still in excellent position.
Next stop: San Diego.
by LegendKnight22 on Nov 9, 2009 8:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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