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Eagles beat Redskins with second straight 4th quarter comeback

Much like last week it wasn't the prettiest game from start to end, but it was another win that showed a ton of character for the Eagles. For the second straight week, Donovan McNabb led a 4th quarter comeback and the Eagles defense tightened up as the team continues to try to shed the notion that it can't win close games.

While it's certainly fair to say that Eagles still aren't "firing on all cylinders" it is still a fact in this league that you are what your record says you are. Right now the Eagles are 7-4, just a game back in the NFC East, and in control of at least a wildcard spot in the playoffs. Under Andy Reid, this team has historically started to play its best football in December. If that holds true again this year, the Eagles are well position heading into the final month of 2009.

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Fantastic Fourth from McNabb

A week after he welcomed his 4th child into the world and led a 4th quarter comeback against the Bears, Donovan McNabb once again saved his best for the 4th quarter. It didn't start off well as McNabb's arm was hit and he threw his only pick of the day, but it was only up from there. Down 24-16 McNabb led drives of 90 and 66 yards totaling about 8 minutes to seal a 27-24 win.

Lesean McCoy continues to mature

In past years, the loss of Brian Westbrook would have sealed this team's fate. The Eagles recognized this and sought to correct that weakness by taking LeSean McCoy in the second round of the 2009 draft, so far Shady McCoy has made them look pretty smart. He ran the ball 17 times for 76 yards while his backfield mate Leonard Weaver added 6 carries for 44 yards to combine for a very efficient and effective running game. McCoy also caught 4 passes for 25 yards to bring his total to just over a 100 yards from scrimmage on the day.

He's certainly not Brian Westbrook yet, but he's been impressive nonetheless.

What happened to Brent Celek?

You could certainly make a case that Brent Celek has been the Eagles' most reliable and consistent producer all year, but today the guy absolutely laid an egg. Not only did he drop three passes later in the game which hit him in the hands, but he also committed a needless pass interference play in the first quarter which caused a TD pass to Desean Jackson to be called back. I'm sure he can bounce back, but today was an absolutely brutal day from the young TE.

Avant's breakout season continues

Jason Avant just had a fantastic day again. He makes tough catches, he breaks tackles, he runs great routes. The guy has really blossomed this year into more than just a third down, over the middle specialist. He's becoming a guy the defense has to worry about on every play.

While we're praising WRs, how about another strong game from the rookie Maclin? His great catch on the TD drive ended up being one of the most pivotal moments of the game. He ended the day with 5 grabs for 63 yards.

Asante Samuel, Redskins killer

Some guys just have the number of certain teams. That certainly seems to be the case with Asante Samuel, who now has 6 INTs in his last 8 games against the Redskins. There's no doubt his tackling leaves much to be desired, but his 2 picks today were huge in stopping the bleeding by an Eagles defense that seemed to be on the ropes in the second and third quarters. That's what playmakers are for.

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i heard DeSean has a concussion

RIP Jim Johnson. You will truly be missed.

by Igglesfan13 on Nov 29, 2009 4:48 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Reid said it was not as bad as Westbrook’s concussions. He should be back next week.

The defense is worrying me more than the offense. Against better offensive teams they will be torched if they continue playing this way.

Second straight 4th quarter comeback is pretty huge. Looks like Reid and Mcnabb are starting to get over that hump. Good balanced play calling again by Marty/Reid. Reid said they changed their formation a little on running plays thats making it more successful.

Let’s keep it up. Matt Ryan less Falcons should be fairly easy next week.

Andy Reid is 43-5 when running the ball at least 30 times in a game( Ray Diddy on Eagles Post Game Live after Bears Victory)

by Route36 on Nov 29, 2009 4:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

"Matt Ryan-less?"

i heard he was hurt, how was he injured?

by alcatraz0109 on Nov 29, 2009 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

He got injured on a sack on his toe...

They taped it up and tried to put him back but he couldn’t stay up. It looks pretty bad. Any kind of foot injury usually costs you at least 1 game. Even if he plays, he is not going to be 100 percent. I like our chances but you never know.

Andy Reid is 43-5 when running the ball at least 30 times in a game( Ray Diddy on Eagles Post Game Live after Bears Victory)

by Route36 on Nov 29, 2009 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Easy game?

