eagles possession offense and ryan moats (?!)
by dave in san mateo on Nov 3, 2009 1:50 PM EST
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I've never been one to be overly concerned about the mix of pass plays and running plays in the Eagles' offense, but the current reliance on the big play worries me a lot. Did anyone notice that the Eagles have had fewer first downs and less time of possession than their opponent in each of their last four games? These 4 games included games against 3 of the worst teams in the league! It seems like big plays are the only thing keeping this team going (along with a good plus/minus on interceptions, obviously). I know that there is more risk than reward in running Westbrook too much at this point in the season, but I'm very concerned about the Eagles's possession offense especially in terms of the opportunity it gives opposing teams. You notice that the only decent offense that the birds have played against this season (the Saints) laid a real whupping on them. What's to be done?
On a somewhat related subject, what do people make of Moats's 126 yard, 3 touchdown performance at Buffalo last weekend? I saw that he did it on 23 carries, none longer than 17 yards. Just from reading the stat sheet, it seems like a real workman-like performance. Who would have thunk it?
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Moats ran against a team ranked 32nd in run defense
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by midnitegreen on Nov 3, 2009 2:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
if we get the big play, we get it
that doesnt mean that our offense can’t sustain drives
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by immynimmy on Nov 3, 2009 3:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
that's my point, though
It doesn’t really matter to me whether the Eagles pass a lot or run a lot, but the offense needs to be able to drive the ball down the field. Contrary to your comment, having fewer first downs and less time of possession than the Bucs and the Raiders and the Redskins and the Giants in consecutive weeks does indeed mean that the offense can’t sustain drives. Furthermore, ot being able to drive the ball down the field means (1) that the good offenses in the league will have too many opportunities to score and (2) that it is too difficult to successfully run a two minute offense. That’s what I’m afraid of at least.
by dave in san mateo on Nov 3, 2009 5:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not
“not being able to drive the ball down the field.”
by dave in san mateo on Nov 3, 2009 5:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!
How many Eagles fan Though of Moats till he had that game. Name the last time he had 100+ game. So get uf his u know what, cuz he had one good game. Who cares how we win man, ill take big plays everytime those pig plays gets us points.
by EAGLES4LIFE on Nov 3, 2009 4:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
December 11 2005
Against the New York Gaints
11 carries
114 yards
1 TD
by Dom_G on Nov 3, 2009 4:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea 4 years ago, so people sould not get all over him now and say he was good.When he is not really. it helped that he played the worst D in the NFL.
by EAGLES4LIFE on Nov 3, 2009 9:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Moats was a scat back who couldn’t pass protect.
I never thought he would be a bad RB, just not what we were looking for.
I hope he tears it up in Houston while Slaton is out.
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by EagleGreeninMD on Nov 3, 2009 4:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
H e was an awesome runner
But he was stupid as hell (couldn’t learn the offense) and couldn’t block.
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Nov 3, 2009 5:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
moats.....
yeah i always liked moats and made a comment a few months back as 2 why the eagles ever got rid of him. And that was the response , that he had a hard time learnin the playbook. Hes definitely a capable back-up and a potential starter on a shitty team but im obviously happy with the running back situation we have now, however as sad is itmis i think were gonna need to add another piece to the puzzle to go with Shady cause westy is on his way out.
by goldenbird09 on Nov 3, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Definiately
Fortunately, good RBs are a dime a dozen
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Nov 3, 2009 8:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
good job, moats
i always liked him.
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by snowhill82 on Nov 3, 2009 7:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
moats has always been built on speed, not power, good job moats
P.S.- moats ur good running led to steve slanton giving me -1 points in fantasy football
eff you we winning anyway
by eagleswin on Nov 3, 2009 8:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
+248.7
me too! i wasn’t at all happy about that shit….
"it's like i tell my ex-wife, i never drive faster than i can see, and besides it's all in the reflexes." -Jack Burton, Big trouble in little China
by snowhill82 on Nov 4, 2009 1:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We’ve always had to live and die by the big play this year is no different.
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
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by Whodie126 on Nov 4, 2009 12:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
but it is different
My point is that this year seems considerably different.
In recent years, the Eagles have consistently had a very good scoring offense. They ranked 2nd in the NFL in points per game in 2006, 6th in 2007, and 9th in 2008. This year is no different. To date, they are ranked 3rd.
Until now, however, they have also been a good first down offense. They ranked tied for 9th in the NFL in first downs in 2006, tied for 5th in 2007, and 8th in 2008. This year, they rank tied for 23rd. And they’ve played some horrible teams.
I couldn’t find time of possession statistics, but I bet that that would also show a significant decrease this year as well.
Maybe the number of games played this season is too small to draw conclusions. Maybe they will get more first downs in the second half of the season. First downs is certainly an imperfect statistic.
Still, I’m noticing a big change this year, and reason to be concerned about the effect of this change on being able to slow down the better offenses in the league and on being able to close out or win games in the fourth quarter.
by dave in san mateo on Nov 4, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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