Falcons are 12-1 at home over the last two years including 5-0 this year. Winning in Atlanta is going to be tough even if they don’t have Ryan and Turner next week.

by MG77 on Nov 29, 2009 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

It would certainly be tougher with those two guys

but it doesn’t look like anything’s going to come easily for the Eagles the rest of the way.

That’s why the last two weeks are encouraging. I like to see them win when they don’t play their best

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Nov 29, 2009 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree winning in Atlanta will be tough but not if they don’t have Ryan and Turner. They are nothing without them. They barely beat the Bucs in the last minute.

Andy Reid is 43-5 when running the ball at least 30 times in a game( Ray Diddy on Eagles Post Game Live after Bears Victory)

by Route36 on Nov 29, 2009 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Balanced Offense...

That’s just silly move by the Eagles to call the ball half run/half pass…That’s moronic!..They run a WEST coast offense so no running needed

It’s McNabb’s fault we’re…..winning and coming back in the 4th quarter…wait, what??

(sarcasm sarcasm sarcasm)

by 5 plus 10 equals 6 on Nov 30, 2009 8:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Haha...

Nice one!

Andy Reid is 43-5 when running the ball at least 30 times in a game( Ray Diddy on Eagles Post Game Live after Bears Victory)

by Route36 on Dec 1, 2009 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Hell yea

Good route runner and AMAZING hands! Imagine if he had elite class A speed? Unstoppable

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!

by Joe_D on Nov 29, 2009 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

he's more of a hines ward type guy.

"it's like i tell my ex-wife, i never drive faster than i can see, and besides it's all in the reflexes." -Jack Burton, Big trouble in little China

by snowhill82 on Nov 29, 2009 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

And

Weaver. He is just an awesome fullback.

by Cowboy KILLER on Nov 29, 2009 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Need to re-sign both and lock up djack past his rookie contract for that matter…

by 5 plus 10 equals 6 on Nov 30, 2009 8:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I really hope we start playing our December football

It’s another “we control our own destiny” at this point. The schedule is favorable we just have to start playing better

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!

by Joe_D on Nov 29, 2009 4:49 PM EST reply actions  

when i see the chiefs beat the steelers i dont feel like any win is a given in the nfl. also the redskins defense is really good despite there bad record. therefore, i think this was a solid win

by eaglesinmd on Nov 29, 2009 4:49 PM EST reply actions  

definitely not solid

We made way too many mistakes to call this one a solid win

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!

by Joe_D on Nov 29, 2009 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed

but hey, a win is a win is a win.

we made mistakes and stumbled early, but in the end, a W is all that matters

by alcatraz0109 on Nov 29, 2009 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Tough tough win against an NFC East Opponent

Still too many mistakes and too many injuries. If the Eagles hold to form and get better in December, this team can go far. Not sure if they can beat Indy, NE, NO, or Min at this point, but luckily they don’t play them yet.

If they can just play who they have and win, it’ll fall together.

Up coming game: Atl, NY, SF, Dev, and the Boys at the end.

I see W, W, W, L, W… and Division champs.

Reid- Best Coach in Eagles History
McNabb- Best QB in Eagles History

This is the year

by bdawk4ever on Nov 29, 2009 4:53 PM EST reply actions  

Denver? Really?

A home loss versus Denver? That’s probably the easiest game left on their schedule. Before they beat the Giants on Thanksgiving, the Broncos hadn’t won since October 19th. During that stretch, they lost four straight by an average score of 29 to 6. Their offense has been terrible, averaging 14 first downs and turning the ball over a times in those four losses (their defense was hardly any better, giving up an average of 19 first downs and creating a total of 2 turnovers). The Broncos are pretty bad, my friend. They’re at serious risk of missing the playoffs after starting 6-0.

by dave in san mateo on Nov 29, 2009 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Welll...

I Just don’t see them winning the next 5 games. Its possible, but with this team I can see them losing a game they should win.

Though 12-4 does sound nice (which was my preseason prediction).

Reid- Best Coach in Eagles History
McNabb- Best QB in Eagles History

This is the year

by bdawk4ever on Nov 29, 2009 6:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Watch It

“The Broncos are pretty bad my friend.” Well, Dave, after the Jags and Steelers both lost, we’re firmly in the wild card and I don’t know if you have NFL Network but the 6-0 Broncos returned in our beatdown of the Giants. Since I also like the Eagles, I’ll chalk up your comments to ignorance and not being a chronic retard. You show that while the Eagles are classy, some of their fans are morons. Thanks for Dawk and Buckhalter!

Brad James

by the Bradfather on Nov 30, 2009 8:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Well Denver is the team im least worried about

A win over the Giants may have seemed impressive last year.

by Team Serbia on Nov 30, 2009 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

it's really nice to see us winning games in the division

seems like it’s been a couple years since we had this good of a record in the east, at this point in the year

by keithk on Nov 29, 2009 4:56 PM EST reply actions  

i like to hear my hometown potomac maryland getting a shout out during the game!

by eaglesinmd on Nov 29, 2009 4:56 PM EST reply actions  

Celek

had an unusual performance today…hopefully he can rebound next week

Allright kids, the word of the day is "Truculence"

by kashman07 on Nov 29, 2009 5:02 PM EST reply actions  

Celek scared me today

But I still have faith in him. Just please don’t watch anymore Braylon highlight films Celek. Stick to watching Jason Witten. DeSean had a concussion but judging by the reaction it didn’t look too serious. I mean he was squirming but that was a good sign meaning he had no neural damage. It looked like more mild since he seemed to pick up on everything around him. Jeremy did a good job stepping in for him and made that crucial 3rd down catch. I still love Asante and still love McNabb no matter what anyone says. But by the time of the season end….Avant, Celek, and Weaver all need to be extended. My jury is still out on Jones since he has been good but not great. I still like him and think he can be good, but we are coming to the stretch and we need him to step up. That game saving INT at the end of the Bears game can’t be his signature play of the season.

by macjack09 on Nov 29, 2009 5:09 PM EST reply actions  

As far as I'm concerned...

I’m worried that Celek will not be the player we think he’ll be. I did see him get his hand checked when they briefly showed him at one point, so they’re might be an injury with him. DeSean basically got his bell rung (mild concussion) and probably kept him out of the game for preventative measures. I can tell you this much, Jones is better than Nacho Harris. On Moss’s TD, all Nacho did was stand there and did not try to disrupt the play.

by eaglemaniac814 on Nov 29, 2009 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

It was a hiccup. Celek is everything we expect. Bad games happen and thankfully those dropped passes didn’t hurt us in the end.

"They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds." - Wilt Chamberlain

by soman319 on Nov 29, 2009 7:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Celek's hand
PHILADELPHIA (AP) — Eagles tight end Brent Celek sprained his thumb in Philadelphia’s 27-24 win over Washington on Sunday.
 The Eagles said X-rays were negative. Celek told a teammate he has torn ligaments in one of his hands after dropping three passes.
 Wide receiver Jeremy Maclin stopped a passing Celek at his locker and asked, "you good?" Celek told him, "No, I tore a few ligaments in my hand." Celek extended his left hand toward Maclin to take a look.

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Nov 29, 2009 7:29 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s interesting. Might explain what happened today.

by JasonB on Nov 29, 2009 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I posted this right before I knew about the injury...

that and some of his blocking was despicable. We need to use Avant though. He’s the guy we need that can stretch the field over the middle and make those catches in traffic.

by eaglemaniac814 on Nov 29, 2009 9:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I am very impressed by the Eagles today finding a way to win.
I wonder how the Redskins coaching staff must feel after trying to play conservative when they had the ball deep by our end zone, and only ended up with a field goal instead of 7 points.

by bigislandboi808 on Nov 29, 2009 5:21 PM EST reply actions  

woot

December is here! lets hit the ground running baby!!

by froshizzle24 on Nov 29, 2009 6:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Impressed by Dmac and Mccoy

Less than impressed by the defense…if Reid continues to play relatively balanced football, we will make the playoffs. If he decides to revert to his idiotic pass-happy crapfest, we’ll lose 4 of the remaining 5.

"Right now Winston Justice is the guy...until that person gets back out there"

by EvilBanner on Nov 29, 2009 6:35 PM EST reply actions  

McCoy on the 2-point conversion

Play of the game? Tremendous balance … at a very clutch point in the game. Loved it.

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Nov 29, 2009 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

so true.

And yes, our defense has me concerned…Far too many 3rd down and long conversions for the skin’s yesterday.

by 5 plus 10 equals 6 on Nov 30, 2009 8:45 AM EST up reply actions  

celek looked lost out there, and he is one of the last players on this team that i would expect that from

by eaglesinmd on Nov 29, 2009 6:46 PM EST reply actions  

Win is a win, of course of course

This is exactly the kind of game where the Eagles have generally folded the past two years. Reid gets pass crazy and McNabb gets happy feet. For as much crap as Reid gets for his play-calling today, his calls in the 4th quarter were solid. McNabb also made the throws he had to today.

by MG77 on Nov 29, 2009 7:42 PM EST reply actions  

I thought the calls all day were fine. I’ll never understand why we always try that roll out near the end zone that never seems to work… but otherwise it was fine.

by JasonB on Nov 29, 2009 8:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Here's the game-winning drive, MG

I’m assuming this is what you’re referring to as “solid”

McCoy 12 yard run off left tackle
Weaver 5 yard run off left tackle
McNabb 35-yard completion to Maclin
McCoy 2 run off left tackle
McCoy 3 yard run up the middle
McNabb 6 yard pass short left to Maclin
McCoy (-1) run around left end
McCoy 5 yard run off right tackle
McNabb sacked (loss of 1) by London Fletcher
Akers 32 yard field goal

Without making any value judgements (I’ll leave that to you guys), that looks like 6 runs and 3 passes, including four behind our big $63 million left tackle.

I thought Moose and Kenny Albert had a good point about the use of Vick — sometimes you need a change of pace, but when you’re clicking, maybe you don’t need it. And as for the goal line, don’t they say everyone knows it’s play action if you stuff the Eagles’ run on first down.

It’d be nitpicking to complain about today’s playcalling, but I’d actually like to see Vick used down around the goal line. … Thank God Buckley got in on 3rd down, I was starting to see flashbacks of (pick a goal line stand)

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Nov 29, 2009 9:33 PM EST up reply actions  

i think that our offense is about to hit it’s stride. The D needs some help…maybe they can get sheldon and asante healthy when hanson comes back, maybe get them a little more rest. Getting Akeem Jordan back could also be more help than some might realize

by bula412 on Nov 29, 2009 7:46 PM EST reply actions  

Few thoughts

- O-line generally played well today. Peters did a decent enough job on a guy who is having a good year at DE (Andre Carter). It really helped though that Haynesworth missed the game though. I have a feeling that he would have helped the Skins to generate a bit more pressure up the middle and help close some of those holes that McCoy had to run through.

- Where’s the pressure? Besides Cole who has either double-teamed or chipped on almost every passing play, this defense should be able to generate more pressure against a mediocre offense line. Also didn’t do a good job of containing Campbell in the pocket either as a couple of broke plays turned into big gains. Worst performance by a unit today was by the D-Line. LBs weren’t far behind though.

- Rookies on offense are contributing bigtime. The rookies on defense are really hurting this team. Everybody is talking about what McCoy and Maclin are doing but the rookies on this team are really hurting them. Harris is clueless. Makes mistake after mistake out there. Out of position constantly, can’t cover, and takes his share of stupid penalties. Jones isn’t a playmaker but he generally makes the plays he is supposed to. Fokou also has been brutal too. This team can’t get Jordan back fast enough to put Fokou back on the bench/special teams coverage only.

- Special teams continues to be a weak spot overall. Akers is very quietly having another strong season and Jackson is electric on punt returns. Continue to make too many mistakes with dumb penalties and inconsistent coverage. Rocca continues to be one of the most erratic punters in the NFL. I have a bad feeling that special teams are going to play a big role in a loss yet this season.

- Liked Reid’s aggressive play-calling including the onside kick. Everybody was questioning why Reid decided to go with the onside-kick to start the game. I actually liked the call even if the result was less than ideal. Also, liked coming out in a the no-huddle again in the 1st quarter and the play-calling in the 4th quarter with a nice mixture of run/pass.

- Everyone says that Avant is the most underrated player on this team. Nah. The most underrated guy is Weaver. Really impressed by what I see out of him. Just a sound overall player who actually is a legit option to run the ball. Without Westbrook in the lineup, Reid need to make sure that Weaver is carrying the ball 5-6 times a game instead of just 2-3 times.

by MG77 on Nov 29, 2009 8:02 PM EST reply actions  

Macho Harris

I think he’s a good example of why the defense struggles at times. This is a rookie 5th round pick who played corner in college, who has been forced to start at safety thanks to injuries and other things. Moises Fokou was a 6th round pick and he’s been pressed into duty as a starter.

That’s not a normal position for guys like that to be in. You pick those guys and let them develop on special teams and as backups. When you’re forced to start those guys because injuries have killed your depth, you can expect that they’ll make mistakes.

by JasonB on Nov 29, 2009 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed to a point

Yeah these guys weren’t high draft round picks but they both have made their share of mental mistakes and stupid penalties. Not expecting them to be playmakers but also not expecting them to commit things like personal fouls (Harris has 2 already, Fokou has 1).

by MG77 on Nov 30, 2009 1:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m not trying to excuse their mistakes, but I think it’s entirely reasonable to expect rookies to make mental mistakes. It’s reasonable to expect high picks to make them and probably doubly so for these later round guys.

by JasonB on Nov 30, 2009 2:07 AM EST up reply actions  

#5 is stayin' alive

It was also nice to see McNabb not getting that frustrated with all of the drops today. I counted 6. If you are being generous, it was 7-8. That 21-35 looks more impressive considering the numbers of drops.

by MG77 on Nov 29, 2009 8:08 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, we give him a hard time about accuracy

but he did hit some guys in the hands today.

Sometimes the drops are still on him (or he should share the blame) since he’s always winging it into tight spots, especially with Avant and Celek … on one hand he seems very confident throwing to those guys no matter where they are on the field, and it’s the NFL, you gotta throw into some tight spots. On the other, some of those throws are really tough to ask a receiver to come down with.

Overall, that wasn’t my biggest beef today … at all.

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Nov 29, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Funny...

The Mcnabb haters argue that Mcnabb doesn’t throw a lot of INTs because he doesn’t throw into tight spots.

Andy Reid is 43-5 when running the ball at least 30 times in a game( Ray Diddy on Eagles Post Game Live after Bears Victory)

by Route36 on Nov 29, 2009 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

He definitely

throws low and away sometimes, and I think that’s more on purpose (to avoid picks) than it appears to the casual observer.

But anyone who says he doesn’t throw into tight spots isn’t watching the games. Almost every pass that goes to Avant and many to Celek are over the middle with a guy draped on them.

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Nov 29, 2009 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

a couple of those drops were bad

bugt you’re right. some of those passes are 200mph and behind/high people and not easy catches

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!

by Joe_D on Nov 29, 2009 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

McNabb was fine today. Pretty much every throw I saw was catchable. No QB on earth throws every ball perfectly on target. If something hits you in the hands you should catch it not matter how hard it’s thrown if you’re an NFL player.

McNabb is off target sometimes and doesn’t give guys the chance to make catches… but that wasn’t the case today.

by JasonB on Nov 29, 2009 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

No QB on earth throws every ball perfectly on target.

You must have missed this …

Jim Johnson 1941-2009

"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009

by Whodie126 on Nov 30, 2009 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Brees threw one in the dirt last night!

OMG! The world is ending!

Andy Reid is 43-5 when running the ball at least 30 times in a game( Ray Diddy on Eagles Post Game Live after Bears Victory)

by Route36 on Dec 1, 2009 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Campbell can play

Still don’t understand why most of the ’Skins fans are such haters of Campbell. He has improved since he first game in the league in terms of his ability to not panic at the first sign of pressure and read the field. Made a couple of nice plays today on plays that broke down scurrying outside of the pocket.

by MG77 on Nov 29, 2009 8:14 PM EST reply actions  

If you watch them a lot

which unfortunately I do, his biggest problem is being indecisive. You might have noticed all the pump fakes today, or the times he needed to tuck it and run in the 4th quarter. He does that every week.

Physically he’s got all the tools, and I wonder what he’d be like with a great O-line and the confidence that comes with playing behind one … but that’s the crux of why Redskins fans are lukewarm on him. (and some really do like him, and many think he’s not the problem)

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Nov 29, 2009 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

And I don’t know if this is due to playcalling or him, but that team seems completely incapable of challenging down-field.

by JasonB on Nov 29, 2009 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

The reason why Campbell is indecisive...

is he’s had practically 7 oc’s in 8 years. Including College. Trade him to a team and actually have him develop a rapport with a coaching staff.

by eaglemaniac814 on Nov 29, 2009 9:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Down here, they're even getting tired of that excuse

I think that can definitely be jarring, and the lack of continuity is one of the Redskins’ biggest problems (outside of their draft philosophy), but by the same token, it’s been 27 games in the West Coast offense now, and they don’t look any better than when Zorn first took over.

Any team with Santana Moss on it should be able to go deep more often than they do, and part of their problem there is the slow development of the other receivers so teams can’t double Moss.

And the other problem is still that O-line.

I might be one of the only people who thinks the Redskins don’t need to blow up their roster. They could trim the fat, get about 10 draft picks in camp to create some depth so they can withstand injuries, and they’d be pretty good. Their starters match up with most teams, but they never have any depth because they don’t draft. There are no Brent Celeks and Trent Coles and Jason Avants and Stewart Bradleys popping up on that team because they don’t use enough of their picks.

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Nov 29, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I still give him the benefit of the doubt...

because I’m a musician (high school jazz band…if that counts) and what Campbell’s going through is about the musical equivalent to sight reading 8 Maynard Ferguson songs on trumpet and having to play them in 10 days. Here’s why: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMYtw9A0XR0&feature=related

by eaglemaniac814 on Nov 29, 2009 10:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Fredirick has a point

This is absolutely NO time to celebrate. Had the Gmen or Cowboys played like this the past two weeks we would be saying “these guys fucking blow and are easily beatable,” not “man they’re winning in the clutch!.”

We need to get shit going or if we do make the playoffs it’ll be a really quick exit

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!

by Joe_D on Nov 29, 2009 8:20 PM EST reply actions  

My beef with Freddy

was that he isn’t telling us anything we don’t already know. You and I and the rest of the gang on the in-game threads weren’t exactly coming out of this thing celebrating. I didn’t really read any posts on BGN that said we were playing like a team that’s bound for a long stay in the postseason.

So if you create a post just to be a dick (see: “haha”) and post something we all already know … well, we usually assume you’re a Cowboys fan. :)

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Nov 29, 2009 8:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Take a deep breath, sweet cheeks

We’re winning close football games. That’s not something we’ve been able to do. This team is really, really young – they need to learn how to win close games by – get this – winning close games. They weren’t finishing earlier in the year. Now they are.

Do you propose we go back to the way the game finished against Oakland? Dallas? Or do we say ‘well, gee, it wasn’t pretty but we actually finished the ballgame’. I’ll take the wins, thanks. Not every team can be the ’07 Patriots.

As for Freddy – go ahead, side with the troll. Brilliant. At least this time, you’re not resorting to cheap potshots on McNabb, so there’s improvement in that I guess.

by cwel87 on Nov 30, 2009 1:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree.. and how many days ago was it when everyone was complaining about how McNabb isn’t a clutch QB and we can’t win games in the 4th quarter and people were even pulling stats out of how many games/minutes/passes/ etc. McNabb had and couldn’t pull us through to win the game in the end… and now we got two back to back come back wins and people are still bitching.

I understand we shouldn’t of allowed the game to get that close… but I have a lot more confidence going into a game and knowing that it is possible we can come back from being down by more than a TD and winning the game.

In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt

by Eaglesgrl5 on Nov 30, 2009 8:20 AM EST up reply actions  

MVP

Trent Cole….that guy…man I love him.

He was an animal. A pure beast.

by LegendKnight22 on Nov 29, 2009 8:46 PM EST reply actions  

Listening to the game on radio

From unbiased announcers left an impression that the eagles receivers weren’t getting open in the second half, that the eagles safeties didn’t play well and the use of vick in a tight game and Buckley on the goal line don’t make much sense.

by phillynyc on Nov 29, 2009 9:32 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I didn’t notice the WRs having trouble getting open.

The safeties didn’t really make plays, but the LBs were probably a bigger problem. Safeties not great though.

BUckley got in. So… if it works it works.

by JasonB on Nov 29, 2009 9:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Buckley

Seems like a guy that is going to run as hard as he can wherever they tell him to go. The first couple were runs right up the gut and there just wasn’t much push, plus the Washington LBs are just good.

Then they run him off the left tackle and Peters dominates like always in the run game and they get in.

by JasonB on Nov 29, 2009 9:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Vick and Buckley

I disagree about using vick in a tight game. Sure I wouldn’t want to see him out there a lot, but to me vick more so than mcnabb is the qb who can put defenders on their heels due to his arm (however inaccurate) and his speed (however much it may have eroded).

as for buckley… I’d rather see weaver at the goal line. Period. Yes it takes away a blocker, and yes buckley’s a feisty player, but he’s just not the guy I can see getting 1 yard on a consistent basis. Although it doesn’t help that the offense gets pretty predictable when he is out there; has he ever been in on a non-rushing play?

by alcatraz0109 on Nov 29, 2009 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

That has to be their thinking

that if they’re giving it to Buckley, one of their best backfield blockers (Weaver) is in there.

Based on the results so far this year in close, I think it matters less who the ballcarrier is and more who they run behind. Smash it behind Peters …

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Nov 29, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with that

Using Weaver as your goal line back means you lose your best blocking back. I’d rather put Buckley or McCoy in there and run them behind Weaver.

by JasonB on Nov 29, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Defense must step up

Where have Bunkley and Patterson gone? Starting with the Chargers game, I have been really disappointed by the line’s performance besides Trent Cole. With such a weak linebacking corps, we need these guys to step up.
The more Sean Jones, the better. He is our best safety right now. His coverage leaves something to be desired, but Harris isn’t too much better and Jones is an enforcer.
We need to get better in the red zone, but the offense did well when it mattered. Defense really needs to play better.

by tanman5 on Nov 30, 2009 12:03 AM EST reply actions  

Patterson is overrated

Patterson is largely a big fat guy who takes up space. He almost never generates a pass rush by collapsing the pocket and gets worn out as the season wears on. Nothing special about him.

Bunkley has generally played pretty well this season although he got hurt today and missed a few series. Eagles haven’t had a DT who really generated pressure up the middle since the heyday of Corey Simon. Then again, DT who generate a pass-rush are a rare commodity in the league too.

I do think though that Bunkley and Patterson have played pretty well against the run this season. Haven’t been that many gapping holes except for the Saints game.

by MG77 on Nov 30, 2009 1:56 AM EST up reply actions  

I will always be a Patterson fan

after watching the game against the 49ers in 06. It was like seeing my own child out there running for his life.

Patterson will go down in Eagles lore for having the longest fumble recovery in team history. On the afternoon of September 24, 2006, Patterson picked up a fumble on the Eagles’ own 2-yard line and ran 98 yards for a touchdown against the San Francisco 49ers.

In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt

by Eaglesgrl5 on Nov 30, 2009 8:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Jason Campbell isn’t by any stretch of the imagination a bad QB. Look at what he’s playing with. His offensive line, when healthy, is sub-par. That sub-par offensive line is missing its best players. Their running game is, likewise, non-existent. With Cooley out, he has one legitimate receiving threat. For them to put up 3 TDs on our defense is embarrassing and we should feel extremely lucky we walked away with the win.

I am the people's troll :3™

by yomjoseki on Nov 30, 2009 12:05 AM EST reply actions  

And I realize we are REALLY hurt right now, as well, but I know our backup defensive players can play better than this against mostly backup Redskins offensive players.

I am the people's troll :3™

by yomjoseki on Nov 30, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

is it true bunkley hurt his ankle?

if so, is it really bad?

RIP Jim Johnson. You will truly be missed.

by Igglesfan13 on Nov 30, 2009 12:36 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

he went down with a leg injury that’s all I know

Jim Johnson 1941-2009

"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009

by Whodie126 on Nov 30, 2009 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

The biggest thing I can take away from the past two games is this … we usually lose these types of games, especially close games to the Bears and Redskins. We don’t often come out on top in character building games, I’m impressed.

Jim Johnson 1941-2009

"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009

by Whodie126 on Nov 30, 2009 9:42 AM EST reply actions  

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